‘Criminalise Hate Speech Against Women’ …..but I thought feminism was about equality. Can’t Scotland ‘Criminalise Hate Speech Against Men’ at the same time? And put an end to pseudo feminist and neanderthal women using hashtags like #Killallmen and #Maletears and then there’s the hardline uber-pseudo “feminist” manifesto of S.C.U.M.
It’s only fair and equal to criminalise hate speech towards both, although the ideal is not to ban speech of any kind.
Maybe I should just manspain that to the stupid pseudo-feminists…. but what would be the point, they’re neanderthals, are they not…. oh, well, I suppose I better just ‘man-up’ and ‘take it like a man’.
Nigel
Not to support such a ban, but if it went through, then let the law in all its majesty ban men AND women who stalk, harass, abuse, threaten, doxx, and SWAT, just don’t be too shocked if the results end up seeming wildly disproportionate.
But if one is pushing for equality, then one should push for equality not one-upmanship which is what this does if it were to go ahead.
Nigel
It’s not about equality or one-upmanship so much as it’s about having, eg, rape threats thrown at you constantly on the internet or obscene catcalling on the streets.
And why should women get protection from abuse and not men?
I know the numbers are disproportionate in which gender suffers but we’re not going to get equality by protecting one and not the other. And feminism is about equality.
MoyestWithExcitement
As a matter of interest, Clampers, are you against the idea of affirmative action in the US?
If done correctly affirmative action is a good thing.
Too big a topic to start now :)
MoyestWithExcitement
Sure, but it’s not really affirmative action I wanted to talk about. I wanted to draw parallels to it and this case of women getting legal protection that men don’t. Whites dominate society and literally oppressed black people so we need laws to help redress that balance. It’s the same thing for women.
Dόn Pídgéόní
Equality for women there.
Zuppy International
Hatespeech is Thoughtcrime
Nigel
Well, no. If you merely THINK ‘I’m gonna beat you and rape you’ then it’s nobody’s problem but your own. If you scream it in someone’s face you can hardly say you’re getting arrested for a Thoughtcrime, can you?
MoyestWithExcitement
Yeah, people cling on to the free speech thing a bit too much. Everything you do was a decision in your head. People do bad things because they have bad thoughts. They often learn those bad thoughts from other people. I’m not saying we should criminalise any kind of speech but I’m definitely open to an argument.
meadowlark
You’re always open to argument, Moyest, you scamp.
MoyestWithExcitement
True. Arguing makes me feel like a big man….and I’m only half joking about that.
MORE to folly.
Hot CheezzA more like
Very disappointed with today’s tits election from Broadsheet
Tit selection, or tits election?!
E News or Oireachtas report?
We report, you decide
did the examiner have to put the student rape headline just under a photo of tons of kids?! *shudder*
So I’m challenged to come up with examples of Labour broken promises?
“puts barrel, fish and shotgun aside”
So that Hobbit in the Park, the man who lied to get elected, starts an Ethics Initiative by telling us all to shut-up talking about tax?
Get him out.
Zuppy, that’s not how these things work…
Unfortunately.
‘Criminalise Hate Speech Against Women’ …..but I thought feminism was about equality. Can’t Scotland ‘Criminalise Hate Speech Against Men’ at the same time? And put an end to pseudo feminist and neanderthal women using hashtags like #Killallmen and #Maletears and then there’s the hardline uber-pseudo “feminist” manifesto of S.C.U.M.
It’s only fair and equal to criminalise hate speech towards both, although the ideal is not to ban speech of any kind.
Maybe I should just manspain that to the stupid pseudo-feminists…. but what would be the point, they’re neanderthals, are they not…. oh, well, I suppose I better just ‘man-up’ and ‘take it like a man’.
Not to support such a ban, but if it went through, then let the law in all its majesty ban men AND women who stalk, harass, abuse, threaten, doxx, and SWAT, just don’t be too shocked if the results end up seeming wildly disproportionate.
I wouldn’t be surprised.
But if one is pushing for equality, then one should push for equality not one-upmanship which is what this does if it were to go ahead.
It’s not about equality or one-upmanship so much as it’s about having, eg, rape threats thrown at you constantly on the internet or obscene catcalling on the streets.
And why should women get protection from abuse and not men?
I know the numbers are disproportionate in which gender suffers but we’re not going to get equality by protecting one and not the other. And feminism is about equality.
As a matter of interest, Clampers, are you against the idea of affirmative action in the US?
If done correctly affirmative action is a good thing.
Too big a topic to start now :)
Sure, but it’s not really affirmative action I wanted to talk about. I wanted to draw parallels to it and this case of women getting legal protection that men don’t. Whites dominate society and literally oppressed black people so we need laws to help redress that balance. It’s the same thing for women.
Equality for women there.
Hatespeech is Thoughtcrime
Well, no. If you merely THINK ‘I’m gonna beat you and rape you’ then it’s nobody’s problem but your own. If you scream it in someone’s face you can hardly say you’re getting arrested for a Thoughtcrime, can you?
Yeah, people cling on to the free speech thing a bit too much. Everything you do was a decision in your head. People do bad things because they have bad thoughts. They often learn those bad thoughts from other people. I’m not saying we should criminalise any kind of speech but I’m definitely open to an argument.
You’re always open to argument, Moyest, you scamp.
True. Arguing makes me feel like a big man….and I’m only half joking about that.