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Dublin Lord Mayor Críona Ní Dhálaigh

Louisa McGrath, in the Dublin Inquirer, writes:

Independent councillor Mannix Flynn has put forward a motion to the council’s protocol committee to decommission the title Lord Mayor and replace it with the more inclusive title of Civic Mayor.

“This would be in keeping with a much more democratic description and title. The days of Lords go back to a time when Ireland was under foreign rule and in many respects it is an alien colonialist term,” the motion states.

This motion will come before all councillors for debate at next month’s full council meeting.

Is it time to delete the “Lord” from Lord Mayor of Dublin? (Dublin Inquirer)

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45 thoughts on “Oh Lordy

  1. Eoin

    Civic Mayor? Oh for f……..so tired of this politically correct garbage. Just drop the ‘Lord’ part if you must. And leave it as ‘Mayor’. Civic Mayor my h*le.

    1. Dόn 'The Unstoppable Force' Pídgéόní

      Poor Eoin, the world must seem a scary place. It’s ok.

      1. han solo's carbonite dream

        i’m not scared but I’m with eoin. Ideally i’d like my councillors to debate more practical matters than this nonsense…cos nonsense it is.

        I’m only surprised said fool didn’t request the title be mayor-person.

        1. Dόn 'The Unstoppable Force' Pídgéόní

          It’s more nonsensical to think that they can only debate 1 issue at any given meeting

    2. Major Thrill

      Removing titles originating from feudal monarchies from common use in a republic has absolutely nothing to do with not being allowed call someone a cripple or a poof.

  2. Tony

    To see a female Sinn Féin councillor wearing the Chain that King Billy presented to the people of Dublin in 1698 shows how far we have come. From what and to where, I’m not sure, but people seem to think that we should always be progressing…

      1. Tony

        Top class lady. Great Irish, great local attention and well able to represent the Unionist citizens of Dublin as well

    1. Rob_G

      I don’t know – King Billy was a progressive sort, wasn’t he? First gay king of Great Britain and all that.

  3. Caroline

    Mmm, colonialist. Because if Ireland hadn’t been under foreign rule it would have been an egalitarian meritocracy and would never have enforced a crushing, inescapable social hierarchy.

    1. Tony

      A bit of Stockholm syndrome exhibiting itself there Caroline. Up the free Republic that gives us our freedom to celebrate and the freedom to whinge.

      1. Dόn 'The Unstoppable Force' Pídgéόní

        Tony’s right. We are never allowed to whinge in the colonies, that’s a floggable offence.

          1. Dόn 'The Unstoppable Force' Pídgéόní

            Don’t listen to her. I, for one, really appreciated it. I have since reflected on my life as a woman and will endeavor to be a woman more like Tony.

          2. Caroline

            And could you maybe give the republic a little kiss while you’re at it? Little peck on the cheek for all the freedoms it gives you.

          3. Dόn 'The Unstoppable Force' Pídgéόní

            A little peck for Handsy Uncle Republic? IT WOULD BE A JOY!!!

  4. ahjayzis

    Can we just abolish the position altogether and have a proper democratically elected Mayor and city executive? Dublin is really poorly served with all major infrastructure decisions made by central government, with an eye to the rural vote.

    1. Tony

      Ah, god be with the good old days, when you didn’t have to worry about the plebs beyond the pale… Thank god she didn’t fall on us.. The only people responsible for Dublins ills are the forgotten spawn of British soldiers who inhabit her..

      1. ahjayzis

        Cool cud-chewing rant, bro.

        It’s not about plebs beyond the pale, it’s about Ireland not having any actual local government system worth talking about.
        Dublin is Ireland’s engine, it funds itself and it funds the country. All I’m suggesting is local areas be responsible for local expenditure, that’ll apply to Belmullet just as much as Dublin, even though Belmullet’s money comes from Dublin.

        But you’ve just demonstrated why a national government has a conflict of interest around Dublin and other cities, they’ll be worried about slackjawed yokels such as yourself wondering why there’s not a Luas running down the ditch you live in.

        1. Tony

          A luas? We are only getting used to Zebra Crossings still.. Steady on with your new fangled ways. As it happens, I am all for decentralisation. All for local pride and local investment. But the truth is, rural Ireland has no future as an employment base beyond basket weavers and gate welders. Dublin, Cork, limerick, Galway are going to see a huge surge in population and they will need the autonomy to steer their own affairs.

          1. ahjayzis

            Then we’re on the same page!

            If there’s to be a mass exodus from the country to the cities I’d like to see Cork and Limerick have powers to compete with Dublin, I think it’d be beneficial if we had more than one city-sized city in the country. But national governments have proven absolutely woeful in planning and development, they’ve too much on their plate, while we have 40 councils doing feck all and losing talent and experience by the day as their powers are continually eroded.

      2. Condescending Nana

        thank god they are rubbing out the republican scum in the streets of dublin, not a day too soon if you asked me.

      1. Dόn 'The Unstoppable Force' Pídgéόní

        Feminists hate sex and everything to do with sex, unless it’s talking about women

  5. Chromium

    Lord Mayor is normally the title when it’s a city with a Corporation, isn’t that right? And Dublin suddenly decided to copy London and be a Council instead a few years ago… so shouldn’t it just be Mayor?
    As for local powers, all for that, yes; have local politicians answering to the constituency and doing work like replacing leaky lead water pipes with non-leaky non-lead ones, having working local roads and transport and housing, taking anxious constituents’ calls and helping them.
    And let us vote for a central executive Dáil on a random basis – nothing to do with the locality – so our Dáil members will deal with legislation, not the parish pump.

  6. Charley

    Mannix Flynn, didn’t he play the John Gilligan based character in “When the sky falls”?

  7. Derek

    Long time reader, first time poster here ;-)

    Some of you fine folks might like to listen to my podcast interview with Críona (who was totally lovely and is super-passionate about what she does).
    She’ll be featured in Episode 2, released at the start of next week: http://www.facebook.com/HODCast

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