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Later today.

The C&AG report into Nama’s sale of it’s northern Ireland property portfolio, known as Project Eagle, to US investment firm Cerberus, is expected to be published.

Ahead of this…

A look-back at what some politicians said in the Dáil on June 29, 2016 during a debate on a motion put forward by Independents 4 Change TD Mick Wallace, in which he called for a Commission of Investigation into the Project Eagle sale (above):

Michael Noonan, Minister for Finance and Fine Gael TD:

The NAMA Act rightly established a high degree of public accountability for NAMA and established an independent board to implement NAMA’s commercial mandate.

Indeed, a number of NAMA board members first appointed in late 2009, including the chairman and CEO, continue to progress diligently NAMA’s commercial mandate to this day.

In addition, long-serving members of the House will recall that the then Minister, Mr. Brian Lenihan, agreed to the establishment of NAMA’s Northern Ireland advisory committee under section 33 of the NAMA Act following discussions with his counterpart in Northern Ireland, Mr. Sammy Wilson.

The board of NAMA appointed a person from Northern Ireland to the advisory committee who had been recommended by Mr. Wilson to Mr. Lenihan.

It should be remembered, however, that the Northern Ireland advisory committee had no decision-making powers and no access to confidential information.

…We had a repeat of the allegations today by Deputy Wallace. If he is so sure of the veracity of these allegations, he does not need the cover of privilege to make them. If he is so sure of his grounds, he should make them outside the House.

Deputy Clare Daly has a peculiar attitude to commissions of investigation, seeing them as trawling instruments which may come up with something after which proceedings would follow.

I remember reading “Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland” and it was either the Mad Hatter or the Dormouse who said “Verdict first, trial afterwards”.

That is the sort of due process being advocated in the House by people who make allegations under privilege which they do not substantiate or make in public without the cloak of privilege to protect them.

… taking into account the investigations that are under way, it is my view that there is no specific line of inquiry that could be usefully pursued by a commission of investigation.

The appropriate investigations are already taking place in the appropriate jurisdictions.

It is unwise to launch a costly commission of investigation on claims that are under investigation by the appropriate authorities.

 

Michael McGrath, Fianna Fáil TD:

Fianna Fáil has been consistent in asking that all aspects of the Project Eagle sale be thoroughly examined and investigated”.

Last October, I moved a motion, on behalf of Fianna Fáil, calling for a Commission of Investigation under the terms of the 2004 Act. We called for this on the basis that the allegations were of such a serious nature, the public would demand nothing less than a comprehensive inquiry which would get to the truth and be able to make clear findings in relation to any wrongdoing on the part of individuals…”

“…In its evidence before the committee of public accounts, and in its public commentary on Project Eagle, Nama has argued consistently that no issue has arisen regarding the sale side of this transaction but, as I said last October, that is not an adequate answer.”

“Ultimately, the decision to proceed with the sale of Project Eagle was made by Nama in Dublin and Nama must account for the entirety of that transaction.”

“Based on information and allegations currently in the public domain, surrounding Project Eagle, a Commission of Investigation is warranted. That remains the Fianna Fáil view. The question is whether a Commission would stand any chance of success, running in parallel with a criminal investigation that is clearly gathering pace.”

Our honest assessment is that a Commission of Investigation, established in the Republic now, in the heat of an accelerating criminal investigation in the North would most likely run into the sand very quickly. This would serve no purpose. Do we really think that key people involved in this transaction, living in Northern Ireland, would voluntarily cooperate with a Commission of Investigation in the Republic while arrests are being made in the North?”

 

Gerry Adams, leader of Sinn Féin:

“I understand Mr John Miskelly began legal proceedings over the deal against Cerberus and Anglo Irish Bank on 21 June in the Belfast High Court.”

“Members will recall that Mr Miskelly appeared in the BBC “Spotlight” programme which brought some of the details of this case to light. He is alleging the Project Eagle process was fraudulent from the start.”

It is high time that the Minister for Finance made a full statement on all of these matters and I am disappointed he did not take the opportunity to do so today.”

“The National Asset Management Agency has been handling billions of euro of the people’s money and it should be accountable.”

“The Fianna Fáil Party agreed with our position on this matter. In October, the party’s finance spokesperson, Deputy Michael McGrath, stated: “There is simply no room whatsoever for any question marks when we talk about the sale of a State asset with a face value of over €5 billion”.”

“He went on to say: “It is also essential for the integrity of the House that a commission of investigation is established to find out the truth about the entirety of Project Eagle”. What has changed?”

Just two weeks ago, the Fianna Fáil leader, Deputy Micheál Martin, described the Government’s position on Project Eagle as untenable, yet despite a number of requests directly from me, his party will not now support the establishment of an investigation.

“The reason it gives for its position on this issue is entirely spurious and can only be explained by a desire to keep the Fine Gael Party in power.”

 

Pearse Doherty, Sinn Fein TD:

Fianna Fáil’s latest attempt at two-faced politics is utterly transparent and typical of its approach to politics.

Literally 15 days ago, Deputy Micheál Martin stood up in the Chamber and said that the Government’s position on the sale of Project Eagle by NAMA was becoming more untenable by the day.

He said that the sales process, whether we liked it and whether NAMA liked it, was not robust or competitive and did not secure the best outcome. He went on to say there were major ethical questions over the entire sale of the asset.

He asked whether it ever occurred to the Taoiseach that we should set up a commission of investigation given that the UK National Crime Agency, the US Securities and Exchange Commission and others were pursuing it.

That was the position of Fianna Fáil 15 days ago. The position of Fianna Fáil in October was to call for a commission of investigation to be established.

However, when push comes to shove, Fianna Fáil retreats into the establishment. It is afraid to look into issues but happy to look angry about them for a few cheap headlines.

Deputy Michael McGrath referred to how we had to ensure the criminal investigation was not affected. That is a great line from the spin doctors of Fianna Fáil.

The line is that we now have criminal investigations and that a commission of investigation is not warranted but Fianna Fáil is not doing a U-turn.

The reason none of that adds up is the UK National Crime Agency, the agency conducting the criminal investigation, announced in a press release to the world on 9 July 2015 that after receiving requests from the Police Service of Northern Ireland it was instigating a criminal investigation into the issues surrounding the sale of Project Eagle. That was on 9 July 2015.

In October 2015 Deputy Michael McGrath said it was imperative that the Dáil [launch a Commission of Investigation]…

Transcript via Oireachtas.ie

Previously: Screech

That Nama Vote In Full

19 thoughts on “That Was Then

      1. Kennysmells

        @ Postman Pat as long as he is doing the kind of work he has been doing for the past 2 years in Leinster house, i couldn’t give a monkeys about his tax issues from 8 years ago. Get your Fine Gael blinkers off and look at the real issues here.

        1. ahjayzis

          We can’t waste time talking about 5bn worth of state assets when there’s a few grand in taxes to be distracted with Kennysmells.

          The old FF/FG mantra of mind the pennies (i.e. beat the guy who owes 50 quid on his tv licence etc. to death) and the BILLIONS OF POUNDS in things like apple tax and nama assets and public utilities like telecomms companies and mobile phone licences will look after the rich.

  1. Joe cool

    This has the potential to bring the government down. Not his biggest fan, but Mick Wallace has done a great job here

  2. Kolmo

    Well done Mick Wallace! He was castigated by all purporting to act in the public interest in the Dáil, implications were made as to his motivations, he was actually threatened by those involved in the shady deals, the Ceann Comhairle tried to shut him up umpteen times, Kenny repeatedly fobbed off the serious allegations as if they were nothing, RTE pretty much ignored the allegations, the Gardaí haven’t shown any interest –
    Who is being protected? The vested property interests that bought FF in the 80’s (leading to the current property catastrophy) or is it the puppet masters pulling the strings in FG today?
    There is a direct link between the corruption, speculation and greasy goings on and the real, ever increasing risk of working tax payers being made homeless, never mind the unemployed, mentally ill or other high risk types already on the streets

  3. ahjayzis

    It’s kind of mad that we don’t have an agency designed to probe allegations like these, that it has to come from politicians.

    Anti-corruption agency now please. If any country ever needed one it’s Ireland, on public perception grounds alone.

    1. Nigel

      The electorate, in their wisdom, rejected the 30th amendment which would have given full powers of inquiry to the Dail. This is one thing Fine Gael or Labour can’t be blamed for. FF and SF opposed it, (in fairness, so did the Irish Council For Civil Liberties) and the electorate agreed. Every time people complain about inquiries and investigations, I remember this and try not to grind my teeth and swear.

      1. ahjayzis

        The answer isn’t to give public representatives prosecutory powers, it’s to hire and empower actual prosecutors to go after this stuff.

        Forgive me if I’d prefer highly trained and experienced experts in white collar crime and financial malfeasance to go after corruption rather than Mattie McGrath and the spawn of Healy-Rae.

  4. Redtop

    I demand a Commission of Inquiry into the Dail Chamber dress code and the tax affairs of elected representatives.

    1. Captain freegear

      Whever Mick does anything decent; the dress code tax mob show up and scream blue murder about tax and poxy pink shirts; you’d be astounded if someone told you this whole thing is about is how utterly corrupt the headless chicken that is Nama, and how Enda and slap head Noonan or running away as fast as they can from it.

      Ah sure lets keep shootin the breeze about pink shirts and the Tax thing from 6 years ago, who cares about the millions we all lost due to these clowns in NAMA.

      1. ahjayzis

        Same degenerate slack-jawed idiots who didn’t mind that Haughey was bent as fupp, sure didn’t he have lovely shirts we all fupping paid for.

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