52 thoughts on “De Friday Papers

      1. Kieran NYC

        Are you kidding? It pervily uses the death of an underage teen girl as an excuse to post a glamour picture and you’re so blinded by hate, you want to take a swipe at Enda because politics?

        1. Twunt

          ah here, there are many reasons to boycott the sun, but they’ve not overstepped the mark here.

        2. Sheik Yahbouti

          Ah, KFC, man up and let’s have less hysteria – “blinded by hatred”!! . The stock in trade of the mini -rags is dross of the type you rightly condemn. They are trash, and everybody knows it. However, when Enda gives in (on practically a weekly basis) to his “inner eejit” it reflects on me and every other citizen of this country. Do you really not see the problem?

      1. Dόn Pídgéόní

        Ah come on now. I’m starting to genuinely frightened about living in the UK and what it means for me and mine that politicians can start brawling in public, sending one of them to hospital. I don’t even really care what happened, I just want it to stop.

  1. Spaghetti Hoop

    Is the TES the ‘guest’ publication ala Whose Line is it Anyway style?
    Looking forward to Camping and Caravans, the Railway Model-builder etc.

  2. Starina

    for once – thanks, Irish Times. can we have our referendum now, please? none of this assembly rubbish

    1. Jess

      Think before that we’re obliged to disregard the woman on the right’s opinion because she has dyed hair or something.

    2. Zuppy International

      Tell us what the alternative to the 8th is. Lay out your plans in detail. Are their any limits on the claimed right to choose to kill babies?

      Then we can vote.

      1. rotide

        The entire point is that there should not be an alternative. The process can be dealt with by legislation and caselaw, it doesn’t need to be constituitionally enshrined.

        1. MoyestWithExcitement

          Nobody needs to. The vote can proceed without your approval and considering 74% want the 8th gone, the vote will pass without your conditions.

          1. Faecal Matters

            and now folks it’s Trollbot

            Here we go for another exciting day at Troll Towers

            Today Trollbot will teach us all
            a) how to vote
            b) make sexist, racist, defamatory comments
            c) take the higher moral ground in everything
            d) label anyone who calls him on it a ‘shut-in’
            e) say the same stuff over and over and over and over and over and over and over

            day in day out
            day in day out
            day in day out

            should be gripping

            hold on to your skinny double moccachinos

          2. Zuppy International

            Well you do need to outline the alternative to the 8th before repealing it, otherwise it’s all a scam orchestrated by special interests (Soros et al).

            The Irish Times fake poll is part of the strategy. 74% my bottom.

          3. MoyestWithExcitement

            “Well you do need to outline the alternative to the 8th before repealing it”

            Says who? You? You don’t matter. You’re just a bunch of words on a computer screen. 74% want the 8th gone. Nobody wants nor needs an alternative. Nobody needs your permission. The country will move on without you.

          4. ReproBertie

            Why don’t we leave the details to the medical experts who will, undoubtedly, be consulted by government when it comes to drawing up the legislation to be implemented following a successful referendum to repeal the 8th?

        2. Faecal Matters

          Excellent! It’s the baby murder guy!
          We haven’t heard that tune in at least 2 whole days!!

          Zippy, zipp, sip a doo dah yeah

  3. Trurh in the News

    What about the Central Bank payouts thet made themselves, have they forgotten
    about Patrick Neary and the rest of them.

  4. DubLoony

    Why is the British model the only one that’s referenced?
    Shouldn’t there be a review of international best practice.
    Spain has abortion by choice up to 12 weeks, based one medical grounds thereafter.
    Canada has no limits but its based fully in context of mainstream obgyn care, in hospitals and not in private clinics.

    Bottom line is that 8th has to go, so that we can actually work out the details.

      1. Steve

        Im for full repeal but huh maybe Enda was right. A vote to repeal wouldn’t pass. How many of the 55 would join the 19 in full repeal?

        1. LW

          Repeal would have to happen anyway Steve, as I understand it. I don’t think even restricted abortion is compatible with the 8th

          1. Steve

            Oh yeah sorry you’re right about removal , but the legislation that follows. That said I’m guessing that Enda meant a U.K style regime wouldn’t pass if ran now, when he said back in June, a repeal wouldn’t pass.

            We should vote on limited abortion, get they passed and move from there…gives us freedom, not the ultimate freedom, but freedom to achieve it.

            Too dodgy to vote on full repeal and lose . Which would put movement back 20 years

          2. Seosamh

            Not necessarily. We can have as many referenda as we want until we get the desired result. It’s worked before

          3. LW

            I personally think Enda was talking through his hoop, but I’m not overly fond of the man. I believe, but could be wrong, that once the 8th is repealed, abortion could be brought in by legislation not requiring a referendum. I don’t think the actual act will be voted on. I expect that the anti-choice side will frame a vote for repeal as a vote for full abortion, which could make the result a bit tighter than the poll.

          4. rotide

            That’s exactly what’s going to happen and those poll numbers only show how tight the poll could actually be.

            Think of the 55% as swing votes and it starts to become clear what could happen.

        2. ReproBertie

          No, Enda’s pretty far from right based on that poll. The 55 on their own would be enough to pass a referendum to repeal.

          only 18% said don’t repeal and 8% said they didn’t know. That’s not enough to prevent a repeal referendum passing.

      2. Sheik Yahbouti

        Too true, Bertie. The question is how much longer they’re prepared to allow us to dump our “problem” on them.

  5. MoyestWithExcitement

    74% of the country want the 8th repealed. All the chatter about toning the campaign down to win over voters is unnecessary and only comes from people who oppose abortion or misogynists. It’s really about telling women and free thinking people in general that they still have to ask permission from Catholic Ireland and men; that they need approval; that they’re still second class. This poll proves that to be bullshyt. Ireland will move on without the conservatives and misogynists.

    1. Faecal Matters

      *74% of people polled

      but what about the trollbots – who shall speak for them?
      locked away here in the interwebs

  6. rotide

    I’m astonished the figure for full access is so low.

    According to that poll the figures for people in favor of no abortion at all and people wanting abortion for more than just FFA etc are pretty much exactly the same.

    1. Steve

      Well in this broadsheet hipster bubble we don’t run into that many 60 year old farmers from belturbet.

      Confirmation bias anyone?

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