A series of tweets in response to Minster for Health Simon Harris, by nurse and midwife Polly.
Previously: The Flu? In Winter?
A series of tweets in response to Minster for Health Simon Harris, by nurse and midwife Polly.
Previously: The Flu? In Winter?
Nurses are class. They are the best people. I mean that genuinely and sincerely. They should have what they need at the very least. All things being equal they should have much, much more than that.
Exactly. The problem is that the Blueshirts despise the poor and the uninsured ill, so until this government collapses, nothing will be done.
The real problem is that the system as it is currently set up is not working. Much of the burden of the system not working falls on nurses and non-consultant doctors who are on the consultant track.
Many of them end up working huge amounts of overtime with a reasonable amount of that unpaid.
Lots of money is wasted on a bloated HSE, lots of money is wasted on the insurance companies, lots of money is spent on poor procurement practices, lots of money is wasted on HSE employees who game the system, lots of money is wasted trying to keep open hospitals which should be closed.
The ‘Blueshirts’ are partially to blame but so are every other party, as are the unions and a public which demands completely contradictory things from the health system.
She does undermine here argument with the typical Irish approach of hyperbole.
I’m not quite clear why nurses would be starving & relying on SVdP unless they were living far beyond their means.
You’d never do that Mr 6.6 Billion “reasonable estimate” man
Because their salaries are going on rent and travel. Particularly if they live in cities and moreso Dublin.
Do not forget the unions, change in work practices is met with resistance. If they would let non-Nurses do admin jobs, there would be a lot more nurses to do nurse work
Bingo, they’re terrified of IT personnell automating their stupidly cushy data entry jobs
You mean the public demands to stay alive?
You ever get the feeling that the very best people in this country are being used the worst?
Yep. Look at the fawning over the Apollo house “residents” whilst middle income workers are constantly shafted and put down.
No, that’s a ridiculous statement.
Who is putting them down?
How does this relate to some other group you don’t like?
… unless Glen Hansard works for Revenue…
Ah Jocky, would you ever eff off. You can bollock the homeless on another thread – this looks like pure FG “whataboutery” of which we suffer too much. Tell Indah (and his ‘media Manager) to cop on. This is getting old.
Jocky is a troll Sheik
She must work in some poo hole.
Just finished reading the whole lot and its bollox. Nurses not affording food. They’re all on more than me and I can afford food. She’s talking poo.
If I understand correctly, Anomanomanom (who I often don’t agree with) works in the health service.
Yes I do. I agree with her on everything. But if a nurse can not afford food something apart from her rate of paid is to blame.
It’s as if there may be more to her circumstances than you know about.
Thats my point. But thats not her rate of pays fault
Maybe she can only eat so much crap having to work alongside the parasites like you?
YOU are the loser, Anom, and you show it every day. Yeuuuuch.
Actually explain why. Is it because unlike most of you on here I don’t just go with the flock. That women is clearly talking poo. Im not judging her im just saying.
You ARE judging her and you’re not “just saying”. Now, have the guts to say precisely the capacity in which you work in the ‘health service ‘ – it is clear that you are not a Nurse, so – what are you?
What I do is my business. But any time someone on her disagrees with a post people ignore any point made. Do you believe a nurse can not afford food because of their rate of pay. Any other reason, out goings, mortgage, children is her own business and maybe would be a valid reason. her salary is not
No answer, Anom? Why is that unsurprising :-(
Anom, you are not a Nurse, I’m guessing you are not a Doctor!! So, what work do you do for the ‘Health Service ‘? This information would assist readers in judging your contributions accurately.
Its irrelevant to any contributions. The only point im making, or asking I should say, is about her saying nurses cant afford food because of the pay. Now if you think im so important that you must know what I do before saying if you think she’s telling the truth or not, im not important. But any nurse that cant afford food and is saying the reason is because their pay is so bad is lying.
Best guess, I’d say your working in hr, that would explain your heartless bile
Thats it ignore the actually content of my comment. Why the fixation on my job yet no answer to the question. Do you believe a nurse cant afford food solely because her pay is so bad.
haha grow up
hatchet man hr psycho
“Polly wants a cracker
Maybe she would like some food…”
I tip my hat
Anon, get educated & get a better job. More education = more sponduloxs Simple.
Oh I earn enough. I like my job. More money is not worth not likely my job. But my point is valet, how can a nurse need not afford food. And from what she says its because of her “low” pay.
Bloody dictionary changing the spelling to different words, but you get my meaning.
You can afford food but clearly not the necessary socialisation therapy then?
Maybe it’ll show up, but why was comment not put up. I basically called her a liar.
Oooh big big winner
I love the fact I get to you
Wow. Real winner
Clearly I am.
Yep your comment showed up. And you picked one complaint she had as some proof that it was all a load of boll… or poo as you call it. In order to create poo, you must have food. You’ve no problems then.
I agree with everything else. I picked the bare face lie.
I love PollyMolatov! So passionate and caring about her work.
polly = winner
Happy women’s Christmas Daisy
And many happy returns of the day to you too.
Irish nurses do amazing work considering the c r a p they have to put up with, they’re the best. They are totally undervalued by the Gov’t. The hierarchy of management in the Health system is the problem. How come other countries can manage with far larger populations?
Far larger population makes it more easy, no? Economies of scale etc.
Our relatively low population density makes these problems much harder to solve.
Because they have more health care assistants. Those are the actually people at the coal face who do the unpleasant work. However they don’t pay nurse union dues so we won’t hear about them at all. Instead we get propaganda wheeled out as fact via useful idiots at broadsheet.ie
All I saw was an incoherent rant.
Love the username. It makes it easy to determine that your comments should not be read. Thanks.
Nurses have to put up with a lot of poo but a lot of what this nurse has to say is simply not true. They actually do far less than their colleagues overseas. They just got a pay increase deal to perform various tasks previously undertaken by Irish doctors. These tasks are performed as standard by nurses abroad (without any pay increase). They have also pulled a quick one because they have taken the pay increase but they have not accepted doing the tasks.
The biggest lie though is that some of them skip breaks. Nurses NEVER skip breaks. Everything comes to a stand still rather than nurses skipping breaks. An operating theatre will close to allow nurses get their breaks. No such pauses are allowed for doctors. It is in fact doctors who skip their breaks on a daily basis.
The ‘study’ that they do to keep their jobs involves days off work to go to in-hospital courses to get professional development points. They are not doing seriously difficult courses that require 100s of hours of study and cost lots of money. They can take up more serious courses in order to move up the ranks but certainly not to ‘keep’ their jobs.
All that being said, it’s a tough job. Not because of the amount of work they do but because of the poo they have to deal with.
with regard to breaks, I’m guessing it depends where you are. I had the misfortune of spending a night in ED once and, while I’m sure all the staff needed a break, I doubt the nurses made sure they got every minute.
I’ve worked in frantically busy places and you don’t take breaks like you’re entitled to, and it’s not because of some sense of duty, gt’ to make life easier on your colleagues
wow, she tweeted the minister. Like that will change anything. !!
“Fundamental Shifts and decisive actions need if we are serious about ending this decade old situation – I am genuinely determined on this”
hmmm what could this fundamental shift be I wonder?
A move towards complete privatisation?
Here’s how the health scam works. Fine Gael cut 1600 beds. This creates a crisis. They then buy beds from a private firm to deal with the emergency they have created. Beds that were public go- private beds appear. We had 18,000 beds in the 1980s- we now have 10,000. They are running down public health intentionally. We need a National Health Service paid for through taxation of the rich.
Where are the billions going? You can’t get an MRI or a consultant for months on end in the public system, regardless of how many thousands in tax you’ve paid. You’re goosed without private health care, where premiums are increasing every year. We seem to be emulating the U.S. heath care system, and it’s a disaster for anyone without plenty of money.
Nurses are underpaid, as are librarians, teachers and a host of vital jobs that are classed as vocational. The real problem is not FG, but the drive the PDs made to create a two-tier health service along the US model. The HSE was a sound idea in theory, rationalising a plethora of regional health boards, but the implementation was flawed, and has never righted itself. FG, or any other govt, will have a massive job on their hands to right a system that’s bloated in the wrong areas, fundamentally undervaluing key staff in others, combined with a union that has become an end in itself rather than working to find practical solutions for its members or the patients for whom everyone involved works. And nurses are underpaid.
Arcol, you are completely correct. The rot began with Ms Harney and the PD party, who took their cue from the antics of Blair and Noo Labour (with the approval of the Tories). I am 65 years old and can tell you that there are fewer public nursing homes, “cottage Hospitals and general Hospitals – and thousands fewer beds, than existed when I was a child, despite a growth in our population. This is the circle which cannot be squared. In addition, Harney, whilst being one of the few politicians with balls, couldn’t overcome the laws of political expediency. Therefore, instead of a slim-line, potentially efficient HSE she was forced to retain every lazy, time serving waster in the myriad Health Boards which beset this country. The enterprise was thus doomed to failure. I profoundly disagree with the privatisation of public services, but recognise that the atrocious shitheap that is the HSE need not have been as bad as it is.
I like Sheik
Agreed. Very decent. As a thought, if Polly wanted a practical step, one might be to form a breakaway nurses union under which no officer could be paid more than 50% higher than the lowest earning member; in which there would be agreement not to strike, on the basis that this new union would sacrifice a tool that powerful in return for the massive public support it would engender; and which would prioritise finding solutions which acknowledge budgetary needs, salary fairness for new and existing members and the ongoing need to find more efficient working practices to allow all of the above to happen.
That’s true. Leadership of the masses is extraordinarily difficult as most people on low pay are so focussed on survival they haven’t time to lead. I advocate to a couple of representative workers groups. They are not unions but are staffed by volunteers and mostly retired folks. We’d need a really good recession here NOT funded by vested interests like EU or IMF to clear out the parasitic scum in government administration and the public service managements.
Harris is a prat who listens far too much to the HSE and DoH poohawks’ bullpoo.
He needs to spend 12 hours (a Fundamental Shift) in Limerick regional A & E and wards and trolley-laden corridors at the coalface…..roll his fuppin’ sleeves up and give a hand (decisive actions need)…..consult directly with the patients and health miners of hearts of gold, and he will learn …..no fuppin’ (IF)…. (we are serious about ending this decades old)…….. fuppin’ horrible joke.
Then, and only then, wouldl he earn the right to say he (is determined on this)
Here we go again with the nurses, teachers, gards, front line mantra again. All overpaid and a powerful lobby group to bang their drum. A Garda average salary is 65 K plus but all we ever hear is how PS workers are on the breadline.
Correct, public service unions ensure their members are over paid and under perform (compared to oecd figures and averages). For example why is it that nurses work 12 hour shifts? Obviously that’s not good for the patient’s but it is very good for the nurses as they get 3 days off in return for 4 days on. A long weekend every weekend. And they good their union to push this. Patient safety be damned.
They all do vital work. But the problem is the money some get paid is a lot for the work they do and rather than cut the dead wood its carried. Also anyone on €1000 up ward a week whos saying they are poor is lying
This is not about the gardaí. Why are you talking about the gardaí?
It’s another well looked after public sector union lying to us to get more public money.
Complete rubbish. Do you know any guards?
The Gardai threatened a strike for more pay. Their unions disseminated false info about their pay despite in reality being the most well renumerated section of the public service.
Polly got her metal on!
Aren’t there dishes in a kitchen somewhere that your bitter little soul needs to get back to?
Work practices ….
And at this stage
Are half the blame
Continued acceptance of the various relevant behaviours is the other half
Nurses are doing a great job under very difficult circumstances. Heard NUIG are doing a study which will hopefully serve to highlight this to our government in the future https://twitter.com/drivetimerte/status/817419467043049473
Not disrespecting Polly’s job or the trojan work other nurses do in anyway but 38 tweets???? Seriously? Not the best social media tool to use to try and get across such an important message as this. Good luck to Simon trying to find these in a legible order in his news feed with all the other tweets I’m sure he gets. Hope she emailed it too.