Intimate Partner Homicides

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Medb Johnstone is the producer of Fir, Marú agus Grá, a six-part crime documentary series beginning on TG4 tonight at 9.30pm.

Medb writes…

This series takes a stark and uncompromising look at six cases of intimate partner homicide in Ireland and examines the evidence that was presented against the accused in their murder trial.

In Ireland, nearly nine in every ten women who are killed are killed by a male known to them. By and large, these intimate partner homicides are usually preceded by physical or mental abuse, controlling behaviour and harassment.

But separation can also be a catalyst for violence and for women, it is often a dangerous time to be around the men they wish to leave. Fir, Marú agus Grá aims to shine a light on these tragic crimes and tell the stories that would otherwise be forgotten.

Episode 1 recounts the tragic tale of the disappearance of Aoife Phelan in Portlaoise in 2012. Her body was later found concealed 10 feet under ground in a blue oil barrel on the land of the man who killed her.

Episode 2 examines the killing of Catherine Smart in Mideton, Cork on Easter Sunday 2010.

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78 thoughts on “Intimate Partner Homicides

  1. Clampers Outside!

    Good trailer.
    Well done on making the series.

    Hopefully the series covers cases of IPV perpetrated by women too. The need to end the feminist myth that only men are perpetrators of DA, IPV and DV is now, not later.

    Again, thank you for tackling the subject.

        1. MoyestWithExcitement

          If I could be bottomed I’m sure I could find a post of yours whining about insults and blah blah blah.

          1. MoyestWithExcitement

            Maybe people feel you deserve to be insulted in certain instances so you can forget using your ‘I’m above this’ defence seeing as you clearly aren’t?

          2. MoyestWithExcitement

            You *just* admitted to whining when people use insults. Like, 5 minutes ago.

          3. Clampers Outside!

            Idiot in this instance is quite justified.

            Being called nazi alt right fascist homophobic Islamophobic xenophobic transphobic misogynist etc. has not been justified when thrown my way.

            I am happy to disagree with you, if you wish. But if you see them as the same, fine, I don’t care.

          4. MoyestWithExcitement

            Sit back and read that post again, Clamps. This could be a learning moment for you; a chance to take a step back from the Alt Right abyss of misery you jumped into ages ago. Try and read it from somoene else’s perspective. Do you see the cognitive dissonance on show? It’s perfectly ok for you to use a totally generic insult because it’s “justified” and specific terms like ‘misogynist’ are not.

            “Idiot in this instance is quite justified.”

            Says who and according to what objective metric? None, obviously. You FEEL offended and your brain has decided that your feelings are objective reality. It’s “justified” for YOU to call someone an idiot yet when someone speculates that you have irrational fear/hatred for women and Muslims BASED ON THE THINGS YOU ACTUALLY SAY, that’s, somehow, not justified, Your FEELINGS aren’t objective reality. THINK, for a change.

          5. Clampers Outside!

            Moyest pet… I’m not offended, thanks. Please keep your feeling that you perceived offence to yourself, those are your thoughts, not mine.

            Yes, Moyest, I say things. If idiots misinterpret them I am not responsible for that misinterpretation. And those misinterpretations usually follow with an accusation.
            Accusations are not points, they are just accusations. Just because someone levels an accusation towards someone does not make that accusation true. That’s what regressive hard leftists and morons do. They insist that their accusation is a fact without making any effort to determine that fact, accept for their repetition of the accusation.
            I have rallied against the use of feels and feelings and subjectivity on here many many times. Last thing I need is a lesson on that from your good self Moyest, in fairness :)

            Hope your weekend is a good one !

          6. MoyestWithExcitement

            “I have rallied against the use of feels and feelings and subjectivity on here many many times”

            And here you are calling someone an idiot and saying it’s objectively justified because your feelings were hurt. Mate, you’re a lost cause.

            “Hope your weekend is a good one !”

            I won’t be spending it sitting in a bedsit reading insane misogynist rants about women that are presented as “articles” so I’ll probably having a better one than yourself. Have fun! :)

          7. Clampers Outside!

            Where have I said my feelings were hurt…. Oh wait, I didn’t nor did I make any expression to that effect.
            Just because someone has a debate with you Moyest does not mean they have had their feelings hurt.

            I think as a troll, you just expect what you want to hear to be the only outcome… but that’s just me guessing.
            Your closing comment was lovely to know, that you make judgements of people based on what you feel how they have reacted to you. Must be quite the echo in there, listening to yourself like that, confirming your own opinions back to yourself.

            Good lad

          8. MoyestWithExcitement

            “Where have I said my feelings were hurt…. Oh wait, I didn’t nor did I make any expression to that effect.”

            I see, so when you call 3 people idiots in quick succession on a thread about female victims of violence it’s because you’re perfectly calm and not feeling feelings because feelings are for the weak.

          9. Clampers Outside!

            I called the first idiot out for an idotic comment. I later found out he said he was being flippant. Fine, I said. Still though, it was idotic, flippant or not.

            Then there was you… not in quick succession but after many comments.
            And not until after wilful display of ignorance, shown in your lack of understanding of what ‘reciprocal DV’ is which you repeated many times in many comments. Something that can clearly be described as… you guessed it, ‘idiotic’.

            Feelings are not just for the weak. Don’t be silly… although, that’s all you tend to say isn’t it… silly things.

            I do like though, how you couldn’t get me to admit being hurt, so then you turn around and say that I have no feelings…. that made me chucle in fairness. You could get me one way, so you tried the other side…. with your assumptions.

            Pathetic Moyest…. funny, nut pathetic all the same. You are a truly useless troll at this stage Moyest :)

          10. MoyestWithExcitement

            “I do like though, how you couldn’t get me to admit being hurt,”

            Sorry, missed that the first time (I tend to just skim through your incoherent and looooong ramblings.) That may be my most favourite thing anyone’s written here. It’s like someone wrote you. :)

          11. Clampers Outside!

            Bad grammar aside, and thanks for fixing by the way, it’s clearly a rushed comment.
            Glad you like it, all the same, for whatever reason you have imagined.

            Have a good weekend Moyest.

        2. ReproBertie

          Says the kettle.

          That there are male victims of domestic violence is no big secret. This is a series specifically about murdered women and, as usual, the numbers are the issue. “Almost 9 out of 10 women murdered by a male known to them” according to the post above. What’s the corresponding number for men killed by females known to them? But you can’t let it go. Your on-going crusade to ensure that anything that deals with issues affecting women is challenged unless the corresponding impact on men is shoe-horned in somewhere takes precedence. You’re Loretta and nobody’s going to call you Stan.

          1. Clampers Outside!

            40% of DV victims are male.

            https://www.theguardian.com/society/2010/sep/05/men-victims-domestic-violence

            ” Campaigners claim that men are often treated as “second-class victims” and that many police forces and councils do not take them seriously. “Male victims are almost invisible to the authorities such as the police, who rarely can be prevailed upon to take the man’s side,” said John Mays of Parity. “Their plight is largely overlooked by the media, in official reports and in government policy, for example in the provision of refuge places – 7,500 for females in England and Wales but only 60 for men.” “

          2. ReproBertie

            In Ireland? Really? I don’t just throw posts up for the fun of it. I went looking first and I found 1 back in 2009. There are other cases (like Catherine Nevin) where the women are involved but not the actual killer.

          3. Clampers Outside!

            Also, thanks Repro, for clarification that the series is one sided. Clearly my Irish is not so good. Although the blurb could have clarified that it is a women only docu series.

          4. ReproBertie

            That 40% is Domestic Violence and I already said that it’s no secret. We’re talking about murders. Fir, Marú Agus Grá. That Marú is important.

          5. ReproBertie

            How’s your English? The entire trailer is subtitled and there’s a massive hint in the screen shot above.

          6. Clampers Outside!

            Hello Repro, like I have said before, you won’t get the stats on male deaths in Ireland, because we don’t keep any data in Ireland.
            http://www.thejournal.ie/ireland-cso-figure-smale-domestic-violence-2418782-Nov2015/

            If the statistics on male victims of DV are not kept, we will not be able to figure out the numbers of deaths as a result of DV.
            Ya follow?

            Again, this is why I often use UK or other western country stats. Or as in the vid below the meta analysis data of 280+ research studies, with 300,000+ participants, completed across 7 or so western countries.

            Also, please note, that Cosc estimate that it’s as low as 1 in 20 male victims report DV; where as 1 in 3 female victims report DV, to Gardaí. http://www.cosc.ie/en/COSC/Pages/WP09000005

            We need more stats Ted. The govt is very slow to give a sh**

          7. ReproBertie

            The point is murder.The crime statistics figures don’t go into detail on victim gender so it’s hard to get figures but I did find two old reports on homicide in Ireland.
            http://www.justice.ie/en/JELR/Pages/Homicide%20in%20Ireland
            Looking at those reports from 1972 to 1996 221 females were murdered, 89% of them by males, and 572 males were murdered, 7% of them by females.

            That’s 89% of murdered females murdered by males and 7% of murdered males murdered by females.

            We don’t get details on victims known to or in relationships with perpetrators but we do know that 25% of the females murdered were murdered by their husbands while 5% of the males murdered were murdered by their wives.

            So almost 9 out of 10 women murdered by males and 1 in 4 murdered by their husbands Vs almost 1 out of 10 men murdered by women and 1 in 20 murdered by their wives.

          8. Clampers Outside!

            @LW and @Repro
            I never argued those stats you have presented in your links. Please don’t make out that I have done so.

            Yes, the point is murder. And murder of a partner, by man or woman is no less or more heinous.
            Yes, men murder more partners than women do. My point as my point has always been, that to ignore the female male rate is wrong. And yes, this does need to be repeated more and more and more.

            Why?
            Because still today, those in power around DV intervention are hiring international speakers to come to their conferences and tell those working in DV that the ‘patriarchy’ is responsioble and that The Duluth Model must be maintained as the chosen DV intervention method, a model which sees only men (and boys) as perps, and only women )and girls) as victims. — For examples of this just view the speaker list for the SAFEIreoland domestic violence conference. Karen Ingala Smith a well known misandrist and radical feminist who preaches and lectures that stats on male victims of DV are “dangerous” and “unhelpful” to her feminist movement.

            So long as that kind of hate is spread by feminists at domestic violence conferences part paid for with my taxes, I’ll continue pointing out the misinformation, the one sided views and every other problem with the ideologically informed interventionist procedures for DV that are clearly not fit for purpose.

            You two can call me whatever the fupp ye want for pointing these out. But that’s all ye have done, name called and made accusations… and then gave links to the womens deaths, and the few recorded male deaths.
            Did I say at any time that these differences in perpetration were narrower or fewer, no. Did I say data collection needs improving, yes.

            Does your data show reciprocal violence, no. How many DV situations occur that are reciprocal? Up to 70% (see the vid).
            Focusing solely on ‘death’ figures does not achieve a better understanding of DV.
            If you watched the vid below you would see why this is a problem. But instead you are more interested in making me out to be some woman hating loon who wants only attention for the men, when all I want is for the narrative that DV is a male only crime to be confined to the bin of nonsense.
            No one argues that men kill more in DV. After all, men are biologically different and men are physically stronger. That’s why women die in DV. Men hit harder.
            In DV situations, women are as quick and quicker by a small margin to resort to violence. This cannot be ignored, and is only starting to be looked at.

            Women’s Aid are against this information coming out. Why is this? What else have they known for decades that could have improved DV intervention services? How many died because of this one sided approach to DV?

            Focusing on just deaths is not and will not solve DV problems. But hey… you guys know best… or something.

            Btw, having watched that programme, I thought it was pretty good.

          9. MoyestWithExcitement

            “You two can call me whatever the fupp ye want for pointing these out.”

            So you recognise it is justified to refer to you as a misogynist for spewing your misogyny then. Good man, Clamps. That’s progress.

            “But that’s all ye have done, name called and made accusations…”

            Just like you.

          10. MoyestWithExcitement

            “Does your data show reciprocal violence, no. How many DV situations occur that are reciprocal?”

            Clamps would like to know how many women recorded as victims of domestic violence actually brought it on themselves. Clamps definitely doesn’t hate women though.

          11. Clampers Outside!

            Clearly, as pointed out below. You do not know what reciprocal violence is, and are running up and down this thread displaying that ignorance by suggesting that reciprocal violence means the woman was asking for it or brought it upon themselves.

            You’ve really, really, really shot yourself in the foot with that display of ignorance, which shows you are just out to demonise me, not looking at what I have said.
            No effort to even understand what ‘reciprocal violence’ just an accusation that bringing it up, according to you, means she was asking for it. Ridiculous display of ignorance.

            Thank you again, for making my points for me.

          12. Clampers Outside!

            ” So you recognise it is justified to refer to you as a misogynist for spewing your misogyny then. Good man, Clamps. That’s progress. ”

            No. I said you can call me what you want. Accusations are just accusations Ted. I don’t recognise your bulpoo accusations. If I did, then regressives like you would get their way through their repetitive name calling and demonising. That’s regression, not progress.

          13. MoyestWithExcitement

            LOOOL!! Yes, mate. Some bloke in a comments section noticing that your desire to talk about women bringing violence on themselves definitely proves that feminist shelters are lying and biased. Incredible.

          14. MoyestWithExcitement

            “Accusations are just accusations Ted”

            Accusations are made for reasons, Dougal. In your case, you post really disgusting stuff about women and Muslims.

          15. ReproBertie

            Clampers I focussed solely on death figures because this is a series of programmes about men killing their partners to which you responded with “Hopefully the series covers cases of IPV perpetrated by women too” because you want to make sure that they treat the 5% of murdered men equally with the 89% of murdered women.

            You were first in with the name calling by the way.

          16. Clampers Outside!

            ” noticing that your desire to talk about women bringing violence on themselves ”
            I never said that. You did. Because you don’t understand the phrase used, I think.
            Again, ‘reciprocal violence’ does not equal ‘women bringing violence on themselves’.

            You are well and truly ignorant of the subject of DV and the meaning of the phrase ‘reciprocal violence’ by making the assertion that it means a woman bringing violence upon themselves. It doesn’t. Again, watch the vid.

            And you’ve made that incorrect assertion that women bring violence on themselves, what….. three, four …maybe five times in this thread….

            That’s not a mistake that’s willful ignorance by an idiot with a bee in their bonnet who believes they’ve got someone on the ropes and runs around trying to hammer home the idea… not realising they are further displaying their complete ignorance of the matter.

            Again, if you watched the video with Dr Tonia Nichols you would not be having this problem.

            – – – – –

            ” you post really disgusting stuff about women and Muslims ”

            One example at least of each of yur accusations please, or it didn’t happen…… thank you

          17. MoyestWithExcitement

            Seo dhuit, as an thread seo “It’s about the lies told by feminists who run DV shelters”

          18. Clampers Outside!

            No.
            Like I said. The stats are not complete. The sources you quote also say that.

            You assert that I want to equate the “5%” with the “89%” which is just you making an assertion. It is not and never was something I said, and never will be. To do so is stupid.
            What I have said is that the narrative constantly told, and from official sources like SAFEIreland and Womens Aid is that men are the perps and women are only ever victims.

            This narrative is wrong. This is a lie. This is an ideology informed position. This is not a position based on facts. This intervention method does damage to men, women and kids.
            This is what I have gone against.

            Change the narrative and let the figs speak for themselves. And when the figs speak, let them be independent of all and any ideological spin and any feminist agenda.
            Not much to ask.

            And please, stop equating my targeting feminist ideological lies as attacking women. It’s getting idiotic at this point.

          19. ReproBertie

            “let the figs speak for themselves”
            89% V 7%. (The 5% I mentioned earlier was husbands murdered by wives, not males murdered by females)

            They’re speaking pretty loudly as it is but you insist on the 7% being talked about to fight “feminist ideological lies”. Those cunning feminists getting murdered by men to further their ideological lies.

          20. Clampers Outside!

            I didn’t say what you imply.

            Stick to what I said, thanks.

            Again, I’ll repeat it for you – you assert that I want to equate the “5%” with the “89%”.
            Not I, ever.

          21. ReproBertie

            Fir, Marú Agus Grá is a programme about men killing women they loved. We know that from 1972-1996 89% of women murdered were murdered by men. We also know that in the same time period 7% of men murdered were murdered by women. We know that 1 in 4 of those murdered women were murdered by their husbands (we do not have figures for those killed by partners in other relationships) while the same figure for men is 1 in 20.

            “Hopefully the series covers cases of IPV perpetrated by women too.”
            Your immediate reaction to a programme looking at 6 of the cases of women murdered by men who claimed to love them was to try and drag the 7% into it because to do otherwise is to perpetuate “the feminist myth that only men are perpetrators”.

          22. Clampers Outside

            Sorry mate, you were the one in this discussion that started on the stats.
            Don’t be suggesting I made claims prior to you getting perky with no.bers…. you intriloduced them here.

            Please re-read my original entire comment. Yes, I made a hopeful request on not full information.

            But that doesn’t make it a stats battle as you make out.

            That is clearly your reading of what you believe I am like, and not what I said.
            You went on a rant, I then used numbers to show you what I was on about…. I did not start by making claims like you say.

            You got triggered mate. Don’t go blaming me.

          23. LW

            Hi Clampers. My Friday is pretty boring too, so I may as well piss in the wind and reply to you. You said below the thread doesn’t lie, it’s the only thing you got right. Let me paint you a picture of what anyone clicking on this post would see.

            First, the title, Intimate Partner Homicides. I know Broadsheet is big on puns, but still, it’s a bit of a tip off.

            Then we get into the body of the post, and grand, you don’t understand Irish, so we’ll leave the four Irish words in the post alone. Even though surely you’ve seen one of them on the toilet door often enough to know it’s not a tree.

            We then get the blurb from Medb, in English. She reused the phrase from the title, Intimate Partner Homicide, at this point it’s clear what the program must be about. Her second paragraph contains a striking statistic, that nearly 90% of women killed in Ireland are killed by a man known to them. This certainly warrants some air time on its own, would be my opinion, but we’ll leave that to one side.

            Then we come to the comments, and you’re first out of the traps, hoping that this program about Intimate Partner Homicide also deals with Intimate Partner Violence committed by women. This is like seeing a program about drunk driving and demand they shoehorn in something about speeding too.
            Then Repro took the piss out of your whataboutery and you called him an idiot. Things descended from there, but one of the highlights for me was this exchange: Clampers – I can’t read Irish
            Repro – Can you read English? the whole thing is subtitled
            Clampers – Please stay on topic

            Anyway Clampers, as noble a calling as it is to haunt the comment section here complaining about the left, feminism, and whatever other evils plague your day, would you consider doing something productive? For example, you say there are no figures on men murdered by female partners. Well these figures are based on convictions, which are a matter of public record. It would be a trivial matter for a sufficiently motivated person to go through the male murder cases and produce that figure.

            Now Clampers, the telly is getting interesting, so I’ll leave you to it

  2. Sheik Yahbouti

    I was trying to get in to say ‘please don’t let Clampers see this’, but alas I was too late.

    1. ReproBertie

      If you think that my taking the mick out of your knee-jerk “but the men!” post in any way makes it pertinent then you are as deluded as you are obsessed.

    2. Sheik Yahbouti

      Yes Clampers, we get it. No matter who is murdered, brutalized etc.,(if they’re female) it’s really just all about you.

      1. Clampers Outside!

        No Sheik, it’s not about me.
        It’s about the lies told by feminists who run DV shelters, and the damage that their methods do to men, , for example, when reciprocal DV is ignored by such shelters. But hey, if it makes you feel better, just paint me a loon talking about myself.

        It’s not about me. It’s about intervention methods. Biased research. Intentional omissions from research like not interviewing men. It’s about those with the power in DV to demonise innocent men through the Duluth Model. And so much more.

        But thanks for participating.

        1. MoyestWithExcitement

          “when reciprocal DV is ignored by such shelters.”

          Here’s Clamps, for the second time in a couple of minutes, implying there are significant numbers of female victims who brought in on themselves.

          1. Clampers Outside!

            You clearly have no idea what ‘reciprocal DV’ is.

            By insisting that I have made a mistake here, you have shown your complete ignorance of the subject.

            Thank you for doing so, and demonstrating even further that the problem with heuristic bias in people’s thinking around DV must be changed.

            Thanks again.

          2. MoyestWithExcitement

            Dammit. The man who thinks lots of women seeking refuge from the violence of their partners brought it on themselves said thank you. He has completely outwitted me here.

          3. Clampers Outside!

            ” The man who thinks lots of women seeking refuge from the violence of their partners brought it on themselves ”
            That is is an assertion. I never have and never would make such an idiotic statement.

            Moyest is getting so frustrated that he is going to insist on this even though it is clear that it was never said.

            Because Moyest is a regressive.

          4. MoyestWithExcitement

            “That is is an assertion.”

            Based on the fact you think reciprocal domestic violence is a thing you completely stable and relaxed non misogynist, you.

          5. MoyestWithExcitement

            “Because Moyest is a regressive.”

            Labelling! Name calling! Accusation! Assertion! Etc!

          6. Clampers Outside!

            ” Based on the fact you think reciprocal domestic violence is a thing you completely stable and relaxed non misogynist, you. ”

            Reciprocal domestic violence is real, yes, and it very much is a “thing”. Your denial that is, as you inferred in the quote here, only displays your wilful ignorance.
            Again, for the last time, see the 280+ research studies on 300,000+ persons across 7 countries in the video to see for your self that is is a “thing”, as you say, that is very real, and not what you imagined it to be.

            You can assert away what you would like me to think. I know that I don’t think ‘reciprocal DV’ is, as you ignorantly say, about ‘women who brought violence on themselves’. It is not.
            That is the warped teaching of feminist propaganda around DV that you are spreading. You are regurgitating a feminist doctrine, nothing more.

            You clearly do not know what reciprocal DV is, as you have shown through repeated comments.

            But it did not stop you making that assertion anyway.

            It’s only name calling when it’s not true Moyest. You are a regressive as you have proven yourself to be through your tactics. To label someone legitimately a regressive due to their reactions is more than just name calling or labeling or whatever…. you can deny it if you like. As I do your nonsense.

          7. MoyestWithExcitement

            “To label someone legitimately a regressive due to their reactions is more than just name calling or labeling or whatever….”

            And to label someone a misogynist *isn’t* legitimate and *couldn’t* be due to *their* reactions and *is* just name calling or labelling or whatever, right?

          8. Clampers Outside

            I meant actions not reactions.

            And yeah, I called you what you are based on actual behaviour, not an assumed offence that you claim to see as you have I.

            Again, find a misogynist comment from me….. prove your ranting pet

  3. Starina

    i clicked on the comments just to see how much clampers freaked out. you don’t disappoint, anyway.

    1. LW

      A Clampers trifecta, violence against women, Gaeilge, and not reading the post properly before overreacting

      1. Clampers Outside!

        I didn’t over react Star or LW,

        I saw a programme about DV. I said I hoped it would not be just about women and hopefully is an “inlcusive” video series on all victims of DV because of the myth making feminists spread about DV.

        Then the pouncing comments, and I repsonded in kind. Read my original post, it’s polite, asks a question and is complimentary…

        ….then in comes Repro and Moyest. The thread does not lie.

          1. Clampers Outside!

            Yes. The Duluth Model is incapable of measuring reciprocal DV. It says that it doesn’t exist because it says that only men are perps.
            The workers in Womens Aid and SAFE Ireland are all biased through training in The Duluth Model… these problems which are universal across the western world to all feminist run shelters, are all mentioned and their implications for DV services discussed in the video.

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