‘Illogical, Totalitarian And Profoundly Sinister’

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In the Sunday World (above) at the weekend.

Vogue Williams tackled the subject of “radical extremists”.

In her column, she wrote:

Another approach was suggested by a Muslim former police chief Tarique Ghaffur, who said thousands of radical extremists must be locked up in new internment camps to protect Britain.

There are up to 3,000 extremists living in the UK – far too many to keep a close eye on.

This is something that should be decided by the people, but I certainly agree with it. The only way to stop these senseless attacks is to put any potential threats away.

I know it didn’t work with the internment of IRA members in Northern Ireland when 2,000 alleged paramilitaries were held without trial in makeshift camps.

But in today’s case the terrorists cannot be negotiated with. They want to ruin the western world and they will stop at nothing to do this, so we need to have the same approach with them.

Of the 3,000 extremists living in the UK, 400 fought for Islamic State in Syria and Iraq. MI5 has identified 23,000 jihadis in the UK in recent years but of them 3,000 are still considered a threat. We can no longer sit around and do nothing.

Further to this…

Donald Clarke, in The Irish Times, writes:

We should not call her [Vogue Williams an idiot. We should calmly point out that her views are illogical, totalitarian and profoundly sinister. Her column should be considered alongside the right-wing provocations of Ukip and Breitbart media.

The word “police state” is slung around too liberally in online discourse, but locking up suspects without trial surely constitutes one huge step in that direction. That is what Williams is proposing.

Vogue Williams is not an idiot, she’s a sinister totalitarian (Donald Clarke, The Irish Times)

Pic: Donald Clarke

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50 thoughts on “‘Illogical, Totalitarian And Profoundly Sinister’

  1. Nodin

    “We should not call her [Vogue Williams an idiot…..”
    Politically correct nonsense. Ordinary decent idiots know we don’t mean them.

  2. MoyestWithExcitement

    Nah, she’s an idiot. Her argument for internment is idiotic. She’s a blowhard with a lifestyle column. Her influence is neglible. I doubt she thought she was rallying anyone with her column.

    “The only way to stop these senseless attacks is to put any potential threats away…..I know it didn’t work with the internment of IRA members”

    She’s an idiot.

    1. Rugbyfan

      she got exactly what she wanted…people talking about it. As Hook rightly said on Brendan O’Connor’s show recently she is a nobody!

    2. martco

      ugh, this wan is def not my cup of tea
      I couldn’t care less what she looks like & she’s another self-fulfilling publicity stunt

  3. Friscondo

    We live in a world where Vogue Williams does (fascist) political commentary? I give up.

    1. LW

      Me too. A nakedly desperate attempt to snatch some spotlight. Or worse, her carefully considered belief

      1. Vote Rep #1

        “A nakedly desperate attempt to snatch some spotlight”

        She is quite obviously wearing a bikini.

  4. Blue nun

    Cue Brendan O’Connor support in the Sindo. And George Hook’s Complan show aimed at the Helly Hansen shower in South County Dublin. Morons. Let’s intern all over 65s with public sector pensions and yacht club memberships instead. Williams is a congenital narcissist right up the MOD VIP mag Straße.

  5. Nullzero

    Say what you will, but I challenge anyone to find a similar article written by somebody who has a picture of themselves in swimwear next to it.

  6. gringo

    I remember her granny,Boolavogue, a terror for setting gorse fires down around wexford.Them Vogues were always causing trouble.

  7. Pee Pee

    I think Donald Clarke is an awful film critic. His articles on movies are lazy, one dimensional, and lifeless. To write a piece where upon he discredits the idiotic views of Vogue Williams, shows you the level of where he’s at.

    1. I'm "alright" Jack. Mad Jack is on annual leave.

      Completely agree

      Tuppence hapenny looking down on tuppence

  8. dunphied

    As much as I totally disagree with her opinion, I do find it both pathetic, juvenile and sad that so many people here just stoop to name calling. Is it really necessary to do that? Grow up!

      1. dunphied

        Typical comment from one of the sites greatest losers. I really don’t know why you bother mate.

          1. dunphied

            Fun? You think your regular insults are fun? I’ve seen you post here regularly mate. You’re a unhappy hater and fun is miles from your agenda.

          2. jungleman

            I think it’s you who comes across as unhappy. And I’m not your mate. Sorry to disappoint.

  9. jungleman

    I like the way she says “the Prime Minister Theresa May (below)…” and then includes a pic of the PM..

    Just in case her barely literate audience don’t have a clue who the PM is (very likely).

  10. jungleman

    Whoever the BS moderator is on this post, are you really afraid that some ignorant overweight columnist is going to sue you for that fact being pointed out in a post? You’re letting yourselves down lads.

    1. mildred st. meadowlark

      You clearly missed the moderation blitz of earlier on.

      Comments obliterated left, right and centre.

        1. mildred st. meadowlark

          According to Bodger, it’s Chompsky who gets to play fast and loose with the moderation button.

          But I have my doubts…

  11. :-Joe

    The Sunday World?…. I didn’t even know that they were still printing that auld rag.
    Vogue who went said what now?…
    You’ve(edit:we’ve) all been had by the oldest trick in the pr book…

    Idiot, moron and imbecile have not been acceptable terms since the 60’s…. but strangely they were used to replace retarded which was seen as a bit harsh.

    The current acceptable terms are mild retardation, moderate retardation, severe retardation, and profound retardation but it won’t be long before that changes again…

    Why would you have a column with your own head-shot…. plus on the same page, a bikini pic with some blokes head-shot inserted presumably to somehow indicate that the author can also do other things etc. … and again on the same page just for good measure, a weird opinion piece about the internment of disgruntled and radicalised muslims in britain… plus another headshot insert of the leader of the Tories…?

    I was going to say never mind… some things are too daft and best left well alone but this really is retarded.

    The whole situation is an example of profound retardation by us and on each other in all the various levels that I can think of.

    Have a nice day….

    :-J

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