Sunday Morning Coming Down

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Ouch.

Dublin Cycling Campaign tweetz:

We’ve analysed the Road Safety Authority’s fatal collision data for 2017 and put together this infographic which focuses on cycling deaths. All of last year’s fatal cycling collisions involved motor vehicles, with the vast majority of fatal crashes occurring during daylight hours.

Dublin Cycling Campaign

Meanwhile…

Anyone?

30 thoughts on “Sunday Morning Coming Down

  1. Andyourpointiswhatexactly?

    I’ve to cycle home this evening. URGH. I’m sitting under a Velux window and it’s manky outside.

      1. Andyourpointiswhatexactly?

        Wise move, my friend. If you hear the vague sound of swearing in the wind as you go over the canal, that’s me.

        1. Brother Barnabas

          two more salient details to add to my ‘what I know about andyourpointiswhatexactly’ list.

          estimated time of showing up at workplace (revised): august 2023

          1. Andyourpointiswhatexactly?

            Sad thing is, I’ll probably still be sitting at this desk.
            I’m going to look expectantly at the door every time someone knocks now, though.
            Or do you plan on barging in, thrusting like one of the Three Amigos?

          2. Brother Barnabas

            better believe it, lady

            have still to iron out the details but I’ll likely be dressed in a harness, hard hat and a cape

            and I anticipate being in a state of extreme arousal

          3. Andyourpointiswhatexactly?

            That all sounds, erm, you know what? I’m struggling to find the correct adjective.

          4. Andyourpointiswhatexactly?

            It’s the noise I make when I profoundly disagree with an assertion you make.

  2. ReproBertie

    Are there any up to date figures for the numbers cycling in Dublin? I’ve been unable to find anything beyond September 2017 (95,000) via Google.

    1. Christopher

      The absolute number of cyclists is VERY important as it could help explain an increase in the number of deaths (ie if there was a 50% increase in the number of cyclists in a year you would expect a 50% increase in the number of accidents aswell).

      1. Mr. Camomile T

        Absolute numbers of cyclists doesn’t tell the full story. The statistic which gives a clear indication of improved/disproved safety is KSI per Km travelled. KSI is people Killed or Seriously Injured.
        The Km travelled can be estimated, but we don’t seem to compile data on the number of people seriously injured on our roads so it makes the KSI/Km rate difficult to calculate.
        Somewhat counter-intuitively, if more people are cycling we should expect cycling to become safer. There is a ‘safety in numbers’ effect whereby having more cyclists on the roads increases drivers’ general awareness and expectation of cyclists.

        1. Paddy at the Howth Summit

          The statistic which gives a clear indication of improved/disproved safety is the % KSI per Km travelled.

          “There is a ‘safety in numbers’ effect whereby having more cyclists on the roads increases drivers’ general awareness and expectation of cyclists.” Again, this is a distortion. You also need to take into account the number of people driving.

          Good book for you, 101: https://www.amazon.com/How-Lie-Statistics-Darrell-Huff/dp/0393310728

      2. edalicious

        I’ve seen it said that there’s been a doubling in the numbers cycling in Dublin in the last 5 years, and presumably increased a fairly regular rate over that time so a 50% increase of fatalities in a year would seem to be somewhat out of whack with that figure.

        I was thinking that it could be the increased traffic over the last year caused by the economy picking up that might be at fault but that would appear to be at odds with such a high proportion of the accidents happening on a Sunday and (maybe to a lesser extent) on rural roads.

    2. Andyourpointiswhatexactly?

      I think there are LOADS more. Certainly more than when I started cycling back in 2012.
      Thing is, though, they say the majority of fatal accidents were on rural roads.

  3. Cian

    15 deaths is 15 too many.

    However when dealing with small number you need to be careful not to read too much into “50% increase”. Last year’s 10-15 was a 50% increase. But if it drops back to 10 next year its only a 33% decrease!

    And if cyclists want 10-20% of the transport budget spent on them – then they need to be providing 10-20% of the actual transport.

    1. ReproBertie

      I can’t find figures for 2017 but the Canal Cordon report in 2016 has the following:
      Cars – 51,908.
      Pedestrians – 21,473
      Cyclists – 12,000

      12,000 (which is a suspiciously round number but we know it increased in 2017) is between 10-20% of the transport numbers.

      1. Cian

        Fair enough. I’m assuming these are Dublin numbers?
        In Dublin spend 10 to 20 % of transport budget on bikes

  4. Paddy at the Howth Summit

    Most fatalities are on rural roads on a Sunday during daylight hours.

    Solution: Saturday evening mass.

  5. Rich Expat

    They want more people cycling and they have achieved that so they are to blame for the extra deaths.

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