132 thoughts on “De Sunday Papers

    1. SOQ

      Maybe so but given what is coming down the tracks, the fact that two out of three of the major parties are working together is a good thing. The more stability the better because ‘in the national interest’ has never rang so true.

      1. jusayinlike

        “given that two of the major parties are working together..”

        “national interest..”

        €200bn

        1. MaryLou's ArmaLite

          Interestingly, due to our current 10 year bond rate of 0.8%, the interest on our national debt is only slightly larger than the interest on the 40bn we owed in the 80’s.

          If we can roll it over a few more times inflation will ease the burden.

          And yes it is still a burden we should not have but it is FF’s legacy.

          1. ReproButina

            Well FF did sign us up to cover the debts of their banker and builder mates so, in this case, it’s justified.

            In plenty of others, homelessness for example, it’s not.

        2. Mary Power (Mrs.), BA (Ord.) Law graduate

          Wow! You DO have a short memory don’t you?!! Remember the post-Brian Cowen dictatorship led by Enda…? No? And how the new Penal Laws (ska Austerity taxes) were forcibly brought in by whipping cowardly TDs into submission, prohibiting debate and guillotining all proposed amendments OUT before signing corrupt laws into our statute books?? Maybe you are too young/ too old to recall? Well, I’m not! Thank GOD!!! :-|

      2. Ron

        Sinn Fein on the cusp of power. I’m not a fan but I hope they are there. it’s the big kick in the stones the current filth who have been lording it over us need.

          1. Ron

            exactly Justsayinlike. I have to laugh at how everyone says that SF would be the ruination of the economy based on nothing but what they hear from others. SF can’t do nearly as much damage as what FF FG LAB Independent Alliance and the Greens have done to this country and its citizens. Time to drain the swamp!

        1. Mary Power (Mrs.), BA (Ord.) Law graduate

          I like SF social agenda but not happy about their stance on abortion – or MaryLou’s eagerness to crack the party whip. That bodes bad for them I think…

  1. SOQ

    Here is a question for you all. What happens if Britain leave without a deal and keep their word but the EU insist on a border? That puts Ireland in an impossible position because on one hand they are bound by EU rules yet on the other, constrained by the GFA. The will to erect a border is not there anyways of course, as it would be political suicide.

    1. Cú Chulainn

      The border becomes the Irish Sea.. which has been the case since the vote went through.. might be easier to have EU customs in Scotland and not Larne.. but that’s the reality..

        1. ReproButina

          The border being in the Irish Sea means the customs posts will be on ports and airports across the island of Ireland, rather that on the land border between Northern Ireland and the Republic.

          During the height of the troubles the House of Commons was told that trying to “enforce the inviolability of the land frontier as a military operation” would simply be impossible. The violence has ended but the impossibility of maintaining controls on the border remains.

          1. SOQ

            Yes the most likely outcome but also, the Unionist nightmare. Not that the DUP are in any way consistent in their demands because they don’t want ether abortion or equal marriage so it is only when it suits.

            If no agreement, Britain being outside of the EU mean that it will require a passport stamped or will the CTA cover that? I wold expect that at least a passport will need to be produced, otherwise how would they differentiate between Irish / British citizens and others?

          2. ReproButina

            The CTA is a bit of a minefield. There’s no CTA Act, for example, so it’s all very vague. A lot of it is just understandings and historic practices. The CTA “should” remain, and it’s one area that there has been as close to a joint Anglo Irish position presented to the EU as possible, but its future is not set in stone. It extends beyond simple travel though. The CTA allows Irish citizens in the UK access Irish pensions and allows British subjects in Ireland access theirs. That’s all up in the air now. Just another reality that the Sasamachs were oblivious too.

          3. Giggidygoo

            So, if a Northern Ireland based company wants to export to Southern Ireland (the EU) coming by road down the M1, which UK Port Of Departure and which EU Port Of Arrival will be used?
            If people are traveling from southern Ireland to Northern Ireland in their car, and filling up with cheap alcohol and then travelling NI to IE, how is that going to be controlled? (for example, I spent almost £220 two weeks ago in Northern Ireland, buying wines at less than half the price it is in the south. Additionally I could buy 204 Nicotinell lozenges for £20 while the price for 96 down south is €17 to €21 depending on where you buy them)
            How would that situation be controlled with a sea border?

          4. ReproButina

            If the border is in the Irish Sea then Northern Ireland remains in the customs union and your examples are no different from somebody driving from France to Belgium. No customs border is crossed so no controls are required.

          5. Ollie Cromwell

            ” If people are traveling from southern Ireland to Northern Ireland in their car, and filling up with cheap alcohol and then travelling NI to IE, how is that going to be controlled? (for example, I spent almost £220 two weeks ago in Northern Ireland, buying wines at less than half the price it is in the south. Additionally I could buy 204 Nicotinell lozenges for £20 while the price for 96 down south is €17 to €21 depending on where you buy them) ”

            Now you understand why even a majority of Catholics in Northern Ireland don’t want a united Ireland.

          6. Martco

            @Charger
            the only reason, the only reason that the drink, nappies, persil, tyres, American fridges (almost ad infinatum) are worth the trip up north is because your boys are shoveling £10+bn or whatever sum it is per annum in…when your wet dream Britainna rules the waves experiment kicks off & the cashflow stops I give it 3-5 years max to 32 counties.

            I agree with you on one thing…we, Ireland, ARE fckd. We’re getting norniron whether we like or not.

            It’s a big card trick.

          7. Giggidygoo

            @reprobutina. Quite a difference. NI is the UK. Once the UK makes its trade agreements, goods can be sent directly to Northern Ireland from outside the EU, as NI is part of the UK. And you’re saying that these will then be treated as EU goods if they travel NI to IE?
            And you then say that no customs border is crossed and no controls needed? I know, and you should know, that’s a load of rubbish.
            The only solution is an EFTA type agreement and that still doesn’t cover the Newry trips by southern people. Guaranteed that if there is a hard brexit, there will be at the very least spot checks for private cars, and customs procedures for commercial movements…..whether that is electronic movements or whatever. Currently, goods being imported into ireland under customs procedures go through a clearance process based on customs entries.
            Green – Entry accepted as is, goods can move straight through
            Orange – Further information required (more documentation)
            Red – Customs examination.
            And those are based on a consignment basis. So, unless the truck is going to a bonded warehouse, there are going to be delays on vehicles that are carrying groupage (i.e. a number of different clients goods) as one consignment going orange or red will delay the complete truck.
            And that would also apply to goods coming in under EFTA type agreement.
            Leo will need his extra customs officers.

          8. ReproButina

            I’m not saying anything Giggidy. I’m just telling you what the backstop that the British Taoiseach agreed to (the denied, then agreed to, then denied but hinted at) is. NI in the EU customs union and Britain outside of it so duty & taxes would apply when goods move from one to the other.

            This stuff is all in the public domain and has been since last year so I don’t know why it’s news to you.

          9. SOQ

            @ Oillie, if you cannot have a grown up conversation without nationalistic goading then please don’t bother. It’s juvenile and boring and it is turning people off from even reading let alone posting on this site. But maybe that is the goal eh?

          10. bisted

            @Ollie – I for one enjoy your comments and even today I’ve laughed heartily several times even though I would never agree with a single thing you say…to paraphrase a onetime brit overlord in NI…’don’t let the bugger grind you down’

          11. Bernie

            @ Ollie

            I have to agree with Bisted, l enjoy the baiting. You obviously have a deep grá for Ireland, you can’t hide that, no matter how ludicrous your statements are ;-)

          12. Ollie Cromwell

            Thanks lads – although to be honest I sometimes get bored of hooking the usual suspects on here and chucking them back in.
            It’s like walking up to the numpty in the Celtic shirt singing RA songs at the end of the bar and clouting him round the ear with a copy of An Phoblacht.

          13. SOQ

            So your amusement is more important people having serious discussions Bernie?

            Not only is people’s lively hoods gong to be ruined but some will loose their lives too if they don’t sort this mess out. Entire industries along the border region who export to the UK will go to the wall. The atmosphere this trolling creates is nasty and toxic, not to mention downright offensive to English people are not right wing zealots.

          14. Bernie

            SOQ

            See it for what it is, Ollie is on a 24/7 wind-up, if he wasn’t goading about Brexit, it would be something else. You have a choice as to whether you allow him to get under your skin or not and you don’t have to respond and get sucked into each debate.

            He did go too far with you when you revealed personal details a couple of weeks ago, that was not right.

            I care very much what happens to this country, in all 32 counties. Whether I tie myself in knots trying to get people to agree with my views, is another matter. We’re all opionated adults, we can get along without having identical political beliefs and thrashing them to death every day, hopefully having a bit of craic along the way. Life’s too short.

          15. SOQ

            And if you doubt what I am saying, consider this: ANY change in the political structure of NI will result in violence. If the border goes where the jurisdiction’s change it will result in serious repercussions and if in the Irish sea, likewise. Just look at what happened in Derry over the 12th ffs and that in what we call peace time.

            Trolling is a form of censorship by people who think they are more clever than the rest of us. But they are not, they are just empty vessels with stupid juvenile agendas. When someone new who may have something to say looks at that sh|te they just move on, and nobody can blame them.

          16. SOQ

            But that is the point isn’t, its not a question of ‘getting sucked in’ as he all over the site like a bad rash butting into every conversation. I know of two people who don’t bother with Broadsheet anymore because of this behaviour.

          17. Bernie

            SOQ

            Whatever is said on here is not going to change what happens, when the changes are implemented on the back of Brexit.

            Me arguing with you or Ollie or every Tom, Dick and Harry on here is not going to prevent rioting and all the rest of it. Enjoy today, it may be all we have…

        2. Giggidygoo

          @ Ollie.
          “Now you understand why even a majority of Catholics in Northern Ireland don’t want a united Ireland.”
          What a veritable silly statement. You should think before you write.

          1. jusayinlike

            Here Oliver Reed can you tell us again about how great Maggie Thatcher was for Bwitain again?

          2. Brother Barnabas

            that’s from 2015, charger – so hardly “the last major canvas”

            there have been several since then. one from queens / BBC in june of this year put support for a united Ireland at 42% (across both communities), broadly the same as want to remain part of britain

            the more embarrassing the brexit sh itshow becomes, the more those in NI will want out

          3. Ollie Cromwell

            The most recent Queens poll only found 21% of people in NI in favour of a united Ireland.
            The BBC poll was an online poll – these polls are notoriously inaccurate.
            The BBC/RTE poll from 2015 was the last major opinion poll involving face to face interviews of more than 2,000 north and south of the border.
            You’ve no chance of a united Ireland.

        3. GiggidyGoo

          @repro. NI can’t be in both the EU and the UK for customs purposes if there’s a brexit. Goods originating in England will be able to move to NI without tariffs, as they are one and the same nation. If those same goods are then moved from NI to IE then what’s happening is that UK goods would actually come into Europe tariff free. And IE could move them onto mainland Europe on direct ferries as EU goods. The effect is that the UK has managed to export its goods to the EU without tariffs. And the same could happen in reverse. Not happening in my opinion.

          1. ReproButina

            And yet that’s the agreed backstop so, unless the Brits can come up with a different acceptable working solution, that’s what we’ll be getting.

          2. ReproButina

            The backstop was agreed in December 2017 and, despite May’s back-pedalling, as far as the EU is concerned it will be part of the exit agreement.

    2. Mary Power (Mrs.), BA (Ord.) Law graduate

      THEN our politicians will have to seriously consider the option of “Irexit” which they have been blissfully ignoring up to now. Because they haven’t a brain between them. None of them. Only interested in taking selfes and pushing propaganda – as if it was only “all-about-me” and to hell with reality :-|

    1. Ollie Cromwell

      Yup,that’s why bankers have been fleeing the City of London for Dublin in the two years since the Brexit vote …. oh,hang on a minute.
      Fact is Ireland sinks or swims with the success of Blighty.Its fortunes remain inextricably linked with those of the mainland.
      Astute Irish people understand this.They’re as rare as hen’s teeth in a country conditioned to accept whatever it’s told either by Dublin or Brussels.
      Liability Leo is just the latest in a line of gormless Irish leaders making a fool of themselves on the international stage – not quite as bad as Biffo being drunk on air but definitely a passenger in the same clown’s car.

      1. Frilly Keane

        And yet Leo is @56
        And climbing

        You’ll do yourself an injury with all this tripe talk

      2. Spaghetti Hoop

        “Mainland”?
        Do you mean the European continent? We don’t call it that. We don’t call Britain ‘Blighty’ either. It’s a WW2 term which Britons use to describe Britain’s resilience against invasion in the 1940s. If you are going to discuss Ireland’s impact from Brexit, get your terminology straight. I am assuming you are a hard core British tabloid reader as you spout their language an awful lot here.
        I concur that Biffo was drunk at that the wheel but he served from 2008-2011, a period not relevant to Brexit negotiations.

        1. Ollie Cromwell

          Let’s see now.
          Haughey – a crook who fleeced his country.
          Ahern – Ireland’s then Finance Minister who didn’t have a bank account.
          Biffo – a drunk who couldn’t be bothered to read the treaty he was demanding the citizens approve.
          Kenny – Merkel’s poodle.
          Varadkar – airhead who makes a prize ass out of himself genuflecting for another drunk,Jean-Claude Juncker.
          A regular roll-call of third-rate politicians.

          1. jusayinlike

            LOL

            Thatcher – stooge / mates with Jimmy Savile.
            John Major – stooge who fell on his own sword with the EU, had an affair with Edwina Curry, who allowed Savile to live in broadmoore.
            Tony Blair – warmonger, liar, disgraced.
            Gordon Brown – disaster.
            Cameron – stooge, warmonger, fell on his own sword with EU.
            May – worse than all the above. Paedophile facilitator. Scuppered a royal inquiry into institutional paedophilia by appointing chairs who were conflicted or unfit for the job.

          2. mildred st meadowlark

            Ollie, sweetheart, that’s a very impressive list. Did you manage to think of all those names on your own? Well done. I’m sure if you go to Mummy she’ll give you a kiss, which won’t fix all the problems but it’ll make them disappear for a few minutes.

            Impressive lists aside (and I’m sure they’re not actually compensating for anything at all) all those names you so cleverly thought up actually have NO relevance to the topic.

            But good try old chum.

          3. Ollie Cromwell

            Apart from Churchill Thatcher was the most outstanding politician of the last century.
            A true world stateswoman respected across the globe for her achievements.
            Saw off the miners,Argentina and the IRA.
            Thatcher also saw through Haughey’s criminality and deceit when most people in Ireland,apart from a few like Vincent Browne,were too slow to work out how he possessed so much on a humble politician’s salary.
            Even today she would be one of the most recognisable people in the world.
            Ireland has Conor McGregor.

          4. jusayinlike

            “Thatcher was the most outstanding ”

            “saw off the miners..”

            Brilliant, she sold off Britain’s industries such as mining and car manufacturers to Germany on orders from the EU you silly billy.

          5. jusayinlike

            Tell us all about the success stories of MG rover, Leland and Jaguar, charger???
            Tell us again where the mini is currently built and who profits from it???

          6. ReproButina

            You think Churchill, the drunken, genocidal racist, was the most outstanding politician of the last century?

            You’re a funny guy.

          7. Giggidygoo

            @Ollie. Thatcher – respected? Not by her own people. ‘Ding Dong the Witch is dead’. Remember that one.

          8. Spaghetti Hoop

            You believe Churchill was an exemplary 20th century politician? He was a raging imperialist, fuelled by ambition and liquor – made some serious mistakes in office, was out of touch with his electorate and, to quote De Valera, ‘a dangerous enemy to the Irish people’. Ah wait, so was Thatcher.

          9. Ollie Cromwell

            Without Churchill you lot would be drinking schnapps and eating ‎Wiener schnitzel for your Sunday tea.
            Although to be honest Germany has managed to take you over without landing a jackboot on Irish soil.
            From De Valera being the first through to door at the German Embassy in Dublin to sign Hitler’s Book of Condolences to Merkel deciding on how much taxes you pay the Germans have got you stitched up tighter than lederhosen on a big behind.

          10. ReproButina

            You might want to pick up a history book there Ollie. The Western Front was an irritant while the Russians were busy winning the war.

          11. scottser

            ah now ollie, i think the nuclear destruction of nagasaki and hiroshima had more to do with halting the war than churchill ‘on the beaches’

        2. Spaghetti Hoop

          @Ollie: I was not challenging you to a comparison of Irish and British leaders, I was questioning your terminology, i.e. ‘mainland’ and ‘blighty’ in a discussion on the impact of Brexit on Ireland. Most of the week’s current affairs has been on this topic and I felt your terminology misaligned.

  2. ReproButina

    More reality avoiding, fact free rhetoric and insults.

    Why have EasyJet opened a subsidiary in Vienna?

    1. Ollie Cromwell

      It’s called forward planning.
      Most companies have contingency plans in place for all different scenarios.
      In Easyjet’s case no UK jobs will be lost and passengers will notice no discernible difference after Brexit.
      The same thing is happening in the City of London – a few back office staff could be relocated to get around EU legislation but the reality is no major institution expects any real change whatever the outcome of Brexit negotiations which is why so much office space is being sold at a record premium and more jobs are being created in the Square Mile.
      Goldman Sachs – one of the biggest architects of Project Fear – have admitted only a fraction of their staff could be moved.
      It’s like Liability Leo’s extraordinary air head claim this week.It just made him look like he was honking the horn as a wheel fell off his clown car.
      Always good for a laugh is that eejit.

      1. ReproButina

        But you were adamant that the airspace thing was thoroughly debunked so what contingency are EasyJet preparing for? What difference would passengers have noticed if they hadn’t opened in Vienna?

      2. jusayinlike

        Meanwhile, Bank of America and jp Morgan (project fear) set up their European hqs in Dublin not in London.. why’s that charger?

    1. ReproButina

      They release the covers to the media but black out the photos so that they don’t get shared and cost them sales of their exclusive baby photos.

      1. Ollie Cromwell

        You’re talking nonsense as usual.
        It’s not an ” exclusive baby photo ”
        First up it’s an official photo released by Buckingham Palace to all the media so it’s no exclusive.
        And Prince George is not a baby.He’s five years old which is why the picture was released on his birthday.
        But then you probably think it’s a grand conspiracy by the Brits to hoodwink the Irish.

        1. ReproButina

          I couldn’t care less what the photo is. I was explaining why they black them out.

          EasyJet in Vienna? Any answer?

  3. Gabby

    Brexit continues to be a big headache and one doesn’t know what brand of aspirin to take with a glass of water. Apart from that, the shockingest story seems to be about Turmoil in the Irish Red Cross. Will they remove the bandages and let us examine how the wounds are healing?

    1. Giggidygoo

      Well the bandages haven’t been removed totally from Console. Where’s Paul? Nor on the coffin business of FG Flannery. Nor on the Moriarty dust-gatherer (there must be something really interesting in that one)

    2. jusayinlike

      “Will they remove the bandages and allow us to see how the wounds are healing”

      Nope, than you’d see the people funnelling their money through a tax exempt charity..

  4. Ron

    With all that has been going on, the one thing we do know is that the the risk of a global recession in 2019 has now significantly increased. Get ready for it because it’s going to be on a scale never seen before. The likes of Leotard and his band of merry minions aren’t competent enough to understand what’s going to happen. When it happens not even the craziest of Leotards socks will deflect from the anger that they are going to face from citizens in this country. Sinn Fein are on the cusp of power. A general election in the morning will probably see FG re elected. FF are finished based on the reality that people will never trust them again. FG will rightfully be exposed for their reckless management of this country and will most likely not make it past the end of 2019 before being relegated to the opposition benches for a very long time. SF will be a vociferous opposition party and will very effectively garner all that public anger and translate it to votes. It won’t be this next election but the one after that where SF will be in power, most likely as a coalition of Social Democrats and Independents. Leotard will be remembered as the worst Taoiseach and Leader of this country ever. Quite the honour to achieve when you consider how pathetic all our previous leaders have been. Things will never be the same in this country. Finally people are starting to realise how much they have been conned and fockked over by the very people who they elected to protect them.

  5. Martco

    oh one more thing @Charger –
    your exhalted view of Britain, its achievements & standing in the world? never ever forget that the wealth that facilitated it, all of that, was on the back of money generated from colonisation, slavery, rape & pillage essentially. stuff to be proud of.

    now then, I at least have accepted my fate…a few pints & an evening with the Stereophonics followed by Killers & Gorillaz…time I got back in there. evening all!

    1. Ollie Cromwell

      There isn’t a major power in the world that hasn’t had an empire.
      But I accept it must be hard to be reminded that an island not much bigger than yours once ruled the entire world at a time when you lot were happy just to marry your first cousin and get an extra spud with your evening gruel.

      1. ReproButina

        There’s a reason the world celebrates St. Patrick’s Day while even the English barely notice St. George’s.

        1. mildred st meadowlark

          That would be our ability to reproduce at an exceptional rate. You have to admit, there are a lot of us scattered around the place.

          We just LOVE the ride.

          1. Ollie Cromwell

            @Bernie
            It’s an echo chamber.
            Brit-bashing good, Irish-bashing less so.
            Toys,pram etc.
            Twas ever thus.

        2. Ollie Cromwell

          The Irish do like a nice Royal Wedding.
          Especially as the Irish equivalent of celebrity is Daniel and Majella.
          ” Ooooh look,they’re building a new conservatory onto their house.Lets make a five-part prime time series on that.The boggers will be transfixed. ”

          This relentless anti Irish stuff from me is getting boring. I better lay off a bit or I’ll get banned.

          1. Bernie

            Ollie, if you haven’t been barred yet, I’d say you’ll be ok. My comments are interfered with, I couldn’t give a flying winky, it’s not like I don’t know who it is, let her carry on, keeps her busy…

          2. Bernie

            @ Ollie

            Don’t stop commenting, people don’t have to respond, I for one, need a good laugh every day.

            @ Yep

            You have to read between the lines, if I say who I think it is, my comments will be given ‘special’ treatment.

  6. Bernie

    SOQ

    Whatever is said on here is not going to change what happens, when the changes are implemented on the back of Brexit.

    Me arguing with you or Ollie or every Tom, Dick and Harry on here is not going to prevent rioting and all the rest of it. Enjoy today, it may be all we have…

    1. SOQ

      The whole purpose of a comment section is to comment, otherwise why have it at all? It doesn’t matter if this clown is what he presents as or is sitting with a penny whistle up his jackside, the objective is the same, to provoke extreme reactions and to shout down moderate views. And it is working because people are leaving.

      We are heading into the biggest crisis of our lifetime, nothing of this scale has ever happened before. The very least we should be able to expect is to have a place where we can collectively interpret the events of the day without some poisonous snake slithering around hijacking threads by goading people.

        1. johnnny

          what area of the oncoming BIGGEST crisis that’s imminent in your mind – would you say you have expertise in ?

          1. SOQ

            I wouldn’t say expertise but conversations to date point to the SME sector in the border counties of Louth, Monaghan and Cavan who are already under pressure because of an 18% drop in income due to sterling. Their main and usually only clients are in the UK and they do not have the resources to diversify into other markets.

            Two particular areas of concern in the above counties would be food produce because of its shelf life and high end engineering products because they will be cheaper from elsewhere, especially with new tariffs. Food more Monaghan / Cavan and engineering more Louth but both a large part of SMEs in the border region.

            And then there is the north of course, a gust of wind would tip the balance up there. Any change in the current arrangements will throw the place into chaos.

          2. johnny

            So you’ve no expertise really in any area, just more stating the bleeding obvious, mixed in with outdated 1980’s gay ‘jokes’ and juvenile sexual suggestions-you’d be a big loss…….

          3. SOQ

            Never said I was an expert honey, at least not in anything I discuss here.

            Broadsheet is it not time you ran anti virus over your member base because you clearly have a bad infection?

      1. Bernie

        SOQ

        A comment section should be open to one and all, we won’t like or agree with some contributions, that’s life, everyone is entitled to post regardless.

        Brexit won’t take, break or own me and it’ll not own you either. Things may/will change and we’ll adjust. Life is constantly altering, it hasn’t killed us yet.

        Spending too much time on a news site is maybe keeping you in a constant state of fear, that’s not a good thing if it’s affecting you to that degree. If I’m not feeling the best or in negative form, I read positive affirmations and humourous stuff on Pinterest, i also watch clips of Peter Kay doing stand-up, his TV show Car Share and episodes of The Blame Game and Frankie Boyle on YouTube, few wee tips from the top ;-)

        1. SOQ

          Of course everyone is entitled to have an opinion, that is the whole point but this is not an opinion, it is a performance, This is nothing to do with the news, this is to do with censorship of opinions. You already said yourself you think this is a troll. Nobody, even John Taylor, could be that pig ignorant.

          It’s up to Broadsheet what they want to do but it is harming their business.

          1. Ollie Cromwell

            Precisely.
            The reality is the snowflakes on here like to dish it out but stamp their feet and scweam and scweam and scweam if the return fire isn’t what they want to hear.
            Unless there’s a bit of virtue being signalled it doesn’t fit with their narrative.
            Pathetic really.

  7. mildred st meadowlark

    Never thought I’d say this, but I actually miss david at this point.

    Come back friend, all is forgiven.

    1. ReproButina

      I don’t know what david said to be worse than Ollie but bizarrely david’s comments are removed but Ollie’s overtly racist bile is not.

      1. bisted

        …er…was it not david that did the racist bile…ollie does the funny parody brit…

      2. Nigel

        Bit of a scorched earth policy there when it comes to David. Did I miss him doing something particularly awful, or is my memory shot?

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