‘The Meeting Won’t Be Announced Until After It’s Over’

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RTÉ reports:

The Vatican has said Pope Francis will meet victims of clerical sexual abuse during his trip to Ireland this weekend.

“The pope is visiting Ireland on 25 and 26 August to attend the Catholic World Meeting of Families in Dublin and will also visit Knock Shrine in Co Mayo.

“Vatican Spokesman Greg Burke told reporters at a briefing today that the meeting with clerical abuse survivors will not be announced until after it is over and that it will be up to the victims if they want to speak afterwards.”

Pope Francis will meet abuse victims during trip to Ireland (RTÉ)

46 thoughts on “‘The Meeting Won’t Be Announced Until After It’s Over’

  1. Ina.

    And all the abuse victims who have turned up for the meeting have been made sign a confidentiality agreement. I hope someone brings a recording device into that meeting.

      1. Ina

        You believe that? Are you that stupid? You don’t think the Catholic Church are going to PR and manage what the survivors say?

          1. Papi

            Defending paedophiles would leave you needing a good belly laugh alright, wouldn’t it? Tough job, I’d say.

          2. Ina.

            The Church is excellent at PR. If this thing’s been happening since at least the foundation of the Irish Free State, and it’s only come out now. And the Church still has a huge following in Ireland, despite the fact that if this happened to any other organization that organization wouldn’t have a building left that wasn’t burned down to the ground.

    1. Daisy Chainsaw

      Will it be like the usual meetings of abuse victims and heirarchy? Alone, surrounded by church representatives, asked if they enjoyed it and then sworn to silence, on pain of hell and damnation?

        1. george

          Maybe not the fire brimstone
          It will be get with the programme and the fact they have met the pope in person
          They can remember the experience
          No accountability

    2. frank

      They will be paid a few bob and matter closed
      The government are up to their eyes with collusion
      Within a month the fuss will be over and its back to normal
      A sad day proving accountability is sadly lacking

  2. frankensteins_lazy_brother

    I hop they all choose to ignore this invite in exactly the same way the church has ignored the abused.

    1. newsjustin

      Would you prefer that people who meet the Pope concerning this topic be paraded for the cameras?

        1. newsjustin

          Yes. They meet the Pope. They say what they want during and after.

          Like what seems to be being suggested.

      1. millie st murderlark

        I’m sure it’s not the case, but it sounds to me like you’re attempting to defend the indefensible, or close to it.

          1. Lush

            While I don’t hold with newsjustin’s views, I find their viewpoint is always presented calmly and objectively.

        1. newsjustin

          I’m talking about abuse survivors meeting the Pope, saying what they want and talking about it afterwards.

          What are you talking about millie?

        2. realPolithicks

          That’s what newjustin does, he is the resident apologist for the catholic church on BS.

          1. Janet, I ate my Avatar

            while I respect all your comments on here, and admire how you are in my opionon wasted on the Catholic church as a decent human, as much as anyone can tell from an avatar,
            it’s misleading to suggest there is a God and / or the church/ religion is a benifical to mankind

          2. Janet, I ate my Avatar

            especially when we witness the horrors across the globe done in any higher powers name

  3. Formerly known as @ireland.com

    The Vatican needs to hand over all of the pedo they have protected, hand over the files they have, hand over the compensation for all the victims. All church controls of schools and hospitals must end.

    1. Starina

      that would literally end the church as we know it. They would lose a large chunk of their clergy and many, many millions in compensation. They then wouldn’t be able to renew their follower numbers as they couldn’t control the narrative in schools. This is why they *don’t* do what they’re supposed to. part self-serving greed, part psychotic “it’s for the greater good” justifications.

      1. Cian

        The Roman Catholic church has never been about god or Jesus. It has always been about power and control. Notice the way that it introduced so many ‘mandatory’ interactions with god (e.g. sacraments) all of which need a priest.
        Confession? no, you can’t talk to God, you must go via his local representative – the priest.
        Marriage? no, no – you can’t just go to the State – you need a priest.
        Baptism? you don’t *have* to baptise your child – but if you don’t he won’t *ever* get into heaven. you know – original sin? Adam & Eve? God hasn’t forgotten (or forgiven). He’ll go to limbo. He’ll go to purgatory. But I happen to have a priest handy that can sprinkle some fairy dust holy water[1]…
        Mass? you need a priest.

        [1] and yes, I do know that you don’t need a priest for baptism – anyone can do it.

        1. Starina

          fun fact: back in the day, Jewish families would have young Catholic girls as au pairs as they could still do work on the Sabbath. The Church taught the girls to how to baptise children, told them it was best for the wee baby’s soul, and then the Church would move in and steal the child from the Jewish family as they were now deemed a “Catholic” child and must go to a good Christian family instead of being raised by heathens.

    2. :-Joe

      The vatican does not care about anybody but themselves, they don’t even keep official records and they leave it to the victims to bring the perpetrators to justice while they wash their hands with it all as soon as any of it becomes a problem.

      Hiding behind a last refuge and a weak legal framework built solely on plausable deniability etc…

      Good luck trying to get a “confession” or any kind of admission of guilt from a culture of sociopathic, invertibrate, fantasists.and their millions of deluded followers.

      :-J

    3. ollie

      Michael Woods needs to explain why he agreed to dump the compensation bill for abuse victims on the taxpayer instead of the church. What was he hiding? Who was he hiding it for? Bertie Ahern and his corrupt buddies?

    1. Daisy Chainsaw

      Well he can’t meet them all as he’s only here for a couple of days. He’d need years in residence to meet all the Irish survivors of catholic church abuse.

      One of his henchmen has probably calculated the bare minimum/absolute maximum amount of time needed to make it look like Frankie gives a fupp.

  4. postmanpat

    The headline should have been: “oh i’m afraid the deflector shield will be quite operational when your friends arrive”

    1. Daisy Chainsaw

      That was the last one, Pope Palpatine… still lurking in the Vatican basement, clinging to life, desperately afraid of Hell for what he knows he did.

  5. Ava

    I was taken to see a so-called healing priest years ago, by a well-meaning in-law (now out-law ) to help me come to terms with my father sexually abusing me. The priest told me that i had to forgive my father or else I would not get to heaven. What fuckery is this?

    1. Andyourpointiswhatexactly?

      So many wrong uns in the priesthood. I keep saying it: people who knew their sons weren’t right (deviants or bollockses––or both) sent them to the priesthood to get them “fixed” where, instead, they flourished.

    2. Andyourpointiswhatexactly?

      ps I’m terribly sorry: what a horrible past you had to suffer (and probably still suffer). x

      1. Ava

        Thanks Andy, it’s definitely a life sentence I have to say. Even applying nappy cream to my own children felt wrong, had to see a counsellor to deal with that. It affects each and every aspect of your life. Thanks for your kindness x.

        1. Daisy Chainsaw

          Ava, for what it’s worth, I wish you peace and contentment and a lovely life with your children. I’m glad you got proper counselling.

          1. Ava

            Thanks very much Daisy x. I admire your unforgiving and rock solid stance on the CC and everything connected to it, what a sick cult they are.

  6. Lush

    So will Frankie accept the resignation of all the Irish bishops, as he did of the 38 Chilean bishops?

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