nice use of exclamatory question on front of daily express
not often seen these days
ReproBertie
Yesterday was “give us a better deal or we tank our economy” but that ultimatum failed so they switch to offering their bill as a bribe. Utterly clueless.
Brother Barnabas
they owe the cash deal or no deal
SB
“The next man that makes a move, the sheriff gets it.” (sic)
edalicious
Very good, SB!!
Dub Spot
“polishing door handles”
(cough)
Cú Chulainn
And being paid handsomely for the pleasure..!! Wasn’t like that in my day…
Ivan Blominosoff
Re Brexit;
The ‘People’s Vote’ campaign/party/whatever is just another branch of the Tories’ non-manifesto.
They will get things moving, as soon as it goes their way. Promise.
This is what happens when you underfund education for decades.
Idiots rise to the top and nobody cares.
BBC Newsnight: Senior Tories are frustrated by how much power Ireland has had in the Brexit negotiations, especially over the backstop, says our political editor Nick Watt.
I think the Tories will be asking that regular Broadsheet question… “Was it for this?” :)
bisted
…perfidious hibernians…
dav
It matches the attitude olli/charger takes to this board – can’t stand our pointing out how a bigoted /racist brexit will wreck his country..
Ollie Cromwell
That’s because it’s not bigoted or racist.
It’s a democratic decision to change the trading policy of the UK.
It may well cause economic problems for Ireland but these will be self-inflicted.
Ireland chose to obstruct negotiations with the insistence on a backstop to prevent a hard border which both the head of Ireland and the UK’s revenue services have said is totally unnecessary.
Immediately after the referendum Varadkar barred Irish civil servants from any discussions with their UK counterparts over technical solutions to the border issue which was deliberately politicised by the EU as part of their negotiating tactics.
Instead of working with its biggest and most important trading partner and ,incidentally, Ireland’s most powerful supporter within the EU to produce a workable solution,Ireland chose to make life as difficult as possible.
Let’s see how many of your new EU bezzies will be prepared to dip their hands in their pockets to help out poor old Paddy when the ordure hits the fan.
You make your own bed,you have to lie in it.
That’s what 1916 was all about mateys.
Brother Barnabas
“…to change the trading policy of the UK”
hop up out of those semen-encusted sheets before your mother comes in, clear the head and think that one again
Ollie Cromwell
Mam and semen-encrusted sheets ?
Your childhood in single sentence.Exactly how many uncles did you have ?
Martco
you’re a three for a fiver version of Alan Partridge @Charger
you have to try a bit harder matey, suggest you stop regurgitating the bile from the DM comments section we can read that stuff on our own if we want. you bore me with it, anyway.
scottser
We will gladly lie in our own beds, all 32 counties of us. Thats what 1916 was about, mayyyte
Ollie Cromwell
You’re welcome to them old cock.
Have you got 10 billion quid a year down the back of your sofa ?
ReproBertie
We’re so welcome to them the UK government is about to fall apart over fighting to keep them.
scottser
You just worry about yourself old fruit, what paddy does in his own back yard will be no concern of yours soon enough.
Heheheh
Formerly known as @ireland.com
” Ireland’s most powerful supporter within the EU” – You are sasamaching, so a lot of good that is going to be.
There is a little treaty called the Good Friday Agreement. It has to be complied with. So, no hard border. The harder the brexit, the more the Englander nationalism and racism grows, the sooner we will have no border of any kind. Thanks, Boris and Nigel.
Eoin
After 18 months of the 300 Tories bending over backwards for the 10 DUP MPs in Westminster, it’s a bit rich for a Tory – grandee or not-so-grandee – to grimace at the power of Ireland in the world’s most powerful trading bloc.
Clampers Outside!
That too
Giggidygoo
But but but… the backstop…..
ReproBertie
You mean the backstop that May is touring the EU begging for some wiggle room on to try and save her career?
GiggidyGoo
But sure isn’t it a backstop- hailed by Varadkar and Co. Bulletproof, legal and all that. Sure what’s to discuss (unless of course it isn’t and therefore doesn’t exist).
ReproBertie
On the contrary, if it didn’t exist they wouldn’t be discussing it.
Eoin
Leo meets Theresa today.
Other than studying her demeanor and appreciating her resilience (and perhaps storing that memory for the future when things mightn’t be so swell for Leo), there’s no value for Leo in the meeting at all. Theresa is a lame-duck prime minister, who may survive the no-confidence vote later but with 30%+ of her parliamentary party against her and no hope of uniting her party, let alone her parliament, she’s just not a credible negotiating partner. So, a day for Leo to soak up some personal lessons, but no more.
ReproBertie
May seems to have learned a lot from Leo and his predecessors about kicking the can down the road. Sadly for her, triggering Article 50 means she’s kicking it down a cul de sac.
Brother Barnabas
ireland and Britain remain close friends – and that relationship will be all the more important once britain leaves the EU. it’s entirely right for varadkar to meet her and for Ireland to do whatever we can to assist Britain – so long as it’s not contrary to our own fundamental interests
wouldn’t agree that May is “lame duck”. the problem isn’t May, her policies or her leadership – it’s the clusterphuck of a mess that Britain has put itself in. changing PM won’t change that.
Spaghetti Hoop
May cancelled.
I had a manager once that had big ideas at an off-site and set up meetings, webinars and training sessions with the view to improvements and transparency within her department. She was all ‘this is what we’re gonna do’. Then, as the weeks passed she gradually cancelled the appointments and reduced the length and scope of the training. What started as a wonderful tide of change dropped to a mere ripple on a pond. Everyone lost respect in her and she lost her job.
The End.
Ollie Cromwell
Cool story bro.
Spaghetti Hoop
I’m not your ‘bro’.
And the story depicts May’s management style.
Ollie Cromwell
She cancelled because as well as PMQs this lunchtime she has a meeting with the 1922 committee of MPs at 5pm and then a confidence vote between 6-8pm.
Kind of a busy schedule in which to fit in a flight to Dublin and back wouldn’t you agree ?
Spaghetti Hoop
Precisely. Indicates a ditherer and one more concerned with saving her career than acting on behalf of her electorate. I know bad leadership when I see it. Whatever about the complexities of striking an exit deal, the British people deserve commitment and unwaivering navigation from their PM. A key management skill is execution of the objective.
Brother Barnabas
perhaps they’ll facetime
Papi
She cancelled “cos she’s a bit busy”?
Oh, charger, even for you, that’s weak.
Ollie Cromwell
I see Europe is a sea of stability today.
—Leader facing no confidence vote, UK
—Gov. facing no confidence vote, France
—Gov. facing no confidence vote, Poland
—Gov. could fall at any minute, Belgium
—Parliament in disarray, Hungary
—Fighting potentially ramping up, Ukraine
Nigel
Brave Sir Ollie ran away
Bravely ran away away
When things got tricky on the continent
Sir Ollie ran like liquid incontinent.
Ollie Cromwell
Compliments of the season to all my loyal Irish readers.
70% state-owned AIB is lining up €3.4 billion of loans to be sold to vultures at the start of 2019. The security on these loans includes residential property.
Cian
‘vultures’? can you define what you mean by ‘vultures’ please?
Eoin
A fair question Cian especially as some appear to be throwing the term around much like they did with “witch!” in that episode of Blackadder.
A “vulture” would be a non-traditional lender who has no long term lending or banking interest with the borrower whose loans they acquire. A “vulture” is typically looking for an exit in 3-5 years. A “vulture” has an ambition to generate a return (typically, IRR of 15%+) far in excess of the ambitions of a traditional lender (IRR of perhaps 3%). A “vulture” employs practices which are oftentimes unsavory, ruthless, dispassionate and unconcerned with any reputation or place within a community or society.
Cian
Thanks. Would you consider Allianz a ‘vulture’?
Or ‘PIMCO’ (wholly owned by Allianz) a ‘vulture’?
Cian
The Irish market is dysfunctional.
There are 21,000 buy-to-let mortgages in arrears. We are at peak rental prices – there is no way a landlord could be losing money – and there are 21,000 landlords not paying their mortgages. These are either:
a) empty properties
b) have paying tenants – but the landlord is keeping (stealing) the money
This is crazy. There is no reason that these 21,000 houses shouldn’t be repossessed. And if the banks won’t do it – let them sell the mortgages, and let someone else do it.
Brother Barnabas
“have paying tenants – but the landlord is keeping (stealing) the money”
there’s no legal or other inter-connection between a property owner’s entitlement to receive rent and his obligation to make repayments on the mortgage
Cian
In 2010, when rents were low and there were many empty tenancies, a landlord may not have paid the mortgage because they simply didn’t have the money.
Today, rents are high, vacancies are low, but there are 21,000 landlords getting rent but not paying the banks. They have the money, but are choosing not to pay the banks. In my book that is stealing.
I don’t know about the legal aspects (I suspect ‘stealing’ isn’t a legal term) but it is worse now than in 2010 when the landlords simply didn’t have the money.
Brother Barnabas
stealing from whom?
they’re not stealing from the tenants because the tenants are getting precisely what they’re paying for
they’re not stealing from the banks because ultimately the banks will get paid – whether later with added interest or through repossession (and we’re talking about BtL properties so repossession isn’t that onerous)
as an aside, the main reason by far that5 landlord give when it eventually reaches court for not paying the mortgage is that their tenants aren’t paying the rent – i’d bet a good whack of the 21,000 non-performing BtL loans are i this situation. and that’s also why many of these aren’t repossessed – because lenders know they’ll have even less chance getting court sanction to enforce the eviction notice.
Cian
@BB
I don’t believe that. The RTB deal with non-payment of rent and they had ‘only’ 1500 Rent arrears (+ Rent arrears and overholding) disputes in 2017.
johnny
You don’t have a clue Bro-just making stuff up-have you never heard of a Rent Receiver from your barstool ?
If BTL landlords are receiving rent and not paying the lender, its pretty simple-the lender appoints a rent receiver as is the case in…
“During the second quarter of 2018, rent receivers were appointed to 802 BTL accounts, bringing the stock of accounts with rent receivers appointed to 5,915; this is down from 5,935 accounts in the previous quarter”-link below.
WTF you trying say here-what’s a ‘aside’ is that like an anecdote,there’s reams data available-or is it based on a hunch-FFS.
“as an aside, the main reason by far that5 landlord give when it eventually reaches court for not paying the mortgage is that their tenants aren’t paying the rent – i’d bet a good whack of the 21,000 non-performing BtL loans are i this situation. and that’s also why many of these aren’t repossessed – because lenders know they’ll have even less chance getting court sanction to enforce the eviction notice.”
Not sure with all the grammatically errors, typos and jumbled words/phrases what exactly you are trying say,is it regarding repossessions and BLT’s-but have another go, try some punctuation and smaller words stoopid.
Facts huh-who needs them on a barstool with a bunch oul fellas.
“There were 1,766 BTL properties in the banks’ possession at the beginning of Q2 2018. A total of 98 properties were taken into possession by lenders during the quarter. Of the total BTL repossessions in the quarter, 25 were repossessed on foot of a Court Order, while the remaining 73 were voluntarily surrendered or abandoned.”
I’m only warming up here Bro-I make it simple for you,stay in your lane I stay in mine,got it-duh!
“Not sure with all the grammatically errors, typos and jumbled words/phrases what exactly you are trying say,is it regarding repossessions and BLT’s-but have another go, try some punctuation and smaller words stoopid.”
amazing
what’s a “grammatically errors”?
and what’s a “BLT”? it’s a sandwich, right?
johnny, you’re a fool
johnny
C’mon Bro-engage on BTL’s you appear to be such an expert ,LOL-always playing the man or normally a woman that you prey on with feeble attempts at overly sexualized humor,when it’s simply harassment ,don’t forget the ball that you played so well.
Any more insights into the BTL non rent paying situation,or repos-you had your chance, now buckle up Bro,its going get bumpy around here for you.
Thanks for your insights on BTL’s and ‘asides’-haha!
Brother Barnabas
i couldn’t be bothered with you, johnny
you’re too dull
johnny
So far your response upon been exposed as a spoofer and so stoopip, is to call ME a fool and dull, lets discuss your half baked theory that landlords are keeping the rent and not paying lenders-any data/stats to back up that ludicrous claim-Paddy in the pub is hardly a credible source now Bro!
Anything to back up your ‘aside’s’ that landlords in court are claiming non payment by tenants,its a major contribution factor in arrears and repo’s right-did you overhear that while ordering another pint ?
Told you last time stay out the crosshairs or I will bring it Bro !
Brother Barnabas
comes full circle (again) to your comprehension problems, johnny
I never said landlords were collecting rent and not paying mortgages
you show again and again that you simple don’t understand things you read – rotide has pointed this out repeatedly, yet you continue to humiliate yourself.
a self-flagellating simpleton with notions
Starina
confidence vote at 6pm today. looking forward to the sasamach carnage.
Eoin
Interesting twist in the INM saga – the knives are out for the good guy, the whistleblower and former CEO Robert Pitt. Saint Robert’s protected disclosures to the corporate watchdog brought inspectors into INM in the first place. Now, an IT consultant (who is close to former chairman, Leslie Buckley) is saying Saint Robert himself was behind hacking journalists’ records.
Shane Phelan at the Independent (one of INM’s main newspapers) reports
“According to an IT consultant, Mr Doorly’s predecessor as chief executive, Robert Pitt, ordered a search of hard drives and emails of up to six editors after details of a memo from his personal assistant was published in ‘The Phoenix’ magazine.
Mr Pitt has declined to comment on the data interrogation claims, outlined in a letter sent by IT consultant Derek Mizak to the Data Protection Commissioner (DPC).
Mr Mizak claims he was asked by Mr Pitt to conduct the exercise in June 2015.
He has alleged it was conducted at night, with hard drives reportedly being removed and data copied, before the hard drives were returned.
This was allegedly done without the knowledge of the staff members involved.
“It is an allegation at the moment. I hate to think that a CEO would have done this,” Mr Doorly said.”
Eoin
Oh no! The second “malcontent” (as Denis O’Brien called him and Robert Pitt in a text message to Leslie Buckley in 2015), INM’s chief finance officer, Ryan Preston, is reportedly on the way out.
I just need to take issue with a couple of statements.
1. It’s a democratic decision to change the trading policy of the UK
So true, I mean all those discussions and campaigns that were just about trade. I guess the Vote Leave site (still there) that only mentions trade once is irrelevant. All that talk about immigration, Turkey, NHS, more immigrants, EU Laws, sovereignty, few more immigrants for good measure, on there is code for trade (that they only mention once).
2. Ireland chose to obstruct negotiations with the insistence on a backstop.
Nah. Not even remotely. I understand that in order to exist in a world of trolling you need to be liberal with the truth and recollection of the truth, but this is on a level of a shaken etcha-sketch memory reversal. The date was 19 June 2017, around 19:00. David Davis’s first day on the job. His big moment. Britain has all the cards (according to him). Fast forward and:
“Britain has abandoned attempts to force the EU to start talks on a future trade deal immediately, and instead the UK’s “exit bill”, and other issues, will come first”
They even agreed to it in writing: https://ec.europa.eu/commission/sites/beta-political/files/eu-uk-art-50-terms-reference_agreed_amends_en.pdf
Ireland didn’t do anything. Ireland wasn’t even there at this stage, David Davis completely backed down and said that Britain would discuss trade until the divorce was settled. Damned Irish, walking into a meeting thinking they own the place before capitulating within hours and giving in on every single point. The Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys have new competition.
Pretty everything you then go on to say is wrong. Britain agreed to no trade discussion. Why the focus on the border? Ignoring the obvious sensitivities, it may be because of this statement:
“As the Northern Ireland Secretary has made clear, the common travel area that has existed since the creation of an independent Irish state will not be affected. There will be no change to the border between Northern Ireland and the Republic.” A joint statement by Michael Gove, Boris Johnson, Priti Patel, and Gisela Stuart.
So again, it was a promise of the campaign and after. No Change. That’s a pretty specific statement. That’s not, “workable solution” that’s 100% as it is. Add to that the capitulation by Davis and that there can be NO DISCUSSIONS ON TRADE until the divorce has been agreed, you might need to refocus your blatant disregard of reality to the focal point of incompetence and general poohousery that is the people you are trying to defend.
Ollie Cromwell
The UK wishes to have control of its country.
Ireland is prepared to be a supplicant of a German-dominated EU.
That’s the essential difference.
Brother Barnabas
The UK wishes to have control of its country. Ireland is more than happy for the UK to do whatever it chooses, yet politely insists that it honour a prior agreement. The UK gets its knickers in a twist about that.
Listrade
*England and Wales wishes to have control of their own country.
The essential difference is that you keep making things up to avoid the reality of what is happening. You could have responded to the points and countered them, but you just spew out anything that you feel might help you save face.
Ollie Cromwell
17.4 million voters,a clear majority,voted to take back control of the UK’s borders,trade and money.
Unlike Ireland,who fell at the first hurdle – actually the threw themselves at the feet of the EU rather than fall – it won’t be reversed.
Formerly known as @ireland.com
A clear majority of Ireland voted for Sinn Fein in 1918. Yet, your democracy loving government came up with a great idea of partitioning the country. How is that working out for everyone?
topsy
Ollie, the Brits will bend over sooner rather than later.
Cú Chulainn
You’re such good fun m8.. anything else interesting in the Sun..?
Martco
Charger peers out from under his rock
Sadly realising we don’t buy his old cock
What ticks at his core?
Ze Germans von de vawr
And his empire is dying, tick-tock :(
Ollie Cromwell
Actually historians generally agree that the British Empire ended in 1997 with the transfer of Hong Kong to China leaving fourteen overseas territories remaining under British sovereignty.
The level of ignorance about history on this site is a testament to the dreadful state of Irish secondary education and goes a long way to understanding why Irish universities continue to plummet down the world index at an alarming rate.
ReproBertie
I’ll see your “dreadful state of Irish secondary education” and raise you a British Minister not knowing that Britain is an island.
Ollie Cromwell
I’ll see your British Minister and raise you with the Healey-Raes.
Ireland’s very own Kennedy dynasty.
Brother Barnabas
what ministership do the healey-raes hold?
ah, ok… you’re not having a great morning, are you
ReproBertie
I’ll see your Healy Rae’s and raise you a PM locked in her car.
Ollie Cromwell
A German car.
Varadkar would be in the boot.
ReproBertie
If you want to use the car to describe the current situation then Leo’s in the driving seat, May’s in the back and the backstop is the child locks.
Vroom vroom, beep beep! Off to the vet we go!
Ollie Cromwell
Well it wouldn’t be an Irish car because of course Ireland doesn’t make cars.
Actually it doesn’t manufacture much at all.
Therein lies this countries biggest problem.
It relies heavily on imports,mainly from the UK and exports mainly via the UK.
Leo is not so much in the driving seat as hitch-hiking at the side of the road.
Nigel
Yeah Brexit is still a chaotic mess and the UK has underperformed abysmally at the negotiating table. Negging Ireland may make you feel better and reinforce your sense of racial superiority, but it ain’t going to change nothing.
Formerly known as @ireland.com
I thought the British talked about WWI and WWII so that they wouldn’t have to talk about murdering and pillaging their way around the world, picking off territories with weaker armies.
Cú Chulainn
Thankfully we have your wonderful knowledge to call upon in our hour of need.. where would we be without you.. m8
Ollie Cromwell
Well I was hoping today might bring about a more intelligent discussion than the usual Bennies going on about the war,empire etc etc.
But apparently not.
It’s the same old http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuI23zCudKY
Listrade
Really? Then why did you bring up 1916 at 8:28? Was that your way of intelligent discussion?
You’re right it is the same old. You present a Mr Whippy of effluvia and insert the Empire or “paddy” as a turd flake, then try and claim the high ground and gaslight everyone that this has always been your position, that it is a 99er and we’re being unreasonable and deluded for pointing out you are just handing out steaming turds of nonsense.
ReproBertie
Sorry, I missed your hopes for a more intelligent discussion over the sound of the supplicant Paddy throwing themselves at the feet of a German-dominated EU.
Physician heal thyself.
Ollie Cromwell
Not a bad morning’s work by the Ollster.
Just a few well-informed posts on my part and the same old suspects are working themselves up into a spittle-flecked frenzy like hamsters on a treadmill going round and round in circles and getting nowhere.
It is an utter joy to watch.
And there are months if not years more of this to come.
Marvellous.
Nigel
Thanks for being our chew-toy.
ReproBertie
More pigeon chess victories.
No wonder you think Sasamach is going well.
Spaghetti Hoop
I don’t actually mind correcting you on your history – it’s like being on Eggheads. Keep it coming.
Anyway,my prediction for what it’s worth.
May to tell 1922 committee she’ll go after March 29th 2019 – this will give her enough votes to win the confidence motion but she’ll be mortally wounded and depending on the size of the opposition to her in the party she could be gone by Christmas.
MPs to vote down the Withdrawal Agreement in the New Year by a significant majority.
After that,it’s anyone’s guess.
Dub Spot
A UK Ambassador to Ireland writes:
Priti Patel’s boorish Brexit comments showed ignorance about Ireland. She’s not alone
nice use of exclamatory question on front of daily express
not often seen these days
Yesterday was “give us a better deal or we tank our economy” but that ultimatum failed so they switch to offering their bill as a bribe. Utterly clueless.
they owe the cash deal or no deal
“The next man that makes a move, the sheriff gets it.” (sic)
Very good, SB!!
“polishing door handles”
(cough)
And being paid handsomely for the pleasure..!! Wasn’t like that in my day…
Re Brexit;
The ‘People’s Vote’ campaign/party/whatever is just another branch of the Tories’ non-manifesto.
They will get things moving, as soon as it goes their way. Promise.
This is what happens when you underfund education for decades.
Idiots rise to the top and nobody cares.
I hope it never happens here… oh wait…
https://twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/status/1072520557403537408
BBC Newsnight: Senior Tories are frustrated by how much power Ireland has had in the Brexit negotiations, especially over the backstop, says our political editor Nick Watt.
“The Irish really should know their place,” one said
https://bbc.in/2RLstJK
I think the Tories will be asking that regular Broadsheet question… “Was it for this?” :)
BBC Newsnight: Senior Tories are frustrated by how much power Ireland has had in the Brexit negotiations, especially over the backstop, says our political editor Nick Watt.
“The Irish really should know their place,” one said
https://bbc.in/2RLstJK
I think the Tories will be asking that regular Broadsheet question… “Was it for this?” :)
…perfidious hibernians…
It matches the attitude olli/charger takes to this board – can’t stand our pointing out how a bigoted /racist brexit will wreck his country..
That’s because it’s not bigoted or racist.
It’s a democratic decision to change the trading policy of the UK.
It may well cause economic problems for Ireland but these will be self-inflicted.
Ireland chose to obstruct negotiations with the insistence on a backstop to prevent a hard border which both the head of Ireland and the UK’s revenue services have said is totally unnecessary.
Immediately after the referendum Varadkar barred Irish civil servants from any discussions with their UK counterparts over technical solutions to the border issue which was deliberately politicised by the EU as part of their negotiating tactics.
Instead of working with its biggest and most important trading partner and ,incidentally, Ireland’s most powerful supporter within the EU to produce a workable solution,Ireland chose to make life as difficult as possible.
Let’s see how many of your new EU bezzies will be prepared to dip their hands in their pockets to help out poor old Paddy when the ordure hits the fan.
You make your own bed,you have to lie in it.
That’s what 1916 was all about mateys.
“…to change the trading policy of the UK”
hop up out of those semen-encusted sheets before your mother comes in, clear the head and think that one again
Mam and semen-encrusted sheets ?
Your childhood in single sentence.Exactly how many uncles did you have ?
you’re a three for a fiver version of Alan Partridge @Charger
you have to try a bit harder matey, suggest you stop regurgitating the bile from the DM comments section we can read that stuff on our own if we want. you bore me with it, anyway.
We will gladly lie in our own beds, all 32 counties of us. Thats what 1916 was about, mayyyte
You’re welcome to them old cock.
Have you got 10 billion quid a year down the back of your sofa ?
We’re so welcome to them the UK government is about to fall apart over fighting to keep them.
You just worry about yourself old fruit, what paddy does in his own back yard will be no concern of yours soon enough.
Heheheh
” Ireland’s most powerful supporter within the EU” – You are sasamaching, so a lot of good that is going to be.
There is a little treaty called the Good Friday Agreement. It has to be complied with. So, no hard border. The harder the brexit, the more the Englander nationalism and racism grows, the sooner we will have no border of any kind. Thanks, Boris and Nigel.
After 18 months of the 300 Tories bending over backwards for the 10 DUP MPs in Westminster, it’s a bit rich for a Tory – grandee or not-so-grandee – to grimace at the power of Ireland in the world’s most powerful trading bloc.
That too
But but but… the backstop…..
You mean the backstop that May is touring the EU begging for some wiggle room on to try and save her career?
But sure isn’t it a backstop- hailed by Varadkar and Co. Bulletproof, legal and all that. Sure what’s to discuss (unless of course it isn’t and therefore doesn’t exist).
On the contrary, if it didn’t exist they wouldn’t be discussing it.
Leo meets Theresa today.
Other than studying her demeanor and appreciating her resilience (and perhaps storing that memory for the future when things mightn’t be so swell for Leo), there’s no value for Leo in the meeting at all. Theresa is a lame-duck prime minister, who may survive the no-confidence vote later but with 30%+ of her parliamentary party against her and no hope of uniting her party, let alone her parliament, she’s just not a credible negotiating partner. So, a day for Leo to soak up some personal lessons, but no more.
May seems to have learned a lot from Leo and his predecessors about kicking the can down the road. Sadly for her, triggering Article 50 means she’s kicking it down a cul de sac.
ireland and Britain remain close friends – and that relationship will be all the more important once britain leaves the EU. it’s entirely right for varadkar to meet her and for Ireland to do whatever we can to assist Britain – so long as it’s not contrary to our own fundamental interests
wouldn’t agree that May is “lame duck”. the problem isn’t May, her policies or her leadership – it’s the clusterphuck of a mess that Britain has put itself in. changing PM won’t change that.
May cancelled.
I had a manager once that had big ideas at an off-site and set up meetings, webinars and training sessions with the view to improvements and transparency within her department. She was all ‘this is what we’re gonna do’. Then, as the weeks passed she gradually cancelled the appointments and reduced the length and scope of the training. What started as a wonderful tide of change dropped to a mere ripple on a pond. Everyone lost respect in her and she lost her job.
The End.
Cool story bro.
I’m not your ‘bro’.
And the story depicts May’s management style.
She cancelled because as well as PMQs this lunchtime she has a meeting with the 1922 committee of MPs at 5pm and then a confidence vote between 6-8pm.
Kind of a busy schedule in which to fit in a flight to Dublin and back wouldn’t you agree ?
Precisely. Indicates a ditherer and one more concerned with saving her career than acting on behalf of her electorate. I know bad leadership when I see it. Whatever about the complexities of striking an exit deal, the British people deserve commitment and unwaivering navigation from their PM. A key management skill is execution of the objective.
perhaps they’ll facetime
She cancelled “cos she’s a bit busy”?
Oh, charger, even for you, that’s weak.
I see Europe is a sea of stability today.
—Leader facing no confidence vote, UK
—Gov. facing no confidence vote, France
—Gov. facing no confidence vote, Poland
—Gov. could fall at any minute, Belgium
—Parliament in disarray, Hungary
—Fighting potentially ramping up, Ukraine
Brave Sir Ollie ran away
Bravely ran away away
When things got tricky on the continent
Sir Ollie ran like liquid incontinent.
Compliments of the season to all my loyal Irish readers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbRydk4NVYc
dwarfed by the shambles in London
FAIL
70% state-owned AIB is lining up €3.4 billion of loans to be sold to vultures at the start of 2019. The security on these loans includes residential property.
‘vultures’? can you define what you mean by ‘vultures’ please?
A fair question Cian especially as some appear to be throwing the term around much like they did with “witch!” in that episode of Blackadder.
A “vulture” would be a non-traditional lender who has no long term lending or banking interest with the borrower whose loans they acquire. A “vulture” is typically looking for an exit in 3-5 years. A “vulture” has an ambition to generate a return (typically, IRR of 15%+) far in excess of the ambitions of a traditional lender (IRR of perhaps 3%). A “vulture” employs practices which are oftentimes unsavory, ruthless, dispassionate and unconcerned with any reputation or place within a community or society.
Thanks. Would you consider Allianz a ‘vulture’?
Or ‘PIMCO’ (wholly owned by Allianz) a ‘vulture’?
The Irish market is dysfunctional.
There are 21,000 buy-to-let mortgages in arrears. We are at peak rental prices – there is no way a landlord could be losing money – and there are 21,000 landlords not paying their mortgages. These are either:
a) empty properties
b) have paying tenants – but the landlord is keeping (stealing) the money
This is crazy. There is no reason that these 21,000 houses shouldn’t be repossessed. And if the banks won’t do it – let them sell the mortgages, and let someone else do it.
“have paying tenants – but the landlord is keeping (stealing) the money”
there’s no legal or other inter-connection between a property owner’s entitlement to receive rent and his obligation to make repayments on the mortgage
In 2010, when rents were low and there were many empty tenancies, a landlord may not have paid the mortgage because they simply didn’t have the money.
Today, rents are high, vacancies are low, but there are 21,000 landlords getting rent but not paying the banks. They have the money, but are choosing not to pay the banks. In my book that is stealing.
I don’t know about the legal aspects (I suspect ‘stealing’ isn’t a legal term) but it is worse now than in 2010 when the landlords simply didn’t have the money.
stealing from whom?
they’re not stealing from the tenants because the tenants are getting precisely what they’re paying for
they’re not stealing from the banks because ultimately the banks will get paid – whether later with added interest or through repossession (and we’re talking about BtL properties so repossession isn’t that onerous)
as an aside, the main reason by far that5 landlord give when it eventually reaches court for not paying the mortgage is that their tenants aren’t paying the rent – i’d bet a good whack of the 21,000 non-performing BtL loans are i this situation. and that’s also why many of these aren’t repossessed – because lenders know they’ll have even less chance getting court sanction to enforce the eviction notice.
@BB
I don’t believe that. The RTB deal with non-payment of rent and they had ‘only’ 1500 Rent arrears (+ Rent arrears and overholding) disputes in 2017.
You don’t have a clue Bro-just making stuff up-have you never heard of a Rent Receiver from your barstool ?
If BTL landlords are receiving rent and not paying the lender, its pretty simple-the lender appoints a rent receiver as is the case in…
“During the second quarter of 2018, rent receivers were appointed to 802 BTL accounts, bringing the stock of accounts with rent receivers appointed to 5,915; this is down from 5,935 accounts in the previous quarter”-link below.
WTF you trying say here-what’s a ‘aside’ is that like an anecdote,there’s reams data available-or is it based on a hunch-FFS.
“as an aside, the main reason by far that5 landlord give when it eventually reaches court for not paying the mortgage is that their tenants aren’t paying the rent – i’d bet a good whack of the 21,000 non-performing BtL loans are i this situation. and that’s also why many of these aren’t repossessed – because lenders know they’ll have even less chance getting court sanction to enforce the eviction notice.”
Not sure with all the grammatically errors, typos and jumbled words/phrases what exactly you are trying say,is it regarding repossessions and BLT’s-but have another go, try some punctuation and smaller words stoopid.
Facts huh-who needs them on a barstool with a bunch oul fellas.
“There were 1,766 BTL properties in the banks’ possession at the beginning of Q2 2018. A total of 98 properties were taken into possession by lenders during the quarter. Of the total BTL repossessions in the quarter, 25 were repossessed on foot of a Court Order, while the remaining 73 were voluntarily surrendered or abandoned.”
I’m only warming up here Bro-I make it simple for you,stay in your lane I stay in mine,got it-duh!
https://www.centralbank.ie/docs/default-source/statistics/data-and-analysis/credit-and-banking-statistics/mortgage-arrears/2018q2_ie_mortgage_arrears_statistics.pdf?sfvrsn=6
“Not sure with all the grammatically errors, typos and jumbled words/phrases what exactly you are trying say,is it regarding repossessions and BLT’s-but have another go, try some punctuation and smaller words stoopid.”
amazing
what’s a “grammatically errors”?
and what’s a “BLT”? it’s a sandwich, right?
johnny, you’re a fool
C’mon Bro-engage on BTL’s you appear to be such an expert ,LOL-always playing the man or normally a woman that you prey on with feeble attempts at overly sexualized humor,when it’s simply harassment ,don’t forget the ball that you played so well.
Any more insights into the BTL non rent paying situation,or repos-you had your chance, now buckle up Bro,its going get bumpy around here for you.
Thanks for your insights on BTL’s and ‘asides’-haha!
i couldn’t be bothered with you, johnny
you’re too dull
So far your response upon been exposed as a spoofer and so stoopip, is to call ME a fool and dull, lets discuss your half baked theory that landlords are keeping the rent and not paying lenders-any data/stats to back up that ludicrous claim-Paddy in the pub is hardly a credible source now Bro!
Anything to back up your ‘aside’s’ that landlords in court are claiming non payment by tenants,its a major contribution factor in arrears and repo’s right-did you overhear that while ordering another pint ?
Told you last time stay out the crosshairs or I will bring it Bro !
comes full circle (again) to your comprehension problems, johnny
I never said landlords were collecting rent and not paying mortgages
you show again and again that you simple don’t understand things you read – rotide has pointed this out repeatedly, yet you continue to humiliate yourself.
a self-flagellating simpleton with notions
confidence vote at 6pm today. looking forward to the sasamach carnage.
Interesting twist in the INM saga – the knives are out for the good guy, the whistleblower and former CEO Robert Pitt. Saint Robert’s protected disclosures to the corporate watchdog brought inspectors into INM in the first place. Now, an IT consultant (who is close to former chairman, Leslie Buckley) is saying Saint Robert himself was behind hacking journalists’ records.
Shane Phelan at the Independent (one of INM’s main newspapers) reports
“According to an IT consultant, Mr Doorly’s predecessor as chief executive, Robert Pitt, ordered a search of hard drives and emails of up to six editors after details of a memo from his personal assistant was published in ‘The Phoenix’ magazine.
Mr Pitt has declined to comment on the data interrogation claims, outlined in a letter sent by IT consultant Derek Mizak to the Data Protection Commissioner (DPC).
Mr Mizak claims he was asked by Mr Pitt to conduct the exercise in June 2015.
He has alleged it was conducted at night, with hard drives reportedly being removed and data copied, before the hard drives were returned.
This was allegedly done without the knowledge of the staff members involved.
“It is an allegation at the moment. I hate to think that a CEO would have done this,” Mr Doorly said.”
Oh no! The second “malcontent” (as Denis O’Brien called him and Robert Pitt in a text message to Leslie Buckley in 2015), INM’s chief finance officer, Ryan Preston, is reportedly on the way out.
http://www.irishtimes.com/business/media-and-marketing/inm-finance-chief-ryan-preston-in-talks-on-future-role-1.3728686
In 2015, Denis O’Brien said in that same text message “ultimately we have to get them out and pay them”
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/media-and-marketing/leslie-this-storm-will-pass-denis-the-inm-controversy-1.3460850
I just need to take issue with a couple of statements.
1. It’s a democratic decision to change the trading policy of the UK
So true, I mean all those discussions and campaigns that were just about trade. I guess the Vote Leave site (still there) that only mentions trade once is irrelevant. All that talk about immigration, Turkey, NHS, more immigrants, EU Laws, sovereignty, few more immigrants for good measure, on there is code for trade (that they only mention once).
2. Ireland chose to obstruct negotiations with the insistence on a backstop.
Nah. Not even remotely. I understand that in order to exist in a world of trolling you need to be liberal with the truth and recollection of the truth, but this is on a level of a shaken etcha-sketch memory reversal. The date was 19 June 2017, around 19:00. David Davis’s first day on the job. His big moment. Britain has all the cards (according to him). Fast forward and:
“Britain has abandoned attempts to force the EU to start talks on a future trade deal immediately, and instead the UK’s “exit bill”, and other issues, will come first”
They even agreed to it in writing: https://ec.europa.eu/commission/sites/beta-political/files/eu-uk-art-50-terms-reference_agreed_amends_en.pdf
Ireland didn’t do anything. Ireland wasn’t even there at this stage, David Davis completely backed down and said that Britain would discuss trade until the divorce was settled. Damned Irish, walking into a meeting thinking they own the place before capitulating within hours and giving in on every single point. The Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys have new competition.
Pretty everything you then go on to say is wrong. Britain agreed to no trade discussion. Why the focus on the border? Ignoring the obvious sensitivities, it may be because of this statement:
“As the Northern Ireland Secretary has made clear, the common travel area that has existed since the creation of an independent Irish state will not be affected. There will be no change to the border between Northern Ireland and the Republic.” A joint statement by Michael Gove, Boris Johnson, Priti Patel, and Gisela Stuart.
So again, it was a promise of the campaign and after. No Change. That’s a pretty specific statement. That’s not, “workable solution” that’s 100% as it is. Add to that the capitulation by Davis and that there can be NO DISCUSSIONS ON TRADE until the divorce has been agreed, you might need to refocus your blatant disregard of reality to the focal point of incompetence and general poohousery that is the people you are trying to defend.
The UK wishes to have control of its country.
Ireland is prepared to be a supplicant of a German-dominated EU.
That’s the essential difference.
The UK wishes to have control of its country. Ireland is more than happy for the UK to do whatever it chooses, yet politely insists that it honour a prior agreement. The UK gets its knickers in a twist about that.
*England and Wales wishes to have control of their own country.
The essential difference is that you keep making things up to avoid the reality of what is happening. You could have responded to the points and countered them, but you just spew out anything that you feel might help you save face.
17.4 million voters,a clear majority,voted to take back control of the UK’s borders,trade and money.
Unlike Ireland,who fell at the first hurdle – actually the threw themselves at the feet of the EU rather than fall – it won’t be reversed.
A clear majority of Ireland voted for Sinn Fein in 1918. Yet, your democracy loving government came up with a great idea of partitioning the country. How is that working out for everyone?
Ollie, the Brits will bend over sooner rather than later.
You’re such good fun m8.. anything else interesting in the Sun..?
Charger peers out from under his rock
Sadly realising we don’t buy his old cock
What ticks at his core?
Ze Germans von de vawr
And his empire is dying, tick-tock :(
Actually historians generally agree that the British Empire ended in 1997 with the transfer of Hong Kong to China leaving fourteen overseas territories remaining under British sovereignty.
The level of ignorance about history on this site is a testament to the dreadful state of Irish secondary education and goes a long way to understanding why Irish universities continue to plummet down the world index at an alarming rate.
I’ll see your “dreadful state of Irish secondary education” and raise you a British Minister not knowing that Britain is an island.
I’ll see your British Minister and raise you with the Healey-Raes.
Ireland’s very own Kennedy dynasty.
what ministership do the healey-raes hold?
ah, ok… you’re not having a great morning, are you
I’ll see your Healy Rae’s and raise you a PM locked in her car.
A German car.
Varadkar would be in the boot.
If you want to use the car to describe the current situation then Leo’s in the driving seat, May’s in the back and the backstop is the child locks.
Vroom vroom, beep beep! Off to the vet we go!
Well it wouldn’t be an Irish car because of course Ireland doesn’t make cars.
Actually it doesn’t manufacture much at all.
Therein lies this countries biggest problem.
It relies heavily on imports,mainly from the UK and exports mainly via the UK.
Leo is not so much in the driving seat as hitch-hiking at the side of the road.
Yeah Brexit is still a chaotic mess and the UK has underperformed abysmally at the negotiating table. Negging Ireland may make you feel better and reinforce your sense of racial superiority, but it ain’t going to change nothing.
I thought the British talked about WWI and WWII so that they wouldn’t have to talk about murdering and pillaging their way around the world, picking off territories with weaker armies.
Thankfully we have your wonderful knowledge to call upon in our hour of need.. where would we be without you.. m8
Well I was hoping today might bring about a more intelligent discussion than the usual Bennies going on about the war,empire etc etc.
But apparently not.
It’s the same old http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuI23zCudKY
Really? Then why did you bring up 1916 at 8:28? Was that your way of intelligent discussion?
https://www.broadsheet.ie/2018/12/11/de-wednesday-papers-296/#comment-2043815
You’re right it is the same old. You present a Mr Whippy of effluvia and insert the Empire or “paddy” as a turd flake, then try and claim the high ground and gaslight everyone that this has always been your position, that it is a 99er and we’re being unreasonable and deluded for pointing out you are just handing out steaming turds of nonsense.
Sorry, I missed your hopes for a more intelligent discussion over the sound of the supplicant Paddy throwing themselves at the feet of a German-dominated EU.
Physician heal thyself.
Not a bad morning’s work by the Ollster.
Just a few well-informed posts on my part and the same old suspects are working themselves up into a spittle-flecked frenzy like hamsters on a treadmill going round and round in circles and getting nowhere.
It is an utter joy to watch.
And there are months if not years more of this to come.
Marvellous.
Thanks for being our chew-toy.
More pigeon chess victories.
No wonder you think Sasamach is going well.
I don’t actually mind correcting you on your history – it’s like being on Eggheads. Keep it coming.
Broadsheet this morning.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv6EQU_2gMI
Anyway,my prediction for what it’s worth.
May to tell 1922 committee she’ll go after March 29th 2019 – this will give her enough votes to win the confidence motion but she’ll be mortally wounded and depending on the size of the opposition to her in the party she could be gone by Christmas.
MPs to vote down the Withdrawal Agreement in the New Year by a significant majority.
After that,it’s anyone’s guess.
A UK Ambassador to Ireland writes:
Priti Patel’s boorish Brexit comments showed ignorance about Ireland. She’s not alone
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/dec/10/priti-patel-brexit-ignorance-ireland-vote-uk