The Lancet Medical Journal suggests meat consumption must fall to avoid ‘climate catastrophe’

If we ever hope to defeat
Climate change then it’s goodbye to meat
And soon the soybean
Is all that will be seen
It’s a new world I can’t wait to greet

John Moynes

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44 thoughts on “A Limerick A Day

  1. Spaghetti Hoop

    Easy to cut down on meat nowadays with all the produce on offer. But try and buy Irish – it makes no sense changing your diet for environmental reasons and then buying green beans from Kenya.

    Never understood why there are so few varieties of local fish, reasonably-priced at that, in our supermarkets. An island-frigging- nation.

    1. Cian

      I blame the church. By making Friday a meat-free day, this turned fish into a ‘penance’ .

      That and the complete lack of any traditional cuisine here (especially for fish).

        1. Spaghetti Hoop

          Technically it’s flesh, yes, but in the food pyramid (and therefore in the context of diet), meat is animal flesh, sinew and organs and fish is seafood. Completely different items. The Church considered meat as animal flesh – hence fish was not included in the penance. Calling fish ‘meat’ is just going to screw up all the rules of nutrition.

          1. scottser

            the food pyramid is a construct of the agri and food lobbies and should not be referred to outside of a political education lecture.
            *folds arms over large belly*

          2. Spaghetti Hoop

            You’re messing right?
            The food pyramid has been around since the 1950s, and following various revisions, is still used in schools today. Still showing meat and fish as separate entities too!

            (I despair of this site at times like this)…

          3. Rob_G

            @Spag:

            The food pyramid doesn’t really have any scientific underpinning; it is basically a marketing tool.

          4. postmanpat

            Spagetti Hoop. the food pyramid is still being used in schools sure, so I guess everything is okay. because it is being used in schools. Business have zero influence on education too. Every poster and book in school is 100% benign. Once you switch off your critical thinking that is.

          5. Spaghetti Hoop

            It’s used to educate people about the basic food groups and a balanced nutritious diet which promotes moderation – what the hell is wrong with that?? We are supposed to be fighting obesity, diabetes and diet-related illnesses caused by excess consumption of a limited rage of food groups, therefore diet education is vital. If anything, it’s an anti-marketing tool when so many quacks and media agencies roll out daily scare stories about certain foods and drinks. These are often simply sponsored adverts. It’s a known fact that families in the poverty cycle have less healthy diets, and a lot of that is due to ignorance. I’m honestly interested in your alternative solution please, postman.

          6. Andyourpointiswhatexactly?

            The matchbox-sized portion of cheese per day makes me sad.

            The food pyramid is sobering: our portion sizes are bonkers, especially for such a sedentary bunch.

          7. scottser

            hoop, i was only being partly facetious. the pyramid has had numerous revisions over the years and you have to accept that the pyramid isn’t absolute – our own was revised extensively in 2016. for example it still recommends 200 – 300g of carbs per day when half that will do most people. also, it will always be problematic claiming that one dietary regime will benefit everyone equally.
            anyway, there are loads of critiques of the pyramid should you care to read up on it.

    2. postmanpat

      The government needs to step in and stop Irish beef being flown half way around the world too. All cattle should be slaughtered , the bovine piss alone pollutes the streams and rivers, so matter how moral high ground Irish farmers can compare themselves to US factory farms , its all bad.

    3. Studcat

      Don’t kid yourself, Jimmy. If a fish ever got the chance he’d eat you and everyone you cared about.

  2. Starina

    Misleading limerick, really, the study suggests that meat consumption be dramatically reduced, not cut out entirely. And please buy free range when you do buy meat.

      1. Nigel

        Sheep are responsible for overgrazing on the hills, resulting in habitat degradation, biodiversity loss and flooding. At this point free-range pork and chicken are the only sensible choices if you want to be an ethical meat-eater. Good luck! Modern life in western Europe has been almost consciously designed to make even proposing ethical choices in consumption look ridiculous and futile! Do it anyway.

        1. Cathal

          It’s not 1985, hardly any sheep grazing on hills nowadays, the sheep you used to see on the hills wouldn’t have been entering the food chain anyway. Mountain ewes would be a bit tough. World population is too high ,we can blame the cows and sheep but the truth is we are 2 billion people too many.

    1. postmanpat

      Have zero children but watch your peers pop out 4 because they had all boys and wanted a girl. or had 3 girls and wanted a boy. then decided they wanted a brother/sister for the single boy/girl and try again and again and again. Crisis averted!

  3. Martco

    yea yea yea

    I’ve bacon on the pan right now (O’Neills, look out for it on the shelves it’s the best I’ve had out of the packet ever)

    this evening I’ll be doing steak (striploin) & chips with a old school Diane sauce for the household

    fantastic

    1. postmanpat

      Ummmmm taste the bowel cancer!!! Bacon for breakfast! the staple food for idiots tricked by Edward Barnays! Still, in this age of information too no less.

    2. Starina

      an ex of mine subsists entirely on steak, bacon, cigarettes, coffee, weed and cocaine.

      I don’t know how he’s still alive. sheer willpower, I guess.

      1. Andyourpointiswhatexactly?

        I think I remember that David Bowie, while he lived in Berlin, lived on milk, red peppers and coke.

        1. Martco

          seems not, there’s an item on that list I’ve not tried yet (I think).

          I might know Starina, have wondered at times & I do like her but I refuse to get drawn into any weird Bertie / Millie thing please (certainly not in front of all youse anyway)

          that bacon was a class act by the way, weighted down flat on the pan high heat nicely rendered fat & crisp golden rind, had it in a soft white roll with butter & strawberry jam – don’t judge until you try

          1. Gertrude

            I’m not judging, not my place. As for the online flirtation/love-in, i’d guess it’s alot less weird than many real life relationships/marriages ;-p

          2. Spaghetti Hoop

            Nothing like a few rashers with a hangover! Which I recall faintly, back in December 2018.
            #dryjanuarysucks

    1. postmanpat

      nonsense! we can get that 1.5 degree clock down to 5 years if we put our nose to the grindstone and swallow everything the culcies tell us! Lets all work together to end the world by 2025!! Throw away those condoms and stock up on steak!! I want everyone buying 4x4s on pcp by lunchtime!!! (if the world ends in 5 years we wont have to pay the finance companies back , tee hee!!)

  4. johnny

    -grow you own food FFFs !
    It amazes me given the climate that more people in Ireland don’t have home or kitchen gardens, its fantastic spiritually,mentally and also incredibly nutritious to grow your own food and weed,if your so inclined.
    Allotments and community gardens are brilliant,they should be heavily subsidized and encouraged by the govt,IKEA has teamed up with Tom Dixon to sell urban gardening gear, they also have a line of affordable indoor (hydroponic) stuff.
    DCC has a list of community gardens and application info on its web site,looks like there is a waiting list !

    “For IKEA, this collaboration is about challenging the way society looks at growing in general and addressing that it’s both possible and rewarding to have a place to grow your own plants in the city,” said James Futcher, creative leader at IKEA Range and Supply.
    Food is key to humanity and design can support with better solutions. Because at the end of the day we need people to feel inspired to grow and harvest their own edibles within their homes and communities.”

    https://www.dezeen.com/2018/11/29/ikea-tom-dixon-urban-farming-gardens/

  5. Dub Spot

    I see that the pigsquealing from the usual suspects (farming, FG, EU snouts in trough, etc) to say the opposite is coming mostly from Gammon.

  6. SOQ

    For anyone interested, Cauldron in the UK do a super range of plant based protein foods. In Tescos, but not sure where else. cauldronfoods.co.uk The only thing I have seen from Ireland do far is The Happy Pear and imo they are overpriced knicker-less (fake) fur.

    Let’s get real. Ireland is a clean country but has a very dirty argi industry so time to block live animals being exported, as a start.

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