Where Will They Live?

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Top, from left: Chris Ciauri, Salesforce; Minister for Finance, Paschal Donohoe; Mark Hawkins, Salesforce; Taoiseach Leo Varadkar; Elizabeth Pinkham, Salesforce; and Dr. David Dempsey, Ireland Country Leader, Salesforce, earlier

This morning.

Taoiseach Leo Varadkar, on his 40th birthday, officiated as US software giant Salesforce announced that it is adding 1,500 jobs over five years.

The company will establish ‘Salesforce Tower’ (above) an urban campus of four interconnected buildings located on North Wall Quay within Silicon Docks.

Reggie writes;

If these are basically call centre/customer support jobs, who will be able to afford Dublin rents?

Anyone?

Salesforce to create 1,500 jobs with Dublin investment (RTÉ)

Earlier: Not Fit To Hold A Candle

53 thoughts on “Where Will They Live?

  1. ollie

    If these are basically call centre/customer support jobs says Reggie

    The new roles will be in a variety of areas, including sales, customer support, engineering and business services, say Salesforce

    1. Rob

      Despite the rubbish name for the company, the sales jobs aren’t low payed call centre jobs. When I first heard of it I thought it must be something like outsourced cold callers, but they sell software to companies, big and small, and are well paid for it. They also go in for a slightly weird sense of family culture. Not Irish family culture, family off the telly family culture, with emotions and hugging and stuff. ugh.

      If I wasn’t so emotionally backward, rubbish at selling and IT illiterate, I might go for a job myself.

  2. dan

    Happy Birthday Leo.
    Will you celebrate with a big environment damaging steak or will you settle for some less greenhouse gas producing sausage?

    1. Andrew

      ‘create’ is stretching things.
      They’re here for the tax break and wild west accounting gymnastics that will be done to disguise profit.. Most of the money earned in salaries will be spent on rent, by exploited immigrants. How will that benefit anyone but a very small cohort of rent seeking parasites?
      But hey, globalism is great

  3. Dr.Fart MD

    ireland habitually paves the way for americans. The government will actually do some work, they’ll work towards housing the new salesforce staff. if that means booting out irish people, so be it. We’re nothing but a nuisance to gov. anyway.

      1. Daisy Chainsaw

        For min wage while Salesforce will get preferential rates like paying 0.0005% corporation tax.

        1. Giggidygoo

          Not to mention grants etc. Multi billion companies getting a few million in grants ( Bausch and Lomb is a prime example) to create jobs (or in some cases not to leave) which means any employers PSRI, Tax is negated.

          The IDA is always announcing ‘x’ numbers of jobs created – but when you look at it in detail, the jobs are ‘over 2,3,4,5 years’, and surprise, surprise the same jobs get announced in the 2,3,4,5 years. The IDA were cottoned on to, as they used to publish the actual details of the companies and number of jobs ‘created’ on their website, but don’t any longer. They were caught out announcing Coca Cola jobs a few years back – 200 in each of Drogheda, Wexford and Waterford. But as we all know, there were no such jobs in Waterford for instance.

          1. SOQ

            IDA is the same mentality as FÁS. The better the economy, the more expenses, but don’t ask us to do any work.

            Dundalk, the largest town in Ireland, only pulled PayPal because a local woman was at such an influential level she could do so. 50 minutes from Dublin up the best road in Ireland and yet, cheap as chips office space still sits idle.

            Why is that?

  4. A Person

    Really, no Irish people work in US companies here? No Irish people in current employment / unemployment would possibly want to switch from their current job to another, which would offer better opportunities. Are you Dev back from the dead. Lets be insular, create nowt, dance at the cross roads, and export all our youth because we won’t create any jobs. What an eff wit comment.

  5. Mike

    I have worked for a few American Multinationals (that is quite typical for most of the gang I know from college) and I’m often surprised and disheartened at the tone some people take about these types of employers.
    A lot of Irish people have built a life through these companies – and every job is a win.
    My partner is from a poorer part of the UK and we lived there for a while.
    I think people need to travel to a few “no-hope” places or indeed cast their mind back to when Ireland as a whole was a “no-hope” place. We are not without our fair-share of problems, but lack of opportunities for quality professional employment is not one.
    I work in Finance and I see the amount of money we spend on Irish support services – whether its the amount of food sold in our canteen to the sheer amount of money we give Irish Health Insurers / Law firms / Facilities.
    The amount of economic activity that surrounds these places is vast – and there’s something for everyone – from cleaners to high-end legal/finance work.
    Bagging 1,500 jobs is a win.

    1. Spaghetti Hoop

      Agree. Have worked for a few of them too and once you have a decent work ethic and can see through a lot of the BS, they can be very motivating and pleasant places to work. I did find however that all of the many benefits resulted in a lower salary than the benchmark. But then I wasn’t in sales with performance-pay.

    2. Zaccone

      +1

      A large part of the reason we’re no longer a Catholic church dominated, poverty riddled, semi-theocracy is down to our increased wealth as a country. Which, in large part, has come from all these American MNCs coming in since the 1990s.

      Whatever about certain companies individual work practices, as a whole they’ve been massively positive for the country.

        1. Cian

          Just because it is a cliché doesn’t mean it’s not true.
          There is a reason that it is a cliché.

        2. Zaccone

          I’ve worked for more than one of them. A minority of them have terrible American work practices (that are luckily somewhat constrained by EU employment law), most don’t. But either way, they, as a whole, have made a huge positive contribution to Ireland.

          If you’d rather focus on the economic benefits that American FDI has resulted in outside of defanging the church then by all means do that instead – welfare, hospitals, schools, emergency services – pick any part of the Irish state you want. They’ve all received massively increased amounts of funding as a result of the American firms being here. Not that any of them are brilliant today mind you, but they’d be considerably worse if they had even less funding than they already do.

          1. Andrew

            Oh Christ. The naivety is actually fupping shocking. I could explain it to you but it would take too long.
            At least Cian is just being disingenuous. He’s got skin in the game. What’s your excuse?

  6. KRS One

    I worked for Salesforce and previously Oracle before them. Working for SF nearly put me in an early grave. I was consistently on 150/175% of target yet it’s never enough. Pointless calls at 2am on a Wednesday from my director…. or on Stephen’s Day just before I sat down for dinner with my family.
    I was so brain washed by their crap I didn’t even notice I was having a break down. it took my mother and girlfriend to plead with me to quit. Only after I did, I saw how I was behaving. I was working myself to the bone, never happy with myself or performance (although I was over achieving). Not sleeping or eating, spending all my money on drink and coke.
    I can’t really fault Oracle but after working for SF, I’d never work for another US company again. Particularly one as cult like as SF

    1. Martco

      re. cult…you wouldn’t fancy being an “IBMer” so ;)
      good decision & trust me you’re not alone, I know loads of lads who’ve had similar realisations. it’s a tough balance having to live the corny & sometimes offensive dishonest americanised bs worklife ‘cos it pays then mortgage & feeds the kids but it’s killing you inside..end of day you have to be happy and do something that fulfills.
      US corporates are not all same to work with but I have noted a definite escalation in the knobheads it’s managed to produce over the last 10 years.
      imho fine for a 5 year stint to get your career going in your singleton 20’s then work a way out of the swamp for your 40’s asap
      good luck to you!

    2. Lilly

      I’m not keen on the Americans’ love of the lunchtime meeting. It denies employees their legal entitlement to a proper lunch break, to spend as they wish, with the added horror of being forced to watch the meeting honcho inhale tuna sandwiches while spewing meaningless corporate mumbo jumbo. Lose-lose.

      1. Johnny

        -just wait till the exercise class meeting takes off,do you guys have Soul Cycle or Barry’s Bootcamp ?
        A popular bonding experience in NY/LA is to get all hot and sweaty with employees/clients,by taking a class together at Soul Cyle/Barry’s/Rumble-exercise is the new golf:)
        By the way who has time for lunch !
        On a personal level I really enjoy working in America and with American companies,worked and lived in London loved the city but intensely disliked the brits,the food and the yob/chav culture.

        1. Lilly

          ‘By the way who has time for lunch !’

          The French, and civilised people everywhere. There has to be more to life than chasing the dollah.

          1. Lilly

            I’m not talking about the entire society. I’m talking about people working in corporate jobs. The bistro is still an essential part of their day.

          2. Johnny

            As is violent protests,rioting,looting and burning cars.
            Yellow vests out in force again today,perhaps if the elite spent a little less time in the bistros:)

  7. Giggidygoo

    Mmmmm. Now where did all those hundreds of new jobs with Paypal go? The ones that Enda Kenny was out in similar fashion announcing?

    1. Andrew

      You’re missing the point. Those jobs are here and the workers are living in bunkbeds in flats all around the city.
      But wait, janet will be her soon to explain how globalism and driving down living standards is a good thing. Because diversity, etc…. and some other vague pseudo leftist boo boo pants.

      1. SOQ

        I would love to be one of these people who has so much time and money that they can all day play dysfunctional head games on Broadsheet?

      2. Dub Spot

        To be fair to Salesforce, the CEO took a stand to support Prop C in San Francisco (home of the real Salesforce Tower). Unlike the Limerick Collison Twins who did the opposite. Of course, they’re a different stripe altogether.

        Perhaps Benioff will take on Eoghan ” No Slab” Murphy. It’s clear the Irish won’t.

        https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/07/san-francisco-proposition-c-homeless-tax-passes.html

        https://www.irishtimes.com/business/technology/salesforce-ceo-accuses-stripe-billionaires-of-hoarding-money-and-not-helping-homeless-1.3667759

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