The Metrolink south section is to be abandoned following opposition to proposals to close a road linking Ranelagh and Rathmines in Dublin 6.

A road closure near the Green Line
Caused locals to get up and whine
And kick up a stink
About the MetroLink
And Minister Ross was supine

John Moynes

30 thoughts on “A Limerick A Day

  1. dan

    here’s the real isue with FFG.
    Yet another load of money spent on consutants that has been totally wasted yet no accountability.
    Just like the Children’s Hospital; a rectulangular building on a green field site would have cost hundreds of millions less than the original estimated cost, yet this doesn’t get any media airtime.

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  2. Junkface

    Good God Ireland is tedious. They can’t do anything, and people are too objectionable. Especially the comfy middle class areas, NIMBY-ism holds progress back

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    1. Andyourpointiswhatexactly?

      The people certainly are objectionable, but don’t you mean they object to things too much? I haven’t had enough coffee to bring the correct word into my head. Jaysus. Tumbleweed in my brain. What is it? Well, there are rude words for it, which certainly come to mind. But the proper one? Nope.

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      1. Junkface

        Ha ha, you are right. Whats a better word? Hmm…. I guess confrontational is the best I can come up with. What’s a better word?

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          1. Junkface

            Ah yes. That works. I’ve known several instances of family friends over the years in various areas around Dublin suburbs, where they wanted to build an extra bedroom, or an extension and the amount of objections from neighbours were crazy. I mean, they were trying to talk to the neighbours and explain their needs, more kids on the way and such. Their neighbours became very unreasonable, and when their issues were figured out and explained logically one week, they would come back weeks later with a new reason to object. This went on and on with the local councils, architects, whatever. Nothing was ever good enough for them. We all noticed that it was a real pattern in the suburbs, especially middle class ones.

  3. Worlds Biggest Ranter

    It was totally unnecessary to send the Metro line to the south side anyway. There’s DART to the east and the Luas in situ. Get the Airport connected to the city and make it a place where everything is interconnected at that one point. Far more important now to get Navan connected rail along with an outer orbital road for Leinster. This would connect Dundalk to Meath West, Kildare and the M9 Motorway. Remove the snarl up from the M50 and stop dragging half the country as far as a Dublin inner ring road just to make a connection to another main route.

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    1. ____

      It’s completely necessary – the trains need somewhere to go. It’s not fesable to just stop at Stephen’s green, they need a depot to end at.

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      1. Worlds Biggest Ranter

        Simply make one of the city centre stations the terminus and connect everyone at that one spot i.e. Connolly. Airport Metro meets suburban rail meets inter city trains meets Luas meets bus station and all in the city centre! It couldn’t be simpler. Alternatively go for a blank sheet site and start again without everyone arriving at the one place. They’ve managed it in plenty of other large cities.

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        1. Starina

          +1

          Thank fupp they’ve abandoned the southside section, the talk of closing the luas for two years was dreadful. Not to mention it was super redundant to follow alongside the luas that far…

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          1. ____

            It was never planned to close at all, small sections would be closed for limited periods over a 1-2 year period.

            And look into why it would be necessary – it’s people spouting this kind of nonsense without taking even a few minutes to look into it that’s landed us in this mess.

        2. ____

          The stations are already massive bottle-necks. You get more free-flow having the terminus out of the demand areas but linking the lines along the way instead.

          The plan of linking at ranelagh was the quickest and cheapest thing to do, while also giving the best result.

          Shelving this project ( and this announcement has to be the precursor to that) is mind-boggling for the sake of inconvenience to a handful of idiots.

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          1. Worlds Biggest Ranter

            Hence a blank sheet approach I suggested and start again. Spending billions on a short term “quickest and cheapest” solution is just adding to our previous hotchpotch approach of before. Lets actually do it properly this time instead of adding another spine to our already fragmented system. They’re doing to it London , they’ve managed it in Vienna. Its not impossible. They faced all the same issues we have to. Our public transport system (especially in Dublin) looks like a primary school built in the 1800s with extensions and prefabs all over the place :-)

          2. ____

            @ ranter

            It IS a well thought out plan, it IS doing it properly. As I said, it also gives the best result.

            Where are you getting the idea that its short-term? The line was built with metro lines in 2004, now it just needs upgrades to eliminate crossings, alter stations and form the link. Green line capacity will also get a huge boost, which again is long-term thinking. Its thinking long-term to think that getting this up and running gets more public support fpr future projects.

            Short-term thinking would be caving to political inconveniences or spending an extra billion ending the line at Stephen’s green.

          3. Junkface

            Here’s an idea. Instead of laying down train tracks in Ireland the usual way, ie: one in each direction, why don’t they double up? So you would have 4 tracks, two in each direction, giving the option of waiting space for trains, or possible extensions to different directions. They do this all over Germany and France, Ireland’s population is rising quickly and they need to think of the overcrowded future.

          4. ____

            @junkface

            This is definitely issue. Not so much on this but a big one for normal rail and especially DART.

            Thankfully planning protection is given to lines now but we’re stuck with the legacy of previous bad planning that’s holding up quad-tracking on existing/expanded dart services – the northern line being out of Connolly being the big example.

  4. Dr.Fart MD

    there’s onviously some powerful people using that road. it’s very irish that a handful of rich people can halt a progressive tram line because they don’t want to be minorly put out for a while. In general Irish people only care about themselves. There’s a ‘not in my backyard’ story/situation in the news almost daily.

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  5. Jaypers

    It seems like areas such as Harold’s Cross, Kimmage/Terenure, Templeogue, Knocklyon Firhouse would have benefited far more from the Metro Link. South East Dublin is relatively well served by the Luas and Dart already.

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  6. Jaypers

    It seems like areas such as Harold’s Cross, Kimmage/Terenure, Templeogue, Knocklyon and Firhouse would have benefited far more from the Metro Link. South East Dublin is relatively well served by the Luas and Dart already.

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    1. ____

      It’s not one or the other, the southern part of metrolink is only a few percent of the metrolink budget (100+m in a 3bn project) – not enough to make it past rathmines.

      Does SW(and others) Dublin need a metro line? Absolutely. It’s totally justified and should be demanded, but it’s not an alternative, it would be a whole other project in itself (with an extra 3-4+bn cost). This is much more likely to actually happen once metrolink is up and running, people see how big the benefit is and there’s more public support.

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  7. Zaccone

    Absolute travesty. Good luck trying to get a Luas in rush hour once the 2500 new homes at Cherrywood are built, without this capacity upgrade.

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