37 thoughts on “De Saturday Papers

    1. eoin

      Rothermere’s Mail, Murdoch’s Sun and (British edition of the) Times and the Barclays’s Telegraph are all referring to him as the Facebook terrorist. All three publishers are fighting tooth and nail with Facebook over advertising and news aggregation. It’s pretty despicable really, remember the white gunman in Norway didn’t need social media to kill 85 people in 2011. Imagine the papers blaming the Vietnam war on the embedded TV journalists. Opportunistic *******s,

      1. gobbledy

        The papers are wanc hors

        I hate to be argumentative but I do think there’s a serious point there too. The technology is encouraging these freaks to mass distribution of their work and if for example a newspaper published a manifesto of a similar case they would be up before a Press Complaints Commission. What’s it going to take to regulate the Silicon Valley scum?

  1. david

    It never ceases to amaze me that certain words cannot trigger the security services
    We all know there is a dark web but anyone who uses the internet has a IP address and can be traced

    It amazes me how someone could plan all this for 2 years without one alarm bell raised
    And I am amazed that the video could be posted but the security cannot police the planning of these evil acts

    And we can send rockets to mars and turn our boilers on with an app but cannot ensure these planned acts cannot be traced by our intelligence services which we spend billions on world wide

    Its time the internet is properly monitored and the only internet access each country allows has to be regulated watched and yes 1984
    Also internet providers must be brought to book and if any abuse shut down
    In the 1970s the Brits monitored every phone call coming from the republic and certain words used triggered the call to be listened to and recorded

    And we are led to believe the world is helpless

    1. MaryLou's ArmaLite

      Encryption makes comms quite secure. Unless you know which devices to look at it is quite difficult to see the content.

    2. Walter Ego

      Yeah, and we can have id cards with facial recognition and cameras set up in every house, we could also maybe make certain groups of people wear symbols so we can recognise them and we could hoard them into camps and we can have robots that can execute suspects on sight and…and….sharks with lasers and……

    3. ReproBertie

      You say you want the internet controlled and monitored but when the people who run this site try to exercise some control you ignore them and come back again and again and again with different usernames and the same meaningless, faux pearl clutching, bigoted scaremongering.

      Do you know what a hypocrite is?

    4. Ron

      @roddies.. There it is. The most stupidest comment I will read all week about this event. Well done Roddies, you managed to pack so much stupidity into one comment it’s actually breathtaking. What’s even more dangerous is that you probably have a vote. Exactly as I described below in my post. Wait for the crys of ‘we need to regulate the internet’. Political filth in this country are only gagging for an excuse to police social media because it’s the one thing they can’t control. It’s where their lies and corruption is exposed. They would love it controlled.

      Let’s call out the gun manufacturer here. what type of weapon was it? That company should be shut down, no? Let’s associate their brand with this lone crackpots actions. No gun no people would have died.

      Stop talking through your botty boop about regulating social media and start addressing the root cause, which is banning weapons that are used in these attacks. And unless your prepared to do that, it’s time to hush

  2. Catherine costelloe

    And on a happier note we can be proud of Willie Mullins , top trainer and Gold Cup winner at Cheltenham. A gentleman and represents us so well abroad.

    1. BTBarnham

      Patrick Mullins got mugged of a win on the line on Wednesday …his 1st reaction. He offered his in congradulations to Nico the winning jockey, cannot buy class

  3. Ron

    The events in New Zealand are a nice distraction for Government away from the incompetence and ineptitude of the political filth in this country. Watch next how this will be used to further impose rules around what people do on social media and how the political filth need to control that. why are the calling it the Facebook massacre? let’s call out the gun manufacturers. Let’s associate their brand with what he has done?

    Social Media and people’s freedom of expression is the single biggest threat to the political filth all over the world in that they can’t control the message, the narrative. it weakens their control over people because it’s the one way that their lies are consistently exposed

    1. f_lawless

      tabloid style journalism should also be held accountable, I would guess (haven’t read the study, just the abstract): It’s the same with the press over this side of the world.



      This study uses quantitative and qualitative methods to analyse how New Zealand mainstream newspapers represent Islamic identity and Muslim communities. Events reported between October 2005 and September 2006 by three broadsheet metropolitan dailies are analysed to identify prominent news themes and how Muslims are socially constructed. In particular, four events occurring across the period are analysed with a view to comparing the texts with other studies that argue Muslims are constructed in Orientalist terms as dangerous others. The Bali bomb incident, London bomb scare at Heathrow Airport, Middle East conflict, and Iranian Nuclear issue represent prominent news stories that allow the identification of stereotypes and negative depictions, which reinforce Orientalism. The findings suggest a disparity in some newspapers in the sample between hard news and editorials. Although hard news appears to reinforce Orientalist representation of Muslims, the editorials adopt a more liberal pluralist construction of Islamic identity and issues.”

  4. eoin

    I wonder if Judge Raymond Groarke is a landlord?

    A prospective tenant in receipt of rent assistance was rejected by a landlord in Dublin because he was receiving the payment. That’s illegal. So the tenant brought the landlord to the Workplace Relations Commission and was awarded €2,000, which is nothing really in the context of a property that was probably renting for €1,000 a month. However, the landlord wasn’t happy and appealed to the Circuit Court where Judge Groarke upheld the WRC ruling but halved the payout to just €1,000 (unquantified legal costs were also awarded against the landlord). This is no deterrent at all to the discrimination that HAP tenants experience. The Times Ireland has the story today.

  5. eoin

    Not surprising that immigration and direct provision are hogging more news space, the Times Ireland reports

    “Arrivals of asylum seekers rose by 26 per cent in Ireland last year despite a general decline in refugees across Europe, according to EU figures… Figures from the Reception and Integration Agency show that 5,928 people were living in direct provision in October, the most since December 2009…The EU figures show that there were 3,655 new applications for asylum in the Republic last year — an increase of 745 over the previous year and the highest since 2008. Across the EU the number of first-time applicants fell by 11 per cent.”

    I’d guess it costs around €100 a day per person to maintain someone in direct provision, especially if you count the admin and legal costs of dealing with asylum applications. That would add up to €500,000 a day, every day or €180m a year. I wonder who’s making out like bandits from this government scheme.

      1. eoin

        €37 a day to provide accommodation, food, clothing, travel, health and education services, a pittance of an allowance, legal support and to administer the asylum system? Gway outta dat.

        1. Brother Barnabas

          the state pays €1.2 million a week on the direct provision system. it costs €13,500 per annum on average to keep someone in the system.

          1. eoin

            Doesn’t it cost around €100,000 a year to keep a prisoner in prison? Wouldn’t an asylum seeker have greater need for legal services than a run-of-the-mill prisoner? Of course, you’d expect prisons to have more staffing expenses, but aren’t there at least some staff in direct provision centres, and won’t things like catering in DP centres be done by paid staff rather than prisoners, free of charge, in the prison system. Also, I don’t think the €100,000 includes any allowance for the cost of the prison property (apart from ongoing maintenance and facilities and services) whereas, doesn’t the private sector charge for property in the DP system.

            €13,500 sounds unfeasibly low to me.

          2. Brother Barnabas

            I don’t know, but that’s the figure. It’s perhaps an indication of the scantness of resources being made available to people in DP.

    1. Cian

      It is strange how the number of asylm applications seems to match the economic status of Ireland.

    1. Catherine costelloe

      You’ll see a rocking horse poop first before there are resignations – imagine the victims family devastation. Oh , wait, they don’t matter one iota.

  6. Johnny

    There is an ongoing fraud/embezzlement investigation at the American Ireland Fund,with the amount involved estimated at or around 1,000,000,but it could easily be much more.The individual involved has not yet been charged with any criminal acts,but is involved in messy litigation that’s ongoing.In the court documents one the main defenses has been,no self incrimination in declining to cooperate.In other words I’m not cooperating prove it….
    Part of the case involves trip (s) to Ireland on behalf this extremely well connected charity and meetings…

    Given the CEO of the fund stated this in the IT,you may think Ireland’s Min of Justice,after all the it involves visits to Ireland,would perhaps given the whole situation a wide berth,ah stop this is Ireland !

    ‘However, the Dallas incident did occur on my watch. As chief executive, I have to take responsibility for that. Leadership has consequences and this crystallised my decision to leave. I will continue to support the funds always.”

    Yesterday Charlie shared a stage with the recently ‘resigned” CEO,with possible criminal charges pending…

    ‘Senator George Mitchell, the main architect of the Good Friday Agreement, and Congressman Richard Neal also addressed the conference which has been organised by Irish Central, former Ireland funds director Kieran McLoughlin and business and community stakeholders in the United States.’


  7. Johnny

    Today the IT covers this meeting,but ‘shockingly’ does not disclose that it’s US hack was a speaker at it…

    ‘Among others speaking will be Amy Chozick, Political Reporter The New York Times; Suzanne Lynch, Washington Correspondent for the Irish Times; John Concannon, Director General Global Ireland for the Irish government; Mark Redmond, CEO American Chamber of Commerce in Ireland, and Maureen Mitchell, Director Sterling Bank.‘

    Is it too much to ask the IT to disclose if it’s reporters are speaking at events it’s “reporting” on……..

  8. Clampers Outside!

    Time now for “What the papers do and don’t say” brought to you by Eoin & Johnny!

    …thanks lads ;0)

    1. Johnny

      Anytime champ,must make a nice change from your men in dirty trenchcoats that meet in sheds feed…

        1. Johnny

          The post is about the IT not disclosing in a report that’s its hack was a speaker at the event,what’s your about champ,insecure much ?

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