Um.
‘…The room is relatively unfurnished as it used to be our living room, so you’d need to buy a new mattress and whatever storage you want. You’ll be sharing a bathroom with 2 other lads.’
Drummartin Road, Kilmacud, Dublin 14 (Daft)
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Dublin housing is tetris
One day, an old professor was giving a lecture on efficiency.
Standing in front of this group young adults, who were willing to write down every word that would come out of the famous professor’s mouth, the professor slowly met eyes with each student, one by one, and finally said, “we are going to conduct an experiment”.
From under the table that stood between the professor and the listeners, the professor pulled out a big glass jar and gently placed it in front of him. Next, he pulled out from under the table a bag of stones, each the size of a tennis ball, and placed the stones one by one in the jar. He did so until there was no room to add another stone in the jar. Lifting his gaze to the students, the professor asked, “Is the jar full?” The students replied, “Yes”.
The professor paused for a moment, and replied, “Really?”
Once again, he reached under the table and pulled out a bag full of pebbles. Carefully, the professor poured the pebbles in and slightly rattled the jar, allowing the pebbles to slip through the larger stones, until they settled at the bottom. Again, the professor lifted his gaze to his audience and asked, “Is the jar full?”
At this point, the students began to understand his intentions. One replied, “apparently not!”
“Correct”, replied the old professor, now pulling out a bag of sand from under the table. Cautiously, the professor poured the sand into the jar. The sand filled up the spaces between the stones and the pebbles.
Yet again, the professor asked, “Is the jar full?”
Without hesitation, the entire group of students replied in unison, “NO!”
“Correct”, replied the professor. And as was expected by the students, the professor reached for the pitcher of water that was on the table, and poured water in the jar until it was absolutely full. The professor now lifted his gaze once again and asked, “What great truth can we surmise from this experiment?”
That no matter how crowded a house in Dublin can get, you will always find room for more tenants.
Not gonna get better anytime soon
“Not a party house but all love a drink in the kitchen after work.”
Yeah because there’s no f**ping sitting room
“sorry if I dont get back to you as I’m going to be flooded with emails!”
Jaykers!!
This definitely seems like illegal subletting.
It’s a licensee situation rather than a sub-let
No, it’s the tenants subletting the living room of the property. More than likely without permission to do so from the landlord.
Come on, this is not the worst of them – one more person has a roof over their head, two tenants have the monthly rent a bit cheaper (although now minus a living room); this is not a ‘six bunk-beds in a box room’ situation.
Comments like this normalise what is not a normal housing market. Taken on it’s own, sure, not so bad.
This is one example of very, very many. And that’s different, imo.
It doesn’t have to be the worst to highlight how dysfunctional the housing market is here at the moment.
(although now minus a living room)
Little details like that can have a huge impact, so it’s best they’re not normalised.
I used to live in a living room that had been changed into a bedroom – sure, it would have been nice to have a living room too, but it was nice and big for a bedroom, and it sure was better than being homeless.
“better than being homeless”
Now, that’s the kind of aspiration people should be striving for!
Ok, so say they kept it as a living room – there would be one more person looking for a room. These people would clearly rather have the rent money than a living room, and their decision to rent it out as a bedroom has gone a small way to alleviate the homeless crisis a tiny bit, whereas hand-wringing on the internet does precisely nothing to alleviate it.
I’m beginning to think you were dropped on your head as a baby.
Do you not have any Zionist conspiracies to uncover?
Rob_G, you know that this was the way that people used to live in over a hundred years ago during and post industrial revolution don’t you? In Dublin (and other cities) this led to dangerous cramped conditions for tenants and their families, which also led to crumbling tenement buildings, frequent and tragic fires and deaths. So in many ways Irish living standards are going backwards. Turning average homes into cramped fire hazards. A noble achievement for Irish Politicians and our impotent Government.
To the 1890’s!
You’re right, I didn’t know that people lived in apartments with two bedrooms, WiFi, and a low-maintenance garden one hundred years’ ago, no…
*two bathrooms
I’m talking about cramped living conditions, lack of shared space. Things that are important to mental health. Not talking internet and wifi.
By the way they are sharing a bathroom according to that ad. They don’t have 2 bathrooms.
In your eyes, why would you need a bedroom at all? Just sleep in a coffin, everything outside of the coffin is now a living room. Problem solved
Having to share a bathroom, and having to hang out in a kitchen – you’re right, it’s as bad as the famine, worse, even…
I’m beginning to think that you were dropped on your head as a baby.
Repeating oneself constantly is kind of the type of behaviour one would expect from someone dropped on the head as an infant, tbh…
there is 5 people already living in the apartment, dont know of any 5 bedroom apartments around there. My guess it is a 2 bed 1 en-suite type place, which means it is is overcrowded already, without adding 1 more.
What is wrong with this? It’s a room in a house for god’s sake. It’d be different if they wanted to continue using it as a sitting room. But a disused sitting room is a bedroom waiting to happen. God almighty, some people just want spacious 4 bedrooms to be popping up all over the place with lovely people and nice areas and they won’t stop rolling their eyes until it happens.
How much did the Fallon brothers get their grubby hands on for that listing – €175 (featured rental ad), €95 (premium, high priority) or €45 (standard rental listing)?
https://www.independent.ie/business/irish/daft-dividend-property-sites-fallon-brothers-share-in-8m-37487324.html
“THE millionaire Fallon brothers have shared a further €8m dividend windfall with other shareholders from their online group of companies this year and last year… The revenues include the income generated by the daft.ie and the Done Deal websites. “
Total tooty pants.
its a house share you numpty, so its free. Are they supposed to inspect all house share ads too?
Why don’t you ever mention the other Norwegian owners?
How long until that shed in the garden goes up?
Oh no that’s already leased to a family of three.
I wouldn’t be surprised
eating dinner in bed, entertaining guests in bed…so civilised, first world country my hoop
Perhaps they entertain their guests in the kitchen, or on the patio.
Seriously, do you not live in Paris or something – surely this is more living space than 90% of the studios there. Yes, it not as nice as having a sitting room, but some of comments on this particular listing are hyperbolic in the extreme…
indeed, Goatstown v central Paris, what are people complaining about!!
Again, please stop normalising the housing situation.
This is not normal.
Also your comment is based on nothing more than assumptions on your part. I hope Jan sets you right.
All of this is terrible for Irish peoples mental health, and is more than enough reason for the working youth to emigrate. People in their 30’s and 40’s have to live like this. The brain drain will only get worse. Transport is a mess, long commutes has been proven to be detrimental to health too, according to numerous UK studies. This can’t go on like this, FG are appalling at Governing, FF are also awful. Somethings got to give.
To be fair this is normal enough and I don’t really see anything wrong with it.
Often in house shares the sitting room doesn’t get used much anyway as people might stay in their rooms, I see no harm in this and depending on location 390 a month isn’t bad, I remember paying 350 a month 7 years ago in limerick for a similar sized room.