It seems so transparent to me the Stack family is hunting for compo. First an apology for deficiencies into the investigation of the killing of their dad by the IRA in the 1980s. Yesterday’s apology was top news on RTE and Paul Reynolds was the lead reporter, so you know there’s more to it. And now, the Stacks demand an independent inquiry. All so any failures can be avoided in future. Yeah right, you can smell the compo claim a mile off. Do they have a “legal team” yet? And how many 10s of thousands feel unhappy with a Garda investigation.
GiggidyGoo
They say they got an apology. Written or verbal I wonder.
Stack also was supposed to be considering running for the EU in the last elections. On the FF ticket.
But I’d concur as regards the possible motive – compo. The last time Stack was in the news was an attempt to reduce Gerry Adams’ support. What happened in the meantime is that Adams is no longer leader of SF, and Mary Lou McDonald doesn’t have any baggage that Adams may, or may not, have had. Austin Stack ran out of options, so the last chance saloon is compo.
Of course there’s an election on the horizon, so no surprises at the timing.
If Harris did apologize in this case, I think he may set aside a sizable proportion of his time now for other apologies, both sides of the border. Odd that there hasn’t been a press release, or statement from Harris so far about his apologizing.
eoin
First, we have the FG government frustrating new legislation by insisting on a so-called “money bill” for legislation it doesn’t like. The “money bill” is supposed to be for new legislation that can impact the public purse, but arguably ALL legislation impacts the public purse and the government is exploiting this. The Opposition point out that 10s of Bills are being frustrated because the govt won’t provide a money bill.
And now, we have the judicial appointments bill, the legislation to create a lay person led council to stop the insider cronyism that’s been the hallmark of judicial appointments in Ireland. Shane Ross made the Bill his key demand for entering govt in May 2016. He even went on strike in 2017 to stop the approval of new judges until the bill was passed but he was persuaded to give up his strike. The bill has been stuck in the Seanad for a year. There’s been more than 100 hours of debate, which is probably a world record. And has the Bill passed? Yesterday, Minister for Justice Charlie Flanagan said the legislation “does need a substantial amount of work” and it will be delayed at least into the autumn. Will Shane Ross pull the plug?
eoin
RIP Noel Whelan, barrister (who represented Martin Callinan at the Charleton Tribunal) and Irish Times columnist, regular on RTE news and current affairs progs and hubby to Twitter’s Irish head honcho. Former FF election candidate and the driving force behind the JFK summer school. Dead at 50.
Just as he took Silk n’all
Bloody 50
Makes you want to think
I’ll admit he got my nerves in the last 3 or 4 years
But he was the most solid resource for Tallies and predicting transfers across all elections and media platforms
There wasn’t a constituency he did know all the runners and riders and the going
So, in my view, he can be forgiven for being an RTÉ lovie the rest of the time
No-one can deny his contribution to the Equal Marriage Referendum campaign
I suspect that’s what he will be remembered for most since he turned it around and made it a campaign of goodwill, respect and fairness
Well that’s what I hope for his memory and legacy anyway
RIP Mr Whelan
eoin
Virgin Media’s TV news last night breathlessly headlined a no deal Brexit would affect property prices but alas, the detail of the reporting didn’t offer you much of a clue as to quantum. The UK’s politically independent Bank of England has forecast a decline of up to 35%. Is that the sort of magnitude that we’re facing in Ireland? If unemployment increases by 50% (55,000) and the economic growth slows to a standstill and there are concerns about peace and security, we could be looking at 10-20%, bringing us back to 2017 levels.
Papi
He provides a valuable contribution to the site and we are not worthy of his analysis.
Cool_Hand_Lucan
I guess you could say we all eoin a huge debt
Papi
This weeks first year journalism assignment, put rhetorical questions all the way through your articles? it generates reader interest? Also, answer your own questions?
B9Com From No
“Just asking questions”
Except when it comes to the number and types of cars in the Mosney Direct Provision centre car park. Was a bit more definitive there.
eoin
New edition of The Phoenix out today. Best cover for a long time.
As for the “Love In” (formerly Niall Harbison, now Emmet O’Neill’s media outfit) sale first reported by the Sindo last weekend, €10m? Seriously? If so, Bodger & Co wouldn’t be blamed for spending the day on a charter to somewhere good because BS is in the same media reach ballpark.
No mention of damages though (even though LMFM is part of Murdoch’s radio empire and could well afford it).
Gerry also doesn’t appear to have had luck with the Sunday World.
And his battle with the BBC doesn’t seem to be going any where fast.
I’d hate to see the solicitor fees that Gerry is stumping up. Is he managing all this litigation on the average industrial wage?
eoin
Worth buying the Phoenix for the full story. They claim LMFM stumped up Gerry’s legal costs. Maybe, maybe not, can’t see any reference to that in Gerry’s own announcement about the matter.
But just think about that for a second. LMFM admitted in its statement the broadcast was defamatory. LMFM has reportedly (the Phoenix) paid Gerry’s legal expenses. LMFM is part of Murdoch’s empire. But no damages at all?
Does that mean Gerry’s reputation is worth precisely zero? Is it zero because it’s widely believed Gerry was the leader of the IRA (and if you believe PSNI ex-chief constable George Hamilton in 2015 and, just last month, UUP MLA Doug Beattie speaking after a briefing with the PSNI, the IRA hasn’t gone away you know).
The BBC Spotlight libel case is in fact coming before the High Court in the Republic for a hearing in 2020. I hope Gerry has deep pockets, because the BBC does.
Also, it kinda explains why Sinn Fein couldn’t give a toss about reform to our draconian libel laws.
bisted
…I like your contributions eoin but your contant shinner bashing is showing…do you have an agenda?
millie st murderlark
Eoin? Nah. He’s great.
eoin
No political party agenda, no, practically all of them have policies worthy of bashing.
Ah, thanks Millicent, you’re not so bad yourself ;-)
B9Com From No
She’s not that red-headed pianist though
SOQ
Only in the north could zero sum nationalism dance around itself so much that the two main parties end up supporting the exact opposite of what they stand for.
SF say that while it is not the preferable option, they would support the extension of equal marriage and abortion rights from Westminster. The DUP on the other hand, who take such pride in their British heritage and have made such a big deal out of NI being treated the same as the rest of the UK-oppose such a move.
As I saw on Twitter yesterday, the DUP now need to decide who they hate more, Sinn Féin or the gays.
B9Com From No
Boris protests today are “insincere guff”
– senior civil servant
I’m worried about the way things are going
Civil war in US and U.K. between executive and permanent government
Bad for NI and bad for us
Brother Barnabas
wait until they hear about fintan warfield
TTtMMGTR
I said No,No,No!
Papi
Just got that.
B9Com From No
It was a cry for help
I thought i was staring into the abyss
into the squalid garret of moderation
Sitting in my crying chair
Because I have an opinion!
Emasculated
Sequestered
Fetters rent in Twain
But I’m free again now
God is merciful
B9Com From No
Remaindered
Couldn’t think of it earlier
V
Brendan Grace as well
Ah what a day of news
He always made me laugh
And that’s not easy
RIP Bottler, I’ll remember you fondly and with a stupid smile, and probably laughing at your Father of Bride speech as if I had just seen it for the 1st time
Charger is fierce quiet today after bOjO made it clear who he works for.
Heh, heh, and I believe, heh.
B9Com From No
Indeed
Either that or he’s overdone it on the Pims
Again
Charger Salmons
More interested in the action in Birmingham at the moment than engaging with numbskulls like you.
But glad to see I’m still driving you demented in absentia.
B9Com From No
Oh yes isn’t there an Irish fella there propping up a few lager swilling passengers and village green idiot types?
Multi-culturalism, eh, what old boy
Papi
And yet, here you are.
Heh, heh, heh.
Charger Salmons
The knuckle-heads are agitated today.
Always happens in school holidays.
Papi
You’re better when you’re not angry, just calm down a try again later.
Charger Salmons
Angry ?
I’m watching an excellent game of cricket with a large G&T.
You seem bored.
Are you unemployed by any chance ?
B9Com From No
Watches cricket – tick
Drinks during the day – tick
Asks OTHER posters if THEY are unemployed- tick
Or rather, hic!
Oh dear
Charger Salmons
I’m on me holliers.
Isn’t a chap allowed to relax over an afternoon sharpener ?
What a dull life you must lead.
V
But shur’ that’s all ya can do when yer watching cricket
Get Langers
Papi
Charger is hunched in front of a black and white portable with a bag of cans, a nobody.
V
you mean you couldn’t find your login
Charger Salmons
I had you down as having more gumption than this pair of simpletons.
V
and that would be about the only thing you’ve got right about me
B9Com From No
Handy with the caman I’d say
Transferable skill to cricket bat
You might as well go over and give them a dig out
So desperate for talent they already use our sloppy 2nds
Charger Salmons
I dunno V.
I’d like to engage in the bantz but it seems the woke folk at BS are concerned you might not be able to take it and keep deleting my bullying comments directed at you.
I’m sure you can but their long standing ban on bullying is preventing you having the chance.
Anyway,back to the cricket.
Toodles.
V
Well I can’t speak for them
Their gaff their rules
But feel free to give it a lash on another platform
@FrillyKeane
and see how I cope
Papi
Charger is rattled that he can’t bully someone. Nanny would have let him. Diddums.
Charger Salmons
” long-standing ban on bullying ” ?
Double-standards again from the snowflakes at BS towers.
Try telling Frilly Keane that a mild joke about her looks is bullying.
You give it out – you gotta take it.
Wimps.
Bodger
Charger, Put down the Pimms.
B9Com From No
+ pint glass
Charger Salmons
I’d respond in kind Bodger but I’m worried you’ll pick up your underskirts and run off squealing like a puppy with a smacked bottom.
It’s G&T anyway and England are through to the World Cup Final so the musings of a moderator on an obscure Irish webiste are but a mere folderol.
Now get back to those hard-hitting posts about puddles that look like Ireland …
bisted
…is that Irish fella still playing for England?
Charger Salmons.
Marvellous chap is Eoin Morgan.
One of Ireland’s greatest-ever sportsmen, a millionaire through his exploits for England and a nice feller to boot.
Always good to see an Irish person heading to the mainland to find opportunities missing at home.
Thanks Ireland.
B9Com From No
Folderol – that’s a great word
This post was pretty good in fairness
B9Com From No
I’m on my mods again
Must have been that cellist jibe
Anyway @bisted, yes that Irish guy is their best player. He hit a 45 not out to wrap it up today
Charger Salmons
Actually it was a South African,Jason Roy,who hit 85 who sealed the deal for England today.
But what would you know silly pants?
B9Com From No
I know that all your best players usually come from the former colonies
Doesn’t say much about the natives talent
Charger Salmons
Quinn Roux,Bundee Akee,CJ Stander …
Bait the hook and the tiddlers will bite.
B9Com From No
We don’t purport to be the home of cricket or rugby. Indeed those garrison games are mostly only enjoyed by posho wannabe losers over here
Papi
Didn’t you storm off a while ago cos you were given your comeuppance? Maybe do that again, it was really impressive. Really.
V
is that addressed to me Paps
Papi
God no, to the salmons creature.
V
Ah ya Dote
Hope you understand why I had to ask
xV
Charger Salmons
Nah,too busy enjoying watching England smash their way to a world cup final.
But I do find the cant and hypocrisy of BS rather droll.
They rail against Denis O’Brien’s censorship of the media then fall over themselves in their haste to delete a bit of badinage about one of their chums.
It’s student newspaper stuff.
V
you could be talking about yourself there Charage
All talk and no trousers stuff
It seems so transparent to me the Stack family is hunting for compo. First an apology for deficiencies into the investigation of the killing of their dad by the IRA in the 1980s. Yesterday’s apology was top news on RTE and Paul Reynolds was the lead reporter, so you know there’s more to it. And now, the Stacks demand an independent inquiry. All so any failures can be avoided in future. Yeah right, you can smell the compo claim a mile off. Do they have a “legal team” yet? And how many 10s of thousands feel unhappy with a Garda investigation.
They say they got an apology. Written or verbal I wonder.
Stack also was supposed to be considering running for the EU in the last elections. On the FF ticket.
But I’d concur as regards the possible motive – compo. The last time Stack was in the news was an attempt to reduce Gerry Adams’ support. What happened in the meantime is that Adams is no longer leader of SF, and Mary Lou McDonald doesn’t have any baggage that Adams may, or may not, have had. Austin Stack ran out of options, so the last chance saloon is compo.
Of course there’s an election on the horizon, so no surprises at the timing.
If Harris did apologize in this case, I think he may set aside a sizable proportion of his time now for other apologies, both sides of the border. Odd that there hasn’t been a press release, or statement from Harris so far about his apologizing.
First, we have the FG government frustrating new legislation by insisting on a so-called “money bill” for legislation it doesn’t like. The “money bill” is supposed to be for new legislation that can impact the public purse, but arguably ALL legislation impacts the public purse and the government is exploiting this. The Opposition point out that 10s of Bills are being frustrated because the govt won’t provide a money bill.
And now, we have the judicial appointments bill, the legislation to create a lay person led council to stop the insider cronyism that’s been the hallmark of judicial appointments in Ireland. Shane Ross made the Bill his key demand for entering govt in May 2016. He even went on strike in 2017 to stop the approval of new judges until the bill was passed but he was persuaded to give up his strike. The bill has been stuck in the Seanad for a year. There’s been more than 100 hours of debate, which is probably a world record. And has the Bill passed? Yesterday, Minister for Justice Charlie Flanagan said the legislation “does need a substantial amount of work” and it will be delayed at least into the autumn. Will Shane Ross pull the plug?
RIP Noel Whelan, barrister (who represented Martin Callinan at the Charleton Tribunal) and Irish Times columnist, regular on RTE news and current affairs progs and hubby to Twitter’s Irish head honcho. Former FF election candidate and the driving force behind the JFK summer school. Dead at 50.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/writer-and-barrister-noel-whelan-dies-aged-50-after-short-illness-1.3953576
@ 50? Goodness- RIP
Also, RIP Brendan Grace.
Just as he took Silk n’all
Bloody 50
Makes you want to think
I’ll admit he got my nerves in the last 3 or 4 years
But he was the most solid resource for Tallies and predicting transfers across all elections and media platforms
There wasn’t a constituency he did know all the runners and riders and the going
So, in my view, he can be forgiven for being an RTÉ lovie the rest of the time
No-one can deny his contribution to the Equal Marriage Referendum campaign
I suspect that’s what he will be remembered for most since he turned it around and made it a campaign of goodwill, respect and fairness
Well that’s what I hope for his memory and legacy anyway
RIP Mr Whelan
Virgin Media’s TV news last night breathlessly headlined a no deal Brexit would affect property prices but alas, the detail of the reporting didn’t offer you much of a clue as to quantum. The UK’s politically independent Bank of England has forecast a decline of up to 35%. Is that the sort of magnitude that we’re facing in Ireland? If unemployment increases by 50% (55,000) and the economic growth slows to a standstill and there are concerns about peace and security, we could be looking at 10-20%, bringing us back to 2017 levels.
He provides a valuable contribution to the site and we are not worthy of his analysis.
I guess you could say we all eoin a huge debt
This weeks first year journalism assignment, put rhetorical questions all the way through your articles? it generates reader interest? Also, answer your own questions?
“Just asking questions”
Except when it comes to the number and types of cars in the Mosney Direct Provision centre car park. Was a bit more definitive there.
New edition of The Phoenix out today. Best cover for a long time.
https://www.thephoenix.ie/current-issue/
As for the “Love In” (formerly Niall Harbison, now Emmet O’Neill’s media outfit) sale first reported by the Sindo last weekend, €10m? Seriously? If so, Bodger & Co wouldn’t be blamed for spending the day on a charter to somewhere good because BS is in the same media reach ballpark.
I see Gerry Adams was successful in his action against LMFM. False and defamatory comments. And a written apology, and it also read out on the station.
https://www.thejournal.ie/lmfm-apology-gerry-adams-4707944-Jul2019/
No mention of damages though (even though LMFM is part of Murdoch’s radio empire and could well afford it).
Gerry also doesn’t appear to have had luck with the Sunday World.
And his battle with the BBC doesn’t seem to be going any where fast.
I’d hate to see the solicitor fees that Gerry is stumping up. Is he managing all this litigation on the average industrial wage?
Worth buying the Phoenix for the full story. They claim LMFM stumped up Gerry’s legal costs. Maybe, maybe not, can’t see any reference to that in Gerry’s own announcement about the matter.
https://www.sinnfein.ie/contents/54275
But just think about that for a second. LMFM admitted in its statement the broadcast was defamatory. LMFM has reportedly (the Phoenix) paid Gerry’s legal expenses. LMFM is part of Murdoch’s empire. But no damages at all?
Does that mean Gerry’s reputation is worth precisely zero? Is it zero because it’s widely believed Gerry was the leader of the IRA (and if you believe PSNI ex-chief constable George Hamilton in 2015 and, just last month, UUP MLA Doug Beattie speaking after a briefing with the PSNI, the IRA hasn’t gone away you know).
The BBC Spotlight libel case is in fact coming before the High Court in the Republic for a hearing in 2020. I hope Gerry has deep pockets, because the BBC does.
Also, it kinda explains why Sinn Fein couldn’t give a toss about reform to our draconian libel laws.
…I like your contributions eoin but your contant shinner bashing is showing…do you have an agenda?
Eoin? Nah. He’s great.
No political party agenda, no, practically all of them have policies worthy of bashing.
Ah, thanks Millicent, you’re not so bad yourself ;-)
She’s not that red-headed pianist though
Only in the north could zero sum nationalism dance around itself so much that the two main parties end up supporting the exact opposite of what they stand for.
SF say that while it is not the preferable option, they would support the extension of equal marriage and abortion rights from Westminster. The DUP on the other hand, who take such pride in their British heritage and have made such a big deal out of NI being treated the same as the rest of the UK-oppose such a move.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/northern-ireland-devolution-abortion-gay-marriage-dup-sinn-fein-a8999541.html
As I saw on Twitter yesterday, the DUP now need to decide who they hate more, Sinn Féin or the gays.
Boris protests today are “insincere guff”
– senior civil servant
I’m worried about the way things are going
Civil war in US and U.K. between executive and permanent government
Bad for NI and bad for us
wait until they hear about fintan warfield
I said No,No,No!
Just got that.
It was a cry for help
I thought i was staring into the abyss
into the squalid garret of moderation
Sitting in my crying chair
Because I have an opinion!
Emasculated
Sequestered
Fetters rent in Twain
But I’m free again now
God is merciful
Remaindered
Couldn’t think of it earlier
Brendan Grace as well
Ah what a day of news
He always made me laugh
And that’s not easy
RIP Bottler, I’ll remember you fondly and with a stupid smile, and probably laughing at your Father of Bride speech as if I had just seen it for the 1st time
– https://youtu.be/StTQCb-jEnE
Learn to control your dreams and make them reality.
Charger is fierce quiet today after bOjO made it clear who he works for.
Heh, heh, and I believe, heh.
Indeed
Either that or he’s overdone it on the Pims
Again
More interested in the action in Birmingham at the moment than engaging with numbskulls like you.
But glad to see I’m still driving you demented in absentia.
Oh yes isn’t there an Irish fella there propping up a few lager swilling passengers and village green idiot types?
Multi-culturalism, eh, what old boy
And yet, here you are.
Heh, heh, heh.
The knuckle-heads are agitated today.
Always happens in school holidays.
You’re better when you’re not angry, just calm down a try again later.
Angry ?
I’m watching an excellent game of cricket with a large G&T.
You seem bored.
Are you unemployed by any chance ?
Watches cricket – tick
Drinks during the day – tick
Asks OTHER posters if THEY are unemployed- tick
Or rather, hic!
Oh dear
I’m on me holliers.
Isn’t a chap allowed to relax over an afternoon sharpener ?
What a dull life you must lead.
But shur’ that’s all ya can do when yer watching cricket
Get Langers
Charger is hunched in front of a black and white portable with a bag of cans, a nobody.
you mean you couldn’t find your login
I had you down as having more gumption than this pair of simpletons.
and that would be about the only thing you’ve got right about me
Handy with the caman I’d say
Transferable skill to cricket bat
You might as well go over and give them a dig out
So desperate for talent they already use our sloppy 2nds
I dunno V.
I’d like to engage in the bantz but it seems the woke folk at BS are concerned you might not be able to take it and keep deleting my bullying comments directed at you.
I’m sure you can but their long standing ban on bullying is preventing you having the chance.
Anyway,back to the cricket.
Toodles.
Well I can’t speak for them
Their gaff their rules
But feel free to give it a lash on another platform
@FrillyKeane
and see how I cope
Charger is rattled that he can’t bully someone. Nanny would have let him. Diddums.
” long-standing ban on bullying ” ?
Double-standards again from the snowflakes at BS towers.
Try telling Frilly Keane that a mild joke about her looks is bullying.
You give it out – you gotta take it.
Wimps.
Charger, Put down the Pimms.
+ pint glass
I’d respond in kind Bodger but I’m worried you’ll pick up your underskirts and run off squealing like a puppy with a smacked bottom.
It’s G&T anyway and England are through to the World Cup Final so the musings of a moderator on an obscure Irish webiste are but a mere folderol.
Now get back to those hard-hitting posts about puddles that look like Ireland …
…is that Irish fella still playing for England?
Marvellous chap is Eoin Morgan.
One of Ireland’s greatest-ever sportsmen, a millionaire through his exploits for England and a nice feller to boot.
Always good to see an Irish person heading to the mainland to find opportunities missing at home.
Thanks Ireland.
Folderol – that’s a great word
This post was pretty good in fairness
I’m on my mods again
Must have been that cellist jibe
Anyway @bisted, yes that Irish guy is their best player. He hit a 45 not out to wrap it up today
Actually it was a South African,Jason Roy,who hit 85 who sealed the deal for England today.
But what would you know silly pants?
I know that all your best players usually come from the former colonies
Doesn’t say much about the natives talent
Quinn Roux,Bundee Akee,CJ Stander …
Bait the hook and the tiddlers will bite.
We don’t purport to be the home of cricket or rugby. Indeed those garrison games are mostly only enjoyed by posho wannabe losers over here
Didn’t you storm off a while ago cos you were given your comeuppance? Maybe do that again, it was really impressive. Really.
is that addressed to me Paps
God no, to the salmons creature.
Ah ya Dote
Hope you understand why I had to ask
xV
Nah,too busy enjoying watching England smash their way to a world cup final.
But I do find the cant and hypocrisy of BS rather droll.
They rail against Denis O’Brien’s censorship of the media then fall over themselves in their haste to delete a bit of badinage about one of their chums.
It’s student newspaper stuff.
you could be talking about yourself there Charage
All talk and no trousers stuff
who’s the chumanyway