Global carbon emissions, 2016
China: 28%
US: 15%
India: 6%
Russia: 5%
Japan: 4%
Germany: 2%
South Korea: 2%
Iran: 2%
Canada: 2%
Saudi Arabia: 2%
Brazil: 1%
Mexico: 1%
Australia: 1%
UK: 1%
Italy: 1%
Turkey: 1%
France: 1%
Ireland: NOT EVEN 1%#rtept— Think First (@news24r) July 18, 2019
There you go now.
*sound of cows breaking wind*
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world population 2016 7.6 billion
Ireland population 2016 4.7 million
4700000 is 0.061842105263158% of 7600000000
Ireland is teetering @ 6/7 millionish. Perhaps you’re ignoring The North? Before The Famine – Ireland’s population was @ 8 million. Who would have thought that a diet of potatoes would wreak such devastation?
The North is irrelevant in the context of public policy as the Dail does not set climate change policy in the North.
Emissions per capita is a much more meaningful measure where we rank higher than China.
This.
…two legs or four?
Isn’t it global warming?
What’s your point, Bodger?
why should per capita matter?
Because it demonstrates that all countries, no matter how small, contribute in some way to the problem of global warming and as such have a responsibility to act.
Of course China and the US contribute more to the problem; that’s undeniable. But comparing their contributions to Ireland’s and saying “Not even 1 %!!!” like it’s some sort of gotcha is dumb.
Indulge me and let’s assume the last few years of climategeddon is primarily about introducing a carbon tax, preferably a global one administered by a world body. How would this work if our contribution is not even visible? Would we get carbon credits?
Why should we indulge you on this Bodger – your hypothetical of a ‘global’ carbon tax administered by a ‘world body’ doesn’t take into account the geopolitical reality we’re living in.
Wow, Bodger, the censorship of anything that doesn’t agree with your world view is frankly sickening, good bye Broadsheet.
Mezcal, if you have an issue with Gemma O’Doherty take it up with her. Your comments were obnoxious.
So the question has changed from “Why does per capita matter?” to “Our contribution is invisible; how would WorldGov account for this in their Global Carbon Tax regime?”
You know that “Not even 1%” is not the same as “0%.” In the scenario you propose, which I do not believe will come to pass, we’d have a contribution to make, most likely proportionate to our contribution to the global problem. I.e. China would pay more than us.
This is leaving aside the flippant and dismissive framing of the issue as “the last few years of climategeddon.”
You would say mass now wouldn’t you, since no one can see what I said. It wasn’t obnoxious, you just don’t like your ludicrous and paranoid fantasies being held up for what they are.
My income would be considerably lower than 0.01% of national income but I still pay my share of income tax at a proportional rate.
Bodger, are you being deliberately ignorant or regular old ignorant? Or are you “just asking questions”?
We can’t directly influence what China or America does. We can however influence what we do here. Hence by taking responsibility for what we do we can affect our own change.
But i get it. We are teenie Eenie weenie and won’t ever come within an asses roar of affecting global levels.
Precisely. So breaking emissions down by country, as this tweet has done, and suggesting Irish people are grand because there’s not that many of us, is nonsense.
It’s also nonsense to call for a cull of rural Ireland and their livelihood as it will make no impact other than people in the “big smoke” feeling better about themselves.
5 in a row, bitch
Shush… don’t mention it.
I’m actually Dublin born and bred with little interest in GAA (I did meet Charlie Redmond once. Giant head). I just don’t think many people who slate farmers have a clue as to the importance it has for our economy.
So the whole looking to be doing something approach to a problem we have no real control over annoys me.
I take your point though. Scamp.
I’m only messing. Sorry.
Apologise again and we will have issues. Have a great weekend gents.
I think everyone in Tyrone remembers Charlie Redmond – ’95 All-Ireland Final – he stayed on the pitch for 5 five minutes after he was substituted. 16 Dubs against 15 Red Hand heroes. Also Peter Canavan’s point wasn’t a foul ball. Now, you come to mention it – he does have a large head? I’m sure he’s a lovely fellah.
This is like Henry Cooper and the ripped boxing glove…
here you go Shayna, 5 minutes is right :)
https://youtu.be/bFI4ak1iO8k
Oh you
This argument suggests we can do whatever we want because we’re small and it doesn’t stack up.
I could use that same argument to defend any bad behaviour on my part be use I’m only one of 5 million people in Ireland so if nobody else breaks the law etc then it doesn’t really matter if I do. If I’m the only person pissing in public it doesn’t make much difference so as long as everyone else stops pissing in public then I’m alright, Jack. A fundamentally selfish argument.
Jaysus whoever posted that is a real thick
https://twitter.com/news24r
what a pleasant twitter page
Christ! Just after seeing a video of a woman have a dump in a cafe in San Fran and throw it at a server. Classy.
And per capita where are we?
Anyone?
A bit than China per capita.
https://edgar.jrc.ec.europa.eu/overview.php?v=booklet2018&dst=CO2pc
We should be trying to reduce emissions by about 45% in the next decade in order to give the next generation a chance of avoiding climate catastrophe.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/oct/08/global-warming-must-not-exceed-15c-warns-landmark-un-report
ireland is less than 120th the size of brazil
As well as the per-capita comment it’s also important to remember we outsource our carbon emissions a lot too. A decent chunk of those Chinese emissions will be from factories/transport and such being used to produce products consumed in the EU.
+1
This is true. But the reverse happens too. Over 90% of our beef is for export – and this is a large chunk of our greee house emissions.
It would be interesting to see the complete breakdown.
Which is how we can affect things in other countries indirectly. Don’t buy their stuff. Simple not simple.
if cows are seaweed it would reduce by 70 percent, plus they like it
cows are not seaweed, however
I herd different…
feck
If if’s and and’s were pots and pans
in my defense I had half day ;)
Not all you had……
Also, happy weekend you crazy loons, I’m offski!!!!
Happy weekend Papi !
dont mind them, J
Yes, how dairy.
this is becoming quite amoosing
I’m finding it a bit bovine
raising the steaks, I see
I’ll have mine rare with a nob of salty butter
Oh my
No one does filth like our Jan
why thank you
That got the juices flowing
Nothing to see here, moove on.
How embarrassing, I meant this as reply to the above comment. Amateur hour.
You’re still hurt by the Lion King/Spice girls debacle, no harm, no foul.
We’re all a bit shook to be honest. Charger is posting lullabies.
The udder comment?
Let me count the problems with this post….
*Source is an alt-right twitter account filled to the brim with racisim and a whole host of conspiricy theory nutbaggery.
*Ignores population size when counting carbon contributions.
*Ignores the fact that the amount of CO2 we emmit is cumulative (at least on any timescale relevent for us) and so you need to take into account historical contributions too – particularly relevent when comparing countries like UK or USA with India or China.
*Ignores global nature of production and so doesn’t account for where the end products of all that emmited carbon ended up.
30 seconds looking at this should have been enough for anyone with even a minimum of cop on or regard for their own reputation to say “no, I won’t post this pile of extreamly low viscosity male bovine excriment”.
Please try harder…..
Yeah, but globalists, man.
“Globalism” is the defining factor as to why emissions are so how but sure glib it up Mezcal.
Kick them out……
The amount of stuff tweeted by utter loons like this alt right ethnationalist page reshared uncritically on BS atm is not good
Dave, the science is one thing (and we’ve posted thousands of posts in support of your position along with Cllr Dan’s weekly column) the scam is another. Do you support a carbon tax? If yes, who should set the rates? The UN? The World Bank? As our biggest emissions are from methane from cows, presumably herds must be culled. With our insignificant emissions in the grand scheme of things wouldn’t this be purely symbolic, cruel and silly?
+1 Bodger
Why would the herds be culled?
The price of beef should rise to ofset the ecological cost of production. And then the people can decide if they can afford red meat 5 days a week.
But it won’t just be Irish beef – everything should include the ecological cost in the price. Maybe we’d stop buying expensive Cyprus potatoes and start sourcing cheaper local ones?
Dave is pretending that CO2 is toxic in the atmosphere. It is not.
Atmospheric CO2 is essential to life on earth – without it no food.
97% of atmospheric CO2 is natural in origin – human’s produce only 3% of the earth’s annual CO2 budget.
So Ireland produces less than 1% of 3% of atmospheric CO2.
That’s 1% of 12 parts per million or a total of 0.000000012% of the total volume of CO2 which – remember – is an ATMOSPHERIC NUTRIENT !!!
30 seconds thinking about this should have been enough for anyone with even a minimum of cop on or regard for their own reputation to say “no, I won’t post this pile of extremely low viscosity male bovine excrement”.
But Dave couldn’t help himself.
Try harder.
Global warming might be a myth but even a Healy Rae would be concerned at the 1,510 premature deaths annually in Ireland from air pollution.
https://www.epa.ie/irelandsenvironment/air/
That compares with 392 premature deaths from suicide (in 2017).
I have a solution to global warming: Divide the big countries into lots of tiny ones so everyone is emitting less than 1% – problem solved! Nobel prize please…
This checks out.
God, the Trump support and denial of same didn’t get rid of me this has. My last comment on Broadsheet. Sad it used to be a fun site
Joe.ie awaits you George.
I think Bodger and Nick are both somewhere between ‘a’ and ‘b’ on the bell curve in the previous post
Maybe a bit closer to ‘a’ – no offence lads
Our Carbon Emissions the attempt to reduce them won’t make one bit of
difference and the so called Green Party would be better employed if they
did something about the destruction of the landscape by wind farms and
pylons