Friend of mine went and said it looked liked people coralled in pens. Like sheep waiting for a-shearing.
Conksi
so many fences, TBH they were worse than vehicular traffic
Janet, I ate my avatar
and no fupping darts running !
Hank
Now try doing it in Dundalk..
some old quare
All of this is very nice but as one taxi driver mentioned- that is the main artery between two major parts of the city. If they want to run a comparison between Dublin and other cities who are already doing this- perhaps they could start with the public transport systems?
george
Explain where people are going that requires them to drive across college green?
When I type southside destinations into google maps starting at O’Connell Street the fastest routes do not involve college green.
Mexican
Indeed, I regularly cross Dublin both directions (evenings and weekends) and it’s been years since I’ve used College Green or indeed any of the streets in that area. There is no need for non-public transport to be anywhere near there (disabled drivers aside).
some old quare
Taxis are categorised as public transport no?
george
They shouldn’t be as on average they carry less than one passenger.
No example of a journey “between two major parts of the city” where college green is the quickest route?
Iwerzon
Took the kids down. It was pretty poo unless you like colouring in.
spider
They closed off South William St on Saturday… much more sucessful… they way they did it at College Green was a mess.
Wasn’t there but I haven’t heard much in the way of positive feedback.
Is it true they only had a small number of entrances and exits to it?
george
The barriers were a joke. Do they think roads are dangerous? Not when you remove the cars.
A Person
Why trail it on a Sunday in July during the school holidays to see the real affect? Why not a wet Monday in November? It’s spin of the highest order. Where will all the buses go – Parliament and Capel Street, which never have traffic!!
george
Why would there be increased traffic on College Green due to schools? Loreto College is the only one nearby and there are better routes to get there.
scooperman
I assume to give people a taste for it. Encourage buy in. Spin? Maybe. But is that such a bad thing.
Rob_G
Where will all the buses go – Parliament and Capel Street, which never have traffic!!
– the solution that jumps out to me here would be to restrict access of private motor vehicles these streets.
A Person
It’s a simple fact that there are more commuters, including buses, private cars, work vehicles on the roads when the schools are not on holidays. As for Parliament and Capel Street, both are relatively narrow, constantly clogged, and both are residential streets. The reason this plan was rejected previously was because the City Council did not have appropriate alternative transport routes when College Green was closed. BTW not everyone can cycle to work, and therefore any city centre should be as flexible as possible to all forms of transport.
some old quare
Now sshh with that logic- you’ll be asking school children to use the legs God gave them next.
Imagine arriving into an taisce green schools lesson looking like you walked in the rain? Morto.
A Person
My kids walk, cycle and use the bus to get to school. No morto involved. My point is that cities must cater for all forms of transport. Amsterdam is a perfect exemplar. trains, trams buses, cars, cyclists everyone. Not just middle class people who happen to live near their place of work and can afford to walk and cycle into the city. The farmers market and face painter types.
Dhaughton99
It was a s***show when I tried to cycle through around 9:30 yesterday morning. The bike lane was blocked with piles of barriers and the temporary bike lane they were supposed to put in was nowhere to be seen and you had to be fed into the traffic by stewards at the George’s st junction. A pointless exercise. Better off fixing the sunken manholes on that street with the money that was spent.
Qwerty123
Good idea in principle. Unfortunately, if permanent, it will be badly planned and create huge disruption, and the junkies/skangers will make the area a no go zone like the rest of the city centre
Bort
It’s a pity Smithfield square is in Smithfield
Liam Deliverance
@Bort – True, @ Qwerty – Also true regarding the junkies/skangers, no matter what you plan they will be there to spoil it, unless someone politely asks the guards to get the finger out.
Why oh why do those junkies get to hang around on DCC property all day long selling heroin, drinking and the rest, Wood Quay and Winetavern, while tourists and locals try to give them a wide berth or avoid eye contact?
Because if were to round them all up and either lock them away with consecutive sentences or *shock* *horror* try to actually help them to quit there would be a lot of barristers and solicitors down the four courts without much to be doing.
george
So your view is we shouldn’t make Dublin better and just complain that it is a kip? The rest of the city centre is not a no-go-zone. It is full of people every day.
Golly, it’s the 80s again….
What’s with all the security fences?
Friend of mine went and said it looked liked people coralled in pens. Like sheep waiting for a-shearing.
so many fences, TBH they were worse than vehicular traffic
and no fupping darts running !
Now try doing it in Dundalk..
All of this is very nice but as one taxi driver mentioned- that is the main artery between two major parts of the city. If they want to run a comparison between Dublin and other cities who are already doing this- perhaps they could start with the public transport systems?
Explain where people are going that requires them to drive across college green?
When I type southside destinations into google maps starting at O’Connell Street the fastest routes do not involve college green.
Indeed, I regularly cross Dublin both directions (evenings and weekends) and it’s been years since I’ve used College Green or indeed any of the streets in that area. There is no need for non-public transport to be anywhere near there (disabled drivers aside).
Taxis are categorised as public transport no?
They shouldn’t be as on average they carry less than one passenger.
No example of a journey “between two major parts of the city” where college green is the quickest route?
Took the kids down. It was pretty poo unless you like colouring in.
They closed off South William St on Saturday… much more sucessful… they way they did it at College Green was a mess.
Maybe they don’t want it to be a sucess…
Wasn’t there but I haven’t heard much in the way of positive feedback.
Is it true they only had a small number of entrances and exits to it?
The barriers were a joke. Do they think roads are dangerous? Not when you remove the cars.
Why trail it on a Sunday in July during the school holidays to see the real affect? Why not a wet Monday in November? It’s spin of the highest order. Where will all the buses go – Parliament and Capel Street, which never have traffic!!
Why would there be increased traffic on College Green due to schools? Loreto College is the only one nearby and there are better routes to get there.
I assume to give people a taste for it. Encourage buy in. Spin? Maybe. But is that such a bad thing.
Where will all the buses go – Parliament and Capel Street, which never have traffic!!
– the solution that jumps out to me here would be to restrict access of private motor vehicles these streets.
It’s a simple fact that there are more commuters, including buses, private cars, work vehicles on the roads when the schools are not on holidays. As for Parliament and Capel Street, both are relatively narrow, constantly clogged, and both are residential streets. The reason this plan was rejected previously was because the City Council did not have appropriate alternative transport routes when College Green was closed. BTW not everyone can cycle to work, and therefore any city centre should be as flexible as possible to all forms of transport.
Now sshh with that logic- you’ll be asking school children to use the legs God gave them next.
Imagine arriving into an taisce green schools lesson looking like you walked in the rain? Morto.
My kids walk, cycle and use the bus to get to school. No morto involved. My point is that cities must cater for all forms of transport. Amsterdam is a perfect exemplar. trains, trams buses, cars, cyclists everyone. Not just middle class people who happen to live near their place of work and can afford to walk and cycle into the city. The farmers market and face painter types.
It was a s***show when I tried to cycle through around 9:30 yesterday morning. The bike lane was blocked with piles of barriers and the temporary bike lane they were supposed to put in was nowhere to be seen and you had to be fed into the traffic by stewards at the George’s st junction. A pointless exercise. Better off fixing the sunken manholes on that street with the money that was spent.
Good idea in principle. Unfortunately, if permanent, it will be badly planned and create huge disruption, and the junkies/skangers will make the area a no go zone like the rest of the city centre
It’s a pity Smithfield square is in Smithfield
@Bort – True, @ Qwerty – Also true regarding the junkies/skangers, no matter what you plan they will be there to spoil it, unless someone politely asks the guards to get the finger out.
Why oh why do those junkies get to hang around on DCC property all day long selling heroin, drinking and the rest, Wood Quay and Winetavern, while tourists and locals try to give them a wide berth or avoid eye contact?
Because if were to round them all up and either lock them away with consecutive sentences or *shock* *horror* try to actually help them to quit there would be a lot of barristers and solicitors down the four courts without much to be doing.
So your view is we shouldn’t make Dublin better and just complain that it is a kip? The rest of the city centre is not a no-go-zone. It is full of people every day.
Ya, cool story. You need to travel more