Treated Like Children

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The Central Hostel in Miltown Malbay, Co Clare; and a notice from the owner Pat Kelly to a number of asylum seekers currently living in the hostel

Sarah Clancy tweetz:

The stupidest thing about this curfew for want of a better word is that the Central Hotel has a pub downstairs! I presume the customers in the pub haven’t got to be in bed by 10 like children on a school night..that’s just asylum seekers.

The Central Hostel (Booking.com)

Meanwhile…

Top pic: Movement Of Asylum Seekers In Ireland

43 thoughts on “Treated Like Children

    1. Spaghetti Hoop

      How about ‘grow up’? My friend who was six days younger than me used to rile me up with that one.

  1. postmanpat

    Co Clare sucks! All the business’ gouge the American tourists so this doesn’t surprise me. Free cash from a government tap? why not charge 5 or 6 grand a month? Whos going to stop you?

  2. Qwerty123

    This system is a shambles for 2 main reasons, 1) lenght of time for applications to remain to process and 2) ability to remain unlawfully in the country after your application has denied,

    1. Barry the Hatchet

      There is no ability to remain “unlawfully” in the country after an application is denied. There is a right to appeal, during which time the applicant’s presence in the country is indeed lawful. But you knew that.

      1. Qwerty123

        I did, yes. And they appeal and appeal and appeal again. Then they are here for 10 plus years and they stay on humanitarian grounds. great system.

    2. Jake38

      The whole appeals farce is a typical Irish failure to say anything is final, and serves only to enrich lawyers at the expense of the taxpayer.

  3. shayna

    Yikes! I spent most of last Summer in hostels in Portugal, Spain and Malta. Communal living is based on respect of others. In all the hostels I stayed, I don’t recall any signs. So much for Céad Míle Fáilte.

  4. Eddie Kelly

    In fairness, when you imagine the horrors they must have fled this must be the lap of luxury to them, otherwise why would they stay? Direct Provison offers free food and shelter, we should be proud of it.

    1. Papi

      You actually make a good point, it’s the system that leaves people in it for ten plus years or more and leaves kids to wallow with little in the way of positive development that needs to be abolished.

    2. Zaccone

      Free food and shelter paid for by the Irish tax payer, in a reasonable climate, with the prospect of being approved to stay in one of the richest countries in the world. Its not exactly a bad deal really.

      If any of those in the Central Hotel really dislike it then I’m sure the Irish state would be happy to arrange flights for them back to their home countries.

  5. Janet, I ate my avatar

    A country and society should be judged on how it treats the weakest and most vulnérable among them

    1. Rob_G

      Indeed. And in this instance, people are being provided with room and board, with allowances also being made for any religious practices.

      This is aimed at the tweeter rather than yourself, but I can’t believe that people are being offended by a sign, the likes you would see in any B&B or guesthouse the breadth of the country…

  6. eoin

    Asylum applications are increasing by 20% a year. The latest figures for the month of June show a 68% increase on last year.

    “It pointed out that the 383 asylum applications in June represented a 63% increase on the same month in 2018.”

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ireland-s-asylum-hotel-monthly-bill-tops-3-54m-wb8r9f8bj

    We’re spending €3.5m a month on hotels for asylum seekers, people who have no established right to be in this country and who are being accommodated, fed, educated and given an allowance and allowed work.

    1. ReproBertie

      If they are allowed work I presume they are paying tax.

      if they are spending the allowance I presume they are paying VAT.

      What’s the big deal with letting them stay and contribute?

      1. Rob_G

        Moral hazard; if people hear that Ireland is a soft touch, there will be many people from safe countries coming to Ireland to make bogus asylum claims, running millions of euros of accommodation costs, and tens of millions of euros in legal costs. All paid for by John Q. Taxpayer.

        It’s happening already:

        “Some 41 per cent of all asylum claims in the first half of the year were from Albanian, Georgian and South African nationals. All three countries are officially regarded as “safe countries of origin” by Ireland”

        https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/concern-over-rise-in-people-seeking-asylum-from-safe-countries-1.3986377

  7. Johnny Green

    ..For all of her 77 years, she has lived in a 200-year-old thatched cottage in Northern Ireland without running water, electricity or an indoor toilet….and she’s grateful :)
    Glorious Guardian pictorial of a life lived off the grid without fear or loneliness but with faith-no idea on this asylum program but liked the juxtaposition in Ireland,

    https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/gallery/2019/aug/16/living-off-grid-77-years-in-pictures?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

    Ps-Eoin America is full irish with no established right be in this country,one chap with some minor drug possession convictions has become almost a celebrity….

    1. Boj

      “full irish with no established right be in this country” – so they broke the rules and should be sent home…is that racist?

      1. Johnny Green

        -hope there’s no confusion I’ve literally no idea on Ireland’s asylum rules/program could not wait get out that kip:)
        -just really liked the pictures and the lady-she looks fantastic and in some ways I’m envious of her,she has everything I want,but also very little!
        -off to work,for what…….

  8. Shay-boy

    Anyone who is refused refugee status MUST be sent back. We all have micro borders, our hall doors are locked to stop people entering illegally, why should our country be any different?

    Want direct provision to end? Then open up your own homes, simple.

  9. Slightly Bemused

    I have been to and worked in many of the countries these people are coming from. I do not know their individual cases, but being sent back to any of them is very drastic. In some cases, they face imprisonment on arrival.

    Be not quick to judge, please. Our asylum system is not perfect, and in my opinion direct provision is little better than a prison system, but they are looking for a chance. When you have no hope, any chance is worth taking.

    1. Rob_G

      Georgia is a country where rule of law and democracy are advanced enough for the country to enter into preliminary accession talks to join the EU; the idea of people from Georgia being granted asylum status here is beyond a joke.

      1. ReproBertie

        Either we’re granting asylum based on bogus claims or we’re keeping people locked up for lengthy periods while we investigate. So have the Georgians and South Africans been granted asylum or just applied? If they were granted asylum then there must have been grounds. If we’re willing to leave people in DP for 10 years while processing their applications and appeals then clearly the system isn’t the soft touch people are making out.

      2. Otis Blue

        Georgia is not in pre-accession talks to join the EU. It does have a pro EU stance and as a western leaning nation, benefits from financial supports from what’s termed the EU neighborhood policy.

        More pertinently, there is no credible basis for which Georgians should seek asylum in Ireland.

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