‘It’s Almost Like, With Respect, Tory MPs, Like You, Are Delusional’

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Yesterday’s Sunday Times; RTÉ’s Miriam O’Callaghan; Conservative MP Marcus Fysh

This morning.

On RTÉ’s Today with Miriam O’Callaghan.

Pro-Brexit Conservative MP Marcus Fysh spoke to Ms O’Callaghan in light of yesterday’s reports in The Sunday Times based on a leaked secret “Yellowhammer” report on the fall-out of a no-deal Brexit.

The newspaper reported that Britain faces “shortages of fuel, food and medicine, a three-month meltdown at its ports, a hard border with Ireland and rising costs in social care” if no deal is made.

During the interview, Mr Fysh alleged that the leaked memo was “left in a pub” for a journalist to find.

From the interview…

Marcus Fysh: “This is a scenario that doesn’t have to happen.”

Miriam O’Callaghan: “How are you going to avoid this? This is your own government’s assessment of what is likely to happen in the case of a no-deal Brexit.”

Fysh: “Michael Gove, who’s in charge of it and his assessment is that it doesn’t have to happen if we do the right things and that the Government is doing those things to make sure that this is not a thing that comes true.”

O’Callaghan: “But what can your government do, realistically do?”

Fysh: “The point is that we need to ready all of those involved in the cross border trade to make the right declarations, so they have the right papers, so that when they arrive at Calais, they can show the transit documents that they need to get through that border efficiently and then I don’t think there’s any prospect in that situation that the Border would fall over in such a disruptive manner which is at the core of all of these worst-case assumptions.”

“But, yeah, we need to make sure that everybody has the right information and is ready to do the right thing so that that doesn’t happen.”

O’Callaghan: “But I mean, even specifically, in relation to this, civil service detail in this report. According to the documents, petrol, import tariffs could inadvertently lead to the closure of two oil refineries while protests across Britain, which require significant amounts of police resources.”

Fysh: “Well I just thing that that’s, that’s a really bad assessment. I can’t see the logic of that position. I think, to be honest, the civil service have questions to answer, as to why this has been leaked and I think it’s part of an establishment effort to try to scare people. The point is that if you have cheap imports of fuel, then the fuel is available, otherwise those refineries don’t have a problem.”

O’Callaghan: “But Marcus Fysh, it’s almost like, with respect, Tory MPs, like you, are delusional. I mean this is your own civil service coming up with this detail. It’s dated this month, this is what they believe what might happen.”

Fysh: “This is what they have left in a pub for a journalist to find. I think that tells you all you need to know about the motivation. It could have come from the civil service, it could have come from anywhere. But the point is that we know that there are lots of people that don’t want Brexit to happen. And have been trying to scare people into not wanting it. And this is their, sort of, last throw of the dice. The reality is that Brexit is going to happen and we need to prepare for it and we need to prepare for it right.”

Listen back in full here

Related: Operation Chaos: Whitehall’s secret no‑deal Brexit preparations leaked (The Sunday Times)

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17 thoughts on “‘It’s Almost Like, With Respect, Tory MPs, Like You, Are Delusional’

  1. martco

    as Michael Scott wrote…

    Evening has fallen
    The swans are singing
    The last of Sunday’s bells is ringing
    The wind in the trees is sighing
    And Old England Is Dying

  2. Jake38

    “……..part of an establishment effort to try to scare people……”

    Says Marcus Fysh,, horny-handed son of the soil and man of the people.

  3. Johnny Green

    -The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. His heart sank as he thought of the enormous power arrayed against him, the ease with which any Party intellectual would overthrow him in debate, the subtle arguments which he would not be able to understand, much less answer. And yet he was in the right! They were wrong and he was right-
    1984

  4. eoin

    Meanwhile we have the new British Home Secretary, Priti Patel tearing up decades old UK-Ireland agreements

    “Priti Patel has signalled Freedom of movement by European Union nationals into the UK will be end overnight from October 31 in the event of a no deal Brexit” reports the Telegraph
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/08/18/priti-patel-singnals-freedom-movement-eu-nationals-uk-will-end/

    So, what happens to the Common Travel Area, the UK-Ireland bilateral agreement which has allowed Irish/British people travel, work, vote, buy property in each other’s jurisdictions? Is the “memorandum” which Coveney and his counterpart signed earlier this year now worthless? What happens on 1 November travelling from Dundalk to Newry? What happens to a French person travelling from Paris to Dublin and then by bus to Belfast? Should Ireland be preparing for 4 million Irish passported residents of Britain to arrive here as refugees, especially from Liverpool?

    1. Cian

      The various parts of the Common Travel Area are enshrined in British (and Irish) legislation and are actually about living and working in each other country (work, education, health, pension right) rather than the physical movement across the border.
      Removing these rights from Irish citizens would require explicit changes to their legislation.

      1. eoin

        Is that a fact. What’s the British legislation (statute, regulation etc) which guarantees these rights?

        1. Terry

          These agreements are decades older than our
          Membership of the EU and must be adhered to by the EU also it takes an act of parliament to change them
          If you want to talk rubbish post on Beno.com

  5. Scundered

    Adding “with respect” to her blatantly disrespectful jab, that’s just not good journalism, just a cheap shot.

    1. Rosette of Sirius

      Not enough doffing of the caps or ending sentences with ‘sur’ for yah?!

      These Gombeen men deserve nothing other than disrespect and derision.

      1. Scundered

        Just that when she resorts to cheap insults it lessens her argument, it makes her look weaker and she’s capable of better.

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