41 thoughts on “Friday’s Papers

  1. V

    Also Friday 4th October News
    Junior Cert results are out
    Finally

    Unless the Dept change the date
    Again

    Good luck to everyone

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  2. GiggidyGoo

    Whatever did we do without the National Weather Emergency Co-ordination committee up to now?
    Wouldn’t you think that after a couple of meetings, the participants would be well versed in what to do anyway, instead of presenting a TV show for some sort of entertainment? The first ones had people, perhaps 40 sitting in a big square of tables. The last one had more sitting, and the addition of two deep standing behind them. What next – a box like they have in the NY stock exchange?
    And then Posh Boy showing off his reading skills.

    We have had weather as bad, if not worse, in this country for centuries. In more recent times I can remember as bad, without the Yellow (FG), Orange (DUP) and Red (Labwhore) labels. Of course, all of that is the attempt at dumbing down the plebs. It’s worked on Rob_G mind you.

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  3. martco

    well kids? did ye all stay safely locked down in your bedy byes last nite as the massive hurricane tore/ripped/lanced/roared (sorry I’m looking for a scary descriptive word here instilling destructive thought…) a redalert path thru our lives?

    well the main thing is to stay safe. don’t take risks, ever!

    and make sure you always always do whatever you are told by your telly, mkay?

    stay scaredy-safe everyone!

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      1. eoin

        You should go over and pour a glass of water over the entrance of the bunker and yell “flood! save yourselves!”

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  4. GiggidyGoo

    ‘We have achieved what we set out to achieve’ Varadkar on the podium in 2017 when he informed us of a Cast Iron and Politically Bulletproof agreement.
    And today Varadkar tells us the opposite basically.
    What a complete attention-seeking, Celebrity-hunting good-for-nothing excuse of a leader.

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    1. eoin

      However, it seems, while Enda O’Coineen says he was contemplating a “solo” round the globe sailing trip, a Northern Ireland business in which he was a director was being liquidated in the High Court in Belfast.

      The company, Ocean Youth Trust Northern Ireland company limited by guarantee , was wound up after a creditor, a Kevin Moore from Galway, applied to the High Court in Belfast to have it wound up.

      https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/NI037958/filing-history/MzE1MDIyMzAyMGFkaXF6a2N4/document?format=pdf&download=0

      Is Enda still giving us a correspondence address in Czechia?

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      1. Just Sayin

        Enda O’Coineen has been a huge supporter of various Sail Training organisations such as the OYT over the years, it’s pretty despicable to make it look like this was a private enterprise owned by him, when in fact it was a not for profit charity.

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  5. eoin

    The Prison Service recently said, that, in July 2019, there were 4,061 people in prison. The Prison Service gave a breakdown by gender and age. But the breakdown we all wanted was the nationalities.

    I have just come across this.

    What are the top #10 nationalities in prison?

    Irish 3488
    Polish 125
    Lithuanian 79
    British 76
    Romanian 69
    Nigerian 24
    Latvian 21
    Brazilian 16
    Vietnamese 11
    Portuguese 9

    But, what are the top #10 relative to the total population in Ireland (2016 Census) of those nationalities?

    Vietnamese 11 475 2.32%
    Kosovon 3 226 1.33%
    Algerian 6 595 1.01%
    Botswanan 2 215 0.93%
    Angolan 2 259 0.77%
    Somalian 6 808 0.74%
    Georgian 3 429 0.70%
    Moroccan 2 348 0.57%
    Mongolian 2 387 0.52%
    Cameroon 2 412 0.49%

    Irish people ourselves, we’ve just 0.09% of our population in prison, which is greater than the Brits who have just 0.07% of their folks in Irish jails.

    Actually, special mention should go to the Albanians. There were 4 in prison in July but, according to the CSO, there were 0 Albanians living in Ireland in 2016.

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    1. eoin

      Fair play to the Italians, 11,732 residents in the State and not a single one in prison.

      In fact, we should say that at Census 2016, 11.6% of the population were classified as non-Irish, and 14.1% of the prison population are non-Irish, so there’s a slight bias towards non-Irish but it is only slight.

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    2. some old queen

      But the breakdown we all wanted was the nationalities.- No the breakdown YOU wanted was nationalities.

      The plain fact is, poor people commit more crime and a low skilled immigrant will fall into that category- you won’t find many ‘immigrants’ who work in Grand Canal Dock in the joy now will you?

      Socioeconomic factors are far more relevant than nationality- as a break down the Irish figures will testify..

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    3. Bodger

      Plenty of Irish in Rikers, etc and loads more in Aussie prisons. Not sure what you’re driving at.

      Also the ‘drunk tank’ in most major cities are well known to us.

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      1. eoin

        With there being a narrative from some quarters that dem furrigners are all criminals, it’s revealing to get some facts.

        What’s the fact at Rykers? How many Irish are there, and as a proportion of Irish in NY, is it significant? I don’t know.

        Just a slight correction to the above, although the % of non-national residents is close to the % of non-national prisoners, in fact non-nationals are 25% more likely to be in prison than an Irish person, though the figures below (as at July 2019) show a widely varying position for different nationalities.

        Irish 3488
        Polish 125
        Lithuanian 79
        British 76
        Romanian 69
        Nigerian 24
        Latvian 21
        Brazilian 16
        Vietnamese 11
        Portuguese 9
        South African 8
        Czech 8
        Pakistani 7
        Slovak 7
        Algerian 6
        Somalian 6
        Moldovan 6
        Egyptian 4
        Bangladeshi 4
        Hungarian 4
        Chinese 4
        German 4
        Albanian 4
        Kosovon 3
        Georgian 3
        Greek 3
        Congolese 3
        Bulgarian 3
        Dutch 3
        Croatian 3
        Indian 3
        Botswanan 2
        Angolan 2
        Moroccan 2
        Mongolian 2
        Cameroon 2
        Malawian 2
        Zimbabwe 2
        Ukrainian 2
        Estonian 2
        American 2
        French 2
        Spanish 2
        Senegese 2
        Kenyan 1
        Ghanian 1
        Israeli 1
        Turkish 1
        Afghanistan 1
        Mauritanian 1
        Russian 1
        Philippino 1
        Azerbaijani 1
        Belorussian 1
        Gambian 1
        Indonisian 1
        Jordanian 1
        Mali 1
        Mauritius 1
        Nicaraguan 1
        Niger 1
        Sierra Leonean 1
        Tunisian 1
        Ugandan 1
        Zambian 1
        Total 4,061

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        1. some old queen

          But surely the real figure is the percentage of a particular nationality living here who are in prison- rather than just a head count?

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          1. eoin

            Irish 3488 3977729 0.09%
            Polish 125 122515 0.10%
            Lithuanian 79 36552 0.22%
            British 76 103113 0.07%
            Romanian 69 29186 0.24%
            Nigerian 24 6084 0.39%
            Latvian 21 19933 0.11%
            Brazilian 16 13640 0.12%
            Vietnamese 11 475 2.32%
            Portuguese 9 4807 0.19%
            South African 8 3208 0.25%
            Czech 8 4928 0.16%
            Pakistani 7 7351 0.10%
            Slovak 7 9717 0.07%
            Algerian 6 595 1.01%
            Somalian 6 808 0.74%
            Moldovan 6 1987 0.30%
            Egyptian 4 957 0.42%
            Bangladeshi 4 1352 0.30%
            Hungarian 4 9286 0.04%
            Chinese 4 9575 0.04%
            German 4 11531 0.03%
            Albanian 4 0 0.00%
            Kosovon 3 226 1.33%
            Georgian 3 429 0.70%
            Greek 3 1000 0.30%
            Congolese 3 1276 0.24%
            Bulgarian 3 2621 0.11%
            Dutch 3 4664 0.06%
            Croatian 3 5285 0.06%
            Indian 3 11465 0.03%
            Botswanan 2 215 0.93%
            Angolan 2 259 0.77%
            Moroccan 2 348 0.57%
            Mongolian 2 387 0.52%
            Cameroon 2 412 0.49%
            Malawian 2 759 0.26%
            Zimbabwe 2 974 0.21%
            Ukrainian 2 1785 0.11%
            Estonian 2 2169 0.09%
            American 2 10519 0.02%
            French 2 11661 0.02%
            Spanish 2 12112 0.02%
            Senegese 2 0 0.00%
            Kenyan 1 332 0.30%
            Ghanian 1 495 0.20%
            Israeli 1 664 0.15%
            Turkish 1 1043 0.10%
            Afghanistan 1 1271 0.08%
            Mauritanian 1 1929 0.05%
            Russian 1 2716 0.04%
            Philippino 1 4214 0.02%
            Azerbaijani 1 0 0.00%
            Belorussian 1 0 0.00%
            Gambian 1 0 0.00%
            Indonisian 1 0 0.00%
            Jordanian 1 0 0.00%
            Mali 1 0 0.00%
            Mauritius 1 0.00%
            Nicaraguan 1 0 0.00%
            Niger 1 0 0.00%
            Sierra Leonean 1 0 0.00%
            Tunisian 1 0 0.00%
            Ugandan 1 0 0.00%
            Zambian 1 0 0.00%

          2. some old queen

            Vietnamese 11 475 2.32%
            Kosovon 3 226 1.33%
            Algerian 6 595 1.01%
            Botswanan 2 215 0.93%
            Angolan 2 259 0.77%
            Somalian 6 808 0.74%
            Georgian 3 429 0.70%
            Moroccan 2 348 0.57%
            Mongolian 2 387 0.52%
            Cameroon 2 412 0.49%
            Egyptian 4 957 0.42%
            Nigerian 24 6084 0.39%
            Moldovan 6 1987 0.30%
            Bangladeshi 4 1352 0.30%
            Greek 3 1000 0.30%
            Kenyan 1 332 0.30%
            Malawian 2 759 0.26%
            South African 8 3208 0.25%
            Romanian 69 29186 0.24%
            Congolese 3 1276 0.24%
            Lithuanian 79 36552 0.22%
            Zimbabwe 2 974 0.21%
            Ghanian 1 495 0.20%
            Portuguese 9 4807 0.19%
            Czech 8 4928 0.16%
            Israeli 1 664 0.15%
            Brazilian 16 13640 0.12%
            Latvian 21 19933 0.11%
            Bulgarian 3 2621 0.11%
            Ukrainian 2 1785 0.11%
            Polish 125 122515 0.10%
            Pakistani 7 7351 0.10%
            Turkish 1 1043 0.10%
            Irish 3488 3977729 0.09%
            Estonian 2 2169 0.09%
            Afghanistan 1 1271 0.08%
            British 76 103113 0.07%
            Slovak 7 9717 0.07%
            Dutch 3 4664 0.06%
            Croatian 3 5285 0.06%
            Mauritanian 1 1929 0.05%
            Hungarian 4 9286 0.04%
            Chinese 4 9575 0.04%
            Russian 1 2716 0.04%
            German 4 11531 0.03%
            Indian 3 11465 0.03%
            American 2 10519 0.02%
            French 2 11661 0.02%
            Spanish 2 12112 0.02%
            Philippino 1 4214 0.02%
            Albanian 4 0 0.00%
            Senegese 2 0 0.00%
            Azerbaijani 1 0 0.00%
            Belorussian 1 0 0.00%
            Gambian 1 0 0.00%
            Indonisian 1 0 0.00%
            Jordanian 1 0 0.00%
            Mali 1 0 0.00%
            Mauritius 1 0 0.00%
            Nicaraguan 1 0 0.00%
            Niger 1 0 0.00%
            Sierra Leonene1 0 0.00%
            Tunisian 1 0 0.00%
            Ugandan 1 0 0.00%
            Zambian 1 0 0.00%

            Of course those totals are only of legal immigrants rather than actual numbers.

          3. eoin

            Well, the prison numbers are from the Prison Service and they add up to the 4,061 which the PS say were in our prisons in July 2019.

            The population in Ireland by national group is from the CSO 2016 Census. So, if they weren’t counted in 2016, then they won’t be included. Yes, it’s odd that there were 0 for some nationalities, eg Albanian, yet there were four in prison in July, and Albania has, in the past couple of years at least, become the #1 source of monthly asylum applications, with Georgia #2.

        2. V

          Apols from me too E
          That’s a really good point about the likelihood of a non-national being more likely to be convicted and imprisoned

          I’d like to think that a non-national – as a suspect in a crime would be more detectable, for example having poor English and or a heavily tilted accent would make them stand out in a crowd, or more memorable to possible witnesses

          Than something more cynical

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          1. some old queen

            Guard- so what did the assailant look like
            Me- He was just plain gorgeous
            Guard- Brazilian so

    4. V

      surly a criminal is a criminal
      They broke the law in this jurisdiction and suffered the consequences
      Thankfully

      That’s all I need to know that there is some functionality in our Law and Order systems

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      1. italia'90

        The only functionality in “our” law and order system that I have observed over the years is that you get what you pay for.
        The more expensive the legal team you have, the better the outcome for the defendant, usually.

        Do you think all of the above foreign nationals had access to the best legal minds from the 4 goldmines?

        And let’s not mention how judges are politically appointed after showing their political affiliations, either through nepotism or running as a local candidate…

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        1. V

          I try not to think about that ‘Talia
          Yet I won’t deny it’s a cause

          but I’m glass half full – most of the time

          And against the odds and the fiv€ figur€s set up engaged by the other side, the Judiciary did right by me recently, so I’m more inclined to be optimistic that it works for everybody

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  6. eoin

    You’d think Private Eye would be redundant this weather, what with the malarkey in the UK parliament surpassing any satire you could conceive, but there are some nuggets in the current edition.

    An insider in the royal household reports there was “an explosion” when Queen Elizabeth was told that the Supreme Court had ruled the prorogation of parliament was unlawful. The Queen was most unhappy. A phonecall was arranged with Bojo and it was expected by the royal household and their “regal legal eagles” that Bojo would tender his resignation. They were aghast when he rang to merely say “soz” and that was it. Not a happy bunch of smiler and wavers at all. Not at all.

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  7. eoin

    The Irish Times reports “Board of national children’s hospital accuses builder [BAM] of ‘aggressiveness’”

    Is this the same BAM which Leo was referring to when he said in the Dail earlier this year “there are one or two contractors who, quite frankly, I would not like to see get a public contract again in this State”.”

    Is this the same BAM which gave Leo a 6pm ultimatum to distance himself from his comments in the Dail.

    Is this the same Royal BAM group from the Netherlands whose Royals pestered Michael Higgins and Leo over the summer?

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    1. Cian

      I dunno – is it?
      What are you trying to say?
      Can we all make comment that just ask questions?
      Did you know that a question mark should be used at the end of a sentence that is a question?
      Are you an idiot?

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  8. eoin

    Pearse Doherty and the Shinners are playing a blinder in tackling the insurance companies, front page of Examiner and this from Pearse himself

    “Insurance companies are using data analytics and complex algorithms to target customers who are viewed as being less ‘price-sensitive’ or more likely to renew, and then hiking their premiums on renewal.This practice is known to harm vulnerable customers, particularly those who are older or from lower-income households.”

    https://www.sinnfein.ie/contents/55057

    In other words, if the quote you can get online is less than the quote they’re giving you over the phone, then the insurance company has done their work and classified you as “numpty”.

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