Then Liberal Part MP Winston Churchill’s idea to promote ‘the temporary absence of the representation of Ulster’ in the event of Home Rule
Century Ireland writes:
Satirical magazine ‘Punch’ offers a tongue-in-cheek suggestion for how a border in Ireland might be created….
Churchill proposes partition of Ireland (Century Ireland)
Meanwhile...
Mick Fulcher writes:
Sweden is in the EU Norway isn’t.
And this is their idea of a ‘hard border’
Ever get the feeling you’re being lied to?
Anyone?
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Isn’t that Sweden/Norway meme a fairly common Brexiteer trope? And it makes zero sense to peddle it when they rejected the idea of “Norway Plus” and instead want a clean, triumphant, red white and blue, no deal, year zero brexit.
Norway is part of the EEA. The UK won’t be post brexit.
It’s actually a member of the EEA, the EFTA, the Nordic Council and the Schengen Area.
all of which Sweden are also members of.
Most road crossings between Norway and Sweden have customs checks. Those that do not have customs checks are not allowed to be used for transporting goods and are under surveillance for that reason.
Thanks RB – a shaft of light.
Norway is in the Single Market and Schengen.
this stuff is quite simple.
ffs Bodger are you attempting to gaslight us with Mick Fulcher tweet
Trying to gaslight the most successfully programmed/brainwashed population in the EU? I’m not a miracle worker.
It’s not good enough that you have every single media organisation on your side (see also: climate discussion). No one can be allowed question (or poke fun at) the orthodoxy.
I wouldn’t argue with you on that one.
I campaigned against both Nice and the Fiscal Treaty as part of your local SF TD’s team.
HA!
I knew you were one of Us ‘Talia
Mark Coughlan has the answer… https://twitter.com/Mark_Coughlan/status/1181853120940445697
Mick Fulcher is correct. Sasamachs are being lied to.
on twitter said: now we [the UK Brexit negotiators] are doing a good impression of a load of drunk teenagers wondering why they’re getting wet when they’re pissing into the wind, but at the same time threatening the wind how its going to get peed on.
beautiful
https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/10/how-number-10-view-the-state-of-the-negotiations/
worth a read
So you’re an exclusive Spectator reader then Brudder
lah dee dah
the times is reporting that the eu are to concede a time limit on the backstop to stormont.
The Times is wrong.
thanks BS for this post…snared on M50 and the line there tickled a cog & led me to a forgotten banging tune, happier for it ta!
https://youtu.be/rSaC-YbSDpo
:)
The picture of the Norway/Sweden border is very nice but it doesn’t include any of the goods vehicles that have to take about 20 minutes to be checked before they cross the border.
Apparently checks on goods lorries crossing the Swedish/Norway border rarely take more than 20 minutes. One of the main border crossings processes 1,300 goods vehicles a day.
But, on average, over 12,000 good vehicles cross the Irish border every day. Even if it took 10 minutes to check each goods vehicle and check documents it would take over 80 person days to check all of the vehicles. This would amount to about 250 staff.
However the Norway/Sweden border is highly efficient so 10 minutes is very optimistic – also trucks only have to stop once – not on both sides of the border.
Not to mention that Norway and Sweden have about 80 crossing points compared to over 300 between Ireland and Northern Ireland.
The France/Switzerland border has waits of between 20 minutes to 2 hours (depending on the level of checks).
Also last time I checked Norway and Sweden didn’t have a recent history of armed conflict, high levels of border smuggling, or currently active terrorist groups which would try to attack customs officers and border posts.
https://www.bordbia.ie/industry/insights/food-alert/understanding-the-swedish–norwegian-border-in-preparation-for-a-hard-brexit/