Ties That Bind

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Then Liberal Part MP Winston Churchill’s idea to promote ‘the temporary absence of the representation of Ulster’ in the event of Home Rule

Century Ireland writes:

Satirical magazine ‘Punch’ offers a tongue-in-cheek suggestion for how a border in Ireland might be created….

Churchill proposes partition of Ireland (Century Ireland)

Meanwhile...

Mick Fulcher writes:

Sweden is in the EU Norway isn’t.

And this is their idea of a ‘hard border’

Ever get the feeling you’re being lied to?

Anyone?

21 thoughts on “Ties That Bind

  1. RandomNoise

    Isn’t that Sweden/Norway meme a fairly common Brexiteer trope? And it makes zero sense to peddle it when they rejected the idea of “Norway Plus” and instead want a clean, triumphant, red white and blue, no deal, year zero brexit.

        1. ReproBertie

          Most road crossings between Norway and Sweden have customs checks. Those that do not have customs checks are not allowed to be used for transporting goods and are under surveillance for that reason.

    1. Bodger

      Trying to gaslight the most successfully programmed/brainwashed population in the EU? I’m not a miracle worker.

      1. Bodger

        It’s not good enough that you have every single media organisation on your side (see also: climate discussion). No one can be allowed question (or poke fun at) the orthodoxy.

      2. italia'90

        I wouldn’t argue with you on that one.
        I campaigned against both Nice and the Fiscal Treaty as part of your local SF TD’s team.

  2. Cian

    ‏ on twitter said: now we [the UK Brexit negotiators] are doing a good impression of a load of drunk teenagers wondering why they’re getting wet when they’re pissing into the wind, but at the same time threatening the wind how its going to get peed on.
    beautiful

  3. Brian

    The picture of the Norway/Sweden border is very nice but it doesn’t include any of the goods vehicles that have to take about 20 minutes to be checked before they cross the border.
    Apparently checks on goods lorries crossing the Swedish/Norway border rarely take more than 20 minutes. One of the main border crossings processes 1,300 goods vehicles a day.
    But, on average, over 12,000 good vehicles cross the Irish border every day. Even if it took 10 minutes to check each goods vehicle and check documents it would take over 80 person days to check all of the vehicles. This would amount to about 250 staff.
    However the Norway/Sweden border is highly efficient so 10 minutes is very optimistic – also trucks only have to stop once – not on both sides of the border.
    Not to mention that Norway and Sweden have about 80 crossing points compared to over 300 between Ireland and Northern Ireland.
    The France/Switzerland border has waits of between 20 minutes to 2 hours (depending on the level of checks).
    Also last time I checked Norway and Sweden didn’t have a recent history of armed conflict, high levels of border smuggling, or currently active terrorist groups which would try to attack customs officers and border posts.

    https://www.bordbia.ie/industry/insights/food-alert/understanding-the-swedish–norwegian-border-in-preparation-for-a-hard-brexit/

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