‘No Access At Any Time’

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Movement of Asylum Seekers in Ireland tweetz:

The M Hotel, former Treacys Hotel in Monaghan. In apartheid South Africa, white people and black people weren’t allowed to sit on same park bench. This is Ireland in 2019 where asylum seekers are forbidden to go into a bar, use main entrance, or sit with Irish people.

Meanwhile…

Last Friday evening…

Lucky Khambule, of MASI, on RTÉ News.

Related: Sarah McInerney: Direct provision strategy has made us withdraw our welcome for migrants (The Sunday Times)

24 thoughts on “‘No Access At Any Time’

  1. Shane Duffy

    Lucky needs a swig from a bottle of cop on. “…people are coming to Ireland to feel protected…” We cant even protect our own citizens, what planet is he on?

  2. Ted

    Don’t see any problem here. Paying customers don’t want to see “asylum seekers” hanging around while they are trying to enjoy themselves.
    The establishment also knows that groups of men loitering at the front door is not good for business, as people would feel intimidated while trying to get in.
    Well done to the business for taking a stand here and also being kind enough to allow these people to stay in their premises.

    1. Pee Pee

      ‘Paying customers don’t want to see “asylum seekers”’ You’re a horrible c word aren’t ya.

    2. Mick

      “Well done to the business for […] being kind enough to allow these people to stay in their premises.”

      They’re not getting paid, no? Just doing it of their own goodwill, is that it?

      FFS.
      You’re some c word.

    3. Daisy Chainsaw

      The asylum seekers room and board are paid for the same as the non asylum seekers in the hotel. Why should one guest be barred, but not another?

      And the “loitering men” thing is ridiculous. Men of all colours “loiter” everywhere. Is it only an issue if they’re not white? Are the men sitting in the bar together “loitering”?

      1. Ted

        Dont be so raci$t Daisy, nobody said anything about the colour of anybody’s skin except you.
        Has anyone actually asked why the business did this? Is it maybe because they have already had trouble with some of the resident, past or present.
        Doesn’t matter to most though because this just gives them an opportunity to shout.

    4. Padraig

      I think the point is more that who on earth would even stay in a “hotel” that had asylum seekers staying there. At that point, it has ceased to be a normal hotel and become some sort of halfway house. And even when they say they clear them out at Christmas or for concerts, you run the risk of being put in one of the rooms they were in. Just go and stay somewhere else.

  3. V

    Jesus Christ
    So residents (of drinking age) are being treated differently to walk in customers in the bar of the same facility?!?!?

    How the ___k is this not tackled by the Dept of Justice/ DPP

    1. Cian

      I suppose it depends on if they are drinking (spending money) or not.

      If anyone went into a bar and didn’t buy anything they would be asked to leave.
      If a resident of the hotel (habitually) went into a bar and didn’t buy anything they would be asked to leave.
      If a resident of the hotel, who is an asylum seeker, (habitually) went into a bar and didn’t buy anything they would be asked to leave.

      1. V

        Well then the Bar management would
        Or should
        Have a sign within the service area that says that no loitering / toilets for customers only sorta thing

  4. some old queen

    Some hotels housing Irish people in temporary accommodation have exactly the same rules- is that racist too?

    Am not saying it is right or even fair but it is a business and unless a hotel is going to turn the entire premises over to temporary accommodation- including asylum seekers- these sorts of situations are going to arise.

      1. some old queen

        Absolutely cruel but it could only be considered racist if the Albanians and the Georgians were allowed entrance while the Africans were not.

        As Eamon McCann once said about DuPont in Derry- ‘Those B@$t@rd$ aren’t sectarian, they’ll exploit anyone’ so let’s be clear- this government doesn’t give two poos about how the homeless are treated- Irish OR asylum seeker.

  5. Daisy Chainsaw

    No blacks, no dogs…

    The hotel will happily take the money, but if the room is paid for, then all guests should have access to all areas of the hotel. If I book a hotel room and I don’t go half board, I can still go into the restaurant for a coffee, or the bar for a drink. My access isn’t restricted, why should other people’s?

    1. Cian

      If the common area of the hotel you’re in is already full of other residents – then your access would be restricted. If the other residents are not buying food/drink but are preventing you from doing so, then the hotel will lose your business.

      The main difference between a regular hotel guest and an asylum seeker is that (generally) the regular hotel guest is out of the hotel most of the day (working/touristing). The asylum seeker has nothing to do, and no money to do it, so is more likely to be around the hotel.

      The main problem is that we are using hotels (designed for short-term stay) for long-term guests.

      1. some old queen

        Although I do know that when these people go to lunch once a week at another hotel in Carrick – they are also segregated.

        Just wondering- this is a general question- when someone’s appeal is rejected twice, are they still housed in DP or hotels?

        1. Padraig

          Jesus, I would love to be put in a hotel, all expense paid. Maybe I should leave the country, sneak back and suddenly the State will be happy to cover all my living expenses. Grand.

        2. some old queen

          When someone’s appeal is rejected twice, are they still housed in DP or hotels?

          Surely someone should know?

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