At The Central Criminal Court

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The late Anastasia Kriégel

Journalist Aoife-Grace Moore tweets:

One of two 15-year-old boys found guilty of murdering 14-year-old schoolgirl Ana Kriegel in Lucan, Co Dublin in 2018 has been sentenced in Dublin’s Central Criminal Court.

Boy A has been sentenced to life for murder and aggravated sexual assault, with a review period after 12 years.

Boy B will be given a headline sentence of 15 years detention for Ana Kriegel’s murder, with a review after eight years.

Ana Kriégel murder: Boy A sentenced to life, Boy B sentenced to 15 years (The Irish Times)

Previously: Verdict

26 thoughts on “At The Central Criminal Court

      1. dav

        Apologies and thanks for that.
        A previous comment to my own (now removed) was demanding the names of the guilty, presumably to incite mob justice against their families.

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      1. Dr_Chimp

        That shouldn’t matter. When most children are 12, they know that sexually assaulting and murdering another person in cold blood is not lawful. Not only should they be named for the shame attached to it, the public should be fully informed as to who is moving into their neighbourhood when these cretins eventually get out of prison.

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        1. Cú Chulainn

          If they develop a comprehension of what the did they won’t want to leave prison. And, if they don’t, they shouldn’t be ever left out.

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  1. Christopher

    It’s just so sad and numbing- these two boys don’t seem to have any genuine understanding or remorse for what they did and their families seem intent on getting released as soon as possible. How could you still love your son if you found out that he did this? There will be no justice for Ana and her family. Ever.

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    1. Cian

      You answered your question. They are family, and you support family.

      “There will be no justice for Ana and her family. Ever.” what do you mean? The two kids that killed Ana are in prison, and have lengthy sentences. Is that not justice? What justice would you propose?

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      1. Christopher

        Quit trolling and trying to put words in peoples mouths, I’m not biting. Head on over the the journal for that carryon.

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  2. Dr.Fart

    if they get out and theyre only 30 or younger, the minds they have, and what prison will do to them, will make them extremely dangerous.

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  3. Spud

    Genuinely would be very interested to know the sort of background these young boys had.
    Were they trouble in school?
    Were they bullied?
    What created the minds that did this?

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    1. missred

      There was a very good piece after the trial by Conor Gallagher in the Irish Times that goes through all what you mention, I suggest you have a read of it.

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      1. Kingfisher

        Conor Gallagher’s excellent piece puts the more serious question of what kind of society Ireland has become, and whether these children are, in fact, monstrous outliers – or not. From that piece:

        We may never be able to explain her death. Perhaps it’s a freak occurrence, a “perfect storm” of various factors, and not a sign of something wrong in society.

        Solicitor Gareth Noble isn’t so sure. “It’s really, really important we don’t rush to moral panic. But on the other hand we have to understand this has the potential not to be a once-off. And certainly while it appears to be at the most extreme end of things, I’ve seen cases that aren’t far short of it. They could have become this without the right interventions.”

        https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/ana-kriegel-murder-what-drove-two-teenage-boys-to-murder-a-14-year-old-girl-1.4073079

        If this solicitor is reporting truth from the front lines, then rather than concentrating our lip-licking rage on the two children, we urgently need to reboot our national values.

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        1. Kingfisher

          In the dawn of the internet era, perhaps 25 years ago, I was the go-to person to set up computers in my friends’ and neighbours’ homes. Each time, I had the same conversation:

          “Could you set it up in Conor’s/Suzy’s/Séadhna’s room?”

          “I certainly will not! You want to see what’s going on on that computer, and you don’t want your kid crouching in his/her room alone, hidden away from the family.”

          It sometimes took a bit of persuading, but the computers went into the public space.

          Today, that boat has sailed. Children get their own internet-ready phone at eight, and it’s like offering them a key to Hades.

          And children are increasingly passive, brought up to be waited on, to be ferried to school, to play under supervision – their natural need for adventure and challenge and the learning of judgment from acceptable levels of danger are suppressed and diverted into the stagnant channels of the Web

          Fintan O’Toole has a piece in today’s Irish Times about this secret life of our children:

          https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/fintan-o-toole-concern-over-hardcore-porn-is-not-moral-panic-1.4073484

          He writes: “if, a decade ago someone had proposed to flood the brains of adolescents with endless streams of extreme, misogynistic and addictive sexual imagery as an experiment to see what would happen in those brains, would this experiment have been countenanced for one second? And yet here we are, letting our kids spend their Confirmation money on devices that do exactly that. And we have also provided them with something most of their parents never had – private spaces in which to use them without supervision.”

          O’Toole concludes: “The Government should establish a citizens’ convention to hear evidence from experts in psychology, technology, and child protection and deliberate on what can be done to create those boundaries. It is time for us to be responsible adults.”

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  4. Tea And Brexits

    RIP Ana.

    And … fair play to Broadsheet for the decency and decorum displayed during the trial. Let’s not blow it now…

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    1. Chuckenstein

      Good point. The Journal are afraid to open comments. RIP, Ana. A tragic loss of such a beautiful and, by all accounts, vibrant, engaging and talented girl.

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