58 thoughts on “Saturday’s Papers

    1. Charlie

      It’s hard to bate Holohan the hooligan and great mate of McGregor. They could be the best double act since Laurel & Hardy.

  1. GiggidyGoo

    The Times makes grim reading. The excuse why police ignored the sexual abuse of children (the identity of the perpetrators) was ‘we can’t afford it coming out’ that they were asians, and it would cause ‘racial tensions’. That was 13 years ago, and only now are the police being brought to account.

    1. Charger Salmons

      The liberal UK Twittersphere have been whining themselves into a tantrum this week over the actor Laurence Fox’s anti-woke comments on Question Time.
      Not a peep about the shocking Asian grooming gangs story in Manchester.
      Imagine if they were Asian girls being groomed by white gangs …

    2. Clampers Outside

      +1 Giggidy and Charger… bunch of feckin’ woke far-leftist liberal social justice style censorship is what has caused this diabolical avoidance of truth and genuine justice.
      It is beyond doubt the result of so called far-leftist ‘social justice’ ideology where anyone, including the police, as demonstrated, can be prevented from doing theit job for fear of being called racist or fascist or any other slur. The irony is that this is real fascism by far-leftist ideologues who prefer the appearance of justice, ie social justice, to actual justice.

      1. Charger Salmons

        Mirrored in ways by the irish media’s attempts make immigration a forbidden subject of discussion in the election.
        The refusual to face uncomfortable truths is the hallmark of the woke liberals.

        1. Charger Salmons

          In much the same way as the media skirt around the fact that the current gang warfare in Drogheda and much of the armed violence in Ireland is very much a Traveller-related issue.
          And that the media in the UK avoid the uncomfortable truth that 90% of the murder victims and perpetrators of those crimes in London come from BAME or recently arrived immigrant backgrounds.

          1. ReproBertie

            “the current gang warfare in Drogheda and much of the armed violence in Ireland is very much a Traveller-related issue.“
            The feud hitting the headlines in Drogheda is 100% a drug related issue. Your comment is the sort of Ill-informed dog whistling that people are objecting to.

          2. ReproBertie

            In fairness, it’s hard to keep track of all the feuds going on. Luckily FG are “tough on crime” so once they get into power instead of the current shower, that’ll be sorted.

          3. Clampers Outside

            Are any of then tough on crime? I can’t imagine SF, the biggest of the small contenders, being tough on crime…

          4. ReproBertie

            The PDs? if McDowell has built his prison maybe we’d have some progress. Everything is underfunded though and promising tax cuts won’t provide extra funding,

        2. ReproBertie

          “ the irish media’s attempts make immigration a forbidden subject of discussion in the election.”

          I’ll take things that aren’t happening for 10.

        1. Clampers Outside

          And you’re ‘just saying’ nothing of any meaning at all, in fairness. Care to elaborate?

          1. V

            Rather than elaborate
            I’ll be more explicit

            When ye look like Laurence Fox lads
            We might give ye more attention then (˙❥˙)

            yeah I know, but in fairness, who wouldn’t, I’m only human

        2. Someone at Google Viewed Your Profile

          We all do look like Laurence Fox. From t’other side of buffet, pet.

          TRB –Never Gonna Fall in Love (Again):

          Cause everywhere there’s lots of foxes
          And every cat I meet’s a tom
          I wish he didn’t make me rabid
          I wish he wouldn’t turn me on

          1. Clampers Outside

            Afraid of increased “racial tensions” said the Police Chief… that fear, stoked by the woke and politically correct resulting in the Police fearing being labelled racist. It’s simple really.

          2. Nigel

            ‘Racial tensions’ have nothing whatsoever to do with ‘political correctness.’ As for accusing the police of racism, given what the Chief Inspector is supposed to have said, that sounds like it could be a fair cop. Racist police cover up grooming ring because they’re afriad of being called racist? Yeah, that looks like the fault of woke far left liberal social justice types.

          3. Nigel

            For the CI I’m going by what’s there on the front page of the paper, the very story you are referring to, and there is a general perception that the UK police have a problem with racism.

  2. bisted

    …ah Charger…I was relying on you to address the big question of the day – the Big Ben Bong…I have a solution for you…our national broadcaster, RTE, are coming to terms with the inexorable move towards a more secular society and could be persuaded to sell their call to prayer broadcast twice daily…your BBC could broadcast these bongs at 11pm daily…you could call them the Angelas…

    1. Charger Salmons

      Couldn’t give a monkeys about the Big Ben bongs to be honest old sport.
      I’ve no doubt there’ll be a bong or two in action at the little shindig I’m organising for January 31st along with a sumptous feast and quaffable vino collapso.
      Frankly I reckon the people ‘oop North who helped sweep Boris to power and consigned the Remainers to oblivion will merely raise a quiet glass in their local and say nowt.
      Those folk in that there London always were a little exictable.
      But happy days all round.
      Marvellous.

  3. Clampers Outside

    Nice timely piece from the WSJ on ‘political advertising’

    I particularly enjoyed and wholly agree with the section on online advertising, which references the Cambridge Analytica scandal as “pop psychology BS”.

    Remember that no one has ever produced one single iota of evidence that voters minds were changed by Cambridge Analytica – no one…. zilch, nada, nuffin’

    The piece covers everything from canvassing and mail drops to TV and online advertising –
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/do-political-campaigns-change-voters-minds-11579282258

    1. ReproBertie

      How would that evidence be gathered? Wouldn’t they have to know people’s opinions before they were subjected to all the targeted advertising?

      I have a friend who’s a bit of a hippy. Over the past few years he’s progressed from sharing videos of hippy gatherings and ancient spiritual beliefs to sharing anti-vax videos, wi-fi causes cancer videos and, lately, videos questioning the numbers in the holocaust. I am in no doubt that he is being radicalised (for want of a better word) by targeted links on social media and YouTube’s dodgy “recommended videos” algorithm. It doesn’t happen overnight but it definitely happens.

      1. Clampers Outside

        I hear ya. And as per your story, it didn’t happen overnight. How long was Cambridge Analytica operating these campaigns? Certainly not as long as your friend. Also, there is the mindset of an individual, like your friend, one who is ‘actively seeking’ out as opposed to CA’s advertising model targeting a ‘passive receptor’.
        People do not actively seek to receive advertising, but receive advertising passively (including interactive advertising).

      2. Clampers Outside

        On your original questions at the top, yes. Thing is that any time research is done where they do know answers to all those questions the results show tiny effects.

        Remember to, of course the pink haired fella was going to claim his “magic algorithm” could change minds and the like…. if it were true, every multi-million dollar ad agency would be banging on his door for a look at his Willy Wonka type fantasy ticket to advertising heaven…. it was always overblown bullpoo.

    1. Cian

      That harp symbol watermark on the video on the Irish independent website is identical to the harp symbol of the Irish independent.

      Are the Irish independent breaking the law by using the harp as their logo?
      Or do you want to rethink your position?

      1. GiggidyGoo

        You tell me. The Harp emblem on a political video, whether put there by the political party, or inserted by their mouthpiece – what do you think eh Cian. If they’ve added it to the political video then would you consider the law is being broken?

  4. Cian

    I think you’re doubling down on stupid.

    A harp emblem isn’t restricted.

    Look at Guinness, Ryanair, the indo, Leinster, even Fianna Fail uses a harp. They all have harps as their logo. And yes, there is also a government harp (it’s on tbe coinage too). That one specific harp is copyrighted to the government. But the others belong to other people.

    But the harp on the video you linked to looks nothing like the government harp. It looks like the iirish ndependent’s logo. And gosh. It’s on the Irish independent website. So at a guess, the indo put their logo on the video they are hosting.

    1. GiggidyGoo

      ‘looks nothing like the government harp’. Looks like a guitar then? Talk about doubling down on stupid.
      I agree though that it’s not exactly like the government harp. However the placing of it onto a government video does give the impression that the government placed the harp onto it – like it or not. I’m sure the electorate don’t go into the finer detail of how many strings are on the … guitar ….. sorry, harp.

      1. Cian

        The Irish independent ALWAYS put their logo on the videos they host. The irish independamt logo is a HARP.

        Jeez can’t you just admit you were wrong? Or will you, somehow, blame FG for that too?

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