…those Mercs aren’t going to drive themselves V…not even the green ones…
realPolithicks
If the greens go into coalition with FFG it will be a colossal betrayal of the people who voted for them, I hope they’re not just grasp at “power” like the last time.
MaryLou's ArmaLite
It is the only sensible and workable government, a SF led rainbow coalition won’t make it past the first budget
Brother Barnabas
would though likely be playing into SF’s hands in the long run
theyll come back with 50 seats next time out if FF and FG finally drop the flimsy pretence that there’s any difference between them
…the greens have already voted to go into government with anyone who can form a government…vote green, get FFG…
Golden Balls
Plus one
We need stability now
01101101 01100011
Hi real
well I fear for them (Greens)
FFG only started with the Green stuff when it got popular and it would seem from what I’m reading to be incompatible with the interests that sit above the FFG construct. their love for Green matters is manufactured and definitely not genuine. in the same way I’d argue that FFG’s interest in sorting out the Housing issue is not genuine. Incompatible. the difference I would say from a FFG pov is that Green matters might appear to be a softer issue to solve. easier to make up some poo about carbon credits blah blah than dig out a site for houses and upset your landowning friends whilst doing it, hm?
I really don’t think that this will be what the people voted for
but from what I can see (albeit uneducated political eye here, ok) it’s a FFG+G and I’d suspect its already a done deal too
I’d love to know what the utter obsession with “having a government” is though??
That talk has already started in my own house….”but SOMEONE has to make a Government”…like if we don’t we’re gonna run out of oxygen or something?! surely it’s the core permanent admin lads under these elected reps that are the actual engine? I read that Belgium had no Govt for 541 days from as recently as back in 2010 and they don’t seem to have fallen apart.
Shayna
Kinda the same, but not entirely different – the lights were on at Stormont, but no-one (MLAs) for over 3 years were at home. The lads, as you put it – civil servants ran the six counties part of Ireland with a govenment in absentia. And to be fair, it was grand. Actually, better than grand – local news in the North – little comment from politicians, nor did they appear on local tv as much – kinda bliss! Now they’ve graced us with their presence again – what’s back on the agenda – the burning issue – Flags? Homeless types sleeping in doorways in city/town centres, types that turn up in hospitals and expect to be seen within a reasonable time (0-4 hours) will be relieved that the Gov are sorting out the flags crisis.
01101101 01100011
Hi Shayna
interesting, as I think the system is the problem I would venture that you may have some demonstrated evidence right there
hm, tension keeps the thing alive, doesn’t it? a bit like how the solar system works lol
I don’t think so
Going in with the FF-FG axis puts the Greens exactly where they want to be
In Government
Even if it’s just a handful of Minor Ministerials
That gives them substance and not just the lucky beneficiaries of a teenage led protest, with the convenient timing of a wave that created the perfect storm with thousands and thousands of surplus transfers.
An FFFG GRN government will get the full five years
And give the Greens plenty of time to establish a stronger National Base and groom solid Candidates.
They’d be fools not to take advantage
Although my preference, from a Strategic pov, is for a FF led with SF in Minority, principally to allow Mary Lou get to know and develop SFs parliamentary party, do some internal housekeeping, and source new Ministerial standard Candidates that can put them in a position to Campaign for a Majority next time out
Charlie
You can always rely on the Star to instill daily terror and fear into the scrotes.
paul
fear and boners.
01101101 01100011
I find the lack of coverage in our papers on COVID-19 very interesting
I wonder what controls (if any) are going on at Dublin Airport? Are they watching population flow to and fro other countries in EU for example as yet or even thought about it?
You’re a great commenter and addition to the site OU812
01101101 01100011
Hi Golden, thanks
I’d say and hope I don’t belong in any specific box tho
if that’s what your prism tells you then good for you :)
its all just data to me
Lilly
Why the name change, I wonder. Did the people at Corona beer kick up? I’m glad Irish media keeping coverage to a minimum. This is the kind of thing children are hyper alert to and they worry away in the background.
dav
hi Lilly “Corona” was the type of virus, there have been other corona virus before and there will be more corona virus in the future, it just took them this long to provide a name to it.
Mick
What dav said.
SARS was a corona virus, for example. This was called a novel corona virus until a better identifying name was created for it.
Lilly
Ah ha, thanks Dav and Mick.
GiggidyGoo
FFGG Government.
Doubtful, given the Greens decimation a short few years ago, courtesy of their hunger for ‘power’ and FF riding them. If the Green Party had any notion of trustworthiness anyway, they would re-instate their history on their website, rather than have people find it courtesy of the wayback machine.
But the point to take away from even the suggestion of a FFGG government, is that the only reason FFG would do it is to keep SF out of power.
Shayna
It’s pretty evident that this is the case. An Taoiseach was very casual about offering Sinn Féin adice about what their next steps should be in forming a Government – keep to the left. Arrogance and smugness dripped onto his comedy socks
…the big dilemma for FFG is how to keep the shinners from forming the opposition…the best they’ve managed to come up with so far is to facilitate the shinners to form a minority government…I would like to wish FFG well with this…
Shayna
Someone’s got to kiss the ring – funny, I’ve heard no mention yet of king maker – a reliable cliché in these scenarios. The Election results show that change is wanted in Ireland. Sinn Féin are sticking to their guns (unfortunate turn of phrase) and talking to similar left leaning parties. It’s going to be stalemate – again, in my opinion.
Charger Salmons
Yet according to the Irish Times this week ” it’s a glorious triumph for Irish democracy. ”
Delusional.
Charlie
Coz the Irish Times is the bible? We don’t need to read any sensational headlines or journalists verbal self indulgent tripe to know what this election means other than people being fed up with the present regime. It has little to do with a deep desire for the Shinners(other than the scrotes). It’ll be the same old same old. Nothing to see here.
Rob_G
@ Shayna – I’m pretty sure that Mary Lou used to give Leo advice all the time when he was in government; now that it looks like he will be leaving and she might be going in, why wouldn’t he return the favour?
It’s all kicking off in Westminster.
The Saj gets ambushed by Classic Dom.There was only ever going to be one winner.
Boris enjoying his 80-seat majority.
Charger Salmons
And it’s all kicking off Stateside.
Two silverbacks slugging it out to become POTUS.
This is going to need a JCB full of popcorn over the next few months.
Ah now John ( Lee -@Ire.Mail)
FF FG Grn a surprise
C’mon
Be serious
Who are ya trying to cod
…those Mercs aren’t going to drive themselves V…not even the green ones…
If the greens go into coalition with FFG it will be a colossal betrayal of the people who voted for them, I hope they’re not just grasp at “power” like the last time.
It is the only sensible and workable government, a SF led rainbow coalition won’t make it past the first budget
would though likely be playing into SF’s hands in the long run
theyll come back with 50 seats next time out if FF and FG finally drop the flimsy pretence that there’s any difference between them
…the greens have already voted to go into government with anyone who can form a government…vote green, get FFG…
Plus one
We need stability now
Hi real
well I fear for them (Greens)
FFG only started with the Green stuff when it got popular and it would seem from what I’m reading to be incompatible with the interests that sit above the FFG construct. their love for Green matters is manufactured and definitely not genuine. in the same way I’d argue that FFG’s interest in sorting out the Housing issue is not genuine. Incompatible. the difference I would say from a FFG pov is that Green matters might appear to be a softer issue to solve. easier to make up some poo about carbon credits blah blah than dig out a site for houses and upset your landowning friends whilst doing it, hm?
I really don’t think that this will be what the people voted for
but from what I can see (albeit uneducated political eye here, ok) it’s a FFG+G and I’d suspect its already a done deal too
I’d love to know what the utter obsession with “having a government” is though??
That talk has already started in my own house….”but SOMEONE has to make a Government”…like if we don’t we’re gonna run out of oxygen or something?! surely it’s the core permanent admin lads under these elected reps that are the actual engine? I read that Belgium had no Govt for 541 days from as recently as back in 2010 and they don’t seem to have fallen apart.
Kinda the same, but not entirely different – the lights were on at Stormont, but no-one (MLAs) for over 3 years were at home. The lads, as you put it – civil servants ran the six counties part of Ireland with a govenment in absentia. And to be fair, it was grand. Actually, better than grand – local news in the North – little comment from politicians, nor did they appear on local tv as much – kinda bliss! Now they’ve graced us with their presence again – what’s back on the agenda – the burning issue – Flags? Homeless types sleeping in doorways in city/town centres, types that turn up in hospitals and expect to be seen within a reasonable time (0-4 hours) will be relieved that the Gov are sorting out the flags crisis.
Hi Shayna
interesting, as I think the system is the problem I would venture that you may have some demonstrated evidence right there
hm, tension keeps the thing alive, doesn’t it? a bit like how the solar system works lol
I don’t think so
Going in with the FF-FG axis puts the Greens exactly where they want to be
In Government
Even if it’s just a handful of Minor Ministerials
That gives them substance and not just the lucky beneficiaries of a teenage led protest, with the convenient timing of a wave that created the perfect storm with thousands and thousands of surplus transfers.
An FFFG GRN government will get the full five years
And give the Greens plenty of time to establish a stronger National Base and groom solid Candidates.
They’d be fools not to take advantage
Although my preference, from a Strategic pov, is for a FF led with SF in Minority, principally to allow Mary Lou get to know and develop SFs parliamentary party, do some internal housekeeping, and source new Ministerial standard Candidates that can put them in a position to Campaign for a Majority next time out
You can always rely on the Star to instill daily terror and fear into the scrotes.
fear and boners.
I find the lack of coverage in our papers on COVID-19 very interesting
I wonder what controls (if any) are going on at Dublin Airport? Are they watching population flow to and fro other countries in EU for example as yet or even thought about it?
here’s a goto dashboard for this subjectmatter:
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
You’re a great commenter and addition to the site OU812
Hi Golden, thanks
I’d say and hope I don’t belong in any specific box tho
if that’s what your prism tells you then good for you :)
its all just data to me
Why the name change, I wonder. Did the people at Corona beer kick up? I’m glad Irish media keeping coverage to a minimum. This is the kind of thing children are hyper alert to and they worry away in the background.
hi Lilly “Corona” was the type of virus, there have been other corona virus before and there will be more corona virus in the future, it just took them this long to provide a name to it.
What dav said.
SARS was a corona virus, for example. This was called a novel corona virus until a better identifying name was created for it.
Ah ha, thanks Dav and Mick.
FFGG Government.
Doubtful, given the Greens decimation a short few years ago, courtesy of their hunger for ‘power’ and FF riding them. If the Green Party had any notion of trustworthiness anyway, they would re-instate their history on their website, rather than have people find it courtesy of the wayback machine.
But the point to take away from even the suggestion of a FFGG government, is that the only reason FFG would do it is to keep SF out of power.
It’s pretty evident that this is the case. An Taoiseach was very casual about offering Sinn Féin adice about what their next steps should be in forming a Government – keep to the left. Arrogance and smugness dripped onto his comedy socks
…the big dilemma for FFG is how to keep the shinners from forming the opposition…the best they’ve managed to come up with so far is to facilitate the shinners to form a minority government…I would like to wish FFG well with this…
Someone’s got to kiss the ring – funny, I’ve heard no mention yet of king maker – a reliable cliché in these scenarios. The Election results show that change is wanted in Ireland. Sinn Féin are sticking to their guns (unfortunate turn of phrase) and talking to similar left leaning parties. It’s going to be stalemate – again, in my opinion.
Yet according to the Irish Times this week ” it’s a glorious triumph for Irish democracy. ”
Delusional.
Coz the Irish Times is the bible? We don’t need to read any sensational headlines or journalists verbal self indulgent tripe to know what this election means other than people being fed up with the present regime. It has little to do with a deep desire for the Shinners(other than the scrotes). It’ll be the same old same old. Nothing to see here.
@ Shayna – I’m pretty sure that Mary Lou used to give Leo advice all the time when he was in government; now that it looks like he will be leaving and she might be going in, why wouldn’t he return the favour?
Maybe he should have taken the advice at 3:09 in this. https://youtu.be/mJAQlIXSaKY
It’s all kicking off in Westminster.
The Saj gets ambushed by Classic Dom.There was only ever going to be one winner.
Boris enjoying his 80-seat majority.
And it’s all kicking off Stateside.
Two silverbacks slugging it out to become POTUS.
This is going to need a JCB full of popcorn over the next few months.
https://twitter.com/MikeBloomberg/status/1227951551068721154