A good read in the guardian offering a bit of clarity around coronavirus. Concise and to the point. Worth taking a look.
deluded
… I’ve lifted this from somewhere else…
WHO: it’s important to wash your hands regularly and thoroughly
Public: we got all these face masks.
WHO: eh no, they’re not effective unless you are a health care worker dealing wi…
Public: no more chinese food for us!
WHO: what? no, clean your hands, no touching your face…
Public: rubbing eyes and nose vigorously- and we’re not drinking Corona beer either!
WHO: ????
Formerly known as @ireland.com
Will every territory have to follow a Wuhan/Lombardy strategy, to get on top of the virus?
Shayna
A tad arrogant of FF to call, “Bring in Sinn Féin”. Share the blame?
They need the numbers
SF + FF + GRN
37 + 37 + 12 = 86
Is the only way, and it’s the most representative, and in fairness, the most secure Government we could hope for
If the eFFers want to pull a fast one
FF + FG + L + Lowry, Naughten, Grealish, and mebbe Verona
Brings them to 81 / 82 – and nothing but grief, and a long slow death
Nothing arrogant about low key eFFers and Shinners asking for a bitta cop on
I tell ya what is arrogant
Is all the lads on the left, RBB & Co, insisting that they be allowed form a Government between themselves and Sinn Fein
Shayna
I make no apologies for being a Sinn Féin type. On local levels they get stuff done. Cllr Brendan Doris (Michelle O’Neill’s dad) got the local council to install street lighting and a pavement in a rural area of Tyrone. It’s not exciting politics, but SF did it – it’s saved lives (people were killed walking down the road, unlit).
The, “arrogance” of FF refers to, somehow they’re in charge?
But shur’ I’m a Sinn Fein type meself
And it’s all about getting results and outcomes at local Constituency level
For all Candidates and elected Reps
Always was
So I suppose all those newly elected SF TDs – especially those rejected only last May in the Locals, better ensure they’re something to remember next time out.
Shayna
Yeah sure, V – except Sinn Féin aren’t in Government – which was my point.
Cian
It’s not the only way:
FG + FF + GRN
35 + 37 + 12 = 84
Politically these three are closer than SF-FF-Green
We have had a stable FG-ind-FF for that last 4 years…
GiggidyGoo
There’s stable governance in North Korea Cian. What’s your point?
But one disaster after another
None of which
From RB to NCH to the Homeless and Accommodation Crisis can ye deny
And dozens more
Where ineptitude and self-interest wasn’t present
FFFGGRN for the next five years will be stable
But also yere obituary
And FFs and the Greens
But hey
As long as it gets ye another term of Ministers
Who else but those same Blueshirts and their connected others gives a flying duck
Cian
Do you honestly believe that a SF-FF-green government would somehow be less inept? Their TDs are just better? And they will manage to solve all of Ireland’s ills (And keep the economy tiping on)?
Sure why don’t you print out some copies of the table and hang them up in the hostels/hotels and every A&E across the country so the people struggling know how good they have it.
Rob_G
When presented with facts against her facile and stupid argument, V goes for the most childish, lowest-common denominator response possible
* S L O W H A N D C L A P
@yep – not everything is perfect, sure. But the fact that there are 186 countries worse off than Ireland gives lie to the silly statement that a new government “can’t do any worse”.
In many other countries, being homeless means living in an actual gutter; in Ireland, it normally means living in a hotel or a B&B – far from ideal, but a bit of perspective is useful.
FG in Feb 50 seats, FG in March 35 seats. 30% loss of seats. Now that’s tumbleweed.
And SF’s meetings around the country full houses+, while FG and FF have the fear of facing the electorate and have no such contact.
Lad Leo showing his true capabilities now. Which show why he failed as a doctor, as a minister in a number of offices, and a Taoiseach. A coward. Unwilling to take advice from the professionals ( and Holohan isn’t one of them)
FG are making sure this country is hit badly with this virus.
In fairness, I don’t think FG are making sure this country is hit badly with this virus
Is entirely accurate
I reckon their incompetence, and failures in Government, and all around the Cabinet table,
Let’s see
from Naughten’s handling of the RB Tender, Harris’s Cervical Check to NCH, Frances Fitzes M McCabe stitch up, Regina’s PSC Argy bargy with The Data Commissioner
Then all along the party benches and beyond – Murphys Eoghan, Dara, and Verona being just one surname in common
Meanwhile Leo was tweeting about his socks
And Enda before him was too busy trying to hide Michael Noonan from everyone. Grace Case, Vulture Funds + ++
COVID 19 is only a minor player in the Country being brought to a standstill in the next week
The chaos is entirely manmade
By FG ineptitude, arrogance and self entitlement
Oh for the want of a Strategic Communications Unit to make it all pretty
It just shows how Ireland has grown up and matured when jobs or Tiocfidh Brits Out talk can’t be used to plamauss the people anymore
some old queen
Dramatic effect of coronavirus lockdowns seen from space.
The air above China cleaned up faster than ever before in living memory.
Russian will only admit when they have to, Chernobyl, Kursk …
scottser
I believe in Germany it’s down to a mainly pork diet, in addition to cheap, quality beer and that mayonnaise they put on their chips.
The Russians are just liars.
Lush
Verbatim
Happy to hear this and to know that they have the power, if need be… scary stuff this Coronavirus
“Until 3 April, people will be barred from entering or leaving vast areas of northern Italy without a serious and urgent reason to do so, according to a decree signed off by the prime minister overnight and published online.”
And the opposite, basically, here. Cowardly ‘leadership’. The ‘fifth count’ taoiseach.
Cian
You’re totally delusional if you think that Italy is doing a better job than Ireland.
GiggidyGoo
(see other comment below)
Additionally, it took Italy quite a while to learn, yet our Doctor Varadkar hasn’t learnt from Italy’s mistakes and finds no issue with large gatherings, curtailment of travel, non-testing of arrivals from Italy.
When it finally comes down to actual leadership, not confidence and supply, the proof of the pudding is laid bare. Varadkar is all of a coward and a clown.
Cathal
They are doing something, what has Ireland done, put the price of Dettol up?
MountainTalk
@cian
Your delusional to think otherwise. We had the jump on (wuhan) Italy. But zero PRO-ACTIVE response. Understand HSE-MEDICAL is treatment. Social policy is prevention. No flight restrictions. No screenings. No quarantines. No protective wear issued, frontline workers (tranport etc). Hotspot info suppressed. Biggest public festival of the year still on ??? Here’s something interesting. 1918 San Francisco was the only place on Earth to minimise the Spanish Flu. Why! Proactive prevention. Rather than what we have : reaction. I mean can you explain a doctor. Flying back. Not Screened. Working all night in a hospital.
Cian
Can you provide evidence that “San Francisco was the only place on Earth to minimise the Spanish Flu.”?
The Italian government has now realized the significance of this and has taken decisive action. What similar decisive action have the boys Harris and Varadkar taken? Roll put the sneak Holohan? Sorry the ‘cover up the cervical cancer disaster Holohan’.
No wonder Varadkar managed to lose 30% of the seats, building on Kenny’s loss of 35%.
And the rat-a-tat Boy Harris? Not speedy Gonzales with his pronouncements these days.
GiggidyGoo
‘ O’Callaghan urged to oust Martin ‘
I must say……that’s a case of extreme ROFL.
O’Callaghan?
If the eFFers are going to insist on a shouty ProLifer to be their next leader
It won’t be McGuiness
GiggidyGoo
Yes, but that referendum has been run. From a capability point of view and a notion of honesty point of view (McCabe) and a fairly straight talking point of view (calling out Commissioner Callaghan), it’ll be difficult to find a leader more qualified to rebuild trust in the party by the electorate. It might instill a sense of meaning into the party – something good to try achieve.
Somehow I don’t see anyone else that has qualities of that kind.
GiggidyGoo
Dimmy isn’t an elected representative anymore. Not sure whether that would preclude him from being party leader – i doubt he could be but i’m not that well up on it.
Anna
Another Sunday, another British Royal photo on front of Irish Mail on Sunday. It really is amazing they can’t put some Irish photo on their front page!
Cathal
The FG mantra that profit must be protected above anything else will lead to many deaths from Covid 19.
some old queen
Italy is already making decisions on who receives Intensive Care based on age- and the same will happen here.
The inaction from this government is shocking.
GiggidyGoo
The UK has a ‘Three Wise Men’ approach if the worst comes to the worst.
It’ll all be down to survival of the freshest, healthiest meat.
Ringsend Incinerator
Oh it will definitely be allocated on the basis of age here – the usual over 65 bed blockers will get it all, – most of it for free. They’re the ones keeping the current shower in power. Younger people will be banjaxed as usual.
some old queen
Nope- allocation will be on the basis of who is most likely to survive and, it will happen sooner than in Italy because they have a full NHS.
Charger’s very quiet. Another over-65 taken from us?
GiggidyGoo
Has been very quiet the past week or so. Maybe the Bean Savage overdosed on the staple diet? Or burnt his willie ironing his Union Jocks in preparation for the visit of the freeloaders.
some old queen
Stupidity sometimes manifests itself as intelligence.
Ringsend Incinerator
Coronationvirus?
Get well, regardless, if so.
some old queen
We have the DEEP CLEAN media bullpoo again- same as after Mehole Martin was gong to charge you two grand for having a fag indoors.
Ringsend Incinerator
whatever you agree with a consenting adult behind closed doors should be free.
some old queen
As a protected species I am deeply offended by your hateful comment- expect a visit at your place of work from an Garda Síochána Emergency Response Unit TODAY.
Ah here
You’d swear all those new nurses were starting on Monday
Try September
At the earliest
Assuming they get accomodation sorted
Childcare, schools
f’ning eejits think we’re bigger eejits
Unfreeze the embargo on that Strategic Communications Unit there for Leo and the boys
FFS
Before we start feeling sorry for the __ckers
ere V- did ya here about the fella who got bitten by a tick? He has Corona with Lyme.
https://thecoronas.net/ on a world tour? Packed out I bet.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/07/is-coronavirus-mutating-into-a-more-deadly-strain-face-masks-covid-19-myths-busted
A good read in the guardian offering a bit of clarity around coronavirus. Concise and to the point. Worth taking a look.
… I’ve lifted this from somewhere else…
WHO: it’s important to wash your hands regularly and thoroughly
Public: we got all these face masks.
WHO: eh no, they’re not effective unless you are a health care worker dealing wi…
Public: no more chinese food for us!
WHO: what? no, clean your hands, no touching your face…
Public: rubbing eyes and nose vigorously- and we’re not drinking Corona beer either!
WHO: ????
Will every territory have to follow a Wuhan/Lombardy strategy, to get on top of the virus?
A tad arrogant of FF to call, “Bring in Sinn Féin”. Share the blame?
They need the numbers
SF + FF + GRN
37 + 37 + 12 = 86
Is the only way, and it’s the most representative, and in fairness, the most secure Government we could hope for
If the eFFers want to pull a fast one
FF + FG + L + Lowry, Naughten, Grealish, and mebbe Verona
Brings them to 81 / 82 – and nothing but grief, and a long slow death
Nothing arrogant about low key eFFers and Shinners asking for a bitta cop on
I tell ya what is arrogant
Is all the lads on the left, RBB & Co, insisting that they be allowed form a Government between themselves and Sinn Fein
I make no apologies for being a Sinn Féin type. On local levels they get stuff done. Cllr Brendan Doris (Michelle O’Neill’s dad) got the local council to install street lighting and a pavement in a rural area of Tyrone. It’s not exciting politics, but SF did it – it’s saved lives (people were killed walking down the road, unlit).
The, “arrogance” of FF refers to, somehow they’re in charge?
But shur’ I’m a Sinn Fein type meself
And it’s all about getting results and outcomes at local Constituency level
For all Candidates and elected Reps
Always was
So I suppose all those newly elected SF TDs – especially those rejected only last May in the Locals, better ensure they’re something to remember next time out.
Yeah sure, V – except Sinn Féin aren’t in Government – which was my point.
It’s not the only way:
FG + FF + GRN
35 + 37 + 12 = 84
Politically these three are closer than SF-FF-Green
We have had a stable FG-ind-FF for that last 4 years…
There’s stable governance in North Korea Cian. What’s your point?
It might have been stable Cian
But one disaster after another
None of which
From RB to NCH to the Homeless and Accommodation Crisis can ye deny
And dozens more
Where ineptitude and self-interest wasn’t present
FFFGGRN for the next five years will be stable
But also yere obituary
And FFs and the Greens
But hey
As long as it gets ye another term of Ministers
Who else but those same Blueshirts and their connected others gives a flying duck
Do you honestly believe that a SF-FF-green government would somehow be less inept? Their TDs are just better? And they will manage to solve all of Ireland’s ills (And keep the economy tiping on)?
Well they can’t do any worse
ಠ_ʖಠ
Well they can’t do any worse
famous last words :(
“Well they can’t do any worse”
– hyperbolic, fact-free nonsense from V., as per usual.
http://hdr.undp.org/en/content/human-development-index-hdi
Spoiler: we’re #3…
Redundant nonsense as per usual from YFGer Rob_G.
I hope ye two are paying rent here
For Product Placement like
Here; do yerselves a favour
https://twitter.com/bigthink/status/1235587280204595208?s=19
@ Rob
Sure why don’t you print out some copies of the table and hang them up in the hostels/hotels and every A&E across the country so the people struggling know how good they have it.
When presented with facts against her facile and stupid argument, V goes for the most childish, lowest-common denominator response possible
* S L O W H A N D C L A P
@yep – not everything is perfect, sure. But the fact that there are 186 countries worse off than Ireland gives lie to the silly statement that a new government “can’t do any worse”.
In many other countries, being homeless means living in an actual gutter; in Ireland, it normally means living in a hotel or a B&B – far from ideal, but a bit of perspective is useful.
Mnah mnah doo doooo da do doo
Shinners in Jan and Feb: we should be in government.
Shinners in March **tumbleweed**
…I think you’ll find they haven’t gone away…
Any truth in the rumour that Dermot Desmond is joining SF? He was extolling the virtues of SFs housing policies in the Times https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/dermot-desmond-everyone-has-a-right-to-a-home-here-is-how-it-can-be-done-1.4195439?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Fopinion%2Fdermot-desmond-everyone-has-a-right-to-a-home-here-is-how-it-can-be-done-1.4195439
Mywiam though is having him on today to retract what he’s written.
FG in Feb 50 seats, FG in March 35 seats. 30% loss of seats. Now that’s tumbleweed.
And SF’s meetings around the country full houses+, while FG and FF have the fear of facing the electorate and have no such contact.
Lad Leo showing his true capabilities now. Which show why he failed as a doctor, as a minister in a number of offices, and a Taoiseach. A coward. Unwilling to take advice from the professionals ( and Holohan isn’t one of them)
FG are making sure this country is hit badly with this virus.
In fairness, I don’t think
FG are making sure this country is hit badly with this virus
Is entirely accurate
I reckon their incompetence, and failures in Government, and all around the Cabinet table,
Let’s see
from Naughten’s handling of the RB Tender, Harris’s Cervical Check to NCH, Frances Fitzes M McCabe stitch up, Regina’s PSC Argy bargy with The Data Commissioner
Then all along the party benches and beyond – Murphys Eoghan, Dara, and Verona being just one surname in common
Meanwhile Leo was tweeting about his socks
And Enda before him was too busy trying to hide Michael Noonan from everyone. Grace Case, Vulture Funds + ++
COVID 19 is only a minor player in the Country being brought to a standstill in the next week
The chaos is entirely manmade
By FG ineptitude, arrogance and self entitlement
Oh for the want of a Strategic Communications Unit to make it all pretty
It just shows how Ireland has grown up and matured when jobs or Tiocfidh Brits Out talk can’t be used to plamauss the people anymore
Dramatic effect of coronavirus lockdowns seen from space.
The air above China cleaned up faster than ever before in living memory.
https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-changes-pollution-over-china.html
Also other good news- the level of other viruses and diseases being spread is likely to decrease because of improved hygiene practices.
That is very educational. Does show why a lot of chinese people in those areas wear masks at the best of times.
How come no deaths in Germany?
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
And what are Russia doing to keep their infection rates so low?
I’ve been wondering about Russia.
How come no deaths in Germany?
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
And why Russia so low?
Russian will only admit when they have to, Chernobyl, Kursk …
I believe in Germany it’s down to a mainly pork diet, in addition to cheap, quality beer and that mayonnaise they put on their chips.
The Russians are just liars.
Happy to hear this and to know that they have the power, if need be… scary stuff this Coronavirus
The Garda Commissioner has said he does not expect officers to need to use their powers to detain people who refuse to self-isolate due to the coronavirus.
https://www.newstalk.com/news/covid-19-harris-detention-978927?fbclid=IwAR3IKbDsWEk7y9M_bMN3mpukWv91h6eit2awHhZZPm8KCWnTrlv1a4CvvqA
“Until 3 April, people will be barred from entering or leaving vast areas of northern Italy without a serious and urgent reason to do so, according to a decree signed off by the prime minister overnight and published online.”
And the opposite, basically, here. Cowardly ‘leadership’. The ‘fifth count’ taoiseach.
You’re totally delusional if you think that Italy is doing a better job than Ireland.
(see other comment below)
Additionally, it took Italy quite a while to learn, yet our Doctor Varadkar hasn’t learnt from Italy’s mistakes and finds no issue with large gatherings, curtailment of travel, non-testing of arrivals from Italy.
When it finally comes down to actual leadership, not confidence and supply, the proof of the pudding is laid bare. Varadkar is all of a coward and a clown.
They are doing something, what has Ireland done, put the price of Dettol up?
@cian
Your delusional to think otherwise. We had the jump on (wuhan) Italy. But zero PRO-ACTIVE response. Understand HSE-MEDICAL is treatment. Social policy is prevention. No flight restrictions. No screenings. No quarantines. No protective wear issued, frontline workers (tranport etc). Hotspot info suppressed. Biggest public festival of the year still on ??? Here’s something interesting. 1918 San Francisco was the only place on Earth to minimise the Spanish Flu. Why! Proactive prevention. Rather than what we have : reaction. I mean can you explain a doctor. Flying back. Not Screened. Working all night in a hospital.
Can you provide evidence that “San Francisco was the only place on Earth to minimise the Spanish Flu.”?
this https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/A-city-of-masks-When-the-flu-tore-through-San-6499265.php says In retrospect, the mask order was largely ineffective. Hassler boasted that San Francisco’s response to the flu was exemplary, but he was wrong: The city had one of the highest per-capita death tolls of any American city.
That, of course, wouldn’t be the most important point that MountainTalk was making now would it?
It was their main point. So if San Fran didn’t avoid the flu then their point in kinda moot.
And 20 nurses now in quarantine as a result…..
The Italian government has now realized the significance of this and has taken decisive action. What similar decisive action have the boys Harris and Varadkar taken? Roll put the sneak Holohan? Sorry the ‘cover up the cervical cancer disaster Holohan’.
No wonder Varadkar managed to lose 30% of the seats, building on Kenny’s loss of 35%.
And the rat-a-tat Boy Harris? Not speedy Gonzales with his pronouncements these days.
‘ O’Callaghan urged to oust Martin ‘
I must say……that’s a case of extreme ROFL.
O’Callaghan?
John McGuinness is your man.
If the eFFers are going to insist on a shouty ProLifer to be their next leader
It won’t be McGuiness
Yes, but that referendum has been run. From a capability point of view and a notion of honesty point of view (McCabe) and a fairly straight talking point of view (calling out Commissioner Callaghan), it’ll be difficult to find a leader more qualified to rebuild trust in the party by the electorate. It might instill a sense of meaning into the party – something good to try achieve.
Somehow I don’t see anyone else that has qualities of that kind.
Dimmy isn’t an elected representative anymore. Not sure whether that would preclude him from being party leader – i doubt he could be but i’m not that well up on it.
Another Sunday, another British Royal photo on front of Irish Mail on Sunday. It really is amazing they can’t put some Irish photo on their front page!
The FG mantra that profit must be protected above anything else will lead to many deaths from Covid 19.
Italy is already making decisions on who receives Intensive Care based on age- and the same will happen here.
The inaction from this government is shocking.
The UK has a ‘Three Wise Men’ approach if the worst comes to the worst.
It’ll all be down to survival of the freshest, healthiest meat.
Oh it will definitely be allocated on the basis of age here – the usual over 65 bed blockers will get it all, – most of it for free. They’re the ones keeping the current shower in power. Younger people will be banjaxed as usual.
Nope- allocation will be on the basis of who is most likely to survive and, it will happen sooner than in Italy because they have a full NHS.
Is there even private ICUs in Ireland?
+1 on first bit.
Triage will likely be the rule.
Triage is now a death sentence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcJDpV-igjs
Charger’s very quiet. Another over-65 taken from us?
Has been very quiet the past week or so. Maybe the Bean Savage overdosed on the staple diet? Or burnt his willie ironing his Union Jocks in preparation for the visit of the freeloaders.
Stupidity sometimes manifests itself as intelligence.
Coronationvirus?
Get well, regardless, if so.
We have the DEEP CLEAN media bullpoo again- same as after Mehole Martin was gong to charge you two grand for having a fag indoors.
whatever you agree with a consenting adult behind closed doors should be free.
As a protected species I am deeply offended by your hateful comment- expect a visit at your place of work from an Garda Síochána Emergency Response Unit TODAY.
He’s self vaccinating
https://twitter.com/bigthink/status/1235587280204595208?s=19