Covid-19 Deaths ‘Regardless Of Cause’

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Dr Deborah Brix

“There are other countries that if you had a pre-existing condition, and let’s say the virus caused you to go to the ICU [intensive care unit] and then have a heart or kidney problem.

Some countries are recording that as a heart issue or a kidney issue and not a COVID-19 death. The intent is … if someone dies with COVID-19 we are counting that.”

Dr. Deborah Birx, response coordinator for the White House coronavirus task force

Anyone?

Birx says government is classifying all deaths of patients with coronavirus as ‘COVID-19’ deaths, regardless of cause (Fox)

Feds classifying all coronavirus patient deaths as ‘COVID-19’ deaths, regardless of cause (New York Post)

PA

Meanwhile…

Hmm.

13 thoughts on “Covid-19 Deaths ‘Regardless Of Cause’

  1. Tony

    Allows ignorant Trumptons to cast doubt on massive death counts by suggesting many of them would have died anyway. Probably

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    1. Newname

      Sounds about right.
      And obviously if breathing issues cause cardiac issues that should be recorded as covid. Ffs.

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        1. Newname

          This shows the change in death rate in bergamo over a couple of weeks.
          https://youtu.be/PFgq1oYo1N4
          If you think the death toll isn’t real then you should take a look at some… I dunno. News?
          Probably won’t even see this I’m so late coming back. But I hope you do. We’ve been destroyed in Italy. Ireland has the chance to avoid it if you learn from what has happened here and avoid dumb funk conspiracy theories.

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          1. some old queen

            I know well from colleagues on the the front line that it is real but- influenza is never recorded as a cause of death because there is no test.

            The only real stat is flat line % death so- is it going up or down?

          2. Newname

            But influenza is recorded as causing deaths, possibly not as many as it actually contributes to but it has an official death rate?
            If it is skyrocketing places like bergamo that were slow to introduce quarantine, and barely increasing places like lodi, that introduced quarantine quicker but had the same dates for first cases, and are in same geographical area so same culture, weather, lifestyle etc., I would think that says more about benefits of religiously following lockdown than anything else.

          3. Newname

            And thanks for replying! Really thought I was too late. This has touched such a nerve for me as I am frightened for loved ones back home, and… it isn’t good here at the moment…

          4. some old queen

            As far as I am aware Newname- the generic label of influenza is not used on a death cert.

            My own mother was 86 when she died and rode a bike into her sixties. Because she enjoyed a cigarette,her death cert said COPD but I am pretty sure it was old age myself.

  2. Formerly known as @ireland.com

    The RTE Pandemic podcast mentioned that in Britain, the Statistics office counts the deaths differently to the government. The Statistics office has a 23% higher figure.

    This article covers it:
    https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/07/uk/coronavirus-uk-deaths-intl-gbr/index.html

    Changing topic – this from the Guardian:
    There are fears the UK will become the worst hit country in Europe, with more than 40% of the continent’s deaths, according to forecasts. The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation predicted 66,000 UK deaths from Covid-19 by August, with a peak of nearly 3,000 fatalities a day.

    New Zealand’s swift decision to impose strict lockdown measures last month appears to be paying off, with the nation recording its lowest number of new coronavirus cases in a fortnight.

    The difference in the quality of PM is stark. NZ has a good leader, Britain has Bozo. NZ has one (yes, 1) CV19 death, the UK will have far too many.

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  3. some old queen

    What Scott Jensen is saying will be backed up by the figures on overall deaths- its already happening England and Wales.

    The overall number of fatalities has not markedly gone up but the number being registered as other illness like pneumonia and cardiac arrest has gone way down- it’s a re-classification.

    I expect the reason for this is that CoVid-19 is a new disease and keeping tabs on it is the priority right now. If however, it turns out that the majority of those infected are silent carriers or asymptomatic, then the fatality rate has been grossly overestimated.

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  4. f_lawless

    Follow the money? Maximising public fear and panic – regardless of whether or not the impact of the virus does indeed reach worst case scenarios – is a useful cover to justify yet another massive transfer of wealth to US elites.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAbXuJ2tK90&feature=emb_logo

    John Titus:
    “With the world’s eyes glued to TV’s and smartphones, the U.S. Federal Reserve has quietly added a trillion dollars to its balance sheet. The Fed says it did this in response to Coronavirus in order to help credit flow on Main Street, a grotesque lie exposed as such here.”

    “..right now the nation is in shock because it doesn’t know what’s happening and there’s not a lot of clear thinking right now..There’s a lot of ‘the virus, the virus, oh my God, the virus!’ and it’s a great cover for a lot of financial crimes on a massive scale”

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