It Took A Pandemic [Updated]

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This afternoon.

Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil published a joint document (above) to facilitate negotiations with other parties to form a coalition.

The document can be read in full here

Thanks Kevin Deegan

EARLIER:

Fianna Fáil leader Mícheál Martin and Fine Gael leader Leo Varadkar during the final TV leaders’ debate of Election 2020 in February; from a joint framework document containing 10 key ‘missions’ published by FF and FG for potential coalition

This afternoon.

Jennifer Bray, in The Irish Times, reports:

Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael have published a joint framework document for potential coalition which contains 10 key “missions” and says the “overriding focus” of the two parties is to improve the “wellbeing” of Irish people and society.

The 10 pillars are: Reigniting and Renewing the Economy; Universal Healthcare; Housing for All; A New Social Contract; A New Green Deal; A Better Quality of Life for All; Supporting Young Ireland; Opportunities through Education and Research; A Shared Island; At the Heart of Europe: Global Citizenship.

“To assess the performance of a new government, we must look beyond economic indicators,” it says. “We will create new, credible, quality-of-life measures of individual and societal wellbeing and progress.”

More as they get it.

FF and FG publish joint framework for potential coalition (Jennifer Bray, The Irish Times)

Covid-19 crisis tops agenda in FG-FF policy document on new govt (RTÉ)

Pic: Gavan Reilly

UPDATE:

46 thoughts on “It Took A Pandemic [Updated]

  1. RuilleBuille

    The right wing parties Tweedledum and Tweedledee have painted themselves into a corner.

    Cheerio!

  2. Wetern

    So a virus spread within a globalised system now leads to more globalisation?

    Worst pandemic ever!

  3. Brother Barnabas

    whether you like SF or not, it’s hard not to admire eoin o’broin

    in my esteemed opinion

    1. Jake38

      Agreed.

      There’s a good reason O’Broin, Doherty and McDonnell are the only ones West Belfast allows in front of a camera.

    2. Cian

      14th April; eoin o’broin is on twitter giving out that that there is “not a single mention of housing or homelessness in Fine Gael’s seven policy tests and ten specific policies they want a new government to achieve.”

      15th April; eoin o’broin is on twitter giving out that “Nothing new on housing in FG/FG Draft Document.”

      eoin o’broin really like being in opposition. You can sit on twitter all day and snipe.

      1. GiggidyGoo

        His comments yesterday were on FG’s document. He was quite correct.
        His comments today are on the FFG document. Again, he is quite correct.

        Not surprised though that it galls you so much each time SF show FFG p.

      2. some old queen

        So neither FG or FF would go into government with SF and yet- it is somehow SF’s fault?

        SF are now the opposition and I expect they will be a real opposition so- enjoy the ride.

        1. realPolithicks

          These clowns won’t even talk to SF about joining a coalition with FFG but at the same time accuse them of sitting on the sidelines. They’re own stupidity ties them in knots.

  4. Rosette of Sirius

    I got a leaked copy of the document. It’s a good start as I read thru it. I’m not surprised by the bellyaching mind you from the woulda coulda shoulda brigade as they lick their lips and extol with great merriment… ‘in five years it’ll all be ours…’

    1. GiggidyGoo

      As distinct from the ‘Looking at, considering, will create, launch an economic plan, ‘by progressing to a living
      wage over the lifetime of the next Government’ (what – they’ll do that in 3 months?), ‘Develop a series of sector-specific responses’ – and on it goes.
      All of the thought went into a document they hope will entice the Greens and Labour and a hodge-podge of independents – none has gone into the actual actions that will even begin to address what they’re saying the end results of the above will be.
      Waffle and padding in other words.

      Michilin will get his chance to be a Half-Taoiseach. That’s the best he can hope for, ever. I wonder what vehicle he intends using to get past his party’s vote on this.? ‘Ex-tra-ord-in-a-ry not doubt.

        1. A Person

          Eoin O’Broin on the radio this morning (one of the few SF politicians who I admire) says a leopard can’t change it spots in relation to FG and FF. Shurley the same applies to SF/IRA. BTW, the first SF politician to be heard of in how may weeks? Have the Belfast 6 all been isolated? Was he allowed to talk?

          1. GiggidyGoo

            You do know that both of the FF and FG parties came from a violent background. You do know also the Blueshirt history of FG I take it.
            Has Simon Coveney been isolated by the way? All very quiet. In fact, Michilin Martin hasn’t put his head above the parapet much recently either.

        2. GiggidyGoo

          You obviously don’t follow politics too much Cian. Quite the opposite to shying away from Governmant, SF were all for a cross-party government. However, and maybe you’d also like to paste in on something close to you, FFG were the ones that didn’t allow such a cross-party government, and did all in their power to stop SF getting into a position where all the various FFG cans of worms would be opened.

          Good that you included the link where SF urge ‘parties that are serious about change, not to go into government with FFG’. Are you saying the parties that are serious about change are going to get that change from FFG at the helm in Government?

          1. A Person

            Wow, you can reply to a question, although not is a rational manner as usual The FF FG violent background was 100 years ago during a civil war (at least learn a little history before commenting). Not 10 years even though the IRA is continuing to this day. How have they got so much money for a small party? No protection monies (ask any building on the North Strand), bank robbery involved All those cash machines on the border?

            Besides all that O’Broin said they were elected on a mandate for change. So form an effing govt. Do something, or have Belfast said no? Do what you were supposedly elected for. If you don’t have the numbers and other parties won’t go into govt with you why not? Is it your crime past or they can’t trust you. Go on, get Eoin to answer that question.

          1. Rosette of Sirius

            It’s not the two other large parties shying away that’re the problem, it’s the fact that everyone one else is too….

        1. GiggidyGoo

          Nah – I think FF has missed that boat in fairness. FG also. FFG – well, they’re looking for it to be theirs right now. And it still won’t be all theirs.

          1. Rosette of Sirius

            Thing is…. SF have lost any form of momentum from the election. They made little not no attempt – serious attempt – to coalesce the 90 odd TDs that weren’t FF/FG. They politic-ed the bejesus out of it. In my opinion they may have been hankering for another election. Then C19 hit. Leo and the team, to be fair, have – in the eyes of the general population – have performed better than even I expected (I need to emphasize, I’m not a FGer).

            They now have momentum and a mammoth task – FF are now in and somewhere along the way, 8 or so more seats will be found to form a government. With FF on board, who knows… the Healy-Rae’s’ may get a run in a ministerial car (lorda mercy on us).

            I have no idea what the world will be like when we have the next election. I know one thing tho. It will be a dramatically different world and I feel one that will make the the authoritarian approach to party politics that Sinn Fein are prone to even more distasteful to this little country of ours.

          2. GiggidyGoo

            ‘the authoritarian approach to party politics that Sinn Fein are prone to….’
            That’s some stretch.

          3. A Person

            You are right there. SF don’t do authoritarian. People just disappear. Or are dumped on the side of a road, naked, tortured, dead. An shure look, they were against the great republic…. and the bull shit goes on and one. .

          4. Rob_G

            Lol – did SF not have the same leader for 35 years, and then his replacement ran unopposed? Yeah, not authoritarian at all, not a bit of it…

          5. GiggidyGoo

            Authoritarian. Definition – ‘favouring or enforcing strict obedience to authority at the expense of personal freedom.’
            Think – Irish Water Protests. Think – current lockdown.

            Don’t tell me you all forgot to look up the definition. It’s the definition of Blueshirts.

          6. Rob_G

            There is some form of a lockdown in almost every country in the world at the minute, is that somehow the fault of the Blueshirts as well?

  5. Eamonn Clancy

    Hopefully Dev’s grandson has the courage to pull the plug on this and take about 4 or 5 with him. The first anti treaty shots from Fine Gael have been fired in Mayo.

      1. bisted

        …not sure anyone has emerged with glory from that saga…e few reputations seem to have perished on that rock called Sorcha McAnespy…maybe our Tyrone resident analyst could enlighten us?

        1. Shayna

          I’m guessing that’s me? I know the McAnespy family from Aughnacloy in Tyrone – one of their family was shot dead by The British Army – he was walking home, after a night’s drinking – un-armed, he was challenged by a British Army patrol – they simply shot him.

          1. Shitferbrains

            He was shot after walking through a checkpoint on the way to a match. Drink had no part in it.

    1. George

      The other 2 large parties won’t talk to them. If they’re in the ditch it is because the other two forced them there.

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