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Bank of Ireland CEO Francesca McDonagh and AIB CEO Colin Hunt leaving the Department of Finance after a meeting with Minister of Finance Pahal Donohoe in March

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    1. A Person

      Good man Goo you’re back moaning. You ran away on Friday, can’t answer a question – is the lock down good or not? Is the govt doing good on this issue? Go on I dare you coward answer a question. You comment on every post on here except the ones you are called out on. Maybe you should run for govt – sorry I forgot, no govt in the north, or mps from your party in London – sure you’d have to make a decision.

      1. GiggidyGoo

        News for you, A-Thingy. I replied to your question 6.44 pm 9th May. I also asked you a question, but surprise, surprise, off you ran. So, do yourself a favour, and read my reply but more to the point, give us your reply.
        That’s of course if you’re capable

        1. GiggidyGoo


          May 9, 2020 at 6:44 pm
          Sorry, I missed your question yesterday about the lockdown. Plus I asked you to elaborate on your post above, as the article didn’t mention anything about a lockdown. Your post therefore was a ‘look over there’ one.

          But you asked if the lock down in right. Well, if you were following the discussion here since February, I always held that there should have been a lockdown. You and your mateys kick your toys out of your prams anytime I mention the Italian arrivals and the Cheltenham debacle, and no controls on those.

          So your own question back at you then – do you agree with not locking down by FG“

          1. A Person

            You didn’t answer the question, and certainly not in the context it was posted -“Is the lock down right? Its a real simple question. I asked it yesterday and you failed to reply. Is the govt’s response to the virus right, and would your leader have done anything differently.” You are on here all the time yet couldn’t answer a question posted until 36 hours later, nor did you answer the question the day before – did you have to get clearance from Belfast? You are on here criticising the govt reaction – what is your solution, and does SF support it? Personally I would prefer no travel from any country in the Republic, Cheltenham, Italy whatever, including your country. So, grow a pair, answer the question “Is the govt’s response to the virus right, and would your leader have done anything differently.”

          2. scottser

            ‘i never asked you whether you were satisfied with my answer to your question, only that you be satisfied that i provided an answer to your question’

          3. guns and drums and drums and guns harooo

            i beg your pardon
            I never promised you a rose garden

          4. A Person

            Nope still no answer to the question. Jaysus you lads would give Boris a run for his money in terms of evasiveness. Cowards, as ever.

          5. GiggidyGoo

            Question was answered. You didn’t like it so you’ve added on more. ROFL!
            And you cohort of mateys in tow kicking and screaming.

            I’d just the one question for you, and you’ve run a mile from it. Do you agree with FGs decision not no lock down the country at the beginning, and allow (for instance) a cohort of Italians arrive from what was Europe’s hot spot at the time.
            I’ve answered your question. I’ve always said that a lockdown was needed – in other words, it’s the correct thing to do. It’s what I and others said should have been done from the start.

            Are you able to answer mine though?

          6. A Person

            Read back “Personally I would prefer no travel from any country in the Republic, Cheltenham, Italy whatever, including your country.” I already answered your question. It took one go , and I answered it. You did not yet again answer my question – its real simple – you can break it down into 2 parts:

            1: “Is the govt’s response to the virus right, and 2: would your leader have done anything differently.”

          7. GiggidyGoo

            Which part of “I’ve always said that a lockdown was needed – in other words, it’s the correct thing to do.” can you not understand?

            ‘Preferably’ doesn’t answer the question either. It wasn’t about you.
            Were FG correct not to lock down? To turn your own back on you – are you that cowardly that you can’t answer that very simple question? Would your leader not like your answer? Maybe you need some input from Arlene to guide him?
            ROFL!

          8. GiggidyGoo

            You must be tired after all of that running. What’s the matter? Afraid to answer? Did socky pull the bit too tight? Did your masters in Belfast put you right. C’mon, answer the question. Too much of a coward?

            (ROFL!)

          9. A Person

            You must have been on the sauce last night. I have nothing to do with FG, just want balance from the propaganda that you shinners like to espouse on this site.

            I think that the the govt’s reply was slow and a greater lock down from other country’s should have been implemented.

            Now answer the question for the 100th time – would your leader have done anything different. Surely given your great knowledge you would access to this information.

            BTW you should try and get some exercise, you seem to becoming unhinged, or more immature – trying to link anyone but the shinners to Belfast (seriously)?

          10. GiggidyGoo

            Who do you assume to be my ‘leader’? Why would you assume I know the intentions or thoughts of SF?
            Notice I used the word “assume”. I hope you understand what the word means.

            So, I’ll ask you again (and the answer is either yes, or no by the way)
            Do you agree with FGs decision not no lock down the country at the beginning?

            Or are you still going to be the coward and run away. Maybe Leokins pulled a bit too tight on the reins. C’mon now, don’t be shy.

            ROFL

          11. A Person

            See I can answer questions – yes the country should have been locked down earlier, including those from the north. I never ran away, I can answer questions. You can’t and have to wait 36 hours to give feeble replies, and then use words that I describe you with like “coward”, “ran away”, “sauce”. Get a life.

            What would your leader (Mary Lou or is it Michelle O’Neill) have done? You have yet to answer that question. Why, because you are a coward, and ran away and went on the sauce.

    2. V-19

      In about 5 to 8 years, yeah, there’ll probably be a market for some dodgy loan bundles, and for loans that went off the rails as a result of the Covid-19 Pandemic

      as for now, any vultures here that haven’t off loaded and already cashed out
      are doing savage deals
      and so are the main st banks btw

      Not so much Bank of Ireland
      But they were always xxxxs

  1. sert

    If the coronavirus death total quadruples by the end of the year that will be 3,000. That’s 10% of the total number of deaths in 2018

    lock down is destroying this country for nothing.

      1. class wario

        which of your elderly family members will you be offering up in the name of the invisible hand

        1. V-19

          no more than during the last flu season

          If I could wind the clock back and take years off them I would

          It faces us all, one day any-day in fact, it’ll be me, it’ll be my turn,
          and yours too

          1. class wario

            Does the flu run the risk of overwhelming our health system in a matter of weeks if left unchecked? Does the existence of the flu render the existence of a new, more contagious and likely more deadly disease irrelevant? You flippantly say “no more than during the last flu season” but in reality it has been and will be more with covid-19 in play.

            The OP here has taken the plainly disingenuous route of looking at figures after an extended period of extreme measures taken to combat the virus and said “ah sure they’re not that bad after all, open back up!”. It’s brain dead in the extreme. You don’t need to agree with him just because you feel the need to play devils advocate for every possible position on here.

          2. V'ness

            The point is Wario, the risk was there for elderly people anyway

            Covid-19 is just another risk
            nor did it cause people to have CF, or Asthma
            Or need hip replacements, or blood pressure tablets

            I don’t know what way death is going to take me
            Or my remaining elderly parent
            or the people I love
            But I absolutely know for sure its going to have its way, with all of us

            I think we’ve all adjusted to practising Social Distancing now
            and washing our hands, and probably now to wearing masks

            Our behaviour has changed and it will stay that way permanently
            we will always now think twice about entering a crowded space

            So lets face into it

            If people shy away from events, like the Munster Hurling Final say
            Or taking flights, say to South Korea for a wedding
            then let them decide that for themselves and let them take the precautions, and also the risk

            waiting around for Simon Harris and Leo Varadkar and all the other actors to get testing up and running has to stop

            they’re at it nearly four months
            meanwhile hospital lists are not just frozen, they’re growing, our trolley crisis didn’t evapourate you know

            schools, jobs, careers, families, courts, sports, college courses,
            are frozen
            and most will lose out

            ENOUGH -far too much grace has been given to the acting government here
            Simon Harris is no more capable a Minister for Health now than he was twelve months ago
            Same for almost most of them

            and I’m effed if I have to watch him screw us all up just so that he can hang on to his job – same for the rest of them

            GTF ou’ that

          3. goldenbrown

            “Or taking flights, say to South Korea for a wedding then let them decide that for themselves and let them take the precautions, and also the risk”

            personal risk is one thing. what about accountability? for accidentally passing it on to my grandmother after the cool wedding spin there.

            would there be consequences or would it be tough tits she’s not one of my clan and shure she probably lived a grand life anyway, now just wait till I show you this mad place in Seoul we ended up in…

            ?

          4. V'ness

            Jesus
            did someone say stop self isolating or don’t test yourself?
            or be mindful before visiting an elderly person?

            I was mindful of spreading colds and flus
            even head lice
            long before there was even a Covid 1

            PPE was around then too

          5. goldenbrown

            sorry, who’s doing what here, I’m confused?

            is it that the lads off on the lash to Seoul are responsible for self-isolating themselves and paying to get themselves tested (presumably else how they gonna know they have it for sure or not?) on return. are they accountable in any way if they don’t do that and injure Granny?

            or is it Granny’s responsibility to keep herself locked away due to the risk the wedding party there have introduced to her sphere?

            also in what way is the risk of contracting colds flu’s or head lice comparable to risk posed by contracting Sars-CoV-2 exactly? are we to downgrade it’s potential now for some reason?

          6. goldenbrown

            I assume the wedding party there are also to be accountable in some way if they don’t self-isolate + pay to have themselves tested (how else are they gonna know whether they are carrying it or not) on their return? is there going to be a warranty on that or is Granny to simply rely on their good nature and duty of care to their fellow man?

            also whilst I’m glad to hear you know how to maintain yourself in no way does Sars-CoV-2 equate to the common cold/flu/lice/alopecia or whatever you’re having yourself in terms of consequence, not even the same chapter.

          7. V'ness

            I’m not the one that’s supposed to have all the answers
            or any of them

            Nor am I the person responsible for managing the Country during this pandemic
            Or for any of the decisions, or promises or outcomes

            My point remains stuck to this one fact
            I’m sick of waiting for our crowd to get it together

            And we’ve all been too patient with them

            We’re still not up to the testing levels we were promised over six weeks ago; and the country is still donating PPE as our own well funded services are unable to meet the demand, nor it would seem even capable of securing the required standard of equipment

            In all likelihood we will now be required to wait for RTE to get their telethon off the ground just to provide them the opportunity to be relevant, and give them something to do to justify their existence at all

            We’ve lost control of our lives and our Country
            and its in the hands of people that can’t even report the numbers on the housing lists correctly, or honestly

            There is not going to be any return to normal, any normal

            Waiting lists for standard procedures, housing lists, education, care homes, elections, marquee events, sport, even there on the commute to work and local transport, the food and leisure industry, food processing and industrial manufacturing, will never ever recover to what we were adjusted to measure as normal

            From local activity in our own families, clubs, schools, towns right up to the Glastonbury Olympic EU WHO order of things
            So I’m not the person that needs to be spoken down to about consequence Goldie

            Its the lads around the Cabinet tables and Pandemic Response Units here in Ireland and around the World, that need to recognise the Consequences for the likes of me and all the other everyday people

            Simon Harris and Leo Varadkar are no more capable now than they were two years ago, but we’ve locked ourselves down to let them try, and we’ve let them off again and again as each promise collapses into a spinned response from them

            Leo’s first appointment to help them work through the Covid-19 Pandemic was a PR guy. A bloody PR guy. And that had one intention and one only
            Minimise opposition and criticism while Maximising Support

            Even Regina Doherty and Catherine Zappone, currently acting in roles that are vital to our recovery mechanisms, from income support to childcare & long term care for the vulnerable – and they weren’t even fit to be returned as simple TDs

            We’ve given them too much grace asaic
            Its all fluffy pictures of doggies and Leo in a mask and cute broadcasts from their front rooms

            But still no exit strategy, plan or even testing for the bloody thing that we can put any faith in
            They’ve had nearly five months (or maybe a lot longer but we’ll probably never know what they all knew and when until it’ll all released from the National Archives in 2101) and we’re all still no closer to trying to live with this and put it behind us

          8. goldenbrown

            “We’ve given them too much grace asaic
            Its all fluffy pictures of doggies and Leo in a mask and cute broadcasts from their front rooms”

            200% in agreement with ya, that sickens myhole too

            no disaster plan, it was half assed from the start

  2. wearnicehats

    I’ve posted on this before as to how little effect the virus will have on overall death toll for the country as a whole over the calendar year. I suspect it will be negligible as an average of 540 people in Ireland died each week in 2019. The expected death toll in nursing homes in a “normal” calendar year is around 6000. There’s no doubt that the initial lockdown was effective in terms of allowing the hospitals to cope with the disproportionate amount of people in ICU and, in particular, on ventilators. With it at a manageable level now though I think that the drawn out nature of the lcokdown is unnecessary at this stage.

  3. goldenbrown

    now watch as the messaging from Govt starts to evolve as these lockdown pressures mount…

    this is just the start. I wonder if the country has yet reached the acceptance-phase where we become happy to risk lives for cash.

  4. Liam Deliverance

    TOTAL CASES CASES TODAY TOTAL DEATHS
    USA 1,370,384 +2,746 80,862
    Spain 268,143 +3,480 26,744
    UK 223,060 +3,877 32,065
    Russia 221,344 +11,656 2,009
    Italy 219,070 NA 30,560
    France 176,970 NA 26,380

    Does Coronavirus say well this country did lockdown for 6 weeks so lets leave them alone now, they tried?
    Will Russia have a death rate comparable to UK/France etc (10,000 new cases per day for the last while)?
    In South Korea, Germany and others where lockdown has relaxed, daily cases are going up again.
    In NYC there has been 20,000 deaths attributable to C-19 from circa 200,000 cases.

    Once you are dead, that’s it, your dead – economies can always be rebuilt.

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