50 thoughts on “June Bank Holiday Papers

  1. SOQ

    Just wondering what the implications of Antifa being designated a US terrorist organisation will be? Social media will come under pressure to close their accounts, likewise financial transactions from PayPal. And then there is the international element- will other countries follow suit?

    Of course in the run up to an election, clamping down on the militant left looks great for Trump- the longer this anarchy continues, the better the optics are for him. Some of the violence in the videos circulating on twitter is shocking.

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    1. Johnny

      “More important, even if antifa were a real organization, the laws that permit the federal government to deem entities terrorists and impose sanctions on them are limited to foreign groups. There is no domestic terrorism law, despite periodic proposals to create one.”

      “There is no authority under law to do that — and if such a statute were passed, it would face serious First Amendment challenges,” said Mary B. McCord, a former head of the Justice Department’s National Security Division. “But right now, the only terrorist authority is for foreign terrorist organizations.”

      The End.

      https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/31/us/politics/trump-antifa-terrorist-group.html

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        1. Enn

          Fascism. Here. There it is. We’ve been here before, historically. It went on and on and it led to the slaughter of millions. But we still beat you in the end.

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      1. SOQ

        Thanks Johnny- that raises questions as how to target such an organisation but will this move ban open support of antifa? Will it become an offence to wear or sell the merchandise for example?

        And then there are other areas like travel- could they prevent supporters entering the country? What about people who are employed in public positions like teachers and lecturers?

        My point being that even if what that N Y Times article is saying is correct- which it probably is- there could still be serious implications to this law.

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        1. Johnny

          Th law referred to is/was designed for non domestic organizations,with structure,leadership say like the UVF.
          It just doest not apply to loose knit domestic groups.

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    2. Nigel

      In what sort of world does continuing unrest in the middle of a pandemic and a recession, where the only action is the questionable crackdown of a vague group of hotheads, unconnected to the cause of the unrest and probably only responsible for a tiny portion of it, make Trump look good? His leadership is non-existent, his calls for violence and crackdowns are shocking, his refusal to take responsibility an act of cowardice. He’s desperately trying to look strong, failing miserably. The worst of his base want him to massacre protesters and instigate a new civil war and when that doesn’t happen (I mean, hopefully) even they might get sick of the big fool.

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      1. Clampers Outside

        Your darling thugs in Antifa are under fire Nigel.

        “… probably only responsible for a tiny portion”… yeah right, sure it was the police that started the riots. Isn’t that your take… Jebus.

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        1. Nigel

          Yeah a group of unorganised anarchists started riots and unrest all across the US. Jesus you welcome authoritarianism with open arms don’t you? There isn’t any evidence whatsoever that antifa was behind the riots, or played any significant part in the violence, but Trump tweets tt out and you lap it up.

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          1. Clampers Outside

            No Nigel, I think you are projecting. As you often support and welcome authoritarian social pressures when you support sjw nonsense. As is often said, these things start small and clearly your tendency is there.

          2. Nigel

            Authoritarian social pressure – having my own opinions about things and not finding yours as persuasive as you think.
            Actual authoritarianism – a powerful politician creating a vague new category of terrorist that can include anyone he doesn’t like.

          3. Nigel

            I used to think the death of George Floyd was a horrifying example of police brutality but then someone stole a cheesecake

          4. Nigel

            Still confused about the difference between civilians killed by civilians and civilians killed by cops, I see.

          5. Fintan Frobisher

            Black Lives Matter.
            Unless it’s another black doing the killing.
            The world according to Citizen ” Undercover Cops Are All To Blame ” Nigel.
            Heh,heh,heh.

          6. Nigel

            The assumption in your idiotic gotcha is that all black people are responsible for any crimes committed by any black person. There’s a word for that kind of assumption.

          7. Nigel

            Only if you can’t understand the difference between ‘groups’ and ‘institutions with systemic issues.’

  2. Gabby

    Some Irish youth are a disgrace. I’m so angry at reports of rowdyism in Galway and blatant anti-distancing house parties in Cork. I’m seriously thinking of phoning Joe Duffy. Alternatively I could write a blistering letter to the Irish Examiner. There, that’ll teach ’em.

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    1. Ringsend Incinerator

      Leave them kids alone. Lockdown, sod all to do. Online exams, remote learning. No socializing IRL. Best weather in ages.

      We all partied as youths. After my exams finished we went mad and wiped several % points off Ireland’s GDP and caused the property market in Killiney to take a dive. Proud of it too. Hope I die before I get old.

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    2. V'ness

      At least you could tell the difference between Mods n’ Rockers
      Punks Hippies etc

      Now they all look and sound the same
      Hardly worth whinging about tbh

      when it could be skin colour,
      Or the biggest curse of them all, religion
      That segregates bored young people

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      1. Ringsend Incinerator

        True. The white runners. The ray-ban shades. The Zara clothes. The Canada Goose. The bra tops. The American accents. The tattoos. The hair. The flat whites.

        Boring.

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    1. bisted

      …I’ve never bought the Examiner but I used to be a newspaper junkie and bought them by the armful…but putting La Keane in the strapline…does this really sell extra copies?

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  3. Janet, I ate my avatar

    In other news it’s going to be the warmest day so far, there’s a pleasant breeze, the wood pigeons are hooting, so slap on a sunhat, throw something in the fridge to cool, and socially distance enjoy the hell out of a glorious June day in a relatively stable pleasant part of the world.

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  4. Johnny

    Superb piece LA Times by Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.

    “Yes, protests often are used as an excuse for some to take advantage, just as when fans celebrating a hometown sports team championship burn cars and destroy storefronts. I don’t want to see stores looted or even buildings burn. But African Americans have been living in a burning building for many years, choking on the smoke as the flames burn closer and closer. Racism in America is like dust in the air. It seems invisible — even if you’re choking on it — until you let the sun in. Then you see it’s everywhere.”

    https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2020-05-30/dont-understand-the-protests-what-youre-seeing-is-people-pushed-to-the-edge

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    1. ReproBertie

      You’re obsessed Spoofer. Try wearing a hat in the sun to stop you imagining me saying all the things you think I said.

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  5. Johnny

    -a rather amusing little DOB/Digicel story for the bank holiday-would write it up but have been out late last few nights peacefully protesting, well done Dublin and Ireland.

    backstory on the Don-all from NWL link below.

    -He’s a first cousin of Denis O’Brien, his mother Maureen was the sister of Denis O’Brien’s father, Denis Senior. Donald’s father, from whom his mother was divorced, was an American physician, Dr Niall MacAllister-

    He’s now filled after filling a lawsuit (above)prior in California a complaint in Digicel’s BK case in NY,allegations that DOB has committed a crime in not reporting his INM legal woes in IRL,in his SEC filling-he may actually be onto something !

    He’s alleging all filled in US court and available below or on twitter that Dennis has committed financial fraud and that he has evidence…also and way more importantly that he should have disclosed his INM legal issues in IRL to the SEC.

    Now,Don has shall we say made some fairly out there allegations in past, but Judical Watch or any the MAGA crowd may use this over the Clintons,either way it’s looking very messy….

    https://namawinelake.wordpress.com/2013/04/02/denis-obrien-suing-for-defamation-in-california/

    here..its the first doc if IP issues with US courts a rather bad photo is on the feed-link above.

    https://dm.epiq11.com/case/dc2/dockets

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