every woke idiot in earth had a bone to chew this weekend…commit to defund the police department….morons
SOQ
Seen that- what are they demanding? Un-policed communities? How would that even work?
class wario
This is actually great
dav
it upsets the /pol/tards so it can’t be bad..
Paddy Norton
Surprised at the sparsity of coverage over the stabbing incident near Cork that was everywhere on social media over the weekend.
Can’t help wondering if the victim had been black and the alleged perpetrator white instead of the reverse of actually happened would there have been saturation coverage in the media instead.
Rob_G
It’s on the frontpage of several newspapers, Davy Duke.
ReproBertie
And was reported on by RTÉ’s Paschal Sheehy but actual MSM coverage won’t suit the racist narrative so racists tend to ignore that, just as they don’t raise a hue and cry when white people get stabbed by white people and it’s not national news.
Paddy Norton
It’s on the front page of two Cork newspapers.If it was a black youth as the victim it would be getting wall to wall coverage – we’d already be having the heavyweight commentators weighing in and the TV programme bookers scouring their contacts book for a non-white talking head.Even someone with a good Covi-19 back garden tan would probably pass muster.The liberal media bias is alive and well in Ireland.
ReproBertie
Stupid liberal media reporting on a crime in a national newspaper and ruining the racist’s pathetic argument.
but it wasn’t a black youth. what the fupp are you on about?
Paddy Norton
A few fun facts from the US of A to chew on when considering whether black lives matter more than anyone else.
In 2018, white people committed 3,953 murders. That’s a rate of 2 per 100,000. A comparable rate for black people would yield 880 murders.
There were 4,778.
In 2018, white people committed 12,794 rapes. That’s a rate of 6 per 100,000. A comparable rate for black people would yield 2,640 rapes.
There were 5,376.
In 2018, white people committed 29,025 robberies. That’s a rate of 14 per 100,000. A comparable rate for black people would yield 6,160 robberies
There were 36,187.
In 2018, white people committed 184,527 aggravated assaults. That’s a rate of 93 per 100,000. A comparable rate for black people would yield 40,920 aggravated assaults.
There were 100,393.
This trend continues with burglary, larceny theft, motor vehicle theft, arson, other assaults, forgery and counterfeiting, fraud, embezzlement, stolen property and literally every single crime category except for DUI, booze laws, and drunkenness.
Yup, real live crime rates.
With such massive disparities in crime rates, why on earth would you expect there to be no disparities anywhere else such as in the number of blacks who die at the hands of white AND black police officers.
If you don’t want the cops to kick the snot out of you why not consider killing,raping,robbing and all the other stuff a bad career move.
millie von strumpet
A ‘comparable rate’.
That’s some elegant twisting of numbers your doing there buddy.
Its ugly, crass, and deliberately overworked into an exaggerated blunderbuss.
The presentation of comparisons are deliberately painted to highlight a bigot’s own preferences, and what they want the reader to focus on.
As someone who is quite familiar with transcribing numerical information into text, I can recognise the writers intentional bias.
Even I would struggle to find a more disgusting and dangerous example of Window Dressing
Janet, dreams of spidercrab
I’m sure Milly was being sarcastic,
it’s one of the ugliest posts ever to “grace” BS
Paddy Norton
You’re welcome to disprove any of the facts and statistics I have presented.
Paddy I have already given your ugly soul more of my attention than it deserves, you can’t communicate with your kind of bias and hate and expect anything but a headache, so no thanks
scottser
there’s quite a lot of this going around on twitter and watsapp, including floyd’s prior criminal history and the whole ‘how can it be racist if a police officer stops a black guy from raping my daughter’ schtick.
millie von strumpet
Here I am lamenting the lack of the sarcastic font once again, J. You are, of course, correct – as you almost always are.
class wario
It’s good to get an example of this sort of disingenuous throwing-poo-at-the-wall approach to ‘debate’ here, where we get a barrage of statistics (which can be cut any which way to make any sort of point depending on what context is or isn’t given) and get told to disprove them because they are ‘facts’
Paddy Norton
Of course if you believe that simply presenting statistics is in itself inherently racist then you’re choosing to head down a dangerous path.However bad the stats are in explaining why blacks commit, disproportionately, a huge amount of violent and non-violent crime in America often against each other they don’t justify what happened to George Floyd.But they go a long way towards understanding why police departments all over America deal with black people in the way they do.
Interestingly many of the cities with the worst records of police brutality are Democrat-controlled and have a long history of black mayors and chiefs of police.
Things are a little more complicated than “all police are white racists ” but they tend to get lost in the fog of liberal virtue-signalling as many of the comments on here demonstrate.
millie von strumpet
But you didn’t simply present the statistics and figures, did you? If you had done that we would have had one simple figure to compare to another figure, eg. 100 per 100,000 < 130 per 100,000. But instead we get whatever you've warped logic you've applied above, where your biases are quite clearly affecting how you present the data. And then, of course, the link you've provided doesn't seem to be working.
And as Cian rightly points out below, these figures may well be indicative of how inherent racism factors into arrest figures in the US.
But by all means, dismiss any discussion of racism as 'virtue signalling'.
@Paddy. These are arrest figures I’m guessing (your link was incomplete). If there the police are racist, then they are more likely to arrest (and prosecute) black people than white people.
Those statistics may be showing that inherit racism?
Johnny
-you got a source there cracker-second link not working-im calling BS on your numbers and math happens with inbreeding.
scottser
‘he uses statistics the way a drunk uses a lampost; more for support than illumination..’
millie von strumpet
I read and reread the comment a number of times last night and thought it was a truly ugly and disgusting attempt to distort and warp numbers. It turned my stomach to read, as much as it did yours V.
And you didn’t need to explain yerself to me
Far from it honey
X V
Cian
What do you mean by “committed”?
– eye witness to crime?
– people arrested for a crime?
– people convicted for a crime?
Janet, dreams of spidercrab
any figures for access to éducation, healthcare, job prospects etc, etc, you absolute silly
MaryLou's ArmaLite
That’s not justification or reason for committing serious crime…you absolute silly.
Brother Barnabas
the point is that theres a clear correlation between social and economic deprivation and likelihood of being convicted for a crime
if you give someone a fair chance in life, theyll lead a better life
skin colour has nothing to do with it
diddy
true dat. let’s see how the black areas of dublin turn out given access to employment welfare and education.
f_lawless
It’s a bit more complex than that, from what I’ve read. According to a major study in 2018, people from black communities are indeed less likely to achieve upward social mobility than their peers from other racial backgrounds.
The problem, according to the study, lies with black males and the family unit. The trajectory of black boys’ lives is shaped by the absence of black fathers. The problem is widespread among black communities and perpetuates across generations.
A fundamental reason for that absence has been the disproportionate mass incarceration of black men. This began in the 70s with de-industrialisation of the US (which led to the loss of many blue-collar jobs), and escalated after the introduction of the “War on Drugs”, initiated by the NIxon administration around the same time.
But as later admitted by John Ehrlichman, Nixon’s domestic-policy adviser, the real reason the War on Drugs was set up was to target and disrupt black communities in order to stifle the rising black civil rights movement (and also to target the antiwar movement). Interestingly, Joe Biden played an instrumental role in greatly expanding the so called “War on Drugs” in the 80s and 90s.
exactly, and actually rape is a big problem in Sri Lanka and India for different social reasons, nothing to do with the colour of the skin
Janet, dreams of spidercrab
this was obvs meant for Paddy’s gibberish below
Paddy Norton
It was a ” clear correlation ” which made me kill that retired black police officer your honour.
Man, I just didn’t catch any breaks as I was growing up.
Is the lack of healthcare an excuse to rape someone ?
Education and job opportunities for blacks in America are far greater than somewhere like say Sri Lanka or Peru which don’t appear to compensate for this by staggering numbers of violent crime and murder.
Y’all can make up any excuses you like but the statistics clearly show if you want to be a bad boy you gotta expect some collateral damage.
You play with fire you gonna get burned Holmes.
Bad boys, bad boys
Whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do
When they come for you.
Tony
Holmes.
:)
Rob_G
Go easy on him, he actually it quite well for a Russian.
Brother Barnabas
are you saying theres a racial bias within the criminal justice system?
I’ve heard that mentioned
class wario
really cringe when you guys try to use AAVE
Janet, dreams of spidercrab
plus megacringe
scottser
i also detest the white american vernacular english that you hear kids speak nowadays. i am determined that my kids grow up with a proper dublin accent and use as much dublin slang as possible.
millie von strumpet
My young wan called her grandad a gobshite yesterday, to my immense pride.
Speaking of pro-fa , I see Bolsonaro is censoring the data on the effects of the virus . “nothing to see here , move along now “
realPolithicks
Its amazing how anything to do with race really brings the dogs out..the comment section on this site is turning into an absolute pigsty.
ReproBertie
“why on earth would you expect there to be no disparities anywhere else such as in the number of blacks who die at the hands of white AND black police officers”
I didn’t realise executing suspected criminals was part of the role of the police force.
SOQ
Unfortunately there is some truth in those figures.
What I find interesting that there is a number of black critics of BLM coming forward now. The two main criticisms are that focusing exclusively on white on black murders is racist and that telling a group that they are oppressed is a means of dis-empowering them.
Here is a video from DC of a black woman challenging a BLM protest- there is a certain irony in a white woman lecturing a black woman about how she should feel. There appears to be Breitbart connection which means it will be dismissed by some but, it is an alternative view point and she certainly can hold her own.
Just reserve judgement and hear what she has to say eh? Her opinion on the subject is as valid as any other.
It is a very weird and racist preoccupation of yours that members of X group unanimously and incorrectly hold Y view and thus anybody within that group who disagrees with Y must be correct and given more credibility due to their membership of said group. Just an endless playlist of videos of token people being used by right wing groups to push an agenda.
SOQ
So it is racist to hear alternative BLACK opinions now is it?
It must be hard being you- lecturing gays and now lecturing blacks on the error of their ways.
class wario
every single one of your comments is so tiring and so disingenuous so as to make me wonder why i ever engage
I’m not a bit afraid of who I am
I stand over everything I have ever written and everything I have ever Said
I don’t think anyone could accuse me of having flimsey wishy washy opinions
I walk my talk
And *guilt is something Irish women of my generation were groomed to live with and accept as our lot
Thankfully we shafted it
Exposed it and got a landslide to support us
That link you imported there is so typically ignorant and convenient
Yet so you
* + discrimination + sexism + chauvinism x misogyny²
that still exists today
SOQ
An opinion from Christopher Wright- a political black man in NYC- is ignorant?
What is he saying that is so ignorant? He is calling out Antifa as racists and explains why. Unless you feel black people should only have one point of view on BLM of course?
As for discrimination, I lost two jobs because of being gay and could write a bloody book on it- but you won’t find any victim-hood here- nor with the likes of Chris.
class wario
The only person who seems to think black people are a hivemind capable of a singular opinion is you, such is the authority and apparent surprise you lend to black people having contrary and usually right wing views. You do this for literally every view and group possible. and then you have the gall to accuse other people of racism/homophobia/whatever for not agreeing.
Janet, dreams of spidercrab
where did my comment go ?
Janet, dreams of spidercrab
sorry for the profanity, I thought it was mild ;)
Rosette of Sirius
Oh flip oh gosh oh golly gee
But now we know how we touched on his sore spot
Oh crumbs oh boy oh sugar me
It’s plain to see what got him bothered and hot
We thought that it was just something that you said
But then we realized that it was all he played
‘Cause he can play crap on the radio (on the radio)
You can play crap on the radio (play crap on the radio)
Be careful what you say
And you can play ‘poo’ all day
‘Cause you can play crap on the radio, radio, radio
Janet, dreams of spidercrab
I’d go to a doctor for that if I were you
scottser
he might well get a stiff little finger somewhere he didn’t expect..
Janet, dreams of spidercrab
teehee, I get the music joke ! :)
Formerly known as @ireland.com
The reason the British carry on about WWI and WW2 is that the rest of their history is not that pleasant. The empire wasn’t built on free trade and treating everyone equally. Hopefully, the Colston statue educates a few people.
remember yesterday when i was getting stick for suggesting far right gobpoos were trying to use this attack to fuel their racewar narrative in this country. quelle surprise, I was correct.
i hope all the ‘i don’t listen to the MSM, i take on board news from all sources!’ types can admit they were played
scottser
Gemtrails’s comment halfway down that thread is pure nutbag.
Janet, dreams of spidercrab
madder than a bag of badgers
GiggidyGoo
Lots of comments on those threads. Hard to know how you come to the conclusion that ‘far right’ are using it.
You do realize though that it was one of the friends of the attackers who recorded and posted the video? Is he Far Right?
ReproBertie
“Hard to know how you come to the conclusion that ‘far right’ are using it.”
Did you look at the thread, specifically the post showing the screen grab of the post titled “Operation Carrigaline” claiming the attack was “clearly a racial assault” and saying “We are only a small nationalist community in Ireland so we need help”? Or the post showing the video titled “Irish Teenagers Terrorised by Violent Black Supremacists”?
Hard to know how you could see that and not come to the conclusion that the far right are using it.
As stupid as they are, I don’t think those lads would’ve just absconded with the money from the gofundme. I think the con here was somewhat more indirect, in that they were actively hoping that the gofundme (which was rapidly set up, very clearly not done by a family member or friend and which contained a number of very racist donation comments) *would* be shut down. Once that was done, they could play the victim and say that official Ireland or whatever was denying money to a victim of ‘black crime’ because of political correctness or whatever you’re having yourself
Eh.. that whole thread and almost all of the actors involved is a rabbit hole of deluded racist nationalism and pseudo patriotic gombeen oirish eejit’s confused by pseudo-social media and empowering each other with the herd mentality of a flock of chickens.
You know you’re in the wrong place when eventually you come accross the self-inflated egomaniacal dim-witted narcissist.. eejit par excellance.. John McGuirk.
Turn off all your phones and computers and go read a book. You dumb f…’s!..
BTW: Clearly, without a proper mechanism for moderation of graphic content or any serious regulation at all, this type of pseudo-social media is causing more problems than it’s worth…
Ditch twitter and keep your kids away from it.. or at least warn them it’s not real… for the mental health of future civil society.
Well eff you anyway Wario
I followed both those links
and I’m telling ye
I’m not the better of it
That 4Chan stuff – the screen grabs, actually made me nauseous
And that fundraiser – Jesus,
Well That’s me told anyway – I never believed that was the kinda money these minor Latter Day Patriots were attracting
Feck, lads
I am sincerely shook
Some stuff now, like
Stuff that was done and said – over the last couple of years
Feck, all makes so much more sense now
Looks like I owe the Bog Lawyer Kevin Higgins an apology
Anyway, here.. this will cheer you up a bit and give you some hope foe the future…
Pseudo -social media is inherantly and intentionally designed to capture everyone’s attention and keep them using it.
The whole system has also both naturally and somewhat unintentionally been allowed to evolve to polarise people into extremes because when people are angry they get more passionate, emotional, more involved so they stay online longer, keep paying more attention, interacting and clicking , commenting, clicking, engaging, consuming more content i.e. adverts and ultimately being manipulated even more and more every day, week, month.. year on year…
Jarod Lanier, technoly / internet genius, futurist and philosopher explains the problems of it all in this short summary everone should watch, then pass on to others and teach to their kids:
Also,
Shoshana Zuboff, Harvard Professor / Scholar described as ” a true prophet of the information age”.. on “Surveillance capitalism” as mentioned in the previous video.
– https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL4bz3QXWEo
Both Channel 4 Interviews worth watching from the past year..
Like facederp, twits-urgh? has had it’s 15 minutes… and failed…
DELETE your pseudo-social media accounts…
SHUT DOWN – CTRL+ALT+DEL – ABORT / EJECT etc. etc.
Ah t’was nothing ontoward really – the apology to Kevin is because I dismissed his advices about activities being conducted by some people on the darker side of life via social media accounts, and how they use them.
Mind you after learning who was behind a particular nasty set of emails and let’s just say ‘posts’ and other stuff – I suppose I should have been more copped on
And a lot less Mumsie about it
Jesus – that 4 Chan stuff
F’ me lads
No matter what anyone’s views, politics, preferences or bias’ are
To manipulate 17 year olds – minors in fact
Like that was nothing short of cold blooded
I hope for whoever’s sake they got the permission of the stabbing victim’s parents/ Guardian before that fundit was opened
class wario
It makes for grim reading.
I think there is some comfort to realising these people are a tiny, tiny minority in every sense.
But it’s key that we remain vigilant in combating them and educating people too. These lads were straight onto that video yesterday morning trying to push an agenda, sharing it, pushing race war conspiracies etc. Outlets like The Liberal have started to launder a lot of the most obnoxious takes on it for a wider audience too. If not for the unplanned efforts of a few, this could’ve ran for days as a handy bit of far right propaganda and I think that serves to show the importance of the non-fascists of Ireland chipping in to defeat this type of muck.
Nigel
Very heartened to see so much pushback and disgust against the racist comments. Proud of you guys, I really am.
https://twitter.com/EamonWhalen/status/1269398760049737728?s=08
What the hell?
every woke idiot in earth had a bone to chew this weekend…commit to defund the police department….morons
Seen that- what are they demanding? Un-policed communities? How would that even work?
This is actually great
it upsets the /pol/tards so it can’t be bad..
Surprised at the sparsity of coverage over the stabbing incident near Cork that was everywhere on social media over the weekend.
Can’t help wondering if the victim had been black and the alleged perpetrator white instead of the reverse of actually happened would there have been saturation coverage in the media instead.
It’s on the frontpage of several newspapers, Davy Duke.
And was reported on by RTÉ’s Paschal Sheehy but actual MSM coverage won’t suit the racist narrative so racists tend to ignore that, just as they don’t raise a hue and cry when white people get stabbed by white people and it’s not national news.
It’s on the front page of two Cork newspapers.If it was a black youth as the victim it would be getting wall to wall coverage – we’d already be having the heavyweight commentators weighing in and the TV programme bookers scouring their contacts book for a non-white talking head.Even someone with a good Covi-19 back garden tan would probably pass muster.The liberal media bias is alive and well in Ireland.
Stupid liberal media reporting on a crime in a national newspaper and ruining the racist’s pathetic argument.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/youth-17-due-in-court-after-teen-allegedly-stabbed-in-cork-1.4273354
but it wasn’t a black youth. what the fupp are you on about?
A few fun facts from the US of A to chew on when considering whether black lives matter more than anyone else.
In 2018, white people committed 3,953 murders. That’s a rate of 2 per 100,000. A comparable rate for black people would yield 880 murders.
There were 4,778.
In 2018, white people committed 12,794 rapes. That’s a rate of 6 per 100,000. A comparable rate for black people would yield 2,640 rapes.
There were 5,376.
In 2018, white people committed 29,025 robberies. That’s a rate of 14 per 100,000. A comparable rate for black people would yield 6,160 robberies
There were 36,187.
In 2018, white people committed 184,527 aggravated assaults. That’s a rate of 93 per 100,000. A comparable rate for black people would yield 40,920 aggravated assaults.
There were 100,393.
This trend continues with burglary, larceny theft, motor vehicle theft, arson, other assaults, forgery and counterfeiting, fraud, embezzlement, stolen property and literally every single crime category except for DUI, booze laws, and drunkenness.
Yup, real live crime rates.
With such massive disparities in crime rates, why on earth would you expect there to be no disparities anywhere else such as in the number of blacks who die at the hands of white AND black police officers.
If you don’t want the cops to kick the snot out of you why not consider killing,raping,robbing and all the other stuff a bad career move.
A ‘comparable rate’.
That’s some elegant twisting of numbers your doing there buddy.
There is nothing elegant about it Mill
Its ugly, crass, and deliberately overworked into an exaggerated blunderbuss.
The presentation of comparisons are deliberately painted to highlight a bigot’s own preferences, and what they want the reader to focus on.
As someone who is quite familiar with transcribing numerical information into text, I can recognise the writers intentional bias.
Even I would struggle to find a more disgusting and dangerous example of Window Dressing
I’m sure Milly was being sarcastic,
it’s one of the ugliest posts ever to “grace” BS
You’re welcome to disprove any of the facts and statistics I have presented.
White population: ~197 million
Black population: ~44 million
https://census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/PST045219
FBI UCR 2018
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u
Paddy I have already given your ugly soul more of my attention than it deserves, you can’t communicate with your kind of bias and hate and expect anything but a headache, so no thanks
there’s quite a lot of this going around on twitter and watsapp, including floyd’s prior criminal history and the whole ‘how can it be racist if a police officer stops a black guy from raping my daughter’ schtick.
Here I am lamenting the lack of the sarcastic font once again, J. You are, of course, correct – as you almost always are.
It’s good to get an example of this sort of disingenuous throwing-poo-at-the-wall approach to ‘debate’ here, where we get a barrage of statistics (which can be cut any which way to make any sort of point depending on what context is or isn’t given) and get told to disprove them because they are ‘facts’
Of course if you believe that simply presenting statistics is in itself inherently racist then you’re choosing to head down a dangerous path.However bad the stats are in explaining why blacks commit, disproportionately, a huge amount of violent and non-violent crime in America often against each other they don’t justify what happened to George Floyd.But they go a long way towards understanding why police departments all over America deal with black people in the way they do.
Interestingly many of the cities with the worst records of police brutality are Democrat-controlled and have a long history of black mayors and chiefs of police.
Things are a little more complicated than “all police are white racists ” but they tend to get lost in the fog of liberal virtue-signalling as many of the comments on here demonstrate.
But you didn’t simply present the statistics and figures, did you? If you had done that we would have had one simple figure to compare to another figure, eg. 100 per 100,000 < 130 per 100,000. But instead we get whatever you've warped logic you've applied above, where your biases are quite clearly affecting how you present the data. And then, of course, the link you've provided doesn't seem to be working.
And as Cian rightly points out below, these figures may well be indicative of how inherent racism factors into arrest figures in the US.
But by all means, dismiss any discussion of racism as 'virtue signalling'.
Its definitely up there anyway Janie
@Paddy. These are arrest figures I’m guessing (your link was incomplete).
If there the police are racist, then they are more likely to arrest (and prosecute) black people than white people.
Those statistics may be showing that inherit racism?
-you got a source there cracker-second link not working-im calling BS on your numbers and math happens with inbreeding.
‘he uses statistics the way a drunk uses a lampost; more for support than illumination..’
I read and reread the comment a number of times last night and thought it was a truly ugly and disgusting attempt to distort and warp numbers. It turned my stomach to read, as much as it did yours V.
ah shur’ I know well Mill
And you didn’t need to explain yerself to me
Far from it honey
X V
What do you mean by “committed”?
– eye witness to crime?
– people arrested for a crime?
– people convicted for a crime?
any figures for access to éducation, healthcare, job prospects etc, etc, you absolute silly
That’s not justification or reason for committing serious crime…you absolute silly.
the point is that theres a clear correlation between social and economic deprivation and likelihood of being convicted for a crime
if you give someone a fair chance in life, theyll lead a better life
skin colour has nothing to do with it
true dat. let’s see how the black areas of dublin turn out given access to employment welfare and education.
It’s a bit more complex than that, from what I’ve read. According to a major study in 2018, people from black communities are indeed less likely to achieve upward social mobility than their peers from other racial backgrounds.
The problem, according to the study, lies with black males and the family unit. The trajectory of black boys’ lives is shaped by the absence of black fathers. The problem is widespread among black communities and perpetuates across generations.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/21/opinion/class-race-social-mobility.html
A fundamental reason for that absence has been the disproportionate mass incarceration of black men. This began in the 70s with de-industrialisation of the US (which led to the loss of many blue-collar jobs), and escalated after the introduction of the “War on Drugs”, initiated by the NIxon administration around the same time.
But as later admitted by John Ehrlichman, Nixon’s domestic-policy adviser, the real reason the War on Drugs was set up was to target and disrupt black communities in order to stifle the rising black civil rights movement (and also to target the antiwar movement). Interestingly, Joe Biden played an instrumental role in greatly expanding the so called “War on Drugs” in the 80s and 90s.
https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/the-shocking-and-sickening-story-behind-nixons-war-on-drugs-that-targeted-blacks-and-anti-war-activists/
And bias everything to do with it Bruddar
exactly, and actually rape is a big problem in Sri Lanka and India for different social reasons, nothing to do with the colour of the skin
this was obvs meant for Paddy’s gibberish below
It was a ” clear correlation ” which made me kill that retired black police officer your honour.
Man, I just didn’t catch any breaks as I was growing up.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8397877/Man-24-charged-MURDER-death-retired-St-Louis-police-captain-David-Dorn.html
Is the lack of healthcare an excuse to rape someone ?
Education and job opportunities for blacks in America are far greater than somewhere like say Sri Lanka or Peru which don’t appear to compensate for this by staggering numbers of violent crime and murder.
Y’all can make up any excuses you like but the statistics clearly show if you want to be a bad boy you gotta expect some collateral damage.
You play with fire you gonna get burned Holmes.
Bad boys, bad boys
Whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do
When they come for you.
Holmes.
:)
Go easy on him, he actually it quite well for a Russian.
are you saying theres a racial bias within the criminal justice system?
I’ve heard that mentioned
really cringe when you guys try to use AAVE
plus megacringe
i also detest the white american vernacular english that you hear kids speak nowadays. i am determined that my kids grow up with a proper dublin accent and use as much dublin slang as possible.
My young wan called her grandad a gobshite yesterday, to my immense pride.
one to be proud of :)
Nobody said they mattered more.
That’s a vile
Disgusting post
Jesus t’night
Have I logged into the wrong gaff
This is the majority of posters here now
To be expected from pro-fa
Speaking of pro-fa , I see Bolsonaro is censoring the data on the effects of the virus . “nothing to see here , move along now “
Its amazing how anything to do with race really brings the dogs out..the comment section on this site is turning into an absolute pigsty.
“why on earth would you expect there to be no disparities anywhere else such as in the number of blacks who die at the hands of white AND black police officers”
I didn’t realise executing suspected criminals was part of the role of the police force.
Unfortunately there is some truth in those figures.
What I find interesting that there is a number of black critics of BLM coming forward now. The two main criticisms are that focusing exclusively on white on black murders is racist and that telling a group that they are oppressed is a means of dis-empowering them.
Here is a video from DC of a black woman challenging a BLM protest- there is a certain irony in a white woman lecturing a black woman about how she should feel. There appears to be Breitbart connection which means it will be dismissed by some but, it is an alternative view point and she certainly can hold her own.
Just reserve judgement and hear what she has to say eh? Her opinion on the subject is as valid as any other.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8uHTFbZXPE
It is a very weird and racist preoccupation of yours that members of X group unanimously and incorrectly hold Y view and thus anybody within that group who disagrees with Y must be correct and given more credibility due to their membership of said group. Just an endless playlist of videos of token people being used by right wing groups to push an agenda.
So it is racist to hear alternative BLACK opinions now is it?
It must be hard being you- lecturing gays and now lecturing blacks on the error of their ways.
every single one of your comments is so tiring and so disingenuous so as to make me wonder why i ever engage
An example of someone only seeing what they want to see
And interpreting matter in the way that suits, and what they are more familiar with
A formed view that slides in comfortably with their own predisposition
Could that not be said of all sides?
Indeed
Of which you yourself are a great example of
You have expressed your own views above in strong terms V- but IMO the subject is way more nuanced than that.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1269431162994335745
I’m not a bit afraid of who I am
I stand over everything I have ever written and everything I have ever Said
I don’t think anyone could accuse me of having flimsey wishy washy opinions
I walk my talk
And *guilt is something Irish women of my generation were groomed to live with and accept as our lot
Thankfully we shafted it
Exposed it and got a landslide to support us
That link you imported there is so typically ignorant and convenient
Yet so you
* + discrimination + sexism + chauvinism x misogyny²
that still exists today
An opinion from Christopher Wright- a political black man in NYC- is ignorant?
What is he saying that is so ignorant? He is calling out Antifa as racists and explains why. Unless you feel black people should only have one point of view on BLM of course?
As for discrimination, I lost two jobs because of being gay and could write a bloody book on it- but you won’t find any victim-hood here- nor with the likes of Chris.
The only person who seems to think black people are a hivemind capable of a singular opinion is you, such is the authority and apparent surprise you lend to black people having contrary and usually right wing views. You do this for literally every view and group possible. and then you have the gall to accuse other people of racism/homophobia/whatever for not agreeing.
where did my comment go ?
sorry for the profanity, I thought it was mild ;)
Oh flip oh gosh oh golly gee
But now we know how we touched on his sore spot
Oh crumbs oh boy oh sugar me
It’s plain to see what got him bothered and hot
We thought that it was just something that you said
But then we realized that it was all he played
‘Cause he can play crap on the radio (on the radio)
You can play crap on the radio (play crap on the radio)
Be careful what you say
And you can play ‘poo’ all day
‘Cause you can play crap on the radio, radio, radio
I’d go to a doctor for that if I were you
he might well get a stiff little finger somewhere he didn’t expect..
teehee, I get the music joke ! :)
The reason the British carry on about WWI and WW2 is that the rest of their history is not that pleasant. The empire wasn’t built on free trade and treating everyone equally. Hopefully, the Colston statue educates a few people.
this lad mightn’t be as easy to topple over but no doubt he’ll get his
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/not-his-finest-hour-the-dark-side-of-winston-churchill-2118317.html?__twitter_impression=true
Churchill was a racist ?
Wait till you hear about the other feller.
yer Ma’s a racist… probably, we are usually products of our environment
However it must be said that Churchill’s own lauding, defence and use of the expression Aryan Supremacy predates that other feller
And by more than a decade
If Hitler had been dead set on killing only brown people or the Irish, Churchill would have been his strongest ally.
and so it begins.
https://youtu.be/JtPfoEvNJ74
and so it ends.
A black dissident! Was she in the mind of Wolf Tone when he talked about Catholic, Protestant and Dissenter?
https://twitter.com/leedavies280/status/1269685360327561217
remember yesterday when i was getting stick for suggesting far right gobpoos were trying to use this attack to fuel their racewar narrative in this country. quelle surprise, I was correct.
pretty comprehensive thread on it here: https://twitter.com/soundmigration/status/1269643036365127680
i hope all the ‘i don’t listen to the MSM, i take on board news from all sources!’ types can admit they were played
Gemtrails’s comment halfway down that thread is pure nutbag.
madder than a bag of badgers
Lots of comments on those threads. Hard to know how you come to the conclusion that ‘far right’ are using it.
You do realize though that it was one of the friends of the attackers who recorded and posted the video? Is he Far Right?
“Hard to know how you come to the conclusion that ‘far right’ are using it.”
Did you look at the thread, specifically the post showing the screen grab of the post titled “Operation Carrigaline” claiming the attack was “clearly a racial assault” and saying “We are only a small nationalist community in Ireland so we need help”? Or the post showing the video titled “Irish Teenagers Terrorised by Violent Black Supremacists”?
Hard to know how you could see that and not come to the conclusion that the far right are using it.
Sounds like a fundraiser
Please tell me I’m wrong
As stupid as they are, I don’t think those lads would’ve just absconded with the money from the gofundme. I think the con here was somewhat more indirect, in that they were actively hoping that the gofundme (which was rapidly set up, very clearly not done by a family member or friend and which contained a number of very racist donation comments) *would* be shut down. Once that was done, they could play the victim and say that official Ireland or whatever was denying money to a victim of ‘black crime’ because of political correctness or whatever you’re having yourself
Ya wha’ War’
there is a fundraiser
ffs
Jesus Christ, its sicker and grubbier this Country is getting
Sounds like a scam actually.
Mrs Merton: So GiggidyKKKlu, what first attracted you to alt-right, racist media ideology?
KKKlu: I only post links to the nice ones that I obsess about and cheer for
I’ll file you into the same classification as MaryLou.
Please don’t.
I wouldn’t like to be associated with a known pederast defender and paedo excuser!
Oh you mean the MaryLou that comments on here?
Every time you remember Grace please spare a thought for Liam Adams’ daughter Áine Tyrell
Drop into the Fowler some Sunday and ask Ed O’Briens da for some bus fare money
Eh.. that whole thread and almost all of the actors involved is a rabbit hole of deluded racist nationalism and pseudo patriotic gombeen oirish eejit’s confused by pseudo-social media and empowering each other with the herd mentality of a flock of chickens.
You know you’re in the wrong place when eventually you come accross the self-inflated egomaniacal dim-witted narcissist.. eejit par excellance.. John McGuirk.
Turn off all your phones and computers and go read a book. You dumb f…’s!..
BTW: Clearly, without a proper mechanism for moderation of graphic content or any serious regulation at all, this type of pseudo-social media is causing more problems than it’s worth…
Ditch twitter and keep your kids away from it.. or at least warn them it’s not real… for the mental health of future civil society.
The trustworthy and healthy version of social media
– https://joinmastodon.org/
:-J – htt
Well eff you anyway Wario
I followed both those links
and I’m telling ye
I’m not the better of it
That 4Chan stuff – the screen grabs, actually made me nauseous
And that fundraiser – Jesus,
Well That’s me told anyway – I never believed that was the kinda money these minor Latter Day Patriots were attracting
Feck, lads
I am sincerely shook
Some stuff now, like
Stuff that was done and said – over the last couple of years
Feck, all makes so much more sense now
Looks like I owe the Bog Lawyer Kevin Higgins an apology
My skin is actually creepy crawling
Why the apology to Kevin Higgins?…
Anyway, here.. this will cheer you up a bit and give you some hope foe the future…
Pseudo -social media is inherantly and intentionally designed to capture everyone’s attention and keep them using it.
The whole system has also both naturally and somewhat unintentionally been allowed to evolve to polarise people into extremes because when people are angry they get more passionate, emotional, more involved so they stay online longer, keep paying more attention, interacting and clicking , commenting, clicking, engaging, consuming more content i.e. adverts and ultimately being manipulated even more and more every day, week, month.. year on year…
Jarod Lanier, technoly / internet genius, futurist and philosopher explains the problems of it all in this short summary everone should watch, then pass on to others and teach to their kids:
How social media ruins your life.
– https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc_Jq42Og7Q
Watch his other talks too if you want a clearer picture on what is going on
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=jarod+lanier
Also,
Shoshana Zuboff, Harvard Professor / Scholar described as ” a true prophet of the information age”.. on “Surveillance capitalism” as mentioned in the previous video.
– https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL4bz3QXWEo
Both Channel 4 Interviews worth watching from the past year..
Like facederp, twits-urgh? has had it’s 15 minutes… and failed…
DELETE your pseudo-social media accounts…
SHUT DOWN – CTRL+ALT+DEL – ABORT / EJECT etc. etc.
-J – ht
Ah t’was nothing ontoward really – the apology to Kevin is because I dismissed his advices about activities being conducted by some people on the darker side of life via social media accounts, and how they use them.
Mind you after learning who was behind a particular nasty set of emails and let’s just say ‘posts’ and other stuff – I suppose I should have been more copped on
And a lot less Mumsie about it
Jesus – that 4 Chan stuff
F’ me lads
No matter what anyone’s views, politics, preferences or bias’ are
To manipulate 17 year olds – minors in fact
Like that was nothing short of cold blooded
I hope for whoever’s sake they got the permission of the stabbing victim’s parents/ Guardian before that fundit was opened
It makes for grim reading.
I think there is some comfort to realising these people are a tiny, tiny minority in every sense.
But it’s key that we remain vigilant in combating them and educating people too. These lads were straight onto that video yesterday morning trying to push an agenda, sharing it, pushing race war conspiracies etc. Outlets like The Liberal have started to launder a lot of the most obnoxious takes on it for a wider audience too. If not for the unplanned efforts of a few, this could’ve ran for days as a handy bit of far right propaganda and I think that serves to show the importance of the non-fascists of Ireland chipping in to defeat this type of muck.
Very heartened to see so much pushback and disgust against the racist comments. Proud of you guys, I really am.