55 thoughts on “Tuesday’s Papers

    1. Gerry

      Sent today to ec-president-vdl@ec.europa.eu

      I know it’s useless, but here’s to beating my head against the wall, Skibbereen Eagle etc.

      Re: Commissioner Phil Hogan

      Madam president,

      As you are no doubt aware, Commissioner Phil Hogan attended a golf event last Wednesday that contravened Irish laws and regulations on social distancing, enacted to restrict the spread of Covid-19. Irish politicians have resigned positions because they attended the event. EU politicians should be held to the same standards, therefore Hogan must resign.

      Or do you think that EU politicians represent a special caste who need not bother with laws and regulations intended for the commoners?

      Perhaps you think you should impose a different (and lesser) punishment than that favoured by the Irish government and the overwhelming majority of Irish citizens. You should not.

      Hogan must resign, if he doesn’t you must fire him.

      Sincerely,

      My name

      1. Jack Of Ireland

        In the French model the EU is run by an unaccountable elite, as demonstrated by the lack of EU accounts

        1. GiggidyGoo

          The line “Hogan’s popularity back home might take a temporary hit, but that would be nothing new: It’s the reason he was nominated to the Commission in the first place.” in that article shows that some journalists are living in cloud cuckoo-land.
          Hogan isn’t popular back home, not even in his Kilkenny home – I remember the greeting he got on stage at Nowlan Park when he tried to become part of the homecoming celebrations of the All-Ireland champions. He was literally booed off the stage.
          The reason he was nominated in the first place was to get shut of him out of the country.

          1. goldenbrown

            lads, I refer to my comment yesterday
            Phil Hogan is the honeypot
            he’s successfully drawing the commentary away from the other 100-odd bad actors who attended
            no jobs will be lost here especially his (if anything it will enhance his career prospects)
            by the weekend it’ll be “let’s move on etc.” and you’ll start seeing likes of Cian and Rob_G commenting again lol

            #FreeTheStationHouse81

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oireachtas_Golf_Society_scandal

            yes, it has it’s own wikipedia page :)

          2. Cian

            As I already said, I’m not condoning anyone behaviour- they all need to take responsibility for attending/staying at the dinner. But there is a difference between a Minister resigning (he’s still a TD)/or the Leas-Cathaoirleach resigning (he’s still a Senator) versus a High Court judge or EU Commissioner.

            If the latter need to resign/retire then the two TDs and the six Senators should also leave their seats.

          3. goldenbrown

            that’s v.funny Janet, thanks enjoyed that

            it also points to one thing that FFG are scared to death of – social media
            that’s a battle they are losing on a daily basis

          4. Junkface

            Do Gemma O’D and Waters just sit around all day talking rubbish and posting it online? They don’t actually have jobs anymore, and can probably afford to sit around waffling and vegitating, but the people they’re misleading probably have no financial security from the crisis. It’s actually harming them much more.

    1. SOQ

      Amazing how fast this scare story has spread since yesterday- at what point does a different strain become a different virus?

    2. Jack Of Ireland

      The scientists consistently stated that previous infection did not provide immunity, so this is not a surprise

      1. SOQ

        ‘The Scientists’

        No SOME scientists say that- others say different- and the current lack of hospitlisations or fatalities very much indicates the second group are correct.

        1. Junkface

          @Pat Mustard
          Do you know how ridiculous these conspiracies against Bill Gates are? The man has helped to eradicate serious diseases in Africa more than any other millionaire or Billionaire ever! He has done incredible work for humanity. Compared to someone like Steve Jobs of equal wealth at one point, who did shag all for charitable causes. The mentally ill Qanon trolls just throw him into their theories because he is world famous, that’s all that is going on. Mental illness via social media.

          1. Pat Mustard

            @ Junkface..

            ROFL..

            “The man has helped to eradicate serious diseases in Africa more than any other millionaire or Billionaire ever!”

            What diseases did he help eradicate in Africa?

            “He has done incredible work for humanity.”

            Such as..?

            “The mentally ill Qanon trolls just throw him into their theories because he is world famous, that’s all that is going on. Mental illness via social media.”

            Wow, not hypocritical, considering you pushed the hilariously ludicrous evidence free conspiracy theory that Trump is a Russian asset..

          2. Nigel

            Junkface pushed a conspiracy theory that Trump was a Russian asset? Are you sure you don’t mean that various reports have shown that Russia interfered in the US election of 2016 in Trump’s favour and that Trump solicited and willingly accepted that help? Junkface is pretty sensible about most things, that seems more likely. Where do you stand on Qanon these days as a matter of interest? Still a true believer or has it gone too cringe even for you?

          3. Pat Mustard

            JF and you pushed the evidence free conspiracy theory that Trump is a Russian asset.

            So you believe the same institutions that lied about every war the US ever took part in?

            Not gullible at all..

            Did the FBI examine the DNC server?

            Crowd strike have stated there is no direct evidence that Russia interfered with the 2016 election..

            Due you have precise evidence that interference took place or are you just easily led?

            Never mentioned Quanon, don’t know anything about it.

            Is he a murdered Ukrainian journalist that didn’t die by any chance?

            “RIP Arkady Babchenko”

            – Nigel

            ROFL

          4. Nigel

            Oh, no, I’ve never said he was a ‘Russian asset.’ I’ve never pushed anything. I’ve just noted what the reports say. That Russia interfered with the US election in Trump’s favour, and he solicited and used that assistance.

            Never heard of Quanon? I see. Can I just check whether you think the Sandy Hook Massacre was real? And the moon landing, while we’re at it?

            Wouldn’t it be nice if all those murdered Russian journalists and political opposition members turned out to be alive after all?

          5. Pat Mustard

            “Oh, no, I’ve never said he was a ‘Russian asset.’ I’ve never pushed anything. I’ve just noted what the reports say. That Russia interfered with the US election in Trump’s favour, and he solicited and used that assistance.”

            So you’re saying he’s a Russian asset.
            And your doubling down on the dud Mueller report, brought to you by the same people who lied about, Iraq, Afghanistan, Lybia, Syria, Anthrax (see f_lawless comment under Baggott St article) but they’re not lying now, and you have no evidence to back it up.

            And just to nail it down, the FBI never examined the DNC server, and counter strike stated no direct evidence. That makes it an evidence free conspiracy theory. By your own sentiments your a loon.

            “Never heard of Quanon? I see. Can I just check whether you think the Sandy Hook Massacre was real? And the moon landing, while we’re at it?”

            Never looked at quanon, I’ve heard of it but never took the time to look into any of it. Not for me.

            Citing SH and ML stinks of desperation much like your” have you photos of the alleged rape, perhaps you should give them to the guards.. ” re you giving Joe Biden a pass for raping a staffer.. Your out of your depth..

            ” Wouldn’t it be nice if all those murdered Russian journalists and political opposition members turned out to be alive after all? ”

            ” RIP Arkady Babchenko”

            You wrote it, now own it. Obviously you’ve no evidence of any murdered Russian journalists, just like Junkface..

          6. Nigel

            Again, Pat Mustard, I’m just saying what the reports are saying, take it or leave it, your online friends who aren’t Qanon are obviously much more credible. Those guys know a baseless conspiracy theory when they see one, that for sure!

            Yeah, it’s best to never have had anything whatsoever to do with Qanon and pizzagate for that matter. Pfft, those? Never heard of ’em! Did you have to ‘look up’ Sandy Hook and the moon landing too?

            You SAID you had pictures, Pat Mustard, i just advised you what to do with them if you had them.

            Oh, sorry. They all fell off balconies and contracted mysterious deadly illnesses. Silly me.

          7. Pat Mustard

            Just like I thought, hollow bs. You’re evidence free conspiracy theories suit you. Own them.

          8. Nigel

            I’ll happily own that the reports about Russian interference said what they did and that Putin is a murdeorus bastard. I really like how Qanon and pizzagate and Sandy Hook Trutherism are now things nobody wants to admit to ever owning.

          9. Pat Mustard

            You happily own an evidence free conspiracy theory, dolled out by proven liars just so it fits with your wafer thin narrative.

            Jaysus, so a contrarion as well as a conspiracy theorist.

            Lovely. That was easy.

          10. Nigel

            I mean, that’s what the reports say. If you want proof that that’s what the reports say, read the reports.

          11. Pat Mustard

            Should I read the Iraq report or the Lybia report or the Afghanistan and Syria reports, or the anthrax report?

            They were all false Nigel. What makes you think the Russian interference report is truthful?

            The only direct witnesses, counter strike, have stated no direct interference so what’s the case for interference?

          12. Nigel

            Yes, read all the reports. I find the Mueller report more credible than those because there wasn’t an entire administration pushing him to tailor the report to make a particular finding to justify their policies. Quite the opposite. The president’s personal hitman at the head of DOJ did everything to tie Mueller’s hands, and to cover for interference and obstruction. So it doesn’t seem like the same sort of situation at all.

          13. Pat Mustard

            “I find the Mueller report more credible than those because there wasn’t an entire administration pushing him to tailor the report to make a particular finding to justify their policies. Quite the opposite. The president’s personal hitman at the head of DOJ did everything to tie Mueller’s hands, and to cover for interference and obstruction. ”

            And yet you can’t even tell me how the Russians interfered.

            Evidence free conspiracy theory.

            The Mueller report is a joke, just like his testimony.

            Blaming Barr is just sour grapes.

  1. GiggidyGoo

    https://extra.ie/2020/08/25/news/irish-news/phil-hogan-kildare-second-visit-golf-gate
    Hogan seemingly went back to Kildare a second time – this time, after the golf flaunting.

    I find it difficult to believe that the first time, he had to collect important documents to do with trade agreements. Such a high level commissioner wouldn’t have the authority to bring such documents home as an individual would be? I mean – security wise – going home on holiday, bringing important papers with him to be left strewn around his home, personally driving (hired car?), bringing such documents to a golf outing (probably leaving them in the car, or at best in his hotel room – then again he might have them stuffed into a pocket on his golf bag)

    If that’s the level of care that he takes with EU documents, and he remains on as commissioner, then any potential trading partners of the EU will think twice about dealing with him. Confidentiality on a razor edge.

    1. Sam

      He stopped by his apartment, at a golf complex to get ‘documents’ before going to a golf game, and then returned there to store said ‘documents’ again. I’d say the 9 iron and putter are being slightly misidentified here…

  2. :-Joe

    pat “the establishment plank” kenny condems trump in favour of barack 7 X war criminal obama then introduces his speech writer who literally explains that he’s been writing pretty much all of the leader “of hope and changes for the elites” words for the past 14 years…

    drumpf is a symptom not a cause… If you abandon the economic future for 90% of your population, just lookingas far back as NAFTA and ignore their basic needs for decades then what do you expect them to vote for eventually in a fake democracy and pseudo-election duopoly?..
    – “I’m with her” -clinton 2016?… haha..

    It was always the republicans to lose, even with drumpf but clinton thought she could steal it and was badly wrong… Forget the popular vote, the oligarchy didn’t back her in the electoral college racket and some of the people just helped to secure it.

    People who are intentionally beaten down and made fools but they’re not all totally insane.. All of the time

    He may be technically a better option in a least worst scenario but biden like obama is a vote for the same other half of the corrupt oligarchy and a cop out for real change that reuires a third or more options that represent the people.

    The odds have halved already from 40/1 on a drumpf win 362 (+/-10)electoral college votes…
    – Unfortunately, but it’s been an irrelevant fact since march or 2016 in reality.. because the game is rigged and it’s not about winning.

    Ireland better sort out an alternative to these golfing eejits or soon enough we’ll end up replicating a similar outcome or other people’s daft ideas and failed ways of living a life… as usual.

    Oh wait, great, time to buy another overpriced neoliberal “standard of living destroying” commodity, spy phone, thanks jess / newsderp INC.

    :-J

    1. Nigel

      https://twitter.com/rgoodlaw/status/1298309798702780417
      ‘Trump would dream up medieval plots “to pierce human flesh” of migrants. Wanted to “maim” “gas” and “shoot” migrants. On family separation, Trump said, “I want to make it ten times as bad.”‘

      Y’know what, I think I stand my evaluation of Trump and the Republicans as evil, and that Biden is the moral choice, no matter how much you dislike the Democrats.

        1. Nigel

          So if you had the vote, would you vote for Trump? Or abstain, effectively voting for Trump? Wait’ll you find out about his record of rape and sexual assault accusations, though. He was even recorded boasting about it.

          1. bisted

            …like all those millions who couldn’t hold their nose for a few minutes and come out to vote for crooked Hillary…hate that…

          2. Pat Mustard

            “Wait’ll you find out about his record of rape and sexual assault accusations..”

            You literally can’t say anything re misogy, you gave Biden a pass and still think he’s morally upright.

          3. Nigel

            Now, now, don’t wriggle. Just curious. If the issue were misogyny and the candidates were Biden and Trump, which would you vote for?

          4. Nigel

            I’m not, though I acknowledge he says a lot of tthe right things. I’m less of a fan of Biden. Actually, I’m not a fan of any of them, though I like Warren’s competence. I would wholehertedly support Sanders if he had been the nominee. What, you’d expect me act like SOME Sanders supporters and whine about it and snipe at the actual nominee instead of trying to defeat Trump?

          5. Pat Mustard

            “Warren’s competence..”

            She is probably the most disingenuous candidate ever, a former republican who lies like the best of them, outdoing herself by calling Bernie a sexist at the end of the primary. And than when she bowed out she decided to endorse Biden just to spite Bernie. She’s horrible.

            If Trump wins, it’s because of Warren.

            “What, you’d expect me act like SOME Sanders supporters and whine about it and snipe at the actual nominee instead of trying to defeat Trump?”

            Showing your true colours yet again .. You never supported Bernie, you’re 100% Biden.

            Just like Hillary he’ll lose to political novice game show host and make the Democrats look like clowns once again.

            Its as if they want Trump to win.

            NB: Warren voted for all Trumps military budgets and bombings. The only one who didn’t was Bernie Sanders.

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