How Adare You? [Updated]

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European Trade Commissioner Phil Hogan’s statement and timeline with no mention of visiting Limerick on August 12; Dunraven Arms Hotel, Adare, County Limerick (top left)

Meanwhile…

EU Commissioner Phil Hogan stayed in a Limerick hotel and ate at a restaurant in Adare on August 12, one day before his 14-day isolation period was due to expire.

Multiple sources have confirmed to the Irish Examiner that Mr Hogan stayed in the Dunraven Arms Hotel on the night before he played a round of golf at Adare Manor.

Golfgate: Phil Hogan was in Limerick day before mandatory isolation due to expire (Irish Examiner)

Earlier: Essential Or Non-Essential?

Too Phil To Fail?

Update:

Tonight.

Update:

Get him.

Meanwhile

Um.

Update:

Ah here.

UPDATE:

Gulp.

Update:

Thanks for clearing that up, Phil.

78 thoughts on “How Adare You? [Updated]

  1. steve white

    Didn’t think Phil Hogan (or Dara Calleary) should lose their jobs for their actions re Clifden but Phil Hogan should lose his job for his actions in the last week.

  2. broadbag

    Hogan is saying his negative test in hospital ended the need for him to restrict his movements, he’s one slippery customer is Big Phil, having previously stated that he restricted his movements for 14 days no?

    1. broadbag

      Here it is:

      ”Prior to the event, I had complied fully with the government’s quarantine requirements, having been in Ireland since late July.”

      – no mention of hospital test negating the need to restrict movements, the mention of ‘late July’ implying he had done his full 14 days, hmmm…

  3. Andyourpointiswhatexactly?

    He wasn’t in the Adare Manor: wrong photo. He was across the road. In the Dunraven Arms where us plebs go. It’s lovely.

      1. Andyourpointiswhatexactly?

        Nod a bodder, boy.
        Though I screwed up by putting ‘the’ in front of Adare Manor. Sigh.

  4. goldenbrown

    Dunraven Arms…a class gaff back in the day
    busier than the kip across the road
    I don’t blame him for staying there…at the time they did the best steaks on the entire island

    1. Andyourpointiswhatexactly?

      It’s still lovely. I love having lunch there. Adare Manor is like Ballyfin: you can’t just wander in for a nose.

      1. goldenbrown

        personally I HATE snooty places
        been fortunate enough to have stayed in many 5*’s and a couple of 6*’s over the years and it’s entirely possible to attain top of the top excellence without the pretences
        couple of years ago due to some travel shenanigans we were somehow put up in the famous castle 30 mins up the road from the Arms for a couple of days….gawd the fake french snootyness shape throwing with The Quiet Man for the Americans combo was toe curling

        1. Andyourpointiswhatexactly?

          I don’t think you can ever have proper craic in a 5*. It’s too try-hard.

          1. Janet, dreams of big guns

            I have but it horrified the other guests and myself the next morning tbh …

          2. Janet, dreams of big guns

            as the man himself is reported to have said on his deathbed “Bugger Bognor ! “

        2. Lilly

          I enjoyed it, found it elegant and low key with delicious breakfast & afternoon tea and lovely grounds the one time I stayed there, admittedly eons ago, circa 2011. Maybe the atmosphere has changed since they upgraded a few years ago.

  5. GiggidyGoo

    He got the results of the Covid test then overnight? Some service eh? One rule for him, one for us?

    I see he didn’t give the full link to where he says that a negative result ends the self-isolation, though he may be correct. However the self-isolation refers to inbound travel into the country, and not a get-out for a lockdown situation.

    1. Cian

      If you look at the timeline so helpfully provided you can see:
      31 July: Arrival in Ireland (14 day self-isolation starts)
      5/6 August: Hospital & negative result (self-isolation no longer necessary)
      7 August: Move to Kilkenny
      8 August: Lockdown starts

      He wasn’t in any of the three counties when the lockdown started – so lockdown didn’t apply to him… He also just had a negative test result so there is minimal risk of spreading it (from Kildare).

      1. goldenbrown

        look at us all zoomed in, squabbling over minutiae around Hogan’s sock drawer instead of the expanse of the broad offence and shaking down all those other attendees

        stop burning your calories on Phil Hogan

        that’s what your Govt. wants

        1. :-Joe

          100% & consistently so…

          The lot of them are all having the last cackle together…
          -Probably joking about it right now in the bilderburg members bar / torture dungeon.

          :-J

        1. GiggidyGoo

          But there is to adhere to lockdown. He travelled into Kildare, and stopped off during lockdown.

          1. Cian

            He did. Twice.

            He also provided reasons for both stop-offs – which he considers to be “reasonable”. If they are “reasonable excuses” then he didn’t break the law.

          2. GiggidyGoo

            ‘If’
            I’m still trying to figure out how he could be in Adare and Kilkenny at the same time though.

      1. Cian

        And I wonder did he update his contact details, as required under SI181, after he took up residence in a place other than the place of residence specified in the Covid-19 Passenger Locator Form.
        These forms are destroyed 28 days after arrival, so they need to check if they exist before Friday!

  6. JEH

    Just keeps getting better.

    This guy couldn’t even deliver wind during a hurricane or manage a sandwich in a sack lunch. How vital can he truly be?

  7. GiggidyGoo

    So, 12th August he travelled to Dublin to meet Varadkar about US-EU trade talks. (Would have brought the documents with him then?)
    He then (he says) returned to Kilkenny that evening (12th August)
    Yet he was dining that evening, 12th August, in Adare.

    From the Examiner:

    “Mr Hogan’s spokesman has confirmed the commissioner played golf on August 13, but did not address specific queries from the Irish Examiner about his presence in Adare the night before.

    He was seen dining at the Limerick restaurant in the town on August 12, the same day that he had met with Tánaiste Leo Varadkar in Dublin, a meeting a spokesperson had said was “essential”.

    On further questioning, the spokesperson said that Mr Hogan had travelled to Adare from Kilkenny but “he did not know on which date”.”

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40037582.html

    Another horse and cart driven through the fable then? Unless he can be two places at the same time.

    Has Varadkar verified that the meeting took place on 12th by the way? Maybe he now has to be a little careful in case he too gets dragged down.

  8. Haroo

    Straight from the citizensinformation website:

    “When to stop self-isolating

    Only stop self-isolating after 14 days have passed and you have had no symptoms. If you have symptoms, only stop self-isolating when:

    You have had no fever for 5 days, andIt has been 14 days since you first developed symptoms.”

  9. Haroo

    Sorry one more. Again copy and paste from their website:

    Last updated: 14 August 2020 at 5.55pm

    You will need to restrict your movements for 14 days if you:

    are a close contact of a confirmed case of coronaviruslive with someone who has symptoms of coronavirus, but you feel wellarrive into Ireland from a country that is not on the COVID-19 green list – this list is updated every 14 days by the Government

    If you are a close contact of a confirmed case you have to restrict your movements for 14 days even if your test comes back negative. This is because it can take up to 14 days for the virus to show up in your system after you have been exposed to it.

    1. Andyourpointiswhatexactly?

      One man ‘spirit of the law and public health recommendations’ breaker.
      Not as catchy.

  10. frank

    Phil Hogan is providing a useful service to the public.

    Get tested for Covid-19. If you’re negative you can come and go as you please.
    That satisfies Irish and European statutory instruments.

    Now if I was one of those individuals that were detained by the Guards or prosecuted for travel restriction I would be looking for a Covid 19 test to prove otherwise and be recompensed for the inconvenience.

      1. Janet, dreams of big guns

        Well I for one won’t be left cooking for a baying angry mob who all like their beef Wellington at different hues of pink, haha, I’ll have my feet up ! Let them eat cornflakes !

    1. Slightly Bemused

      Not true, according to HSE in a statement after his interview on RTE. An interesting interview where he said he did not care what the HSE said. I recommend anyone who did not already to watch it. the arrogance is arrant.

  11. Liam Deliverance

    Did he not say or did someone report that he left Kildare 2 days before lockdown to go to Hosp appointment in Kilkenny, then he convalesced in Kilkenny before stopping off in Kildare before heading to Galway.

    Also can you get a covid test and result that quick?

      1. Paulus

        …meh, a phrase that’s often used.
        (Next).
        Then I bag “So” as the opening word to EVERY answer nowadays.

  12. Slightly Bemused

    And the hits just keep on coming!

    I prefer the ones Nick’s competition finds. While these are coming out just like the recent wonderful troves of musical delight in the competitions, these ones evoke dismay.

    Edit: I should add here I watched the interview on RTE, and to be fair to Tony Connelly, he really gave no ground and pushed, while being very polite. At one point, I thought Phil Hogan was going to snap angrily.

    Also, Tony, and all crew the camera showed as Mr Hogan entered, wore a mask. Big Phil did not. as they are for the protection of those around you, this again shows a disdain for others in preference to his own comfort.

  13. Termagant

    At times like this I think it’s important to remember that the very worst outcome for Phil in this situation is that he’s forced to resign from Brussels and retire on 60 grand a year of money we put in his pockets

    1. Slightly Bemused

      One of the reasons I dislike the ‘I tendered my resignation’ farce. If they are fired, they don’t get the pension. So they get to resign. Problem solved for the politicos, but still they get sorted.

      Not to mention the private deals that will come through after.

  14. gringo

    Save yeer outrage for this phoney war. Tis a fine distraction for an administration thats falling asunder. The three amigos have eventually agreed on something, that Phil is a bit of a bollix, but shure we knew that anyway. I suppose it beats having to deal with real life.

  15. Truth in the News

    Had Hogan any other person in his company, had he a minder, how many phones did he have
    in his possession, since he was engaged in Trade Negotiation’s with of all people…the yanks
    how secure was his communication channels, and his documentation, then there is the other
    issue surrounding Cliften and the Golf Venue, what security did the Guards provide, given
    that there were so many big wigs in such a location, what else has the Commissioner
    not told Helen MacIntee,there is more to this than using a mobile phone

  16. GiggidyGoo

    Hogan said in his submission to Von der Leyen, and in his interview with Connolly that citizensinformation.ie was funded by the HSE. It is NOT.

    Citizensinformation.ie also issued a statement which is at odds with Hogan’s ‘explicit’ claim.
    https://whatsnew.citizensinformation.ie/2020/08/25/statement-from-the-citizens-information-board/

    Hogan has tried to pull the wool over Von der Leyen’ eyes big time. Ashe won’t thank him for that. Nor will she thank Varadkar for placing Hogan in Europe a second time.

      1. GiggidyGoo

        I know. I got used to insomnia over the past couple of months, so my sleep pattern has been all over the place.
        But I’ll never let the possibility of a dig at people like Hogan pass, regardless of the time of day or night.
        There are too many unanswered questions, and each day brings another batch.

        There’s a distinct lack of thought-out come-back from the usual apologists, which disappoints me though. It’s too easy at the moment.

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