Simon Harris, Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science, at government buildings this afternoon.
I ask why it’s ok to open them now when it wasn’t in July, or then August, and yet it is in September when the national situation has deteriorated. Harris says NPHET has advised it is no riskier than other pubs; also points to enactment of laws to increase punishment for breaches
— Gavan Reilly (@gavreilly) September 8, 2020
This afternoon.
Earlier…
Pre-rona boozing in Dublin city
Via RTÉ:
It is understood that the Cabinet has agreed that pubs that do not serve food will be able to reopen from 21 September.
This will be subject to local restrictions that may arise from time to time.
Draft Government guidelines, which were drawn up in conjunction with Fáilte Ireland, were circulated to vintners’ groups last weekend.
They are broadly the same as those that have been brought in for pubs where food is being served.
Hic.
Reopening of all pubs set for 21 September (RTÉ)
Earlier: A Limerick A Day
Meanwhile…
TJ McInerney a pubpican from Mullinahone, Co Tipperary, makes a passionate plea outside Leinster House calling for clear promises around the reopening of pubs #iestaff pic.twitter.com/BirIKuVmaN
— Elaine Loughlin (@Elaine_Loughlin) September 8, 2020
This afternoon.
Outside Leinster House, Dublin 2.
TJ McInerney, of T.J Mac’s pub in Mullinahone, County Tipperary breaks down as he joins other publicans in calling for the re-opening of so-called ‘wet pubs’.
There will be a special place in hell for the bottom-wipe who came up with the pathetic term “wet pubs”. And answer to a question nobody asked.
Similarly; “social distancing” was an equally poor choice with unfortunate implications:
Safe Space for example would have been better.
But someone coined it and the first phrase out of the traps usually wins.
What makes it so bad? I’ve seen a few people on forums have the same opinion as you but I couldn’t see why it’s so annoying. I’m not arguing by the way, I only learned what it means yesterday.
Wet pubs is a ter
Calling ’bout time!
I hope they have the power-washers ready on the morning of the 22nd.
Heh.
Yuck.
Does this mean we are to stop eating and just drink pints now?
…but remain seated at all times.
Seems to me like everything is going to be alright
As if everyone has been eating. I have yet to speak to one person who ate or stayed just 90 minutes during their trip to a pub in the last few months.
Like the document for food-serving pubs, the document for non-food-serving pubs is long and tedious. However, if the Irish Examiner’s precis of 24 main points from the document is accurate, it would seem that the writers have either never been into the really traditional pubs, especially those in small towns and villages, or just wish to keep them closed ad infinitum – though these are the pubs that experience little in the way of problem behaviour and where the publicans are stalwart members of the local community and supporters of local activities, traditional music, etc. Most of the requirements would be totally unworkable in these pubs. In fact, any pub that could meet the requirements would very likely have been serving food so that it could already be open.
The idea that the small friendly village pub could have space for socially-distanced tables and that the number of servers to a table could be anything but ‘limited’ (when there is only one person behind the bar anyway, except at really busy times, when both the husband and wife are there together) and that there could possibly be a queuing system for the loos (sorry – ‘bathrooms’) are so ludicrous as to defy belief.
The idea that the friendly publican is to be expected, every now and again to announce to those present that everyone should socially-distance and wash their hands, etc, is horrendous. It is annoying enough in a supermarket when it comes over the tannoy but at least it is one of a number of announcements, all of which one can tune out, but in a pub? It is as pointless, anyway, as the multitude of yellow signs everywhere. Everyone knows the guidance by now and will obey it, if they are so minded, because they believe it is right and/or that is it required. If they do not wish to obey it, no amount of repetition will do anything but make them more determined to go their own way and may also irritate the waverers into definite disobedience.
This is a document aimed at the large city pub. The requirements are unworkable in very many traditional pubs and would make the pub totally unappealing, if they were to be applied.
sure who’s going to check or implement any of that in the back of beyond
Nowhere is the back of beyond when it comes to Covid restrictions and their enforcement, I can assure you.
Excellent news.
Although I couldn’t help laughing when he lost it at the end.
“We want our GAA back too Michael”
Just in time for Christmas.
could you imagine the twelve-pubs-of-Christmas™ otherwise? Having to eat 12 sets of pub food! Yikes!
Ah it’s The People’s Minister for Health
People on the southside breath a collective sigh of relief
“He’s back!”
Harris must be missing the cut and thrust of the Dept. of Health. Or else, he’s trying to steal a march on Donnelly. Two failures
It’s just like Rocky II all over again
MINISTER VS MINISTER
“This time.. it’s personal”
Do they know anything in Dublin at all
DON’T MESS WITH THE MULLINAHONE LADS
They’ll cut through anyone and anything
with everything they have
and they don’t care who’s watching
or who they’re playing or who they’re marking
Talk about Senior Hurling
HA
This is the real Hurling now bhiys
In his Tipp Colours n’all
There’s over 300 cases today, 160 in Dublin alone.
300 actual cases, or 300 examples of dead virus fragments found in swabs?
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/06/15/871186164/what-zebra-mussels-can-tell-us-about-errors-in-coronavirus-tests?t=1597622325959
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54000629
Kildare was locked down at 65 per 100,000. Dublin was at 60 yesterday.
Another factor to consider is that there’s more testing being done these days than ever before. For example, last Thursday saw the most tests done in any one day (more than 14,000) since the pandemic began. More and more test centres are opening up. As Prof. Heneghan said at the Oireachtas Covid Committee Hearing – ‘a rise in detected cases’ is not synonymous with ‘a rise in cases’.
Correlation doesn’t imply causation.
The opposite may be true: there are more tests being done because the number of positives is going up.
In Ireland:
June had 85,000 tests: 483 positive (0.57%)
July had 203,300 tests: 592 positive (0.29%)
August had 206,900 tests: 2,746 positives (1.33%)
July had over twice as many tests as June – but the positive-rate halved.
August had about the same number of tests as July – but the positive rate jumped 400%.
We are seeing more positive cases because a greater number of people are positive.
Pubs are over priced, hopefully a thing of the past like video shops.
How can we Netflixise pubs?
Hmm.
I’ll do a bit of blue-sky thinking in my inspiration isolation station and get back to you.
Drink in public spaces and friends houses.
so get pissed on from the heavens pretty much all year while freezing your diddys off and rarely have a good chin yarn with a complete stranger or someone you would meet out of your social circle…sad
I’m sure global climate will warm things up.
Can still chat to a stranger on a public bench
‘Hello, kind sir. You seem to have soiled your pants.’
Oh I thought this was a wet pub?
Wet pubs is an English term used to describe a drinking pub with no food just chicken wings for the darts team on darts night
And many of these pubs specialise on real ale or what it is referred to as over here craft beer