…and the moral of the story is…become a politician not a publican…oh wait…
Rosette of Sirius
He deserves all the recognition he’s getting right now. And then some.
george
How was it a genuine mistake? I find it hard to believe that he was referred for a test and nobody told him he had to self isolate.
george
Also there was a group of 20 in the bar and his staff allowed it. The pub looks small to be holding 60 people at the moment. Seems like a reckless disregard for the Covid-19 rules in general.
Cian
Why? He is either ignorant – which is difficult to believe after 6 months of pandemic and lockdowns – or he did it knowingly and is a danger to society.
In either case publicity shaming him may help to educate any other idiots or psychopaths to self isolate while waiting for results.
GiggidyGoo
Therefore we should name and shame everyone who puts lives at risk?
…First they came for the snake oil pushers…but their comment got deleted by the moderator…
Rob_G
If someone gets a drink driving conviction, their name is published in the papers; I don’t see how this is any different.
GiggidyGoo
Oh sorry – I didn’t know the bar owner has been convicted. Can you give me a link to the case?
Cian
Why not?
Do you support people that unnecessarily put others at risk?
GiggidyGoo
No. Just asking, as there are regular reports in the newspapers of stabbings, assaults or attempted murder by driving cars at people. but no names. Just wondering why that is.
Micko
You seem like a smart lad Cian.
But you need to wise up.
You won’t always be on the side of the social justice brigade.
Some day, a mistake that YOU make could end up in public shaming and you losing your livelihood.
Have some more kindness now, it could save your a$$ in the future. ;-)
Janet, dreams of big guns
I guess he wasn’t watching enough RTE…..
I’m against sensationalist media as a whole, whatever happened to a bit of empathy, why is evey do angry all the time ?
Janet, dreams of big guns
* everyone
Rob_G
I can’t believe they named all those people attending the Oireachtas Golf Society event… so mean… genuine mistake…
Janet, dreams of big guns
bit of a silly comparison, they are as you said yourself the people ” supposed to be running the country” and therefore in a completely different essential and public category
Alexander the Great
They are people who made a mistake
No different
Your comments are not just a little bit too much
Rob_G
Fupp him, he could have killed someone – there is no shortage of bar staff looking for work at the minute; instead he decided to save a few euro and put all of his customers (and their families and friends) as risk.
Kim The Cardassian
Bit dramatic Rob. Do you say the same thing around smokers?
E'Matty
Rob is just hysterical and irrationally frightened of this virus. Don’t blame him. We should display empathy for the feeble minded and gullible.
Rob_G
Being in a within two metres of a smoker for an hour can’t kill you, so not really the same thing.
if they have a machete
or one of those guns that Janet knows all about
Connery’s Bond smoked – and he killed loadsa baddies
Christopher Walken would light up ‘specially before he knocked someone off
E'Matty
Coronavirus is highly unlikely to kill you too. You don’t die with a virus. Most of these people are dying of chronic heart disease, chronic neurological conditions, chronic respiratory diseases, cancer/malignancy and diabetes. In the US, they’ve even had young people die with coronavirus in a sky diving accident and a motor cycle accident. Why cook the numbers if this is such a deadly virus?
Kim The Cardassian
Being within 2 meters of someone with Coronavirus won’t kill you either. What’s your point?
paul
but once you’ve recovered it could leave you with a lifetime of chronic illness (lung and heart issues, skin sores, immunity and bone marrow problems) that will shorten your life expectancy.
“Ah yeah, I’m young, I’ll get better but I might be on an oxygen tank and in a wheelchair from my 40’s onwards.”
E'Matty
@Paul, can you explain this problem with the organs being damaged that you describe? What is causing it? You might also provide some evidence for your claim of “lifetime of chronic illness (lung and heart issues, skin sores, immunity and bone marrow problems) that will shorten your life expectancy.”
paul
@E’Matty
University of Manchester are doing the bone marrow/monocytes study, New Zealand and DermNet (I think, that ones from memory) are covering the skin stuff (COVID Toes may even be classified as a condition in the future), Science and the Heising-Simons Foundation are looking at the cardiopulmonary side. I can’t remember the lung study right now but plenty of survivors have had to have lung transplants speaks for itself, I’ve heard the phrase ‘lungs like gooey cheese’ more than once. These are just some of the larger studies.
You have access to the same sources I do. If you’re concerned about the long term ramifications of COVID then they are just as accessible to you. If you’re not concerned… *shrug*
E'Matty
@ Paul. Thanks for the information, I’ll check those out. They all seem to be addressing a fairly wide variety of ailments and diseases which are resulting from the cytokine storms, which it is widely accepted now are the cause of the worst reactions to the virus. Do you think it is a little odd that nobody is actually investigating or looking at what is causing these cytokine storms to occur for some coronavirus patients and not others? What’s driving these reactions? Would seem like an obvious question to ask if we want to reduce the harm from the virus, yet nobody in officialdom is doing so. Bit strange, no?
paul
@E’Matty
I’d say there is more investigation going on than is being let on, people won’t draw attention to themselves unless they’ve already seen some promising results. But yeah, if this virus is going to adversely affect peoples lives for years to come, I’d want qualified folks digging down into every aspect of it so people can be prepared.
All the focus is on deaths which, while tragic and an awful loss to everyone involved, will be a far smaller number than those carrying the scars of COVID for the rest of their lives. I genuinely think we’d see better compliance with measures designed (if badly) to reduce infection if folks understood all the risks and not just ‘it kills the old and the ill but not me’.
GiggidyGoo
@ Paul. The virus is what, 8-9 months here. Where did you get the information that it gives lifelong problems like you suggest?
paul
@GiggidyGoo
Hearts and lungs and bone marrow don’t just recover, not without a lot of treatment and even then, there are scars.
Things like ‘COVID toes’ might be a curable anomaly but when delicate tissues inside the body are damaged, it’s often for life. I have scars on my heart and lungs from other things and the word from the Surgeon on the day of my discharge was ‘that sort of thing doesn’t go away, no matter what causes it, it might come back to bite you when you’re older or if you become unhealthy or you might get lucky and die of something else entirely’.
E'Matty
@Paul, but the deaths and serious side effects for those who don’t die that you refer to are all resulting from the cytokine storms. This is widely accepted. I can provide National Geographic, Irish Times and other mainstream articles to support this. My question is why is nobody in our media, our medical professions or political class asking what is causing these cytokine storms and why is nobody mentioning the FACT coronaviruses, as a family of viruses, have a long history of causing cytokine storms due to vaccine interference? This is just a fact, yet it is not spoken of and is even attacked if raised.
Surely we should at least examine this potential link where the worst affected are the elderly and medical staff, both groups who receive the flu vaccine each Winter? This becomes increasingly important an issue, even if just to discount it as a threat to health, given the government now wants everybody in the country of all ages and predispositions to receive the flu vaccine this year. If there is any link between the flu vaccine and these cytokine storms, this course of action could have devastating results in the Winter months ahead.
GiggidyGoo
Yet Donohue, Coveney, can come and go as they please to / from areas in Europe that are not on the green list, and attend the Dail, have press conferences, be in the company of their advisors without any hint of isolation that the rest of us have to do? They’re the same flesh and bone and metabolism. So why is that then? Fupp them too maybe Rob?
Rob_G
Obviously running a pub is as vitally important as running the country
“see these apples – but what about these oranges???”
GiggidyGoo
So it’s ok for people running the country to kill people then? Would you ever get off the stage?
You do realise that Dover is only the 9th busiest freight port in the UK ?
Actually,knowing your output, you clearly wouldn’t.
Meanwhile,where the real molah is made.
The rumors about Boris being spotted in Italy – maybe there is truth in them, as his wife and child are holidaying there.
GiggidyGoo
Another plan with ‘ambitious targets’. This time, the HSE.
‘Ambitious targets’ is a code in this case for ‘We will write a plan because we have to, and fill it with unachievable promises’
Alexander the Great
If the night falls and a bomb falls will anybody see the dawn?
The fifth can be a pack of Tayto, or Junkface’s chips!
Junkface
Next thing they will be telling us is that chips aren’t one of our five a day either!
Monsters
GiggidyGoo
Aaaannnnndddd there we have it. McAleese gets a spot on the Late Late to advertise her new book. It will be in the 50c basket within a year. Un-Two-Ward must be on as well pouring a new chemical toilet on us. I wonder what advice will ‘I have a dream’ Tubridy unleash complete with hand gestures?
Q Celt
Show is a celebration of all the things that are wrong with Irish society
newsjustin
I wonder if she’ll throw caution to the wind and say something extraordinarily profound, novel, and deeply unpopular about the Catholic Church? She wouldn’t dare…..would she?
Janet, dreams of big guns
I just had a vision of him having a little wank,
and not his usual verbal one, thanks Giddy !
GiggidyGoo
Heh heh
Janet, dreams of big guns
ahhh why did my comment bet deleted, it wasn’t that bad
ok I just had a vision of him having a little self pleasure and not of his usual verbal kind
Cian
Unfortunately (a) I saw that comment and (b) it is still there.
Unusually for me, I am *asking* for censorship.
Janet, dreams of big guns
a little visual gift from me to you Cian,
millie madonna
Yikes Jan
You filthy thing
Janet, dreams of big guns
why thank you ;)
Charger Salmons
Calling all BS nautical chums.
According to the Examiner ” Verona Murphy the Independent TD for Wexford,who served as president of the Irish Road Haulage Association before her election last February, told Taoiseach Micheál Martin that more than 150,000 trucks per year come and go from Dublin Port and Rosslare Europort and use the landbridge, transporting cargo with an estimated value of more than €18bn. ”
And with Brexit just 4 months away how is Ireland doing with its preparations for disruption to that landbridge.
Much fanfare has been made in the past couple of years at the launch of two giant Brexit-busting ferries at Dublin Port.
The world’s largest short sea roll-on roll-off vessel the Celine,capable of carrying 580 lorries, was launched in 2018.
Yet according to data it was last in port 5 days ago and seems to be popping back and forth between Zeebrugge and the UK East Coast port of Killingholme. http://www.vesselfinder.com/vessels/CELINE-IMO-9789233-MMSI-249901000
Earlier this year its sister ship was also launched. http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/brexit-buster-sister-ship-begins-sailings-to-mainland-europe-1.3842933
Yet a cursory glance shows it only operating between Zeebrugge,Rotterdam and the Portugese port of Leixoes. http://www.vesselfinder.com/vessels/LAURELINE-IMO-9823352-MMSI-248743000
Obviously Brexit hasn’t happened yet but with all the uncertainty why aren’t these vessels already operating on the shortest route between Ireland and mainland Europe ?
And how quickly could they switch over to such a route in the event of lorry queues at Dover ?
I’m no expert on this but would genuinely like to know as my experience of boats is limited to mixing ferocious magaritas in the galley of a chum’s racing yacht.
Charger Salmons
It’s a rum do alright.
Normally when I post on Ireland’s trading arrangements post-Brexit I’m inundated with opinions.
Now it’s the train calling in at Tumbleweed Connection.
Experts, eh ?
Heh,heh,heh x 150,000
GiggidyGoo
Pity for you is probably the reason. Such an inferiority complex – today’s score 8.075 on the Sure Have Inferiority Troubles meter.
As you say, you’re no expert. At least you do know
“Obviously Brexit hasn’t happened yet but with all the uncertainty why aren’t these vessels already operating on the shortest route between Ireland and mainland Europe ?
Do they operate on the shortest route between Ireland and mainland Europe? Rosslare- Cherbourg is shorter.
Currently there is no need for them to be the Irish route permanently. The number of sailings haven’t diminished. We still landbridge through the UK too. CLdN have opened up new routes recently as well which they (cleverly) utilize ferries that are not being utilized fully on the Irish service. The Celine came into service in 2017 to cover Dublin and Killingholme – did you not know that?
CLdN put other vessels on that are more suited at this time.
Back to your baked beans, one ring stove and your diluted orange Walter. You haven’t a clue, have you?
Charger Salmons
So what you’re saying is that the landbridge is still the most preferred route for Irish freight traffic to Europe even with the threat of a no-deal Brexit and as a result the Irish government has wasted four years not bothering to invest in an alternative ?
And on December 31st at midnight they’re suddenly going to magic up ferries and port facilities ?
Kind of what the Irish Hauliers Association have been saying this week as well.
Heh x 150,000.
PS: You need some new material.Whilst imitation is the bext form of flattery your index stuff is getting whiffier than strong blue cheese.
Nigel
‘Coronavirus makes ‘modern slaves’ of ship crews, UN told’
(Nearly posted this on the Henry Street thread, but didn’t want it to come across as whataboutery.)
f_lawless
Anyone following the ongoing Juilan Assange trial? Prosecution currently trying to downplay the extent of Assange’s mental deterioration and deny that he has succumbed to suicidal urges despite prison records documenting that this is the case.
Nobody seems to be paying much attention to this travesty of justice. The pretend journos in the msm have unsurprisingly not been covering it much, despite the enormous threat it poses to true journalism which is supposed to be about holding power to account, instead of propping it up and crushing dissenters, as so many in the msm seem to believe. I don’t actually think our Irish journalist corp are particularly malevolent. They’re just idiots with next to no understanding of affairs outside our borders. We don’t actually have any reporting of international affairs in this country which isn’t a hand me down from the Anglo American media sphere (see the The Telegraph and Observer, or Associated Press for all Indo and IT foreign affairs articles). Our media are basically a crap joke running around pretending to be Lois and Clark, all the while acting as PR men/women/confused for established power. Play their cards right, they might even get invited on fancy golf trips and get to hobnob with their betters, whom they look up to with such brown nosing reverence.
Charger Salmons
I think all those intelligence agents whose lives he put in danger might have a different opinion.
…whatever happened to that Irish one that was secretly briefing the yanks and zionists up in the embassy…
E'Matty
@Charger Salmons, did you get your talking point from the mainstream media and US government claims? Or do you have any actual evidence to support your claim that lives were put in danger by Assange? The US certainly hasn’t been able to substantiate its claim so if you have such evidence you might want to contact the embassy and get some browny points.
Let’s ignore the fact that Wikileaks exposed murderous criminality by the US State apparatus. Charger here loves supporting war criminals and murderers, and helping them conceal their crimes.
Although that bar owner is a selfish idiot I’m not sure publicly shaming him achieves much and putting him on the cover is just cruel.
Seems like a genuine mistake. He popped into the bar for 40 mins to see how things were going on Sat night.
Bad move, but it wasn’t intentional and he’s now on the cover of The Sun being shamed – so that’s where we are now. Brilliant!
IT has a bit more of a level headed coverage
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/publican-admits-entering-bar-while-awaiting-covid-19-test-results-1.4363970
He was meant to self-isolate, now his licence is threatened.
Yeah, it’s terrible.
Make a genuine mistake and we’ll take your livelihood
Seems fair…
And yet if he went on the piss with his oireachtas mates he would have been grand. C’est la vie..
People make mistakes and there are consequences. It’s called being an adult in a mature society
…and the moral of the story is…become a politician not a publican…oh wait…
He deserves all the recognition he’s getting right now. And then some.
How was it a genuine mistake? I find it hard to believe that he was referred for a test and nobody told him he had to self isolate.
Also there was a group of 20 in the bar and his staff allowed it. The pub looks small to be holding 60 people at the moment. Seems like a reckless disregard for the Covid-19 rules in general.
Why? He is either ignorant – which is difficult to believe after 6 months of pandemic and lockdowns – or he did it knowingly and is a danger to society.
In either case publicity shaming him may help to educate any other idiots or psychopaths to self isolate while waiting for results.
Therefore we should name and shame everyone who puts lives at risk?
…great idea…we could start with this site…
…yes?
…First they came for the snake oil pushers…but their comment got deleted by the moderator…
If someone gets a drink driving conviction, their name is published in the papers; I don’t see how this is any different.
Oh sorry – I didn’t know the bar owner has been convicted. Can you give me a link to the case?
Why not?
Do you support people that unnecessarily put others at risk?
No. Just asking, as there are regular reports in the newspapers of stabbings, assaults or attempted murder by driving cars at people. but no names. Just wondering why that is.
You seem like a smart lad Cian.
But you need to wise up.
You won’t always be on the side of the social justice brigade.
Some day, a mistake that YOU make could end up in public shaming and you losing your livelihood.
Have some more kindness now, it could save your a$$ in the future. ;-)
I guess he wasn’t watching enough RTE…..
I’m against sensationalist media as a whole, whatever happened to a bit of empathy, why is evey do angry all the time ?
* everyone
I can’t believe they named all those people attending the Oireachtas Golf Society event… so mean… genuine mistake…
bit of a silly comparison, they are as you said yourself the people ” supposed to be running the country” and therefore in a completely different essential and public category
They are people who made a mistake
No different
Your comments are not just a little bit too much
Fupp him, he could have killed someone – there is no shortage of bar staff looking for work at the minute; instead he decided to save a few euro and put all of his customers (and their families and friends) as risk.
Bit dramatic Rob. Do you say the same thing around smokers?
Rob is just hysterical and irrationally frightened of this virus. Don’t blame him. We should display empathy for the feeble minded and gullible.
Being in a within two metres of a smoker for an hour can’t kill you, so not really the same thing.
if they have a machete
or one of those guns that Janet knows all about
Connery’s Bond smoked – and he killed loadsa baddies
Christopher Walken would light up ‘specially before he knocked someone off
Coronavirus is highly unlikely to kill you too. You don’t die with a virus. Most of these people are dying of chronic heart disease, chronic neurological conditions, chronic respiratory diseases, cancer/malignancy and diabetes. In the US, they’ve even had young people die with coronavirus in a sky diving accident and a motor cycle accident. Why cook the numbers if this is such a deadly virus?
Being within 2 meters of someone with Coronavirus won’t kill you either. What’s your point?
but once you’ve recovered it could leave you with a lifetime of chronic illness (lung and heart issues, skin sores, immunity and bone marrow problems) that will shorten your life expectancy.
“Ah yeah, I’m young, I’ll get better but I might be on an oxygen tank and in a wheelchair from my 40’s onwards.”
@Paul, can you explain this problem with the organs being damaged that you describe? What is causing it? You might also provide some evidence for your claim of “lifetime of chronic illness (lung and heart issues, skin sores, immunity and bone marrow problems) that will shorten your life expectancy.”
@E’Matty
University of Manchester are doing the bone marrow/monocytes study, New Zealand and DermNet (I think, that ones from memory) are covering the skin stuff (COVID Toes may even be classified as a condition in the future), Science and the Heising-Simons Foundation are looking at the cardiopulmonary side. I can’t remember the lung study right now but plenty of survivors have had to have lung transplants speaks for itself, I’ve heard the phrase ‘lungs like gooey cheese’ more than once. These are just some of the larger studies.
You have access to the same sources I do. If you’re concerned about the long term ramifications of COVID then they are just as accessible to you. If you’re not concerned… *shrug*
@ Paul. Thanks for the information, I’ll check those out. They all seem to be addressing a fairly wide variety of ailments and diseases which are resulting from the cytokine storms, which it is widely accepted now are the cause of the worst reactions to the virus. Do you think it is a little odd that nobody is actually investigating or looking at what is causing these cytokine storms to occur for some coronavirus patients and not others? What’s driving these reactions? Would seem like an obvious question to ask if we want to reduce the harm from the virus, yet nobody in officialdom is doing so. Bit strange, no?
@E’Matty
I’d say there is more investigation going on than is being let on, people won’t draw attention to themselves unless they’ve already seen some promising results. But yeah, if this virus is going to adversely affect peoples lives for years to come, I’d want qualified folks digging down into every aspect of it so people can be prepared.
All the focus is on deaths which, while tragic and an awful loss to everyone involved, will be a far smaller number than those carrying the scars of COVID for the rest of their lives. I genuinely think we’d see better compliance with measures designed (if badly) to reduce infection if folks understood all the risks and not just ‘it kills the old and the ill but not me’.
@ Paul. The virus is what, 8-9 months here. Where did you get the information that it gives lifelong problems like you suggest?
@GiggidyGoo
Hearts and lungs and bone marrow don’t just recover, not without a lot of treatment and even then, there are scars.
Things like ‘COVID toes’ might be a curable anomaly but when delicate tissues inside the body are damaged, it’s often for life. I have scars on my heart and lungs from other things and the word from the Surgeon on the day of my discharge was ‘that sort of thing doesn’t go away, no matter what causes it, it might come back to bite you when you’re older or if you become unhealthy or you might get lucky and die of something else entirely’.
@Paul, but the deaths and serious side effects for those who don’t die that you refer to are all resulting from the cytokine storms. This is widely accepted. I can provide National Geographic, Irish Times and other mainstream articles to support this. My question is why is nobody in our media, our medical professions or political class asking what is causing these cytokine storms and why is nobody mentioning the FACT coronaviruses, as a family of viruses, have a long history of causing cytokine storms due to vaccine interference? This is just a fact, yet it is not spoken of and is even attacked if raised.
Surely we should at least examine this potential link where the worst affected are the elderly and medical staff, both groups who receive the flu vaccine each Winter? This becomes increasingly important an issue, even if just to discount it as a threat to health, given the government now wants everybody in the country of all ages and predispositions to receive the flu vaccine this year. If there is any link between the flu vaccine and these cytokine storms, this course of action could have devastating results in the Winter months ahead.
Yet Donohue, Coveney, can come and go as they please to / from areas in Europe that are not on the green list, and attend the Dail, have press conferences, be in the company of their advisors without any hint of isolation that the rest of us have to do? They’re the same flesh and bone and metabolism. So why is that then? Fupp them too maybe Rob?
Obviously running a pub is as vitally important as running the country
“see these apples – but what about these oranges???”
So it’s ok for people running the country to kill people then? Would you ever get off the stage?
running it into the ground
Even right-wing commentators don’t believe tory lies abut kent.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8770719/RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN-Government-insists-no-hard-border-Ireland-one-Kent.html
The Republic of Kent… Kexit.
https://www.kentonline.co.uk/kent/news/welcome-to-the-republic-of-kent-234343/
You do realise that Dover is only the 9th busiest freight port in the UK ?
Actually,knowing your output, you clearly wouldn’t.
Meanwhile,where the real molah is made.
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/biggest-financial-centers-london-nears-new-york-2020-9-1029622179
The rumors about Boris being spotted in Italy – maybe there is truth in them, as his wife and child are holidaying there.
Another plan with ‘ambitious targets’. This time, the HSE.
‘Ambitious targets’ is a code in this case for ‘We will write a plan because we have to, and fill it with unachievable promises’
If the night falls and a bomb falls will anybody see the dawn?
It’s silly though
looks like millie isn’t a fan of the purple one…
Not enough to catch the reference sadly
oh millie ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EdxM72EZ94
Delicious irony
Wine not one of five a day!
that’s a lie clearly
It’s definitely two of five.
Studies confirm this to be law
And the olive in my martini counts too?
Unquestionably
I like a little lemon peel in mine, extra dry
That also counts
Cool, we’re up to 4/5;
The fifth can be a pack of Tayto, or Junkface’s chips!
Next thing they will be telling us is that chips aren’t one of our five a day either!
Monsters
Aaaannnnndddd there we have it. McAleese gets a spot on the Late Late to advertise her new book. It will be in the 50c basket within a year. Un-Two-Ward must be on as well pouring a new chemical toilet on us. I wonder what advice will ‘I have a dream’ Tubridy unleash complete with hand gestures?
Show is a celebration of all the things that are wrong with Irish society
I wonder if she’ll throw caution to the wind and say something extraordinarily profound, novel, and deeply unpopular about the Catholic Church? She wouldn’t dare…..would she?
I just had a vision of him having a little wank,
and not his usual verbal one, thanks Giddy !
Heh heh
ahhh why did my comment bet deleted, it wasn’t that bad
ok I just had a vision of him having a little self pleasure and not of his usual verbal kind
Unfortunately (a) I saw that comment and (b) it is still there.
Unusually for me, I am *asking* for censorship.
a little visual gift from me to you Cian,
Yikes Jan
You filthy thing
why thank you ;)
Calling all BS nautical chums.
According to the Examiner ” Verona Murphy the Independent TD for Wexford,who served as president of the Irish Road Haulage Association before her election last February, told Taoiseach Micheál Martin that more than 150,000 trucks per year come and go from Dublin Port and Rosslare Europort and use the landbridge, transporting cargo with an estimated value of more than €18bn. ”
And with Brexit just 4 months away how is Ireland doing with its preparations for disruption to that landbridge.
Much fanfare has been made in the past couple of years at the launch of two giant Brexit-busting ferries at Dublin Port.
The world’s largest short sea roll-on roll-off vessel the Celine,capable of carrying 580 lorries, was launched in 2018.
Yet according to data it was last in port 5 days ago and seems to be popping back and forth between Zeebrugge and the UK East Coast port of Killingholme.
http://www.vesselfinder.com/vessels/CELINE-IMO-9789233-MMSI-249901000
Earlier this year its sister ship was also launched.
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/brexit-buster-sister-ship-begins-sailings-to-mainland-europe-1.3842933
Yet a cursory glance shows it only operating between Zeebrugge,Rotterdam and the Portugese port of Leixoes.
http://www.vesselfinder.com/vessels/LAURELINE-IMO-9823352-MMSI-248743000
Obviously Brexit hasn’t happened yet but with all the uncertainty why aren’t these vessels already operating on the shortest route between Ireland and mainland Europe ?
And how quickly could they switch over to such a route in the event of lorry queues at Dover ?
I’m no expert on this but would genuinely like to know as my experience of boats is limited to mixing ferocious magaritas in the galley of a chum’s racing yacht.
It’s a rum do alright.
Normally when I post on Ireland’s trading arrangements post-Brexit I’m inundated with opinions.
Now it’s the train calling in at Tumbleweed Connection.
Experts, eh ?
Heh,heh,heh x 150,000
Pity for you is probably the reason. Such an inferiority complex – today’s score 8.075 on the Sure Have Inferiority Troubles meter.
As you say, you’re no expert. At least you do know
“Obviously Brexit hasn’t happened yet but with all the uncertainty why aren’t these vessels already operating on the shortest route between Ireland and mainland Europe ?
Do they operate on the shortest route between Ireland and mainland Europe? Rosslare- Cherbourg is shorter.
Currently there is no need for them to be the Irish route permanently. The number of sailings haven’t diminished. We still landbridge through the UK too. CLdN have opened up new routes recently as well which they (cleverly) utilize ferries that are not being utilized fully on the Irish service. The Celine came into service in 2017 to cover Dublin and Killingholme – did you not know that?
CLdN put other vessels on that are more suited at this time.
Back to your baked beans, one ring stove and your diluted orange Walter. You haven’t a clue, have you?
So what you’re saying is that the landbridge is still the most preferred route for Irish freight traffic to Europe even with the threat of a no-deal Brexit and as a result the Irish government has wasted four years not bothering to invest in an alternative ?
And on December 31st at midnight they’re suddenly going to magic up ferries and port facilities ?
Kind of what the Irish Hauliers Association have been saying this week as well.
Heh x 150,000.
PS: You need some new material.Whilst imitation is the bext form of flattery your index stuff is getting whiffier than strong blue cheese.
‘Coronavirus makes ‘modern slaves’ of ship crews, UN told’
https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-maritime-bubble/a-55047956
(Nearly posted this on the Henry Street thread, but didn’t want it to come across as whataboutery.)
Anyone following the ongoing Juilan Assange trial? Prosecution currently trying to downplay the extent of Assange’s mental deterioration and deny that he has succumbed to suicidal urges despite prison records documenting that this is the case.
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2020/09/your-man-in-the-public-gallery-assange-hearing-day-17/
Nobody seems to be paying much attention to this travesty of justice. The pretend journos in the msm have unsurprisingly not been covering it much, despite the enormous threat it poses to true journalism which is supposed to be about holding power to account, instead of propping it up and crushing dissenters, as so many in the msm seem to believe. I don’t actually think our Irish journalist corp are particularly malevolent. They’re just idiots with next to no understanding of affairs outside our borders. We don’t actually have any reporting of international affairs in this country which isn’t a hand me down from the Anglo American media sphere (see the The Telegraph and Observer, or Associated Press for all Indo and IT foreign affairs articles). Our media are basically a crap joke running around pretending to be Lois and Clark, all the while acting as PR men/women/confused for established power. Play their cards right, they might even get invited on fancy golf trips and get to hobnob with their betters, whom they look up to with such brown nosing reverence.
I think all those intelligence agents whose lives he put in danger might have a different opinion.
…don’t you mean spys?
…whatever happened to that Irish one that was secretly briefing the yanks and zionists up in the embassy…
@Charger Salmons, did you get your talking point from the mainstream media and US government claims? Or do you have any actual evidence to support your claim that lives were put in danger by Assange? The US certainly hasn’t been able to substantiate its claim so if you have such evidence you might want to contact the embassy and get some browny points.
Let’s ignore the fact that Wikileaks exposed murderous criminality by the US State apparatus. Charger here loves supporting war criminals and murderers, and helping them conceal their crimes.
I’m only going on the word of the man himself.
https://news.sky.com/story/julian-assange-phoned-the-white-house-to-warn-of-risk-to-lives-over-wikileaks-release-11943209