Dunno about you lot but I’m off out on the piss while I can.
Rosette of Sirius
I’m off for a 120km bike ride while I still can (in the morning)….
Brother Barnabas
it’ll be a long, long while before there’s a proper session for you lot
GiggidyGoo
Just order a box or two of Ian Botham wines. Piddle in, piddle out.
The state of himself and the simpleton dressed in multicolored garb with a tinker bell wand yesterday. Such palaver. It’s a wonder an Australian waitress or two weren’t invited.
Charger Salmons
Right,that’s it.
I’m outta here as there’s a gallon of drink somewhere with my name on it.
Is the meltdown complete then? I’ll seal up the popcorn so
Joe F
Are you not going to comment on your pal Bozo and the grand job he and his pals are doing at counting. We can send an abacus over to Bozo or Hancrook if you wish. Marvellous.
f_lawless
https://vimeo.com/465173937
Varadkar’s interview on RTE tonight was very intriguing.
“Last Thursday when we received our update in writing there was no suggestion whatsoever that they were contemplating suggesting that we move to level 5.”
(Sunday night NPHET makes public their recommendation to go to level 5 without consulting the government first)
“We sat down with them today, heard them out..allowed them to make their case and we decided not to accept the advice….Nothing has changed in the space of three days that warranted changing from level 2 to level 5”
“NPHET’s assessment that our hospitals were imminently facing the possibility of being overwhelmed, our ICUs and our beds, was not shared by the CEO of the HSE and the HSE board were not consulted on that.”
Very strange behaviour Just who is pulling NPHET’s strings one has to wonder! If only it was more transparent how these decisions are being arrived at.
Enter Alexander Alexandria, Chargers trusty man-servant. Always on hand. beans for two anyone?
goldenbrown
hm.
given that Prone was on the follow-up shift this morning fawning over her boss and overexplaining the leak I’d say you might not be a million miles off there Giggidy. course you’ll never prove that.
GiggidyGoo
Sorry – I should have written ‘advises’ instead on ‘meets’.
The CMO was also told that Thursday’s letter from NPHET and Sunday’s letter to government were “irreconcilable”.
So Sunday, Nphet sends a letter to Government, and there’s a leak.
2+2=4 Still. Unless any of you bright sparks have other, opposite information?
Cian
You have zero information, but you blamed Varadkar.
Charger Salmons
It has not been a good week so far for this puerile poltroon.
GiggidyGoo
2+2=4 There are more holes in Varadkar than a colander.
GiggidyGoo
Running out of ideas there Charger?
Very easy to get to you in the end. Can give it, but can’t take it. What to doooooo, what to dooooo? Oh yeah, post something about blighty and it’s aircraft shortage. ROFL.
Look at your posts today… up to 9.9 on the Sure Have Inferiority Troubles meter.
Yourself and your Big Fat Greek mate are some yokes alright. I hear they do Fridge Tubs of beans these days – enough for two.
Formerly known as @ireland.com
Trump – you can’t cure idiot! He gets the best treatment possible, including unapproved treatments, then tells us that Covid should not dominate us. Check the other headlines for how Covid does dominate the real world.
Charger Salmons
Actually Trump received the same treatment that many other Americans have received to cope with Covid-19.
The point he was making was that life must go on and that patients who contract Covid-19 shouldn’t let the fear of it dominate their lives as many more people are successfully recovering from it.
The message is no different than that regularly conveyed by scientific experts and indeed many people on here.
But your little bit of virtue-signalling made you feel very smug didn’t it ?
Brother Barnabas
well… the same treatment that many other Americans *with the financial means or insurance cover to pay for it* received
the majority wont get anything close to that
goldenbrown
nope, I don’t believe he’s ever had it
an electioneering ruse as you say
a made for TV mini-drama
only question is are Americans stupid enough to buy it
Brother Barnabas
a rouse, you surely mean
goldenbrown
;)
george
Actually no he didn’t receive the same treatment as everyone else. He is receiving a drug that fewer than 10 people outside of clinical trials have received.
Charger Salmons
Actually his treatment of Aspirin and Remdesevir is commonly available and widely used for Covid-19.
The experimental drug has not been proven to succeed so why should it be in common use yet ?
Remember when Trump was widely dissed for suggesting such drugs could be helpful ?
The wokeratti are just upset he made such a quick recovery.
Steph Pinker
Holohan will resign soon.
SOQ
Dunno- I get the feeling there is an element of ‘how to boil a frog’ in all of this. If the government had to say the country was going into stage 3 on its own, people would be asking why- so NPHET goes high and they go low.
The whole point of this plan was to be able to lock down counties therefore minimising impact but that seems to have been thrown out the window now- despite the fact that some have a very low infection rate .
Of course we still don’t know if this decision is based on questionable ‘cases’- or on actual hospital and ICU admissions.
If Woulfe won’t go to the mountain, then the mountain shall come to him.
All the lads went around for tea and biscuits, and to ‘concern’ a bit together.
A group of senior judges went to visit Supreme Court judge Séamus Woulfe last Friday to express concerns over how he had handled the ‘Golfgate’ affair.
Charger Salmons
After yesterday’s embarrassing performance on here are you absolutely 100% sure you want to start off a new day by claiming someone looked foolish yesterday ?
GiggidyGoo
Ah, Walter Mitty strikes again.
You mean about how you were made to look like a fool when you tried to tell us that the pubs were selling off out of date beer? Or you saving money on airport parking by parking on street in Hounslow where you have to change the disk daily unless you’re a resident. Or the fact that blight had to get a loan of some US planes to make their ships look full. Any idea when english planes will be available in sufficient numbers? ROFL.
Little britain. There in your damp bedsit with the draught swirling around your ankles while you stir the beans with the trusty computer by your side and you trying to comfort yourself in your Walter Mitty little world.
Tsk tsk.
Charger Salmons
I suppose it’s to be expected that an Irishman doesn’t know when to stop digging …
GiggidyGoo
Fantastic comeback. Ha haaaaa.
Make sure now when you do decide to go on the piss that you check the Best Before date on the cans.
…NPHET recommendation seems to have been based on the simple observation of increasing cases and the exponential growth that is forecast with it’s knock-on pressure on hospitals and ultimately deaths…if the political judgement is wrong we shall know very soon…
Tinytim
Given that there is a lag between a lockdown occurrence and the change to infection rates; shown earlier in year to be close to 2 weeks – then that alone means it’s too early to reconsider levels in counties with recent changes – Dublin / Donegal etc. Indeed once the new change sets in you’d probably need at least a week , or 8+ data points to be able to be sure of new data range.
…agree Tim…but the measure that nobody can argue with is the trend…life and death decisions are being made by a colleaguate of politicians who have demonstrated their solidarity does not lie with the people who elected them…
Nigel
It’s going to be like care homes, Direct Provision Centres and meat factories, only for the entire health service.
Q Celt
Have to make sure Larry and Bob are still making money, people’s health is a secondary concern
but I’m starting to smell a bit of dominant influence now off NPHET
and I’m slowly sinking into the bog hole that Holohan and the DoH / HSE posse are doing what they can to keep the HSE from going so far under that only a firesale liquation stop and start can get it open again
(in fact that’s where it is now, but 3 billion top ups here and there will stop the roof caving in)
Years of mismanagement and feckless oversight by bullet proof public servants is coming back to to haunt many of them there around the NPHET Table
And they know it
All those beds on trollies that were campaign issues,
Screening and misdiagnosis scandals, waiting lists, medical cards, nurses contracts, consultant contracts, a multi billion yoyo children’s hospital that will never perform to even two thirds capacity ……
Hospital Morgues only fit for a 70s sitcom
Remember there are three former Health Ministers in Government already, they all know what lies beneath
Not in the slightest bit surprised they gave NPHET the two fingers last night
and fair play to them
NPHET need to get the finger out themselves
Otis Blue
+€17,056 million
E'Matty
It’s quite amusing reading the comments of the lockdown zealots today. Took a look at the Journal comment section (lockdown zealot central) and they are losing their little minds this morning despairing over the failure to go to level 5 and Trump’s declaration that this is something not to fear. The breakdwn in unity between the lockdown zealots and government is a pleasure to watch.
Gabby
I think there is some planned psychology at play with the cabinet decision to ‘ignore’ the doctor’s urging that we go immediately to a nationwide Level 5 total lockdown. Firstly the government wants the general public to believe that it decides, not the doctors and NPHET. Secondly, after a lot of people express phew that we’re ‘only’ going to Level 3 [everybody except restaraunteurs and publicans that is] the government will ratchet up it to Level 4 after a couple of weeks. Psychology is where government and the general public are at.
Well in any event
I’m organising Hair, Mani Pedi and other bits appointments as we speak
The Pressure!
tis like trying to make the last bus
Charger Salmons
What other bits are these V ?
Brother Barnabas
scrotum, I’d guess
SOQ
Personally I think this tort case fronted by Reiner Fuellmich in Germany is what is driving this behaviour because if they can prove that PCR tests should not be driving public policy- then that is when the fireworks start.
NobleLocks
So sick of these headlines. This is exactly why more and more people are finding themselves walking away from the mainstream media
Gov goes along with Holohan = they’re all singing his tune and being sheep
Gov goes against Holohan = there’s a big split and we should all be worried.
This is “Gotcha” journalism at it’s worst and it is all pervasive in Ireland now it seems. It is anti-thought, anti-intellect and anti-common sense and I am SICK of it.
Stop wondering why people walk around with “RTE is lying” posters. All you need to know is right on the front pages!
Tessy Lonicky
It was “RTÉ is lieing”
NobleLocks
Not when these protestors are writing it up it ain’t !
Charger Salmons
More carrier porn.
The most powerful task force assembled by any European Navy in almost 20 years.
Hands off Rockall Vlad !
“Corporal Kelly’s a terrible drought
Just give him a couple of jars of stout
And he’ll beat the enemy with his mouth
And save the British army”
Yis can all sing out the rest…..
Charger Salmons
Yis ?
Oh how terribly sweet.
Can you do a little jig as well ?
Rosette of Sirius
‘Fraid so. It’s just how it rolls ‘round these parts, Toora Loora…..
Charger Salmons
A small bit of good news that will go largely unreported today but one that has huge historical significance.
The Foreign Ministers of Israel and the United Arab Emirates are meeting in Berlin. The ministers will visit the Holocaust Museum together and hold a ceremony at the Holocaust Memorial.
A personal diplomatic triumph for Donald Trump.
Pat Mustard
The same UAE that puts up the kinahan cartel.
You’d swallow anything old boy..
Charger Salmons
No, I think that’s your mother …
GiggidyGoo
Getting nasty there Charger. I just love sitting back and watch you disintegrate.
Papi
I think being rumbled as Alexander has really tormented him.
Dunno about you lot but I’m off out on the piss while I can.
I’m off for a 120km bike ride while I still can (in the morning)….
it’ll be a long, long while before there’s a proper session for you lot
Just order a box or two of Ian Botham wines. Piddle in, piddle out.
The state of himself and the simpleton dressed in multicolored garb with a tinker bell wand yesterday. Such palaver. It’s a wonder an Australian waitress or two weren’t invited.
Right,that’s it.
I’m outta here as there’s a gallon of drink somewhere with my name on it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Krs1oiydrbI
Is the meltdown complete then? I’ll seal up the popcorn so
Are you not going to comment on your pal Bozo and the grand job he and his pals are doing at counting. We can send an abacus over to Bozo or Hancrook if you wish. Marvellous.
https://vimeo.com/465173937
Varadkar’s interview on RTE tonight was very intriguing.
“Last Thursday when we received our update in writing there was no suggestion whatsoever that they were contemplating suggesting that we move to level 5.”
(Sunday night NPHET makes public their recommendation to go to level 5 without consulting the government first)
“We sat down with them today, heard them out..allowed them to make their case and we decided not to accept the advice….Nothing has changed in the space of three days that warranted changing from level 2 to level 5”
“NPHET’s assessment that our hospitals were imminently facing the possibility of being overwhelmed, our ICUs and our beds, was not shared by the CEO of the HSE and the HSE board were not consulted on that.”
Very strange behaviour Just who is pulling NPHET’s strings one has to wonder! If only it was more transparent how these decisions are being arrived at.
Nphet meets Varadkar on Sunday evening. Leak follows shortly afterwards. 2+2=4
You’re just making stuff up.
NPHET didn’t meet Varadkar on Sunday.
link to that claim, goo?
Here we go …
Today’s visit to Tumbleweed Junction.
I really think the chap has a lot of issues
Tissues more like …
Enter Alexander Alexandria, Chargers trusty man-servant. Always on hand. beans for two anyone?
hm.
given that Prone was on the follow-up shift this morning fawning over her boss and overexplaining the leak I’d say you might not be a million miles off there Giggidy. course you’ll never prove that.
Sorry – I should have written ‘advises’ instead on ‘meets’.
The CMO was also told that Thursday’s letter from NPHET and Sunday’s letter to government were “irreconcilable”.
So Sunday, Nphet sends a letter to Government, and there’s a leak.
2+2=4 Still. Unless any of you bright sparks have other, opposite information?
You have zero information, but you blamed Varadkar.
It has not been a good week so far for this puerile poltroon.
2+2=4 There are more holes in Varadkar than a colander.
Running out of ideas there Charger?
Very easy to get to you in the end. Can give it, but can’t take it. What to doooooo, what to dooooo? Oh yeah, post something about blighty and it’s aircraft shortage. ROFL.
Look at your posts today… up to 9.9 on the Sure Have Inferiority Troubles meter.
Yourself and your Big Fat Greek mate are some yokes alright. I hear they do Fridge Tubs of beans these days – enough for two.
Trump – you can’t cure idiot! He gets the best treatment possible, including unapproved treatments, then tells us that Covid should not dominate us. Check the other headlines for how Covid does dominate the real world.
Actually Trump received the same treatment that many other Americans have received to cope with Covid-19.
The point he was making was that life must go on and that patients who contract Covid-19 shouldn’t let the fear of it dominate their lives as many more people are successfully recovering from it.
The message is no different than that regularly conveyed by scientific experts and indeed many people on here.
But your little bit of virtue-signalling made you feel very smug didn’t it ?
well… the same treatment that many other Americans *with the financial means or insurance cover to pay for it* received
the majority wont get anything close to that
nope, I don’t believe he’s ever had it
an electioneering ruse as you say
a made for TV mini-drama
only question is are Americans stupid enough to buy it
a rouse, you surely mean
;)
Actually no he didn’t receive the same treatment as everyone else. He is receiving a drug that fewer than 10 people outside of clinical trials have received.
Actually his treatment of Aspirin and Remdesevir is commonly available and widely used for Covid-19.
The experimental drug has not been proven to succeed so why should it be in common use yet ?
Remember when Trump was widely dissed for suggesting such drugs could be helpful ?
The wokeratti are just upset he made such a quick recovery.
Holohan will resign soon.
Dunno- I get the feeling there is an element of ‘how to boil a frog’ in all of this. If the government had to say the country was going into stage 3 on its own, people would be asking why- so NPHET goes high and they go low.
The whole point of this plan was to be able to lock down counties therefore minimising impact but that seems to have been thrown out the window now- despite the fact that some have a very low infection rate .
Of course we still don’t know if this decision is based on questionable ‘cases’- or on actual hospital and ICU admissions.
The letter, with all the reasons, is here:
https://assets.gov.ie/89950/7a01b63b-8fff-483c-b967-298ffdadbda8.pdf
If Woulfe won’t go to the mountain, then the mountain shall come to him.
All the lads went around for tea and biscuits, and to ‘concern’ a bit together.
A group of senior judges went to visit Supreme Court judge Séamus Woulfe last Friday to express concerns over how he had handled the ‘Golfgate’ affair.
After yesterday’s embarrassing performance on here are you absolutely 100% sure you want to start off a new day by claiming someone looked foolish yesterday ?
Ah, Walter Mitty strikes again.
You mean about how you were made to look like a fool when you tried to tell us that the pubs were selling off out of date beer? Or you saving money on airport parking by parking on street in Hounslow where you have to change the disk daily unless you’re a resident. Or the fact that blight had to get a loan of some US planes to make their ships look full. Any idea when english planes will be available in sufficient numbers? ROFL.
Little britain. There in your damp bedsit with the draught swirling around your ankles while you stir the beans with the trusty computer by your side and you trying to comfort yourself in your Walter Mitty little world.
Tsk tsk.
I suppose it’s to be expected that an Irishman doesn’t know when to stop digging …
Fantastic comeback. Ha haaaaa.
Make sure now when you do decide to go on the piss that you check the Best Before date on the cans.
…NPHET recommendation seems to have been based on the simple observation of increasing cases and the exponential growth that is forecast with it’s knock-on pressure on hospitals and ultimately deaths…if the political judgement is wrong we shall know very soon…
Given that there is a lag between a lockdown occurrence and the change to infection rates; shown earlier in year to be close to 2 weeks – then that alone means it’s too early to reconsider levels in counties with recent changes – Dublin / Donegal etc. Indeed once the new change sets in you’d probably need at least a week , or 8+ data points to be able to be sure of new data range.
…agree Tim…but the measure that nobody can argue with is the trend…life and death decisions are being made by a colleaguate of politicians who have demonstrated their solidarity does not lie with the people who elected them…
It’s going to be like care homes, Direct Provision Centres and meat factories, only for the entire health service.
Have to make sure Larry and Bob are still making money, people’s health is a secondary concern
Situation Normal Ah Sure It’ll Be Grand
Posted similar on the boogieboard thread
but I’m starting to smell a bit of dominant influence now off NPHET
and I’m slowly sinking into the bog hole that Holohan and the DoH / HSE posse are doing what they can to keep the HSE from going so far under that only a firesale liquation stop and start can get it open again
(in fact that’s where it is now, but 3 billion top ups here and there will stop the roof caving in)
Years of mismanagement and feckless oversight by bullet proof public servants is coming back to to haunt many of them there around the NPHET Table
And they know it
All those beds on trollies that were campaign issues,
Screening and misdiagnosis scandals, waiting lists, medical cards, nurses contracts, consultant contracts, a multi billion yoyo children’s hospital that will never perform to even two thirds capacity ……
Hospital Morgues only fit for a 70s sitcom
Remember there are three former Health Ministers in Government already, they all know what lies beneath
Not in the slightest bit surprised they gave NPHET the two fingers last night
and fair play to them
NPHET need to get the finger out themselves
+€17,056 million
It’s quite amusing reading the comments of the lockdown zealots today. Took a look at the Journal comment section (lockdown zealot central) and they are losing their little minds this morning despairing over the failure to go to level 5 and Trump’s declaration that this is something not to fear. The breakdwn in unity between the lockdown zealots and government is a pleasure to watch.
I think there is some planned psychology at play with the cabinet decision to ‘ignore’ the doctor’s urging that we go immediately to a nationwide Level 5 total lockdown. Firstly the government wants the general public to believe that it decides, not the doctors and NPHET. Secondly, after a lot of people express phew that we’re ‘only’ going to Level 3 [everybody except restaraunteurs and publicans that is] the government will ratchet up it to Level 4 after a couple of weeks. Psychology is where government and the general public are at.
Well in any event
I’m organising Hair, Mani Pedi and other bits appointments as we speak
The Pressure!
tis like trying to make the last bus
What other bits are these V ?
scrotum, I’d guess
Personally I think this tort case fronted by Reiner Fuellmich in Germany is what is driving this behaviour because if they can prove that PCR tests should not be driving public policy- then that is when the fireworks start.
So sick of these headlines. This is exactly why more and more people are finding themselves walking away from the mainstream media
Gov goes along with Holohan = they’re all singing his tune and being sheep
Gov goes against Holohan = there’s a big split and we should all be worried.
This is “Gotcha” journalism at it’s worst and it is all pervasive in Ireland now it seems. It is anti-thought, anti-intellect and anti-common sense and I am SICK of it.
Stop wondering why people walk around with “RTE is lying” posters. All you need to know is right on the front pages!
It was “RTÉ is lieing”
Not when these protestors are writing it up it ain’t !
More carrier porn.
The most powerful task force assembled by any European Navy in almost 20 years.
Hands off Rockall Vlad !
https://mobile.twitter.com/UKDefJournal/status/1313384011490897921
Blighty vlads for natural gas.
All the ships in the world won’t change that.
Vladlaughsatblighty
Not unlike ” nuclear-free ” Ireland using nuclear-powered electricity from the UK National Grid then …
* Rolleyes *
Vlad laughs at blighty.
Chortle chortle chortle…
How to be anti-racist without being woke.
Courtesy of the British Army.
https://mobile.twitter.com/BritishArmy/status/1311697705803165705
#thechangingfaceofblighty
‘Specially for you….
“Corporal Kelly’s a terrible drought
Just give him a couple of jars of stout
And he’ll beat the enemy with his mouth
And save the British army”
Yis can all sing out the rest…..
Yis ?
Oh how terribly sweet.
Can you do a little jig as well ?
‘Fraid so. It’s just how it rolls ‘round these parts, Toora Loora…..
A small bit of good news that will go largely unreported today but one that has huge historical significance.
The Foreign Ministers of Israel and the United Arab Emirates are meeting in Berlin. The ministers will visit the Holocaust Museum together and hold a ceremony at the Holocaust Memorial.
A personal diplomatic triumph for Donald Trump.
The same UAE that puts up the kinahan cartel.
You’d swallow anything old boy..
No, I think that’s your mother …
Getting nasty there Charger. I just love sitting back and watch you disintegrate.
I think being rumbled as Alexander has really tormented him.
Well played sir.