69 thoughts on “Tuesday’s Papers

    1. GiggidyGoo

      Just order a box or two of Ian Botham wines. Piddle in, piddle out.
      The state of himself and the simpleton dressed in multicolored garb with a tinker bell wand yesterday. Such palaver. It’s a wonder an Australian waitress or two weren’t invited.

  1. Joe F

    Are you not going to comment on your pal Bozo and the grand job he and his pals are doing at counting. We can send an abacus over to Bozo or Hancrook if you wish. Marvellous.

  2. f_lawless

    https://vimeo.com/465173937
    Varadkar’s interview on RTE tonight was very intriguing.

    “Last Thursday when we received our update in writing there was no suggestion whatsoever that they were contemplating suggesting that we move to level 5.”

    (Sunday night NPHET makes public their recommendation to go to level 5 without consulting the government first)

    “We sat down with them today, heard them out..allowed them to make their case and we decided not to accept the advice….Nothing has changed in the space of three days that warranted changing from level 2 to level 5”

    “NPHET’s assessment that our hospitals were imminently facing the possibility of being overwhelmed, our ICUs and our beds, was not shared by the CEO of the HSE and the HSE board were not consulted on that.”

    Very strange behaviour Just who is pulling NPHET’s strings one has to wonder! If only it was more transparent how these decisions are being arrived at.

          1. GiggidyGoo

            Enter Alexander Alexandria, Chargers trusty man-servant. Always on hand. beans for two anyone?

      1. goldenbrown

        hm.
        given that Prone was on the follow-up shift this morning fawning over her boss and overexplaining the leak I’d say you might not be a million miles off there Giggidy. course you’ll never prove that.

      2. GiggidyGoo

        Sorry – I should have written ‘advises’ instead on ‘meets’.

        The CMO was also told that Thursday’s letter from NPHET and Sunday’s letter to government were “irreconcilable”.

        So Sunday, Nphet sends a letter to Government, and there’s a leak.

        2+2=4 Still. Unless any of you bright sparks have other, opposite information?

        1. GiggidyGoo

          Running out of ideas there Charger?
          Very easy to get to you in the end. Can give it, but can’t take it. What to doooooo, what to dooooo? Oh yeah, post something about blighty and it’s aircraft shortage. ROFL.
          Look at your posts today… up to 9.9 on the Sure Have Inferiority Troubles meter.
          Yourself and your Big Fat Greek mate are some yokes alright. I hear they do Fridge Tubs of beans these days – enough for two.

  3. Formerly known as @ireland.com

    Trump – you can’t cure idiot! He gets the best treatment possible, including unapproved treatments, then tells us that Covid should not dominate us. Check the other headlines for how Covid does dominate the real world.

    1. Charger Salmons

      Actually Trump received the same treatment that many other Americans have received to cope with Covid-19.
      The point he was making was that life must go on and that patients who contract Covid-19 shouldn’t let the fear of it dominate their lives as many more people are successfully recovering from it.
      The message is no different than that regularly conveyed by scientific experts and indeed many people on here.
      But your little bit of virtue-signalling made you feel very smug didn’t it ?

      1. Brother Barnabas

        well… the same treatment that many other Americans *with the financial means or insurance cover to pay for it* received

        the majority wont get anything close to that

      2. goldenbrown

        nope, I don’t believe he’s ever had it

        an electioneering ruse as you say

        a made for TV mini-drama

        only question is are Americans stupid enough to buy it

      3. george

        Actually no he didn’t receive the same treatment as everyone else. He is receiving a drug that fewer than 10 people outside of clinical trials have received.

        1. Charger Salmons

          Actually his treatment of Aspirin and Remdesevir is commonly available and widely used for Covid-19.
          The experimental drug has not been proven to succeed so why should it be in common use yet ?
          Remember when Trump was widely dissed for suggesting such drugs could be helpful ?
          The wokeratti are just upset he made such a quick recovery.

    1. SOQ

      Dunno- I get the feeling there is an element of ‘how to boil a frog’ in all of this. If the government had to say the country was going into stage 3 on its own, people would be asking why- so NPHET goes high and they go low.

      The whole point of this plan was to be able to lock down counties therefore minimising impact but that seems to have been thrown out the window now- despite the fact that some have a very low infection rate .

      Of course we still don’t know if this decision is based on questionable ‘cases’- or on actual hospital and ICU admissions.

  4. GiggidyGoo

    If Woulfe won’t go to the mountain, then the mountain shall come to him.
    All the lads went around for tea and biscuits, and to ‘concern’ a bit together.

    A group of senior judges went to visit Supreme Court judge Séamus Woulfe last Friday to express concerns over how he had handled the ‘Golfgate’ affair.

  5. Charger Salmons

    After yesterday’s embarrassing performance on here are you absolutely 100% sure you want to start off a new day by claiming someone looked foolish yesterday ?

    1. GiggidyGoo

      Ah, Walter Mitty strikes again.
      You mean about how you were made to look like a fool when you tried to tell us that the pubs were selling off out of date beer? Or you saving money on airport parking by parking on street in Hounslow where you have to change the disk daily unless you’re a resident. Or the fact that blight had to get a loan of some US planes to make their ships look full. Any idea when english planes will be available in sufficient numbers? ROFL.
      Little britain. There in your damp bedsit with the draught swirling around your ankles while you stir the beans with the trusty computer by your side and you trying to comfort yourself in your Walter Mitty little world.
      Tsk tsk.

      1. Charger Salmons

        I suppose it’s to be expected that an Irishman doesn’t know when to stop digging …

        1. GiggidyGoo

          Fantastic comeback. Ha haaaaa.
          Make sure now when you do decide to go on the piss that you check the Best Before date on the cans.

  6. bisted

    …NPHET recommendation seems to have been based on the simple observation of increasing cases and the exponential growth that is forecast with it’s knock-on pressure on hospitals and ultimately deaths…if the political judgement is wrong we shall know very soon…

    1. Tinytim

      Given that there is a lag between a lockdown occurrence and the change to infection rates; shown earlier in year to be close to 2 weeks – then that alone means it’s too early to reconsider levels in counties with recent changes – Dublin / Donegal etc. Indeed once the new change sets in you’d probably need at least a week , or 8+ data points to be able to be sure of new data range.

      1. bisted

        …agree Tim…but the measure that nobody can argue with is the trend…life and death decisions are being made by a colleaguate of politicians who have demonstrated their solidarity does not lie with the people who elected them…

    2. Nigel

      It’s going to be like care homes, Direct Provision Centres and meat factories, only for the entire health service.

  7. Q Celt

    Have to make sure Larry and Bob are still making money, people’s health is a secondary concern

  8. Vanessanelle

    Posted similar on the boogieboard thread

    but I’m starting to smell a bit of dominant influence now off NPHET
    and I’m slowly sinking into the bog hole that Holohan and the DoH / HSE posse are doing what they can to keep the HSE from going so far under that only a firesale liquation stop and start can get it open again
    (in fact that’s where it is now, but 3 billion top ups here and there will stop the roof caving in)
    Years of mismanagement and feckless oversight by bullet proof public servants is coming back to to haunt many of them there around the NPHET Table
    And they know it

    All those beds on trollies that were campaign issues,
    Screening and misdiagnosis scandals, waiting lists, medical cards, nurses contracts, consultant contracts, a multi billion yoyo children’s hospital that will never perform to even two thirds capacity ……
    Hospital Morgues only fit for a 70s sitcom

    Remember there are three former Health Ministers in Government already, they all know what lies beneath

    Not in the slightest bit surprised they gave NPHET the two fingers last night
    and fair play to them
    NPHET need to get the finger out themselves

  9. E'Matty

    It’s quite amusing reading the comments of the lockdown zealots today. Took a look at the Journal comment section (lockdown zealot central) and they are losing their little minds this morning despairing over the failure to go to level 5 and Trump’s declaration that this is something not to fear. The breakdwn in unity between the lockdown zealots and government is a pleasure to watch.

  10. Gabby

    I think there is some planned psychology at play with the cabinet decision to ‘ignore’ the doctor’s urging that we go immediately to a nationwide Level 5 total lockdown. Firstly the government wants the general public to believe that it decides, not the doctors and NPHET. Secondly, after a lot of people express phew that we’re ‘only’ going to Level 3 [everybody except restaraunteurs and publicans that is] the government will ratchet up it to Level 4 after a couple of weeks. Psychology is where government and the general public are at.

    1. SOQ

      Personally I think this tort case fronted by Reiner Fuellmich in Germany is what is driving this behaviour because if they can prove that PCR tests should not be driving public policy- then that is when the fireworks start.

  11. NobleLocks

    So sick of these headlines. This is exactly why more and more people are finding themselves walking away from the mainstream media

    Gov goes along with Holohan = they’re all singing his tune and being sheep
    Gov goes against Holohan = there’s a big split and we should all be worried.

    This is “Gotcha” journalism at it’s worst and it is all pervasive in Ireland now it seems. It is anti-thought, anti-intellect and anti-common sense and I am SICK of it.

    Stop wondering why people walk around with “RTE is lying” posters. All you need to know is right on the front pages!

    1. Pat Mustard

      Blighty vlads for natural gas.

      All the ships in the world won’t change that.

      Vladlaughsatblighty

      1. Charger Salmons

        Not unlike ” nuclear-free ” Ireland using nuclear-powered electricity from the UK National Grid then …

        * Rolleyes *

    1. Rosette of Sirius

      ‘Specially for you….

      “Corporal Kelly’s a terrible drought
      Just give him a couple of jars of stout
      And he’ll beat the enemy with his mouth
      And save the British army”

      Yis can all sing out the rest…..

  12. Charger Salmons

    A small bit of good news that will go largely unreported today but one that has huge historical significance.
    The Foreign Ministers of Israel and the United Arab Emirates are meeting in Berlin. The ministers will visit the Holocaust Museum together and hold a ceremony at the Holocaust Memorial.
    A personal diplomatic triumph for Donald Trump.

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