Sealing Their Fate


Minister for Children, Disability, Equality and Integration Roderic O’Gorman

This afternoon.

Minister for Children, Disability, Equality and Integration Roderic O’Gorman responds (above) to criticism of the Government’s bill to allow the Mother and Baby Homes Commission’s archive to be sealed for 30 years (except for a database on mothers and children detained in 11 institutions which it wants to give to TUSLA).

Dr Maeve O’Rourke, a barrister, lecturer and Director of the Human Rights Law Clinic, writes:

‘The Bill shows the Oireachtas is not bound by the provisions of the 2004 Commissions of Investigation Act. It can legislate – as it is intending to do regarding the database & records it wants to send to TUSLA – to ‘un-seal’ material gathered or created by the Commission.

The Commissions of Investigation Act 2004 was never the appropriate legislation on which to base an inquiry into grave and systematic human rights abuse, including enforce disappearance, because of its provisions around confidentiality. I and many others argued this in 2015.

The 2004 Act did not absolutely require the Commission to proceed in private. The Commission had discretion under the 2004 Act to conduct some of its inquiry in public. It chose not to do so. As we and global law firm Hogans Lovells recorded in the @clann_project report, the Commission refused requests for public hearings without giving specific reasons.

Since 2018, the GDPR & Data Protection Act 2018 has applied to records gathered by Commissions of Investigation, with the proviso that personal data can only be withheld (see s198 of 2018 Act):

‘To safeguard the effective operation of commissions and the future cooperation of witnesses.’

How could allowing survivors of forced family separation and relatives of disappeared and deceased infants to access personal data hamper the Commission’s effective operation?

More to the point, once the Commission is finished and the archive held by the Minister, how could the exceptions to the right of personal data access set out in s198 of the 2018 Act apply?

So, even under current legislation, it seems the archive should not be fully ‘sealed’.

The Minister seems to argue that the ‘sealing’ of the entire archive in his office for 30 years (save for what goes to TUSLA) is in the interests of those who suffered abuse.

The Government argued the same in support of the Retention of Records Bill 2019 – seeking to seal for 75 yrs every single document in the archives of the Ryan Commission and the Residential Institutions Redress Board.

Several points need to be understood here:

1. Nobody is requesting that the public have access to the personal data of those affected.

2. The Commission of Investigation gave people no choice: it held no public hearings and it refused to allow anyone have a transcript of the evidence they gave to the Commission. (Nor did it allow access to any personal data or information about deceased relatives that it held.)

3. Those affected by the abuse under investigation should, under European human rights law, have been enabled to participate properly in the inquiry and to see the evidence coming in from the State and other institutions responsible for the family separation system.

4. They should now have the option of receiving a copy of all of their personal data and information about disappeared family members that the Commission gathered, and they should be entitled to their own transcript of evidence.

5. Crucially, the Minister must inform the public of what kinds of records he intends to seal for 30 years. They likely include innumerable state and institutional administrative records, which are crucial to piecing together how the system of forced family separation operated.

6. Those who suffered grave and systematic human rights abuses have the right, not only to know what happened to them or their relative, but ALSO to have the truth of the system told publicly -in the sense of releasing administrative records, which can be anonymised as necessary.

There has been little to no legal accountability for so-called ‘historical’ institutional, adoption and gender-based abuse in Ireland – no systematic measures to allow access to court or to ensure prosecutions. Barriers are everywhere.

The least we can do is tell the whole truth.

Both the Minister and the Oireachtas have full power to give access to the archive for those personally affected – now.

After that, the question of national education needs to be addressed. A dedicated archive and museum could be an alternative response, not only to the issue of the Mother and Baby Homes Commission archive, but also to the current secrecy of the McAleese archive which contains all state records on the Magdalene Laundries – and the archives of the Ryan Commission and RIRB which are currently in limbo.

In January 2020, the Information Commissioner found (in the case of Mrs P) that the Department of the Taoiseach cannot continue to claim that it is holding the McAleese archive ‘for safe keeping’ and not for the purposes of Freedom of Information.

Last November the Oireachtas Education and Skills Committee rightly decided that the Retention of Records Bill 2019 would cause further abuse.

The time has come for a holistic, mature response to our history – one that becomes us as the nation we want to and really could be.’

Last Friday: Access Denied


Justice For Magdalenes Research write:

The Government is progressing this Bill at lightning speed. Yet the relatives of disappeared women and children throughout the country, and living survivors and adopted people, have been denied any access to the Commission of Investigation’s archive.

Witnesses have even been denied a transcript of the evidence that they gave to the Commission of Investigation.

The ‘sealing’ of abuse records has to end.

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28 thoughts on “Sealing Their Fate

  1. Bebe

    Survivors and families have from early morning been emailing and writing snail mail letters to the Minister and various representatives in an effort to change the narrative. Make no mistake, this is further silencing of Ireland’s courageous survivors many of whom found it difficult in the first instance to trust the system.

    Because the ‘system’ protects itself, it doesn’t see equality, it doesn’t do accountability. There is absolutely nothing standing in the way of the Minister right now providing access to this material to the people it affects most, so that together we can learn from mistakes of the past. The administrative records alone are vast, they provide much that will make us understand the ‘how’ and the ‘why;.

    Remembering all survivors today but especially the late Paddy Doyle. You always said we deserve better Paddy and you fought so that we would enjoy parity – we are not there yet. But there’s a wealth of support to truth, to justice, to standing tall no longer in shadows, facing a future that our countrymen and women deserve.

    Thanks Bodger for your dedication to this.

    “”Who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.” – George Orwell

    1. Cú Chulainn

      Thanks Bebe, it was ever thus. Carpet, sweep. Forget. Move on. Would you ever stop being the victim. Have YOU no mercy. They did their best. Everyone got slapped. It didn’t do me any harm. I could go on. Thanks for your comment. I don’t know why we expect more from the so called left or liberal. Some people hurt others. Some people don’t.

  2. gringo

    The state still considers many of its citizens to be expendable, and less than equal. The preservation of wealth and property is more important than justice, and the Green right-wing extremists have no problem with that.

  3. uncle gaybo

    Thanks for highlighting this Broadsheet. I saw blindboy posting about it earlier and didn’t believe it could be true. What a country we live in.

  4. GiggidyGoo

    Email emailed.
    I wonder what Minister O’Gorman’s reaction will be to this? The last attack on him did bring, eventually, a reaction from him and many others. Will the reaction and reply be as fulsome this time round?

    Not to forget Zappone either, or Fitzgerald, who like to seal things up.

  5. Daisy Chainsaw

    This isn’t about protecting survivors, it’s about protecting their slavers, traffickers and abusers.

    Same as it ever was.

    1. E'Matty

      Looks like we’re on the same page for a change Daisy. This is a disgrace. It’s 100% about protecting the perpetrators.

    1. Janet, dreams of big guns

      Haven’t they read their bible ?
      Ecclesiastes Chpt.7:16 Be not righteous overmuch, and do not make yourself overwise.

    1. bisted

      ‘…who knew the greens were as bad as FG’

      …well, not many of those who included them in their preferences in the last election…it seems at least 75percent of the membership are ok with it though…

  6. H

    What a bunch of absolute ladyparts! Covering their own backsides as usual, I’m sorry to say it but Geldof was right when he labelled Ireland a banana republic – and I mean the government here not long suffering citizens.

  7. italia'90

    Started getting replies from our representatives just after 6pm last evening.
    Cracking reply from Thomas Pringle.
    A please FCUK OFF from Eamon Ryan, (paraphrasing here)don’t be emailing me about this subject, here’s my other email Addy if you want to email me about the stuff I’m actually concerned about, not what the rabble are concerned about, and by the way, did I tell you to F OFF yet? ***Wanker
    Email spam filter seems to have kicked in about 20:20pm BUT
    Over 2000 emails have so far been sent and received.
    Well done to all who made the effort so far.
    Please keep it up and pass it on.

    1. Daniel

      I heavily modified my email so hopefully it gets through.
      I don’t know how anyone can stand there and present this bill unless they have no conscience or soul.
      Anyone that supports the bill as it currently stands has to be a psychopath to ignore the pain, hurt and abuse its causing and the ongoing pleas from the survivors and families.

      I will be disgusted and ashamed for our country and society if they manage to seal the records.

      Keep fighting,

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