All Stick, No Carrot

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From top: Minister for Health Stephen Donnelly leaving government buildings on Sunday evening; Taoiseach Micheál addressing the nation on Level 5 restrictions last night

This morning

A proposal by Minister for Health Stephen Donnelly that would allow for fixed charge notices or fines for breaches of rona regulations will be brought to cabinet today.

Via RTE:

This would be underpinned by changes to legislation dating back to 1947.

It is likely penalties could be introduced for breaches of the regulation that states people must exercise within 5km of their home.

Official documents last night said that there will be a penalty for movement outside the 5km limit, unless it is for essential work, medical appointments or providing care to children or the elderly.

1947, anyone?

Fines for breaching Covid-19 rules on Cabinet agenda (RTÉ)

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17 thoughts on “All Stick, No Carrot

  1. Janet, I ate my avatar

    bend over now and bite down on your pillow, it will hurt but you’ll grow to accept it maybe even like it

  2. Nomad

    Can we not do the “rona” word please, it just comes across as middle class hipsterish and pretentious, there’s nothing vintage it retro bout this Pandemic.

  3. Sure Jaysus You Know Yourself

    Why is nobody asking the right question! Not do we need a lockdown. We possibly/probably do at this stage. It’s how did we arrive at this point. We had one of the longest, most severe initial lockdowns of any European country yet we’re here today! Are we really doing things so differently as a population! I don’t think so. Are we more infectious as a race! No. Why? Why, after having a “successful” initial 10 week lockdown are we back here today? It doesn’t make sense. Something isn’t getting done properly!

    Lets ask the questions “are our track and trace system under resourced? Is it short staffed? Are the IT systems sufficient to deal with the data coloration required? Is there slow cross refencing between the relevant civil service departments? Is there duplication of data processing slowing down the system? Is all of this leading to insufficient and inefficient responses required to deal with a quickly evolving situation.( Basically are our public servants up to the Job – I’d suggest not) Is our government essentially laying the blame at the doorstep of the Irish people for their lack of ability while hiding behind a wall of RTE blame ?

    If this was a private company the wastage would be questioned and stopped. We’re bout to spend billions keeping people at home again only to re-open in 6 weeks back in to the same lack of cohesion! It’s going to be the same again after all this unless we get some brains and “outside the box” thinking in to the rigid and lacking in imagination civil service.

    1. Hank

      I think you need to have a look at the covid rate graphs for all European countries that had lockdown. it’s the same pattern for them all I’m afraid. It seems there is a pattern to infection rates. Lockdowns can disrupt the patterns but it looks like, ultimately, they just delay the inevitable. So, maybe people should move away from the “it’s our own fault” mentality.

      1. Janet, dreams of warm feet

        but it fits so nicely into the self flagellation teachings of christianity, all sinners

  4. cecil

    Lets ask the questions “are our track and trace system under resourced? Is it short staffed? Are the IT systems sufficient to deal with the data coloration required? Is there slow cross refencing between the relevant civil service departments? Is there duplication of data processing slowing down the system? Is all of this leading to insufficient and inefficient responses required to deal with a quickly evolving situation.( Basically are our public servants up to the Job – I’d suggest not) Is our government essentially laying the blame at the doorstep of the Irish people for their lack of ability while hiding behind a wall of RTE blame ?

    YES

    1. Sure Jaysus You Know Yourself

      Absolutely. The problem now is how people are going to act. My guess is the problem is just about to get worse, not better. Lockdown 1 had huge buy in. This doesn’t. We’re just about to give birth to a huge amount of covert behaviour. Now given that our bunch of one dimensional, monolithic, lumbering public sector employees cant deal with the upfront and relatively transparent information they’re asked to process at the moment, what hope have we when everyone starts acting like they’re living in prohibition American times. 7 months to sort a plan! 7 months and the plan is straight outta Father Ted. ” Is there anything to be said for another Lockdown!

  5. Joe Small

    This site is slowly morphing into politics.ie – full of comments from loons who represent no one but themselves. I’m surprised Bodger is given so much leeway to send Broadsheet down this road.

    1. SOQ

      Business going to the wall, unemployment, missed medical diagnoses and treatments, alcohol and drug abuse and the list goes on and on. Now maybe none of that affects you in any meaningful way Joe but it certainly affects most of us.

      We are going into near house arrest for 6 weeks and we are told that if we are good little children we might be allowed to have a Christmas. Except even if they do open up for Christmas people are going to be milling around ALL AT THE ONE TIME so infection rates are bound to spike again.

      And then we be told it is all our own fault again and we deserve to be punished again except the hospitals are still in a state and the nursing home residents are no more protected than they were last March.

      They are wrecking the country with their bloody minded ‘experts’ except- sickness and fatalities are nowhere near where they last time and neither will they be so- why are they doing this?

      https://twitter.com/i/status/1318451834151981056

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