Headbangers And The Status Quo

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A rally against Covid restrictions at Custom House Quay, Dublin in August

For those about to lockdown.

He salutes you.

The rest?

Well

Gene Kerrigan, in The Sunday Independent, writes:

There are times when I envy the headbangers – those groups that promote crank politics in which everything is either deep state or fake news. Or both.

Their world is so simple. Everyone is corrupt except the people who claim everyone is corrupt.

It’s a lovely circular world, easy to understand.

Covid-19 has given them a fresh field in which to grow simple stories of deep corruption by hidden forces.

The rest of us strut and fret in a much more complex world. Which is why I envy the simple, clear and self-righteous views of the headbangers….

Later…

“Lockdowns alone will not work,” said WHO’s Mike Ryan, shortly after the coronavirus emergency began.

So the headbangers, in their simple world, left out the word ‘alone’ and shrieked: “The WHO said lockdowns don’t work, so Nphet is corrupt – see, everyone is corrupt.”

Later…

I dunno.

Maybe Tony Holohan wants to be Emperor of Ireland.

Maybe he’s been hiding a political ambition under that lifetime of public health work.

Perhaps he has a relative in Wuhan. Anyone check that out? Maybe the relative started the whole thing so Tony could become popular and…

Sorry, I seem to have inadvertently switched into headbanger mode for just a moment.

FIGHT!

Also: any excuse.

Revelling in the new FF-FG v Nphet rivalry (Gene Kerrigan, Sunday Independent)

Previously: Gene And Vincent

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76 thoughts on “Headbangers And The Status Quo

  1. SOQ

    Personally I don’t think conspiracy theorists are stupid or simple- quite the opposite. I know of some who are the opposite, too bloody intelligent. They are of a cynical or suspicious mindset which is actually quite healthy and when all is said and done, they are just trying to make sense of this lockdown madness like the rest of us.

    Where some of these people make a mistake however is to assume that others are as intelligent as they are when in fact- the calibre of especially politicians we elect- and of recent times journalists- leaves a lot to be desired.

    Sometimes things are exactly as they seem- stupid- like this double downed refusal to accept that that CoVid-19 is going to run its course no matter what we do.

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    1. paul

      or conspiracy theorists feel afraid and lost in a large complex world so the only control they feel they can exhibit is to fit their circumstances into a neat box labelled ‘they are out to get you’.

      I will say that there is no point attacking conspiracy theorists, they’ve built their walls and it’s up to them to take them down again and come to terms that everyone, including themselves, are largely too thick to organise anything as large and malicious as the conspiracies that they imagine.

      The few conspiracy theorists that I’ve met (through my work and out and about) have, by themselves, been nice enough people. Angry at one thing or another and getting them to talk about how they feel rather than the conspiracies themselves have revealed that they are frustrated and want a tangible ‘enemy’ to face rather than the nebulous state of affairs awaiting us outside each day. I don’t doubt that some one them are intelligent folk but they’ve twisted themselves into such knots that their intelligence has damaged any ability they have to discern the real world.

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      1. MME

        +1 Paul. Conspiracy theorists are generally angry and befuddled people (not necessarily bad) but they simply don’t know what is the real source of their malaise hence the tendency to gravitate towards outlandish theories for succour. Invariably, the nebulous and ever-changing nature of these theories, usually tapping into age-old prejudices, bolsters believers in their pursuit of a certain truth without ever having to confront the far less fantastical reality.

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        1. Micko

          Jesus lads.

          “Conspiracy theorists” are not a singular group of people. You can’t group them altogether and assign attributes to them based on the few people who you’ve met.

          That’s really dangerous thinking.

          I have a mate that doesn’t believe in the moon landings and believes in the whole 9/11 inside job bit, but he doesn’t believe that the earth is flat or similar.

          And even if he did, I wouldn’t stop hanging around with him any more than I would stop hanging out with my friends who are religious.

          Don’t surround yourself just with people who think the same – dangerous stuff.

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          1. paul

            they’re a spectrum. I agree with you there. Some more affected, some less, some believing in a wide variety of conspiracies and some believing in one or two. Doesn’t change what I said above though.

          2. Oro

            Believing in lies is dangerous thinking. And suggesting others believe said lies as a way of understand the world.

            Making a broad analysis of why people think like that is just good exercise.

          3. bisted

            …would your mate be called Bodger…he may not have been completely honest about the flat earth stuff and everybody knows it was Earths birthday last Thursday…23 Oct…

          4. MME

            I agree with Paul. Question of spectrum. You’ve got the Gemma brigade that are paid-up (literally) conspiracists – from Qanon Trumpers to 5G Covidistas. Then of course you’ve got the ordinary decent who’ll hit you from out of nowhere with a conspiracy clanger.

            Still, certain traits do lead people to be more receptive and less discriminating to the outlandish and wacky.

            In this Covid era, there is a certain febrile air about so I do think this climate is ripe for pushing conspiracy theories as a larger group of receptive ears abound given governmental mishandling around the world. I see this in the BS comments which in a way I find fascinating – looks at SOQ – E’Matty and me aul mucker Giggidy.

          5. benblack

            I don’t think it has anything to do with spectrum.

            Some conspiracy theories are true, some are not.

            E’Matty is very well informed and well able to make intelligent inferences and draw accurate conclusions.

            SOQ, has been proven correct in his very early questioning of this Covid pandemic amid a torrent of abuse.

          6. MME

            I won’t slate you for defending your mates but I obviously disagree. SOQ is actually reasonably polite even when he is riled up and he knows when to stop. That said he is given to outrageous hyperbole and I can’t fathom the whole “face nappy” thing he goes on about. The other two, well, bonkers.

            E’Matty puts in a big effort but does anyone actually read his posts? (I confess I don’t). It is more the sheer posting effort in terms of volume – lengthy streams of consciousness – I find incredulous.

            Giggidy, well he doesn’t like anyone disagreeing with him and I find the immediate touchiness strangely amusing but she REALLY needs to get a few hours sleep man!

          7. benblack

            I’m sure all three individuals would not consider me their ‘mate’ – a term I find irritating, BTW – and, I, not theirs.

            I’ll address each in the order that you’ve mentioned them.

            SOQ was called every name under the sun when he questioned and challenged the Covid narrative. His sources – qualified persons – were attacked and derided for their use of the youtube platform to disseminate their qualified views as if somehow the use of the platform itself – MSM would not touch them – invalidated their qualified, scientific opinions. He provided links and supported all viewpoints with reference to the data.

            He, too, was learning(and informing) along the way, so, of course, he didn’t get everything correct – your face-nappy reference. On the substantive issue, though, he was wholly correct and has been proven to be so.

            The fact that you have admitted to not reading E’Matty’s posts due to a personal concentration level speaks for itself.

            Giggidy’s sleeping habits are none of my business, however, she appears to be an early riser – is that really a bone contention?

          8. Cú Chulainn

            You mate is quite right so.. therefore, not a conspiracy theorist.. just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean…

          9. Clampers Outside

            You all need to read The Heretics by Will Stor

            “Why do obviously intelligent people believe things in spite of the evidence against them?

            Will Storr has travelled across the world to meet an extraordinary cast of modern heretics in order to answer this question. He goes on a tour of Holocaust sites with David Irving and a band of neo-Nazis, experiences his own murder during ‘past-life regression’ hypnosis, takes part in a mass homeopathic overdose, and *investigates a new disease affecting tens of thousands of people – a disease that doesn’t actually exist*.

            Using a unique mix of personal memoir, investigative journalism and the latest research from neuroscience and experimental psychology, Storr reveals why the facts just won’t convince some people, and how the neurological ‘hero-maker’ inside all of us can so easily lead to self-deception and science-denial. The Heretics will change the way you think about thinking.”

            https://www.amazon.co.uk/Heretics-Adventures-Enemies-Science/dp/0330535862

  2. Micko

    I’m not a big fan of conspiracy theories and I DON’T believe that this whole Covid thing is some big agenda or some bio-weapon that was created a lab to bring about a one-world government or whatever Hank Scorpio type narrative you want to fit to it. We’re just not that smart.

    But, if you think that the entire thing hasn’t been hijacked to suit the purposes of political and business agendas around the globe – we’ll that’s just naive.

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    1. NotHysterical

      Rather than a conspiracy devised in a backroom clouded in cigar smoke, I’d wager we have a set of unrelated circumstances that have conspired to bring us to where we are.

      A declining media over-sensationalising covid to grab eyeballs, coupled with echo-chamber social media where complex issues are over simplfied and emotionally charged to fit a point of view, makes it difficult for policy makers to ignore. The squeaky wheel that gets the grease is amplified.

      In addition we have further concentrated centers of power that defer to risk-averse advisors.

      The solution is to rely on our checks and balances of power, not to avoid them with “guidlines accepted as law” and covid-shaming.

      We have the tools.

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    2. Frank

      again Micko well said.
      its not a gigantic conspiracy but it is being used. used by the teachers. used by the health service. used by the guards. used by civil servants used by everyone in a salaried job that simply never wants this to end.

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      1. Nigel

        What a disgusting statement. Really, for feck’s sake, get a grip. Calling people who come out with this headbangers is being too kind.

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      2. Micko

        Ta Frank

        I wish you were wrong, but everyone I know in a state job thought lockdown was great the first time around. Anecdotal I know, but seems like a coincidence.

        Not so much this time with winter approaching – but sure what can ya do. The crappy winter coming might be the reason we’re seeing more and more people, not into this lockdown and why we’re seeing the alternative narrative on Irish mainstream media.

        What we saw on Prime Time last week would NEVER have been allowed a couple of months back
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qgn4B2Iq2cg

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        1. benblack

          ‘The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he doesn’t exist’

          Couldn’t have done it without the help of his online minions.

          Public service.

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        2. benblack

          Great, so I’m the devil himself now, am I?

          *stomps hoof*

          Or should I say, thanks for your service.

          P.S. Let’s keep this between you and me.

          ;-)

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  3. j9

    Check out the anthill podcast on conspiracy theories. It’s a good analysis of how and why people get caught up in them – well worth a listen.

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  4. GiggidyGoo

    Gene should read ‘The Big Lie’. A relatively modern book going back to 2007. This book confronts the propaganda that austerity has merely hit Ireland as it has hit everywhere else; that we’re all in it together.

    “It’s just bad luck; a knock-on effect of a US structural collapse far, far away. As long as we share the burden through cuts and more taxes we’ll come through. The Big Lie truly drills down into the street, the hospital waiting lists and the kitchen economics of the majority.
    There’s no conspiracy theory — this is conspiracy fact. Gene Kerrigan names and shames those responsible in an unprecedented way. He doesn’t much care for greedy bankers and corrupt politicians. He screams out their huge salaries and the lapses in Irish tax legislation “…laws that were created but were not enforced”.

    Oh yeah – I forgot – Gene Kerrigan wrote it. He was a ‘headbanger’ himself, but somehow between then and now, conspiracy theories are suddenly not his cup of tea? Maybe it’s because he’s working with a company which is supported by…us….the taxpayer? I shouldn’t be saying that of course, as it’s a…. conspiracy theory.

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    1. one username please

      We could add the Pentagon Papers, the Snowden revelations\leaks, documentary evidence of Operation Northwoods as examples of where the Conspiracy Theorists got it wrong. In fact, it was worse.

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  5. E'Matty

    Here’s ten “crazy” conspiracy theories that anyone espousing was derided for at the time but were ultimately proven factual. I’ve provided msm sources where possible.

    1. The NSA are spying on us all and harvesting our data https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-23123964

    2. The Iraq war was about Oil, not WMDs: Former U.S. Secretary of Defense – and former 12-year Republican Senator – Chuck Hagel said of the Iraq war in 2007: “People say we’re not fighting for oil. Of course we are”. 4 Star General John Abizaid – the former commander of CENTCOM with responsibility for Iraq – said: “Of course it’s about oil, it’s very much about oil, and we can’t really deny that.” Former Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan said in 2007: “I am saddened that it is politically inconvenient to acknowledge what everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil”

    3. The US and UK governments have for decades been developing weather manipulation technologies, including Stratospheric Aerosol Injections (SAIs).: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/shortcuts/2015/feb/16/can-the-cia-weaponise-the-weather-geoengineering https://www.seas.harvard.edu/news/2019/03/finding-right-dose-for-solar-geoengineering John Brennan, former CIA Director discusses SAIs at the CFR. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B7x1lr2KN8

    4. The US government and CIA were testing LSD and other hallucinogenic drugs on American citizens in secret behaviour modification experiments: The MK Ultra Programme https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/03/montreal-brainwashing-allan-memorial-institute https://www.newsweek.com/project-mkultra-documents-cia-brainwashing-techniques-black-vault-1073061

    5. The British and US governments tested chemical and biological weapons on their own unsuspecting citizens during the Cold War https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/how-the-british-government-subjected-thousands-of-people-to-chemical-and-biological-warfare-trials-10376411.html
    Operation Seaspray: https://www.businessinsider.com/the-military-tested-bacterial-weapons-in-san-francisco-2015-7?r=US&IR=T

    6. The US carried out human radiation experiments including on mentally disabled children. https://www.nytimes.com/1995/08/20/us/count-of-subjects-in-radiation-experiments-is-raised-to-16000.html
    https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/medical-history/article/advisory-committee-on-human-radiation-experiments-ruth-faden-chair-the-human-radiation-experiments-final-report-of-the-presidents-advisory-committee-on-human-radiation-experiments-new-york-oxford-university-press-1996-pp-xxi-620-3995-0195107926/1BB7A85C6702810321D345BDF5EE90A4

    7. The US led western and Gulf State alliance in Syria knew as early as 2012 that the opposition to Assad was dominated by Salafists, Al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood. They also knew support for the opposition would lead to a Salafist Caliphate across eastern Syria and western Iraq. The US led western alliance supported the opposition despite knowing this as it sought to destabilise and overthrow the Assad regime. US Defense Intelligence Agency Report on Syria Summer 2012 http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Pg.-291-Pgs.-287-293-JW-v-DOD-and-State-14-812-DOD-Release-2015-04-10-final-version11.pdf See p3 para B & C, P5 para 7B and 8C

    8. The Gulf of Tonkin incident, the pretext for the war on Vietnam, never actually happened. Johnson admitted there was no attack and was quoted as saying, “For all I know, our Navy was shooting at whales out there.” In 2005, official documents from the National Security Agency were released that confirmed that the whole Gulf of Tonkin attack never happened and was fabricated to gain support the war. http://www.pbs.org/now/politics/foia06.html

    9. Major Big Pharma corporations were illegally testing their drugs on babies and orphans: GSK fined for illegal testing of vaccines on babies of poor Argentinian families https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/9006614/GlaxoSmithKline-fined-over-trials-on-the-babies-of-Argentinian-poor.html GSK use orphans and babies as guinea pigs and test animals for HIV drug in NY nursing home https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/apr/04/usa.highereducation

    10. A Big Pharma Corp knowingly sold HIV contaminated blood products to Asia and Latin America after withdrawing them from the EU and US markets: Bayer paid “tens of millions” of dollars to end a three-decade long scandal in which the company sold HIV-contaminated blood products to haemophiliacs, thousands of whom later died of AIDS https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bayer-admits-it-paid-millions-in-hiv-infection-cases-just-not-in-english/
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/may/23/aids.suzannegoldenberg

    Kerrigen is a well intentioned simpleton. Stick to national politics Gene, geopolitics ain’t your thing. If Gene even followed the money in this Covid Scare Project, he’d have spotted a glaring conflict of interest. Gene trusts global organisations and politicians, just not national orgnaisations and politicians.

    People use the term “conspiracy theory” anytime a conversation steps outside their conditioned narrow overtown window. They think it’s an argument ender that allows them to avoid ever having to actually consider or refute the points made. A few silly “conspiracy theories” like aliens or flat earth nonsense are pushed into the public domain and it allows these half wits to avoid ever having to face anything the media doesn’t sign off on as real. Just lump it into the “crazy conspiracy theory” box with the aliens or flat earther loons, and Bob’s your uncle, back to safe comfortable delusions.

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    1. Nigel

      None of those were conspiracy theories. They were all revelaed through investigative reporting, whistleblowing, legal investigations or the opening of documents. This is akin to people who invoke Einstein as someone who was mocked and rejected when they’re pushing Intelligent Design. Einstein was never mocked or rejected.

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  6. Eoin

    I remember hearing about Jeffrey Epsteins antics over a decade ago from conspiracy theorists. I’m sure if someone had said that pharma companies were testing their drugs out on orphans in Ireland that would have been labelled a conspiracy theory too. And rightly so. That’s how theories work. They are theory until proven true or false. Unfortunately, the term is loaded nowadays to mean crackpot, false etc.

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    1. bisted

      …ah Eoin…no word has been appropriated more than theory…it has a very precise meaning…it is the highest form of evidence based belief…like gravity…evolution…the word you seem to be grasping for is hypothesis…I may be wrong…

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      1. SOQ

        You are sounding like Professor Carl James Heneghan director of the University of Oxford’s Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine in England now bisted- except he does not subscribe to your corona hysterics.

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        1. bisted

          …anyone with a science background will explain the rigour required for a hypothesis to become a theory…ask Mr Higgs of boson fame who developed the hypothesis 50 years ago…

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          1. E'Matty

            Does that mean that calling someone a “conspiracy theorist” is actually a fantastic compliment then? Jaysus, this could change the whole dynamic here. Double speak at it’s finest. So, next time someone tries to end an argument, where it goes outside their personal worldview, without ever proferring any actual counter arguments, and says “Ah, that’s a conspiracy theory”, the other party should simply reply “Precisely, thank you”? The bloody looney conspiracy hypothesisers are going to lose their **** over this…

          2. SOQ

            Any word on your ‘friend’ who died on the fifth floor of Daisy Hill in Newry bisted?

            Interested in your answer- not in family details obviously- just people like yourself who have died while still typing.

          3. Micko

            Interestingly “Mr Higgs of boson fame” as you put it Bisted has also stated that the pressure that we now put on scientists to publish would have ruined him and never allowed him to make his groundbreaking contributions.

            “It’s difficult to imagine how I would ever have enough peace and quiet in the present sort of climate to do what I did in 1964,” he said. “Today I wouldn’t get an academic job. It’s as simple as that. I don’t think I would be regarded as productive enough.”[

            Just as an interesting aside of course ;-)

          4. bisted

            …ha…it’s not the quiet one’s in my experience but the prolific ones that were the worry…it costs a fair bit of money to have a paper published in Nature or NewScientist…

        2. Oro

          I think the line you’re pursuing over this death of a friend of another commenter mentioned is irresponsible and unethical. Particularly your claims on supposed information you have and the methods to how you obtained it. How you think that this is some kind of ‘gotcha’ opportunity really says a lot about your character.

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    2. E'Matty

      Epstein is a great example as anyone discussing it was labelled a conspiracy theorist despite Esptein’s previous case details being fully in the public domain. People just would not look at the facts. The Lolita Express and Orgy island and the limited list of names confirmed to have been on each were publicly available information. I remember Icke and Johnny Rotten being attacked and pilloried for calling out Saville as a paedophile years before he died too. Do people seriously believe MI5 didn’t know the Royals had welcomed into their circle one of the most prolific child rapists and necrophiliacs in Britain? He was brought into the fold by Lord Mountbatten, himself a prolific rapist of young boys. All of the above, the preserve of “cranks” and “conspiracy theorists” for years.

      Many will only accept such things as reality when the Irish Times or Guardian tell them they are real. Fantasy until then. Factual in reality in both situations. The evidence may never have changed from what they had rejected outright for years. Even then, they forget them almost instantaneously and proceed to act like that information had never being introduced to the world. A convenient amnesia of sorts.

      If one had said even ten years ago that Hollywood has a problem with sexual predators, you’d likely be thought a bit of crackpot. Now, generally accepted. Once, those who claimed there was an issue with paedophilia in the priesthood would be castigated. Again, widely accepted. All of these things were true from the beginning, though many if not most chose not to see them until they could deny them no longer. In every case, established power denied and sought to silence these claims. Yeah, but let’s trust them implicitly again…

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      1. Nigel

        The people who exposed the likes of Epstein, Saville, that Catholic Church were their victims, feminists, journalists, crusading politicians and dedicated prosecuters. There were never ‘conspiracy theories’ about them, there was the silence and protection that gives the powerful impunity. No conspiracy theorist ever helped or forwarded any of those cases by so much as the sliver of an atom. Epstein has been incorporated into the Qanon mythologyin ways that are beyond demented, but it was the good old MSM that brought attention to the leniency of his sentencing and pointed out that the man who brokered that deal was now in the Trump administration.

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        1. E'Matty

          “but it was the good old MSM that brought attention to the leniency of his sentencing and pointed out that the man who brokered that deal was now in the Trump administration.” eh, you do realise Epstein’s conviction for “procuring an underage girl for prostitution and of soliciting a prostitute” (note: a child can’t be a prostitute) was way back in 2008, right? Tell us when the msm started telling us all about Randy Andy’s involvement? When did you first know about the Epstein case from the mainstream media?

          “The people who exposed the likes of Epstein, Saville, that Catholic Church were their victims, feminists, journalists, crusading politicians and dedicated prosecuters.” eh, I think you’ve gotten the wrong memo? Which of these cases involved dedicated prosecutors in bringing it to light, with perhaps the arguable exception of Epstein 30 years or more into his acts and when reports had been made to federal authorities as early as 1996? As for the journalists who reported on any of these stories, almost none in major publications, lads like you called them conspiracy theorists, In fact, where were the journalists, crusading politicians and dedicated prosecutors for the decades these crimes took place? Tell us which mainstream journalist exposed Saville as a paedophile over the many decades he’d been carrying out his acts of perversion and sadism and was during the same years being glad handed by everyone from the Queen and Pope, to Blair and Thatcher? Nah, they celebrated his knighthood instead. MI5 skipped the background check that week. Which crusading politicians brought the Catholic Church to heel?

          Indeed, in every example established power protected the monsters, presented them as upstanding and respectable members of society, certainly welcomed all into the corridors of power. It was the long battle of the victims and those on the fringes who would believe them and join their struggle when everyone else was ignoring their plight, their story, or was following the establishment narrative. It wasn’t established power that fought for these victims. It sought instead to crush and silence them. Yet, you think power is different now, somehow purer. Can you tell us when you think this change in the behaviour of established power occurred? Perhaps you can explain why you have such implicit trust in the institutions of power?

          “there was the silence and protection that gives the powerful impunity” the only correct thing you’ve said.

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          1. Nigel

            ‘Can you tell us when you think this change in the behaviour of established power occurred?’

            Well it wasn’t Pizzagate, I can tell you that much for sure. You think these things didn’t come out because of the blood sweat and tears of people who fought every step of the way to see some sort of justice?

  7. Vanessanelle

    I think the term is lazy
    and narrow minded tbh

    Conspiracy Theorist

    It has definately got to a stage where calling someone that or clustering a group of people as theorists
    ’cause they’re not sharing your view or side of an argument demonstrates that you’re just not bothered with them and what to take the easy way out, or you are incapable of addressing or debating them

    Kinda silly
    although I would definitly be in the former, couldn’t be @rsed
    ‘specially on the more International/ global ones anyway

    local political skulduggery, backstabbing, jobs for the boys, Lynch Tribunal nonsense, coverups
    Ah yeah that would be my cuppa tay alright

    But Kermit the Frog was an NSA experiment / asset that developed into Bill Gates stuff now
    c’mon

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          1. Bodger

            Sorry, SOQ. No idea what is going on. There is nothing from you in the bin. Could you try posting them again?

          2. SOQ

            Oh that is interesting- JUDY MIKOVITS: THE BIOSECURITY on a etc bit chute … is throwing up a duplicate post on your site within a private window.

            Probably just lazy coding by a cycle wearing bare ankled precious who drinks turmeric lattes.

          3. Vanessanelle

            Give over Same Oh

            Jesus, for ages, like a few years ages
            you were at it that I was doing the moderating
            and being non stop about n’all

            Get it together ffs

          4. SOQ

            I am not commenting on the moderation- just questioning if certain sites are banned by the underlying platform in which case broadsheet.ie should move it”s arse somewhere else.

            Your problem is?

          5. Micko

            Sometimes when I post, the comment disappears.

            Then it reappears again a few mins later.

            Think its a quirk.

          6. V #RepealTheSeal

            Wind it in
            And own your output
            All your output

            You’re here on a thread bemoaning people who don’t respect conspiracy theorists

            I simply saw the opportunity to remind you of your own false conspiracies
            And your vicious insistence on same
            Over a number of years

            That btw
            You and your tribe of other Gemma Loving logins have never taken back

            Ye’re manners are on display in Dublin every weekend
            So I know exactly to expect from ye

            Now that I think about it all again
            Ye’re all well met Same’oh

          7. SOQ

            @V- my comments were not personal to anyone and as Bodger has stated- the removal of that link was not done by admin, so something else is going on.

            There appears to be a block on certain types of links which is either coming from the under lying platform or the security software- my guess would be the security software.

            Now normally security software will block porn links for example but increasingly what is happening is that they are black listing alternatives to the big players- or just sites which do not adhere to certain political narratives- in this case a video site similar to YouTube.

            @ Bodger- not sure how you can address this as the security black list is usually stored centrally and it can change daily but there should be a facility for a local white list which will over ride anything on the black. I know it is a pain but this is shadow banning despite them having no right to do so.

            Apologies- no offence was meant to anyone- my comments were of a technical nature.

          8. bisted

            …can’t be porn links…you’ve posted several of these…the last one I clicked on from you was, ironically, advertising masks…not sure they would have been acceptable in your local Spar though…

          9. Vanessanelle

            true for ya Bisto

            although I’ll admit it now
            I preferred the SameOh what was all porno links and b1tchy remarks about women’s appearances
            even my own

          10. bisted

            …do you remember…when the personality would change depending on the day of the week and the time of day…now that he’s got into the echo chamber with Ivor and Carl and Assumpta he’s become very predictable…

  8. Conksi

    its useful to have a specific point for all your grievances and us humans have certain traits, including oversimplifying, believing we can understand everything, making observations fit our beliefs, and trying to distill complex realities into tweets. We all do it. Constantly.
    THis is really interesting view on how, in our modern world, people thoughts/beliefs can be influenced so heavily and so subtly
    Have a good aul listen https://www.nytimes.com/column/rabbit-hole

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  9. Charger Salmons

    I’ve read every one of these conspiracy theory posts and none have answered the key question.
    Who really shot JR ?

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      1. V aka Frilly Keane

        You forgot

        His baby brother
        Bobby
        Was really an alien

        They want you to believe it was only missus
        Having a bad dream

        But she was every bit Digger’s daughter
        And Cliff’s sister
        So a long game of revenge
        And a bitta Texas two-step douzy doe

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    1. benblack

      Remember the ‘I Shot JR’ T-Shirts?

      Dig one out of the drawer there, Charger.

      Matching pink version for the Lady.

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      1. Charger Salmons

        Once dined at an adjacent table to Larry Hagman and his wife at Sheekeys in London and boy could he put the sherbet away.
        We exchanged knowing smiles as both our third bottles arrived at around the same time.
        Seemed a sound feller.

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    2. benblack

      @Charger

      Personally, I find your comments quite humourous.

      As banter goes, it’s pretty top tier.

      So, there you have it.

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      1. Charger Salmons

        It’s only a bit of fun to ease the boredom of lockdown.
        I seem to attract a few people who take it all a tad too seriously.
        I’m like the Pied Piper of pillocks.

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