The ‘Crucial Hour’

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From top: Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò (right) and US President Donald Trump (left); A new letter to Trump from Archbishop Viganò

Last night/this morning.

Following his open letter in June claiming the rona represented a worldwide spiritual battle between the forces of good and evil, Vatican whistleblower Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò has written again to US President Donald Trump.

The former Apostolic Nuncio to the United States, whose allegations about Pope Francis protecting child sex offender Cardinal Theodore McCarrick broke during the Papal visit to Ireland, warns that the Great Reset is a pretext for the “establishment of a New World Order” and stresses  “the epochal importance of the imminent election”.

A vital message?

Or tin foil zucchetto senza senso?

Only YOU can decide.

Previously: “Pope Francis Must Be The First To Set A Good Example And Resign”

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86 thoughts on “The ‘Crucial Hour’

        1. newsjustin

          Papal infallibility is widely misunderstood. It has really only been used like twice since 1854. It only applies to very particular pronouncements concerning doctrine and only valid when the Pope is speaking “ex cathedra” and explicitly says so. Both recent (since 1854 I think was the year) both pronouncements were essentially pre-approved by the world’s bishops beforehand.

          Papal infallibility does not apply to anything and everything a Pope says or does, and certainly doesn’t apply to anything beyond the realm of doctrine.

          As for Vigano, he did some good work exposing McCarrick and those who covered for him. But he seems to have gone to ground in the US and been welcomed into the loving embrace of ‘colourful’ US ‘the-end-is-nigh’ type Trumpist catholics.

          Its fine that he gives Francis a hard time though.

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  1. Nigel

    The print is very small and my eyes are having difficulty with the letter, but if I’m reading it right it represents an utterly fantastic strain of thought that equates mortgage relief and Universal Income and public health measures during a pandemic with plots to subjugate humanity, but the guy who is opnely declaring that he has packed a court with partisan judges in order to declare the election for him, while working overtime to supress voting, is either just a distraction or, in this case, the last hope for freedom and good. Public health measures and social safety nets and debt forgiveness for poor people: bad. Openly undermining the most powerful democracy in the world: good. The irony of Trump benefiting from massive debt forgiveness for incredibly shady reasons just gets lost in the mix.

    Also, that’s a lot of dog-whistling for a guy in a dog-collar.

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    1. Charger Salmons

      Nigel is shocked to discover there is someone else in the world with even more crackpot conspiracy theories than himself …

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        1. Pat Mustard

          No, not about Russia. 4 years of nonsense evidence free conspiracies ending in the Mueller dud is not Russian. Its 100% DNC, parroted feverishly by you.

          Even when I’m not online, I’m clobbering you.

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          1. E'Matty

            ah Jaysus, did Nige fall for the RussiaGate nonsense? Why am I not surprised? RussiaGate is like a test of a persons ability to discern fact from narrative. Poor auld Nige clearly fell for narrative and claims from “voices of authority”. No evidence whatsoever was required to convince people like him of that ridiculous conspiracy theory. It was literally a conspiracy theory unsupported by even a single piece of objectively verifiable evidence.

          2. E'Matty

            @ NIge – bizarre for not believing in a conspiracy theory unsupported by a single piece of objetcively verifiable evidence? No, I think that is called being rational and logical actually.

          3. Nigel

            What on earth is it that you think this conspiracy theory is? Anyone would think it was a bizarre plot to take over the world using vaccines and 5G rather than a bunch of grubby political chicanery coupled with a thoroughly well protected criminal in a position of power and privilege.

          4. Pat Mustard

            “What on earth is it you think this conspiracy theory is..”

            The ridiculous evidence free tinfoil saturated conspiracy theory that Trump is a Russian asset..

          5. E'Matty

            @ NIge – the whole RussiaGate narrative, or conspiracy theory, is based on the claim the Russian State conspired to interfere in the US election to help Trump get elected. There is not one single piece of evidence of Russian State interference in the 2016 US election.

          6. E'Matty

            @ Nige – “You think the Mueller report presented no evidence for it’s conclusions”. Oh yes, I am saying exactly that. Please provide the page and paragraph from the report which details the evidence underpinning the claim of Russian hacking or indeed, any Russian State interference in the US election? No such evidence has ever been provided. You’ve been believing a completely fabricated narrative and all they had to do was get corrupt voices of authority to claim such Russian State interference in the US election. They didn’t even have to provide any evidence to convince you. You simply believed because they made the claim. See what I mean about sheep like behaviour?

          7. Nigel

            If there’s any specific issues with the Report you’d like to draw attention to, feel free. We went through the whole thing here about how it ‘completely exonerated Trump’ versus what it actually said back when it came out. You’ve got your narrative to sustain, I suppose, though why people like you and Mustard defend someone so obviously crooked as Trump is beyond me. Bizarre.

          8. E'Matty

            @ NIgel – “If there’s any specific issues with the Report you’d like to draw attention to, feel free.” Yes, the claim that Russia interfered in the US election, which you nutcases all bought for years, which the Report provides zero evidence for despite repeating the claim. “We went through the whole thing here about how it ‘completely exonerated Trump’ versus what it actually said back when it came out.” Once again we see you parroting an msm narrative. Not to defend Trump but Mueller had no role “exonerating Trump”. Where did you get this ridiculous idea that he did? Straight from the msm talking points, that’s where. Trump is innocent until proven guilty. Not guilty until exonerated as you have been convinced to believe. The media sold you that BS when the Report was released and revealed nothing and you clearly swallowed it whole.

            Personally, my only interest in the Mueller Report was the focus on Russian interference and hacking in the election, claims of which all of our msm bombarded us with continually for three years solid despite people like myself repeatedly stating that these claims were unsupported by any actual evidence and were being pushed by vested interests. Millions believed this crackpot fabricated narrative being pumped out by US intel agencies, DNC mouthpieces and the mainstream media worldwide. The Report repeats that claim but once again provides not one shred of evidence to support it. Yet, people like you don’t even notice this fact and may even deny it so strong is your delusion.

            If I go around claiming that say, you’re a paedophile, it would be incumbent on me to provide some actual evidence of this. You though seem to believe that some authority figure must exonerate you before we can stop calling you a paedophile. Do you see how utterly ridiculous your comment and the position you were conditioned into adopting is?

            “I suppose, though why people like you and Mustard defend someone so obviously crooked as Trump is beyond me” Yes, it is beyond you clearly as nowhere have I defended Trump. That’s another mistake you herd animals make. You think the world is binary. If I questioned the RussiaGate narrative based on objective reality i.e there is no evidence, sheep like you automatically think “Trump supporter”. People like you allowed the US establishment to ramp up tensions with the other major global nuclear superpower, all because you were upset over your candidate losing the election. It’s actually quite disgusting how people like were willing to further endanger the entire world in your hissy fit over Trump’s election.

          9. Nigel

            The claim that the report exonerted Trump came from William Barr, was repeated by the MSM and presented here on Broadsheet uncritically, in fact triumphantly, a week before the report was released. When the report was released it quickly proved to do the opposite of exonerating Trump. We had a whole comment thread about it where various commenters claimed Trump was exonerated and I suggested he wasn’t, using the actual report. It was fun.

            (Weird how you have the MSM ‘parroting’ the claim that Russia interfered and Trump colluded AND ‘parroting’ the claim by Barr that the report exonerated him. Almost as if the MSM was just… reporting the news)

            The Report showed multiple instances of Russian efforts to interfere in the 2016 election in Trump’s favour. It showed the Trump campaign receptive to co-ordinating with Russia in the interference.

            You think that ‘Russiagate’ is some sort of DNC plot and that the MSM is being unfair in treating the Hunter Biden laptop as the toxic disinformation effort it obviously is – you’re a Trump defender.

          10. Pat Mustard

            “The claim that the report exonerted Trump came from William Barr”

            No it didn’t. The report stated trump wasn’t exonerated, which isn’t a legal status, it cleared him of collusion, that means he’s exonerated.

            “When the report was released it quickly proved to do the opposite of exonerating Trump”

            How did it do this? His popularity numbers spiked, that’s all that happened.

            “We had a whole comment thread about it where various commenters claimed Trump was exonerated and I suggested he wasn’t, using the actual report. It was fun.”

            It was fun aright, asking you where not exonerated appears as a legal status in any code of law, that was a laugh riot.

            “The Report showed multiple instances of Russian efforts to interfere in the 2016 election in Trump’s favour. It showed the Trump campaign receptive to co-ordinating with Russia in the interference.”

            OK, so you’ll have no problem telling me how this interference took place, the mechanism and the people who did it?

          11. E'Matty

            @ Nigel – oh dear Jesus, you haven’t a clue.

            Firstly, you said the Report did not exonerate Trump. It was never supposed to. It had no role in doing so. It also failed to prove any actual interference, or collusion with the Russian State. Nobody here mentioned Bill Barr until you did.

            “You think that ‘Russiagate’ is some sort of DNC plot and that the MSM is being unfair in treating the Hunter Biden laptop as the toxic disinformation effort it obviously is – you’re a Trump defender.” The RussiaGate false narrative was propagated by the DNC and US intel agencies and then promoted by the msm. It was a fabricated narrative to undermine the Trump. It was literally a disinformation campaign that you supported.

            In respect of the Hunter laptop, even the Biden campaign is not claiming the emails are not authentic. As Greenwald stated clearly, he was prevented by his editors from printing a story until he would agree to remove all mentions critical of Biden. Yet, this clear attempt to suppress any media discussion and publication of the Biden email story is clearly against all journalistic standards in the days preceding an election. It is your bias that has you looking at every event and issue through the filter of BS the msm feed you. 1. RussiaGate was a frabricated narrative promoted by the DNC, Intel agencies and msm. This is a fact supported by copious evidence. There is no evidence to support the narratvie you espouse 2. The Hunter Biden emails are real and therefore discussion on their contents is legitimate. To ignore such emails shows your clear brainwashed bias.

          12. Nigel

            Mustard: William Barr said the report exonerated Trump. The report showed tons of collusion, but collusion isn’t a crime. We have since learned, of course, that the investigation was tightly constrained by Barr, appointed by the subject of the investigation, and by the subject of the investigation himself. Mueller was not allowed to bring or recommend criminal charges against Trump, by Trump and Barr.

            The report wasn’t a legal proceeding, so of course ‘not exonerated’ is not a legal status in that context. Then again ‘exonerated’ isn’t a legal status in the context of a report, either, though you seem to think it has something to do with popularity? The report did not exonerate Trump. It implicated him and his family heavily.

            You shouldn’t have a problem doing it either, you’ve read the report.

          13. Pat Mustard

            “William Barr said the report exonerated Trump. The report showed tons of collusion, but collusion isn’t a crime.”

            So, Barr didn’t write the report, Mueller did. And what’s all this collusion, you say there’s “tons” of it, care to specify what this collusion is exactly?

            “We have since learned, of course, that the investigation was tightly constrained by Barr, appointed by the subject of the investigation, and by the subject of the investigation himself”

            Whacky conspiracy theory which I’m pretty sure you’ve no evidence for as per usual.

            “Mueller was not allowed to bring or recommend criminal charges against Trump, by Trump and Barr.”

            Once again not true. Mueller had a full team and all resources to use. He found nothing.

            “The report wasn’t a legal proceeding, so of course ‘not exonerated’ is not a legal status in that context. Then again ‘exonerated’ isn’t a legal status in the context of a report”

            Precisely what I was saying, therefore it’s either innocent or guilty, exonerated shouldn’t be anywhere near it wrt conclusion.

            “though you seem to think it has something to do with popularity?”

            No Nigel, I mentioned popularity in that his numbers spiked after the report was issued, as is normal in any failed impeachment process.

            “The report did not exonerate Trump. It implicated him and his family heavily.”

            No it found him innocent, nobody cares about exonoration. And how were he and his family heavily implicated?

            “You shouldn’t have a problem doing it either, you’ve read the report.”

            Indeed, I have, a gigantic dud with no evidence of interference or collusion whatsoever.. Hence the questions to you, the proud Russia-gater..

          14. Nigel

            Bill Barr claimed the report exonerated Trump a week before it was released, that is what I was referring to in my initial use of ‘exonerated.’ I apologise if I was unclear, i did not mean to cause you so much confusion.

            I didn’t and do not ‘support’ Russiagate. I’m just interested in seeing what comes up and what comes out, and enthralled by people like you and Mustard throwing themselves in front of it to protect Trump. The idea of the DNC and intel agencies collaborating to fabricate this is… well, it would require quite a lot of proof. The level of enslavement of the MSM to go along with it is pure Qanon-level fantasy of evil liberal media bias on drugs.

            Discussion of the Hunter Biden laptop as a blatant Bannon/Giulianin disinformation campaign is certainly legitimate.

          15. Pat Mustard

            “I didn’t and do not ‘support’ Russiagate.”

            Complete horse. You’ve pumped it feverishly and still do.

            You’re mocking of the Biden laptop episode whilst pumping collusion and interference BS is hysterical.

          16. Nigel

            Yes, that intervention by Bill Barr was very inappropriate, yet you and Bodger were all to happy to crow about it. Until the report came out and showed it to be a crock. Nor did the report find him to be guilty or innocent of anything, nor was it an impeachment process, and if you think after reading the report that there were no accounts of interference and collusion, then you are lying, because they were there in black and white. Itt’s still amazing that someone of Trump’s obvious corruption can get people high and low to blatantly lie on his behalf like this.

    2. E'Matty

      @ Nige – I hear this time and again from people who don’t ever do any research for themselves, “Why would the elites exaggerate this crisis? Why would national polticians be willing to oversee the deliberate destruction of their national economy?” and here you say “an utterly fantastic strain of thought that equates mortgage relief and Universal Income and public health measures during a pandemic with plots to subjugate humanity”. There is very little depth to your thinking. For starters, why is it, do you think, that the most powerful financial and political interests in the world have been promoting this UBI idea for the last few years? Concern over those who will be economically useless in the transition to a digital economy? Worried about the socioconomic conditions of the general populace? Or, perhaps this UBI provides a means to first placate the public during this transition period. When the expected unemployment levels come to fruition, if people have this guaranteed income, they are less likely to revolt when their livelihoods, pensions, property value etc evaporate before their eyes. Once they are on the UBI, they are entirely dependant on the State which can impose any kind of rules they wish for continued payment of UBI. You don’t want your baby vaccinated with this new rushed to market vaccine, ok, no UBI. You’re on UBI? Right, no foreign travel for you. You’re on UBI? No smoking or drinking for you. The “tax payer isn’t supporting you to smoke and drink”. Fatty foods and sugar, no, not allowed if you want us to pay for you. Engaged in civil disobedience against a government policy, no UBI for you. “You don’t feed the hand that feeds you”. A UBI society is a subjagated society.

      After 40 years of neoliberalism and the Washington Consensus, private capital now controls far more of the operations of State than before. Under the Great Reset, this “Public-Private Partnership” model will expand enormously. You’ll be hearing a lot about “stakeholder capitalism” too in the coming years. We hear a lot of people throw the word fascist or fascism around, mostly applied to anything resembling nationalism, completely ignoring the fact that most freedom movements of the last century or two were invariably nationalist in nature. Fascism as an ideology is hard to define, and isn’t this cartoon version so many believe in today. Originally, it referred to a totalitarian political movement linked with corporatism in Italy from 1922 to 1943 under the leadership of Mussolini. Mussolini himself described it as “Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power”.

      This Archbishop is calling out this merger of State and Corporate Power on a global level, which is taking place, called the Great Reset. We are witnessing the creation of a global supranational (above nation States) governance structure involving a merger of the power of all nation states with corporate and financial power. When many of the globe’s corporate titans have annual turnovers in excess of entire nations’ GDP, it doesn’t take a genius to figure out how the power dynamic might operate under such a system. And we haven’t even started to discuss the Orwellian surveillance State that has grown around us these past couple of decades, so pervasive we now laugh if someone indicates a desire to get away from it. Even now, as we enter this new era, most cannot see the wood for the trees. As most living today have only ever known the world under the Bretton-Woods Order, they simply cannot imagine living in any other kind of world, or that what they know as the world can disappear and be replaced by something altogether different in every way. Tell us Nige, are you like most of the rest of the population still waiting for things to back to normal after this? I wonder how long it will take before it dawns on you all that the world we experienced, the way of life we lived, in 2019, is gone forever, never to return…

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      1. Nigel

        Wow. That is a lot. I’m still thinking the guy openly signalling his intentions to steal the election and install minority right wing rule in the most powerful and prosperous democracy on the planet is the real threat, not masks and mortgage relief.

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        1. E'Matty

          Of course you are! Still obsessing over the theatre of politics and the false dichtomy of Left and Right. I wonder when will people like yourself realise politicians come and go, but the truly rich and powerful remain. Politicians are subservient to that continuous power. Do you think the Great Reset will not happen if either is elected? In fact, do you think any election on earth at the moment will prevent this new global Order being established? But yeah, Orange man bad is all you can see…

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          1. Nigel

            Ah yes, you are far removed from the messy business of real people whose lives will be affected by ‘theatre’ and ‘false dichotomies.’ Funny how you and the bad orange man basically seem to agree that people shouldn’t bother voting.

          2. Pat Mustard

            Not as funny as you parroting DNC losers with a contrived evidence free conspiracy theory for 4 straight years.

      2. Formerly known as @ireland.com

        TL;DR – I don’t have to read what E’Matty writes to know that Nigel is right. Just sayin’.

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  2. Nigel

    Hang on – the Great Reset looks like a capitalist plot to, er, keep capitalism going even as it becomes increasingly unsustainable and very obviously destructive and utterly indefensible – sort of corporate greenwashing while also wearing a facemask to keep the brands non-threatening. Capitalists gonna capitalist. Seems like someone who hates universal income and mortgage relief would be all over that. I suppose because it’s a WORLD Economic Forum using a phrase that can so easily be co-opted as sinister the anti-globalist conspiracy types just can’t resist the low-hanging fruit. And famously anti-international capitalist who opposes debt relief Donald Trump is going to save them from it.

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    1. E'Matty

      “Hang on – the Great Reset looks like a capitalist plot to, er, keep capitalism going” or, to place financial interests in a position of absolute global control unrestrained by democracy. Here’s the best part about the new Order. Once in place, it will be unassailable into perpetuity. How does one (or many) overthrow or even hold to account a system that understands you better than you know yourself, which hears and sees everything you do, what you say, even what you feel, when you feel it and what makes you feel that way? When you are monitored every second of every day and there is nowhere you can go to escape that all pervasive power, how do you resist? There is a long history of the rich and powerful one can refer to in assessing how such people might behave with the unbridled power we seem determind to hand over to them.

      I’ve posted these two quotes before but they are still worthy of repetition.
      “Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men, even when they exercise influence and not authority; still more when you superadd the tendency of the certainty of corruption by authority.” ― Lord Acton

      “The technotronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values. Soon it will be possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen and maintain up-to-date complete files containing even the most personal information about the citizen. These files will be subject to instantaneous retrieval by the authorities. ”
      ― Zbigniew Brzezinski, Between Two Ages: America’s Role in the Technetronic Era

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      1. Nigel

        Well with Brexit they’ve got the UK and with Trump they might have the US. Dangerous times indeed. Just goes to show how important it is to vote.

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          1. Nigel

            Given the extraordinary efforts put in by Republicans to stop them, disenfranchise them and neuter their vote it’s hardly surprising.

          2. bisted

            …I really hope Biden wins…for Nigels sake…he took crooked Hillary getting beaten really bad…not sure he’ll ever get over it but Biden winning might help…

          3. Nigel

            Uranium and Banghazi – the old reliable right-wing ratfecking jobs. How come the Hunter Biden laptop was such a damp squib? More focused on stopping people from voting or completely detroying US democracy, I suppose.

          4. E'Matty

            @ Nige – “How come the Hunter Biden laptop was such a damp squib?” You should read Glen Greenwalds resignation letter and watch his interview with Tucker Carlson. He sets out clearly why people like you believe that story to be a “damp squib”. It’s funny how a person like you had such complete faith in the msm that you swallowed their RussiaGate psyop. Now you’re enthusiastic about their clearly partisan efforts and total abandonment of any journalistic principles in their coverage of Biden. The media tells you what to think. You appear to have almost no ability to discern fact from fiction yourself.

          5. Nigel

            Glenn Greenwald’s report so full of ‘supposedlys’ and ‘purportedlys’ and Tucker Carlson’s evidence that got lost in the mail then found then…. vanished? The fact of the matter is I’m shocked that so many are exercising journalistic principles and treating the laptop story for the obviously dirty tricks package it is. Maybe there’s hope for medi yet.

          6. Pat Mustard

            “exercising journalistic principles”

            “obviously dirty tricks package”

            This is why I clobber you.

            Russia gate and its little sister Ukraine gate.

            Two nonsense cul de sac charades pumped feverishly by the DNC and slavishly parroted by you. Both fall squarely under the pretences you hilariously describe above.

          7. Nigel

            When will this clobbering begin? Will you need three or four more Hunter Biden laptops before you feel ready?

          8. Pat Mustard

            “Pat Mustard will be along in a minute to say something about Russia”

            You inserted me into this. Clearly I’m in your head.

      1. E'Matty

        “a merger of capitalism and socialism is needed to bring about social justice…” I’d say they have a right laugh coming up with this stuff. Give the oligarch class control over your State and only good things will happen, lots of justice and it’s the social kind, so even better. Who wouldn’t want this? I must say, their double speak is of a supreme quality.

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  3. Gavin

    You could read anything into that and use it to embolden any crackpot cause, clearly, this guy is out of his tiny little mind. Another reason why religion should be removed from anything to do with politics or decisions which affect society and relegated to the same importance as what socks you decide to put on in the morning.

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  4. bisted

    …wait…isn’t this the thing that E’mattie was preaching last week…wow…now he has Archbishop Vigano and god on his side…what could possibly go wrong…

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  5. f_lawless

    An extraordinary letter. It certainly feels like we’re already on the cusp of a new cataclysmic period for humanity. Although looking to Trump as any kind of leader in the resistance seems fairly hopeless even if he were to remain in power, These sociopathic capitalist elites are really going for broke to aggressively implement their plans, using the pandemic as a catalyst. Increased public awareness and the mobilisation of a civil rights movement on a global scale is what’s needed.

    I think this piece gives a good overview of the vision behind “The Great Reset” and the plans for a new “global governance” infrastructure to underpin the coming “fourth industrial revolution”. It focuses on Klaus Schwab, executive chairman of the World Economic Forum, directly quoting from his his recent books:

    https://winteroak.org.uk/2020/10/05/klaus-schwab-and-his-great-fascist-reset/

    Quote:

    ‘..The technologies of the 4IR, rolled out via 5G, pose unprecedented threats to our freedom, as Schwab concedes: “The tools of the fourth industrial revolution enable new forms of surveillance and other means of control that run counter to healthy, open societies”.

    But this does not stop him presenting them in a positive light, as when he declares that “public crime is likely to decrease due to the convergence of sensors, cameras, AI and facial recognition software’..

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    1. Nigel

      Yes they’re manoeuvering themselves to forestall action on climate change that might threaten capitalist consumer culture.

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      1. E'Matty

        @ NIge – shows how much you know. The Green Agenda will provide a new demand surge across every part of the global economy and ensure the greatest financial windfall ever for the largest corporations and financial institutions. These interests intend on feeding on the trillions national governments worldwide will now be spending to transform their societies as part of the Green, Sustainable Agenda, all funded by the tax payer who will be forced to accept ever greater costs of living, but it’s all to “save the world” so you have no choice. Outside of the massive State spending programmes they will gorge on, there will obviously be huge profits to be made providing for every private consumer’s with “green” purchases thereby providing a nice little justification for heightened pricing premium on products and services by the corporates.

        In 2013 after years of careful preparation, a Swedish real estate company, Vasakronan, issued the first corporate “Green Bond.” They were followed by others including Apple, SNCF and the major French bank Credit Agricole. In November 2013 Elon Musk’s problem-riddled Tesla Energy issued the first solar asset-backed security. Today according to something called the Climate Bonds Initiative, more than $500 billion in such Green Bonds are outstanding. The creators of the bond idea state their aim is to win over a major share of the $45 trillion of assets under management globally which have made nominal commitment to invest in “climate friendly” projects.

        Bonnie Prince Charles, future UK Monarch, along with the Bank of England and City of London finance have promoted “green financial instruments,” led by Green Bonds, to redirect pension plans and mutual funds towards green projects.

        The links between the world’s largest financial groups, central banks and global corporations to the current push for a radical climate strategy to abandon the fossil fuel economy in favor of a vague, unexplained Green economy, it seems, is less about genuine concern to make our planet a clean and healthy environment to live. Rather it is an agenda, intimately tied to the UN Agenda 2030 for “sustainable” economy, and to developing literally trillions of dollars in new wealth for the global banks and financial giants who constitute the real powers that be.

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        1. Nigel

          Wow, when you put it like that I guess we’d beter not do anything about climate change at all! That’ll teach them rich folks!

          (Lol if they were that keen on a Green Economy it’d have happened by now – instead they’re resisiting with every fibre of their being.)

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          1. E'Matty

            Wrong. Big business, and in particular Big Oil, have supported the global climate change agenda from day one. You think you’re battling these interests, you’re not. It’s their agenda. Indeed, big oil interests have been the primary drivers of the creation of the global climate change movement. Tell us who founded the WWF? Who established the UNEP which set up the IPCC? Who drafted the terms of reference for the IPCC reports? Who was responsible for the global conferences (Stockholm, Rio, Paris) that for the first time ever brought national governments together to discuss climate? Who is behind Extinction Rebellion? Big Oil interests all the way. Incidentally, Big Pharma originated from the petro chemical industry so you’ll find the same interests there too. Global problems require global solutions they keep saying. People like you are handing them absolute control to provide these “Global solutions” whether it’s their Covid pandemic narrative, their climate change narrative, the terror narrative or whatever narrative they use to progress their agenda. You should seriously stop taking things at face value and try adopt more of a “follow the money” type approach to such topics.

          2. Nigel

            Big Oil have spent millions for decades promoting climate change denialism. Next you’ll be telling me that Big Automobile are behind the push for more cycling infrastructure in cities.

          3. E'Matty

            @ NIgel – “Big Oil have spent millions for decades promoting climate change denialism.” Except, the BIg Oil interests were the ones creating and nurturing the entire global climate change movement. Such a seeeming contradiction cannot be squared by your conditioned mind so you just ignore it. Power is so much more sophisticated than people like you seem capable of comprehending.

          4. E'Matty

            @ NIgel – Maurice Strong was the single most significant public figure in the creation of the global climate change movement. Strong commissioned the Report ‘Only One Earth: The Care and Maintenance of a Small Planet’ and then established the Stockholm Conference, the first time numerous countries were brought together to discuss the global environment. He then established the UNEP and was its first executive director. Strong was one of the Commissioners of the World Commission on Environment and Development. He was appointed Secretary General of the UN Conference on Environment and Development known as the Earth Summit in Rio. Strong drafted the Terms of Reference for the IPCC, whose studies are being relied upon to support the claims of human carbon emissions driven global climate change. He was a Co Founder of the 1001 Club, a group of elite bankers and corporatists (major polluters), which is the piggy bank of the World Wildlife Fund.

            Strong, an associate of David Rockefellar (Rockefellars of Standard Oil fame) since his early twenties, was involved in Dome Petroleum, Ajax Petroleum, Norcen Resources, AZL Resources, Ontario Hydro, and of course he headed up Petro-Canada at the request of Pierre Trudeau, father of Justin.

            Strong, a self described “socialist in ideology, a capitalist in methodology”, came to see that the key to his vision was “environmentalism”, the one cause the UN could harness to make itself a truly powerful world government.

            “Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the
            industrialized civilizations collapse?
            Isn’t it our responsiblity to bring that about?”
            – Maurice Strong

          5. E'Matty

            Moving beyond Strong we see the Dutch Royals and Prince Bernard in particular. Prince Bernard was a member of Deutsche Studentenschaft, a National Socialist student fraternity, as well as the Nazi NSDAP and its paramilitary wing, the Sturmabteilung until 1934. A founder of the Bilderberg Meeting, he was also co founder and President of the World Wildlife Fund, working with Julian Huxley (brother of Aldous of Brave New World fame). The Dutch Royal Family are major shareholders in global giant Royal Dutch Shell to this day.

          6. Nigel

            Yeah that’s not ‘Big Oil,’ that’s not the entire, or even very much of, the global climate change movement, and that doesn’t actually invalidate the science of climate change and the need for action on climate change.

    2. Formerly known as @ireland.com

      It might be the Great Reset or it might be a global pandemic. Let me think about that for 2 seconds………..I’ll stick with the global pandemic. that is much easier to believe than some nutty conspiracy.

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