From left: Chief Medical Officer, Department of Health Dr Tony Holohan, Chair of the NPHET Irish Epidemiological Modelling Advisory Group Professor Philip Nolan and Dr Ronan Glynn at the Department of Health press briefing last night
Last night.
Professor Philip Nolan – chair of the Irish Epidemiological Modelling Advisory Group – told the briefing that at no time since the start of the pandemic in March had it exceeded 1.4 or 1.6 (the R rate)…
Prof Nolan said this was certainly, “at least in part explained by the very high levels of socialisation and social contact” in the last weeks of December
Curbs on sale of alcohol next in line as Holohan says it fuels spread (Independent.ie)
Meanwhile, curbs on the sale of alcohol by forcing off-licences to cut their opening hours may be the next step in the fight against the Covid-19 crisis after chief medical officer Dr Tony Holohan warned it is helping to fuel the spread of the virus.
Hic.
Curbs on alcohol sales incoming?
Should have happened months ago.
Absolutely totally agree. I’m a bit of a chancer but seeing antics around Grafton St and the city centre before Xmas you could see this coming. Sick of publicans crying as well. So many are responsible, I’ve managed some places but so many of them are also charlatans.
I’d reckon chances of the virus spreading from these outdoor meet up are very low.
After many of the BLM marches, there wasn’t a notable increase in cases.
It’s the indoor house parties and get togethers that are the problem.
Many? There was one several months ago.
nonsense.
forcing everyone to buy their alcoholic drinks in a shorter timeframe will just increase contacts in the booze aisles of the supermarkets and off licences
restructwd trade hours will not achieve less socialisation
don’t be running in here with logic
Agreed, need to put a curb on sales of bread and milk also, due to congregation in shops etc, fp it mobile phones as well. Cut the networks off that way Gen Z’s wont have a clue how to meet up. Cut it all off lads. Great work. And thanks a mill for an unreal vaccine roll out. The end is in sight. Plumbs.
Funny but can’t see the desperate for a drink shower gathering in Sth William St drinking milk.
Ah yes, the demon drink, our second biggest disease after gambling.
I don’t think they are desperate for a drink, more desperate to see other humans.
A year now, since I’ve been out for a meal, or even a drink.
The pleasure of a nice night out. Rare enough for us, what with kids and that, but god you do miss it when it’s not an option.
I love a mosey on my own, I love having a partner don’t get me wrong but I really enjoy the solitary glass or just chatting to strangers maybe or dinner on my own, somewhere nice but indulgent,
splash out on a nice meal no concessions made, maybe do a bit of people watching
it’s a real blow to your independence not being off for a dander no questions asked no answers given :)
Ah, but this is because you’re a natural flirt!
Damn, I meant to go with “incorrigible” there. Great word.
I’ll take both :)
+1
I discovered the rare treat that is dining alone a few years ago, and it’s a very nice experience. Himself enjoys a quiet pint with his paper the odd time too.
There’s plenty of humans to be had other than outside a pub in the cold of night/day.
where ?
I’m thinking more of people living in apartments in town, maybe alone,
it’s not my idea of a good time, you’d have to be pretty desperate of have thought
If you can meet someone in town for a pint outside a pub; you can meet them in town for a walk.
The pint is optional.
Exactly. It’s all about the demon drink and our magnificent culture.
What of you don’t know many people ?
When I came back first I found ally friends busy with kids etc,
I relied on a mooch around to have a natter,
I’m just playing devils advocate here, isn’t it nicer to have a drink at home in front of the fire if it’s really the drink you’re after
are the pubs providing outside gas burners ?
I’m going with the “Ye First lads” approach here
like, why don’t ye get it together First
Nursing Homes, Testing, Contract Tracing, PPE & ICU Equipment Supplies, Hospital Management, Vaccination Roll out, Air & Sea Arrivals & Departures, PUP, Childcare, Schools, Leaving Cert Exams, whatever yere having yerselves
Then tell the rest of us where and when and how we should take a drink
prevention is better than cure.
kids at home for a month and parents can’t have a drink?
what could possibly go wrong?
management
treatment
and all the other stuff
is better than waiting for the cure
a year now C!an
and there still isn’t anything beyond lockdown to manage this virus
But all these people got full pay, plus plus plus
feck why didn’t I incorporate and present a tender to supply PPE
If you look at Ireland and compare to the rest of Europe, we are doing better than most – especially in the last 6 months.
Why are you so against people getting paid for their work?
I’m not against anyone getting paid
I have a problem with incompetence and unaccountability
And frankly, this comparing Ireland’s performance to other countries is pathetic, pointless and very shabby PR C!an
Its insulting. And worthy of an apology tbh
This Government and NPHET and the HSE and all the others connected parties responsible for Governance, Pandemic Management and getting the Irish through this, and out the other side are answerable and accountable to us here
Us. Here. Ireland. hows that for a three word tag
Not in the other Countries you are measuring our shower against
Us. Here. Ireland.
Whether you like it or not
And they have made a hames of it
From day one
Not one person engaged in the Pandemic Management from Governement, Acting Government or Dept this and thats as actually either delivered as promised, or even reached expectation.
They have all fallen short.
A year on
the HSE have gotten worse, as if that were possible, worse
So, since you’re in the humour to weewee me off,
Lets have yere spins again about the Army Track n Trace teams
the photocalls out in City West
HSE CEO with Cargo Planes
Fridges
Bruton in the Kitchen, Leo with his top off
the 100s and thousands Healthcare pros coming back to work / volunteer
The spins through the testing centres
g’wan
I’m doing up that Government Ethics and Probity etc from a few years ago for 2021
I need the motivation
Worth adding that if – as I have always suspected, the then Taoiseach, Leo Varadkar was aware of this disaster coming down the line last January when he fell over himself getting to the Aras to call a General Election
And we do know the virus was well established here then
Then Leo needs to answer for it
moan, moan, moan.
all you can do is point the finger.
typical Irish begrudgary. You can only see the bad.
And then regurgitate the conspiracy theory that Leo somehow knew a global pandemic was coming (the first death was reported on 11 Jan) so he called an election (on the 14 Jan). And yet he still ended up in government.
As conspiracy theories go it makes less sense than the ones SOQ and f_lawless and Bodger come up with. (and that is saying a lot)
Coming from you C!an
I’m going to take the entire contents of that post as both a compliment
And an endorsement
Ta. V
Exactly what conspiracy theories do I come up with Cian? Please outline. Trying to paint everyone who has any issues with this criminality as being a conspiracy theorist is at best disingenuous.
We are in the middle of a lockdown social experiment never tried before, with no evidence that in the medium or long term it actually works, based on a PCR test which has been proven to be not fit for purpose, with experimental vaccines not approved by the FDA, for a public whom if under 70 with no underlying conditions are of no or little risk from serious CoVid-19 symptoms in the first place.
Nothing conspiratorial there- just facts.
?
vaccine causing bell’s palsy; PCR test not working; Sweden being a country to emulate; the fact that there simply cannot be a second wave of Covid; it’s just a flu; only kills the old and sick; there are no excess deaths; it’s just a flu; lockdowns don’t work; the great reset, Sweden’s second wave peaked in November; it’s not “Covid” it’s SARS-CoVid-19… practically every weird theory except if being causes by 5G and Bill Gates (unless you did say that and i missed it)
Don’t forget all the voter fraud stuff Cian. All that guff about the dominion machines being set to change votes, connected to the internet etc.
NO.
When did I say that the post vaccine DNA flesh would be tenderer to aliens?
…not to mention…herd immunity…hocuspocusquinine…only Bodger could dream up a bizzare character like this…
Ah here- you can do better than that sort of mudslinging nonsense- comms is your game after all.
Will you- with a low probability of developing serious CoVid-19 symptoms- be willing to risk being pumped with something which may encourage one or more autoimmune diseases?
Given that old skool Oxford is the primary within NI- we will find out which is which I expect.
I shall watch German gay..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBHkIWAJitg
Nanny statism & NPHET trying to enforce an anti-alcohol agenda despite no real evidence that alcohol or inebriation is responsible for the spread.
I checked the wine cellar last night.
Enough booze to keep me going till Autumn.
Fail to prepare etc
Not quite sure why they’re thinking of this now – I order a lot of my stuff online anyway so apart from the bushing crowd what’s the point ?
“I checked under the stairs last night. Enough Blue Nun and Santa Rita to keep me going until the end of the month”
Fixed that for ya.
Nothing wrong with a nice glass of Santa Rita. They do a lovely merlot.
Indeed. Lots of plummy notes and a hint of spice. Tommy has a bucket load of little 187.5ml bottles stored in the hot press.
Maybe they shouldnt have told everyone back in October to lockdown for 6 weeks and then they go mental at christmass.
This this and all of this.
THe radio ads saying ‘we all need to do this’ has worn too thin.
We should have kept doing what we were doing.
Harris is trying to deflect the stupid decisions to reopen so much so early in Dec.
We went from one of the best in Europe to one of the worst in a couple of weeks.
Are you suggesting that the current lockdown should be in place until we get 85% of the population vaccinated?
We should never have been opened up the way we did. We would not be such a state if the government didn’t actively promote people going mental before Xmas, wtf did they think people would do when being told “be good for a weeks and you can have a nice December”. The shops in town ended up jam packed.
Agreed.
Blaming this on alcohol is a cop-out.
This debate would be constructive if folk stopped sharing their hero stories about staying away from pints for the last 10 months. It’s a far bigger issue.
NPHET and the government literally spent all of the end of November and the start of December telling people not to go mad once level 3 was eased..
look at the headlines from 1-December:
https://www.broadsheet.ie/2020/11/30/tuesdays-papers-61/
Agree. They should have left us at level 3 rather than creating the pent-up desire for shenanigans.
Oh wait for the queues outside the offo’s or supermarkets at *6PM just before curfew kicks in on day 1 of this pointless ploppadoo. A nice vid spreadder situation there. I know what we’ll do.. put a ban on queues.
Ah bless
Alcohol is the real virus!!!!!1one