Charger’s Vax Fact™ # 31
The UK has administered 5,437,284 Covid-19 vaccine doses.
Or to put it another way, in less than a month the UK has vaccinated the equivalent of the entire population of Ireland.
Ireland, which has only administered 120,000 vaccines, doesn’t expect to achieve that target for another eight months.
Uncomfortable as it may be for a nation which forever judges itself against the yardstick of the UK at what point do the media and politicians demand to know why the EU has allowed this to happen.
Asking for the relatives of Irish people who will die as result of the EU’s utter incompetence.
Joe F
If the UK is doing such a good job clown man, would you like to comment on the fact that it is 8th highest out of 221 countries for deaths per million from the virus? And if you are looking at the last week alone, they are HIGHEST out of 221 listed countries.
That is approximately 2 1/2 times the rate in Ireland.
Great job Bozo and friends.
Marvelous.
benblack
Effing hell, you really are the Pied Piper, Charger!
scottser
And you really are a sycophant.
benblack
I do like elephants, but not that much.
Does that answer your question?
scottser
I didn’t ask you a question.
benblack
In that case, yes, I do like elephants.
Really.
MacGafraidh
Yeah and if there are long or short term effects of that vaccine, the good thing is that we’ll see it impact the 5 million in the UK first. You’re working of the premise that the vaccine is the golden egg and happy days we rolled it out. Early days yet Charage. Those words come yet come back to bite you in the ass.. If the vaccine doesn’t cause it to fall off first
Charger Salmons
So the 120,000 Irish people who’ve had it are guinea pigs too ?
Ireland is literally standing by the ‘phone hopping from one foot to the other praying for it to ring with news that the British/AstraZeneca has been given approval for the EU.
Slaphead Donnelly even suggested he would get in supplies in advance of approval being given before being told by the EU to pipe down and stop being a silly boy.
Ireland’s vaccination rate of 6,300 a day is so slow that the UK has jabbed more people than that before Mehole has had his boiled egg and soldiers in the morning.
Next week it will be ramping up to 24-hour vaxxing.
The feller whose job it is to collate Ireland’s vaccine total is working from home and so far this week he’s creosoted his shed, painted the spare room,arranged his 800-strong CD collection in alphabetical order and completed four 1,000-piece jigsaws.
Joe F
Oh yeah clown man, Ireland is so inferior to the UK. Bozo doing a mighty job. UK 7th highest out of 221 countries listed for deaths per million population. Ireland presently listed 47th. UK rate 2.5 times that of Ireland. And UK is highest out of 221 countries when last 7 days are used. Wonderful job Bozo.
Charlie
‘Please virus ridden Britain, stay at home. We’ll give you 500 quid for cans n chips and a free ticket to economic Palookaville.’
Cheers
Bozo
Fergalito
England you mean innit? That’s yer yardstick – not the oxymoron that is the “United” Kingdom..
Charger Salmons
I was thinking United in the sense that it was bold enough to go its own way on vaccine acquisition which is now reaping rewards in the fast lane while Ireland dawdles on the hard shoulder with the remains of burst tyres and fast food detritus.
Worst of all though is the timidity of its citizens too afraid to question and criticise the unelected people in the EU who rule your lives.
In the biggest-ever crisis to face the EU it has failed lamentably.
But they have you exactly where they want you – on your knees and silent.
It’s been that way since Oct 2nd 2009 – the day the idea of Ireland being independent quietly died of shame.
ReproBertie
Over and over and over and over and over
Like a monkey with a miniature cymbal
The joy of repetition really is in you
Charlie
Poor aul Tommy Englander is so infatuated with saving England’s face that vaccine numbers are all he’s got. The Titanic that is the UK has hit the iceberg. They’re still waltzing in the dining area talking about the good old days and the water is rising in the engine room. Won’t someone help those poor people?
Fergalito
Ah now, sure you can hardly say your fellow countrymen are any less timid than our lot here. Yiz are not exactly renowned in dear blighty for kicking against the pricks, eh? Thing you hate most about society is the thing you hate most about yourself etc…
Well done on the vaccine rollout, its great that more and more people are getting inoculated and sure why wouldn’t a country the size of the (Dis)United Kingdom have the heft and infrastructure to more quickly roll out a vaccine programme given the prevalence of an excellent health system in the NHS – despite the Tories trying to eat it from the inside out. Ye are up to about 7-ish percent of the total population roughly compared with about 2.5% here but sure there’s plenty of time yet to get a last minute winner for the green, white and gold…:-D
They think it’s all over…it’s not yet…
Charger Salmons
Hungary breaks ranks.
You can hardly blame them – Germany negotiated their own private side deal with Pfizer last September.
The EU too embarrassed/weak to tell them off.
Does the Dublin Mayor/Mansion House not have security?
ReproBertie
Not really no. Anyone is free to knock on the door and there’s only a porter to decide who gets in and who doesn’t. It’ll be a very sad thing if a bunch of racists force a change in that open and approachable attitude.
Lord Mayor Chu was in the forecourt of the mansion house when they started harassing her. That’s not that different to just being on the street.
Papi
Monkey see, monkey don’t.
benblack
Polar bear see, human does not.
Papi
A wombat has an ass protection so hard, that predators can’t bite through it, so it just jumps in its burrow and hides until the bad thing goes away.
benblack
Sexual fantasies should be posted elsewhere, Papi.
Descriptions of which would entitle you to membership of many secret societies.
JFK was shot for his knowledge of such.
Charger Salmons
Nissan says Brexit will turbocharge its business in the UK and the company has dismissed disruption at UK ports as ” peanuts.”
Vehicles made at the company’s Sunderland plant are sold in 149 countries around the world.
Are you not going to comment on the wonderful job Bozo is doing with the virus? UK is 8th highest out of 221 countries per million population, that 2.5 times the rate in Ireland. Going on last weeks figures alone, UK has highest rate of death from virus. Not something to be proud of Bozo and pals.
SB
I like the first response to this tweet: “So basically the plan is, everybody drives a Nissan because nothing else is available. Genius”
Brother Barnabas
or a little further down:
“We’ll be able to sell more of our stuff because you wont be able to afford anything else”
Not only are they staying and securing 9,000 Nissan jobs and many more ancilliary jobs but they’re building a battery production line next to the existing factory.
…go easy on the vino collapso there despite what yer man from the Irish Times says…mind you…it might go with gristle…
Charger Salmons
Just finished dinner old sport.
Lovely steak, a bit of creamed spinach and some Aldi Maris Piper frozen chips.
Lady Charger and I are halfway through the second bottle.
All very good.
Marvellous in fact.
This has to be the most feckless government in the history of the state. Stubbornly persisting with the failed policy of lockdown, destroying society as we know it in the process, and sending us to the brink of mental breaking point or beyond. The models and projections upon which the policy is based continue to be kept away from independent scrutiny despite FOI requests. As Michael McDowell put it last October: “is there any case for one comma of it to be kept secret?”
Surely this can’t all be being done for the greater good of public health? Thinking that the solution is to lockdown longer or harder is simply not evidence-based. The proposed cure can’t be worse than the disease, as they say The collateral damage currently being done is enormous Putting blind faith in those steering policy and hoping for the best might be tempting in a way but it’s a dangerous route to take.
And why is it we’re pressing ahead with plans for complete vaccination of the population with experimental vaccines that have no long-term safety data despite the low risk of the virus to most.? It clearly doesn’t make sense in terms of weighing up the risks to public health.. Recently I heard the taoiseach talking on RTE about how in the near future a person may well need a vaccine freedom passport to travel, go to an event, to a bar/restaurant, etc – essentially a kind of kind of ‘vaccine apartheid’.
It would be naive to think that such a system would be only short term once set up. All this talk of “new variants” is set to go on and on and also “immunity only lasts 6 months etc”..What’s going on?
…I’ve asked f_lawless many times what motivates him…he’s gone through all the quack remedies and herd immunity proposal of letting the virus rip through the country but as you can see from his latest post, his underlying message remains anti-vax…his latest quack remedy is vitamin D…
f_lawless
“Any ides on what you would do differently? ”
Absolutely. Disband NHPET in its current form, allowing for a wholly inclusive approach to public health policy to be taken rather than this singular focus on just one public health risk to the detriment of all else.
Adopt an evidence-based approach as set out in a paper by a group of Irish medical practitioners and scientists and now endorsed by 30+ Irish doctors including Prof Jack Lambert (professor and consultant in Infectious Diseases and Genitourinary Medicine at the Mater).
If you haven’t read it already it’s well worth taking the time to do so. Unfortunately, in the current climate, any alternative strategies that challenge government consensus are attacked or dismissed in the media no matter how credible the sources. It’s sad state of affairs
That paper doesn’t address the question of what **should** be done. Its more about what they don’t like. It’s waffle
for example:
1. Removal of hard lockdown policy as a mitigation measure a. Focus on established, time-honoured pre-2020 epidemic management evidence-based principles (WHO, 2019 etc.)”
huh?? what does that actually mean? nothing
b. A functioning society is a healthy society – we consider lockdown to be dysfunctional and cyclical in nature with potential to render repeated harm on our society in the absence of a credible alternative approach. Reliance on lockdown strategy until such
time as a vaccine is fully implemented and effective, would be unsustainable and an error in ourview.
yeah… so that isn’t anything either
c. Implement an updated epidemic/pandemic action plan that is Ireland-focused, and can be used to address any such emergency in the future. The existing Ireland Pandemic Management Plan of 2019 could act as a ready-made template for such a
reworked plan.
write a plan. okay. not exactly what is needed.
d. Serious consideration of safe, workable and reasonable proposals for the reopening of our education; hospitality; travel; tourism; sports and recreation sectors.
ooh. “consider” doing stuff.
e. Commensurate consideration of the mental and physical health impacts of COVID-19 mitigation measures so far, and strategies for their management.
think about stuff.
NOTHING in this is useful. Yes, I agree that we should do these things… but nothing in this says HOW you would do these things. a. Restoration of cancer screening and diagnostic services to pre-2020 levels yep. 100%. But how can you run cancer screening safely in the middle of a pandemic?
b. Restoration of other key elective medical services such as cardiac screening services, orthopaedic joint replacement surgery and cataract surgery yup – totally agree. But if your hospitals are overflowing with Covid patients you can’t do this.
c. Policy for management of preventable lifestyle conditions that pre dispose to significant COVID-19 impact e.g. obesity, insulin resistance, vitamin D deficiency.
A POLICY? wonderful. oh wait, this won’t help a single person.
Pure waffle!
Charger Salmons
Some very interesting analysis reported in the Daily Mail’s US edition comparing Florida and California.
The Sunshine State didn’t lockdown,California did.
Both have nearly identical case rates, hospitalisations and deaths.
I was right there with you; until your second sentence. ‘Failed policy of lockdown’ ..give it a rest.
It seems fairly clear that countries have had least death from COVID if they could effectively close their borders (Aus/NZ)
After that those that have limited travel and interactions, reduced economic activity have had good success, especially when somewhat geographically removed from a larger economic area, like us.
Then there are countries that have not managed the interactions in the country are more significantly hit. ( Sweden, UK/USA)
The government has not damaged society, I see a much stronger sense of community in Ballyfermot (which admittedly may be an anomaly since there are lots of multi-generation families in the area)
People are looking out for each other here; chatting and checking in with each other like I have not experienced here before.
We are not some marionette under the control of the government. Sure it’s different. But take some bloody personal responsibility, see the change be the change to make your local ‘society’ as it should be.
I’ve now been unemployed since May. I would rather be working. We have a single 3yo here and full time daddy daycare is the hardest thing I have had to do in my adult life.
Without being facetious – if everything is getting too stressful then maybe make your world smaller? Most of the news is irrelevant to our day to day is. Certainly the noise in last 3 months from USA is. Actually brexit too probably.
If you cannot effect a change on something then it’s not something to put weight of mind into.
Sure, we know the current vaccine to be good for 6 months. After that they simply don’t know, they hope maybe 18 months. That doesn’t sound great to me when I think about it. But i have neither a solution, or am employed in an area that can worry about the solution, so that is simply outside the frame/scope of my stress.
Micko
Afraid you can’t use other countries success or failures as a reason that lockdowns work Tinytim.
There are too many countries that are outliers on either side. Yes, NZ & Aus did well, but then Belgium, France, Italy and Spain all have deaths per million higher than Sweden for example.
Anyway, point is, comparing countries is not a good idea – too many variables.
I think a more pertinent question is why the hell do we have access to the death figures in these countries anyway – it’s mental!
Also, you may be right about about Ballyfermot and the family structure. I have a few single older relatives and neighbours who are terrified. The lockdown has had a terrible toll on all on them.
Have one elderly neighbour that we do shopping for and she has aged terribly this lockdown. She was ok the first two – but she’s really gone downhill this time.
It may be the weather – but people seem to be suffering big time now.
millie bobby brownie
What a great comment Tinytim. Well said
Lilly
How can we be so sure that immunity only lasts six months? It’s rare for anyone to get it twice and as far as I know, the person who caught it a second time was asymptomatic.
f_lawless
Completely agree Lilly and yet in the vaccine implementation strategy as set out by the government there’s no acknowledgment of this. They specifically state in justification of the planned mass roll-out that they’re acting under the assumption that “the majority of the population remains susceptible to COVID-19 and that prior infection is not necessarily proof of immunity”. Also “it will be important to make clear to potential recipients of a COVID-19 vaccine that the duration of immunity conferred is currently unknown”
@f_lawless:
what is your solution?
you don’t want lockdown; you don’t want vaccines.
Cian
And why is it we’re pressing ahead with plans for complete vaccination of the population with experimental vaccines that have no long-term safety data despite the low risk of the virus to most.?
I’m sick of this selfish argument.
Vaccination is about everyone, you don’t just vaccinate to protect yourself.
Take Rubella (German Measles) as an example. It’s not a particularly serious illness. The main risk is to unborn children. We vaccinate against Rubella so that pregnant women don’t get infected. HSE says: If a pregnant woman gets rubella in early pregnancy 9 in 10 babies will have a major birth defect, such as deafness, blindness, brain damage or heart defects.
Since 1985 we have a policy of vaccinating all babies against Rubella “despite the low risk of the virus” to the males. Why? Because if you only vaccinated the people at risk, they others can and will spread the disease, and this can cause problems for those most at risk!
f_lawless
But it’s not a selfish argument. It’ making an argument that, in the collective interests of public health, the right policy after weighing up the risks is to focus on the vulnerable and allow them to make an informed choice .
Remember, the reality is the vaccine manufacturers have made no claims about the vaccines preventing transmission, only claiming that they can prevent severe disease. It’s not sound public health policy to turn around and say “ah sure let’s just hope for the best” and press ahead with mass vaccinations given that the vaccines are of a new experimental technology, have been rushed to market with no long-term safety data available and with certain high-level experts warning of dangers such as a significant risk of increased auto-immune disease.
I don’t think its valid to make a comparison with the Rubella vaccine which is a traditional vaccine that went through standard testing protocols before coming to market and has a proven track record of efficacy
To me it’s clear that there are other forces at play steering this thing in a certain predetermined direction that are not acting purely in the interests of public health. What we are seeing now is a drive to permanently set up a kind of supranational ‘biosecurity surveillance state’ apparatus. The current goal is to get everyone to opt in to these “health passport-blockchain digital identities”. However, the limited efficacy of the vaccines has thrown a bit of a spanner in the works and more people are starting to question the current narrative – like in this article: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/12/12/vaccine-passports-make-no-sense-covid-jabs-dont-stop-spreading/
“the Government has stressed that we don’t yet have a key piece of information. Do the vaccines simply prevent disease resulting from the virus or do any of them stop a human from carrying and transmitting the virus?
The answer must surely inform the vaccine strategy. If none of the vaccines do prevent transmission, but only prevent disease, then the whole notion of “vaccine passports” makes no sense. Being vaccinated might protect you, but it doesn’t protect the people around you.”
Cian
Remember, the reality is the vaccine manufacturers have made no claims about the vaccines preventing transmission, only claiming that they can prevent severe disease.
Yes. The manufacturers haven’t claimed anything that they cannot prove. At the moment there is insufficient data to show definitively that it prevents transmission – but the provisional data seems good. They haven’t said that it doesn’t stop transmission either.
The current roll-out is to vaccinate the high-risk people first. Hopefully there will be more data available relating to transmission before we get to the younger/healthier people. Then there will be an informed decision to proceed or not with the younger.
Either way, you missed my point. We currently vaccinate the whole population against a disease (Rubella) that is low-risk to most people that get it.
f_lawless
But perhaps you missed the point I was trying to make – in the case of the Rubella vaccine there’s a clear case to be made that the risk-benefit ratio for mass vaccination has been thoroughly established: the benefits far outweigh any potential risks. It already went through all the standard testing protocols and has been used with successful results around the world. Therefore mass vaccination is sound public health policy in that case
On the other hand, I don’t think the risk-benefit ratio for the new experimental vaccines has been clearly established at all. For example, there’s some highly-credible medical experts who state that there’s a “significant risk” of auto-immune disease developing at some stage down the line. Even if it’ were only a relatively small percentage of the population that go on to have a negative outcome, it may be a larger number than the small percentage of the population at serious risk from Covid-19. The benefits of the vaccines haven’t yet been firmly established either despite all the spin that came out upon their release.
Quality Adjusted Life Years (QALY) is another factor that goes into these kinds of calculations. There’s a moral dilemma – is it ethical to potentially put the health of the young at risk, with many years of life left to live, in an act that is uncertain to significantly help protect the elderly and frail near the ends of their own lives?
f_lawless
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But it’s not a selfish argument. It’ making an argument that after weighing up the risks, the right policy in the collective interests of public health, is to focus on the vulnerable and allow them to make an informed choice .
Remember, the reality is the vaccine manufacturers have made no claims about the vaccines preventing transmission, only claiming that they can prevent severe disease. It’s not sound public health policy to turn around and say “ah sure let’s just hope for the best” and press ahead with mass vaccinations given that the vaccines are of a new experimental technology, have been rushed to market with no long-term safety data available and with certain high-level experts warning of dangers such as a significant risk of increased auto-immune disease.
I don’t think its valid to make a comparison with the Rubella vaccine which is a traditional vaccine that went through standard testing protocols before coming to market and has a proven track record of efficacy
To me it’s clear that there are other forces at play steering this thing in a certain predetermined direction that are not acting purely in the interests of public health. What we are seeing now is a drive to permanently set up a kind of supranational ‘biosecurity surveillance state’ apparatus. The current goal is to get everyone to opt in to these “health passport-blockchain digital identities”. However, the limited efficacy of the vaccines has thrown a bit of a spanner in the works and more people are starting to question the current narrative – like in this article:
“the Government has stressed that we don’t yet have a key piece of information. Do the vaccines simply prevent disease resulting from the virus or do any of them stop a human from carrying and transmitting the virus?
The answer must surely inform the vaccine strategy. If none of the vaccines do prevent transmission, but only prevent disease, then the whole notion of “vaccine passports” makes no sense. Being vaccinated might protect you, but it doesn’t protect the people around you.”
Anti Bots
Are you SOQ in disguise i.e. another bodge click bait makey up so called person. Sure nobody is dying, nobody is in hospital, a global conspiracy by pizza shop lizard people. Q anon told me so, and I am too thick to realize the difference. Meanwhile, hospital and retail workers are suffering. But look away, nothing to see here.
benblack
“Facebook refers Donald Trump ban to its ‘supreme court’ to rule on whether suspension should stand”
…surprised John Ryan didn’t ask Dan Boyle about Donald Trump’s claim that the election was stolen from him by postal voters…
Lilly
I’m enjoying these nightly newspaper reviews. The only trouble is I save them for bedtime and John’s voice is so soothing, I’m out for the count after a few minutes.
At first glance last night, I thought Dan was Sebastian Barry. He’s more handsome than the pic accompanying his column suggests. Nice voice too.
I’d have thought that plug immediately under D’Xaminer’s title would have concerned them
Papi
A penguin couple mate for life. Sometimes male penguins will band together to raise an egg, when it’s either abandoned or they are in captivity.
dav
Looks like deliveries into brexitland are drying up.. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/20/absolute-carnage-eu-hauliers-reject-uk-jobs-over-brexit-rules
“A British freight company director with more than 20 years’ experience has told how EU hauliers and transport companies are turning their backs on UK business because they are being asked to provide tens of thousands of pounds in guarantees to cover VAT or potential tariffs on arrival in Britain.
The financial guarantee requirement did not exist before Brexit and EU transport companies who previously provided a shipping service for small and medium-sized firms have decided they do not want the extra financial burden, according to Colin Jeffries, who runs Key Cargo International in Manchester.
“We’ve got people that are trying to bring textiles in from Italy but we are being told there is no haulage availability on that. Nobody’s willing to touch anything because of these guarantees. In Poland, we’re trying to get masks in for PPE in the workplace and we can’t get anyone to bring them over.”
GiggidyGoo
Let’s see how the Garda Harris / Mr. Varadkar Leakgate pans out. Favour to be called in? Who knows, but I’m sure Rob_G and his entourage will make the subject of this comment, the placement of a question mark. ROFL.
Bitnboxy
Guffaw – with Ireland-dwelling Charage nearly suffocating on the Union Jack he has wrapped himself in and you Giggidy running the usual Leo Shinnerbotty obsessive hate-campaign, is there any chance you two could fupp off to a separate forum to roar into the void and give us all some peace from both your obsessions and delusions?
goldenbrown
“Beades loses battle with Council over compulsory site acquisition”
(except I suppose when your excuse that you can but can’t but can but can’t afford the concrete to pour into it but you can conveniently use it as your “plant yard” while you speculate….eh Jerry?)
I think Madgie is worth keeping an eye on btw
not for the ridiculous or the cheap laughs
I suspect some Congress members MIGHT have signed in some of those demonstrators as Visitors there on the 6th
and if its established at all that panic buttons n’ stuff were interfered with beforehand
just saying
goldenbrown
in all fairness what else would you expect to hear from this absolute nutbag she-devil?
“Survivors demand Marjorie Taylor Green resign over more school shooting conspiracy comments”
hm. there must be a factory somewhere in the US turning out these almost identical fairly attractive looking (but rotten on the inside) GOP robot women in US officialdom
Anyone that’s worried or thinking twice about ordering from Amazon UK
I completed a reorder there over the weekend
exactly as in the last purchased ‘August 2018’ type notice
Arrived yesterday, and actually cheaper than the first time
no customs or admin charges or anything like that
no hassle at all
just saying
Nigel
You should always think twice about ordering from Amazon because of how they treat their workers.
millie bobby brownie
The frustrating thing about amazon is that when you think you *might* have found an alternative website to buy from, it turns out amazon own that too (book depository and abebooks)
Nigel
They even own bloody Goodreads FFS. Local bookshops and libraries all the way, where applicable.
Lilly
Oh no. I’ve been buying from Book Depository thinking it an independent UK company.
Otis Blue
There’s always Charlie Byrnes, the best bookshop in the country. They source new, secondhand and out of print. The website should be better designed for online but if you drop them a line they’re great.
and Dunnes is the very last one
a last resort, like in times of lockdown or Storm curfew stuff
that would see me in the door tbh
Started buying all my fruit from the local Polish supermarket since the lad in the village closed down
also a savage place for baking ingredients, the widest range of flours, and would you believe it, teas, I’ve ever seen
way cheaper too
On that note, stay away from the fresh bread and the fresh pastries they’ve got under glass there
ian-oh
I’ve never used any Amazon services for that reason (among others). Its getting too big and while its great now to get the deals on stuff, long term it will result in less competition so eff Mr Bezos.
@Millie – I stopped using Book Depository when I found out they were owned by Amazon and I used to engage with Goodreads until I discovered that too (only just because Christmas as well, was gutted.)
Quite a few authors now use places like Patreon to sell their work direct and I try to go that route when possible (not possible for a lot but for those that do), I also used to before, pre covid, get places like Hodges Figgis to order my books in for me and it was a great experience, pop in, collect a few books and off to a nice pub for a bit of food and a look, I love handling new books for some reason!
Lilly
+ 1 on ordering via Hodges Figgis.
George
But also do worry because you are likely to be liable for VAT.
only thing worse is an empty idle hanger type warehouse facility out there in Rathcoole
so that’s something
Charger Salmons
Those high-minded jokers who say they don’t shop at Amazon because of the way they treat their workers but are happy to buy cheap clothes produced in Asian sweatshops are simply hypocrites.
Especially when they’re posting on expensive smart phones manufactured in Chinese sweatshops using materials in the batteries like cobalt mined by children in the Congo.
Spare me your First World proseletyzing.
Amazon is simply the best retail business ever created and there are reasons for its success which high street shops failed to address until it was too late.
I know places in Ireland that still close for an hour at lunchtime.
Nigel
Oh yes. You are exactly right. There is literally no way to consume ethically in this capitalist society. There are no ethical computers or phones – they simply don’t exist. It’s horrifying. No matter how hard you try we are implicated in exploitation, and guilty of hypocrisy, and thus efforts to change are thwarted and dismissed. I’m gratified to find you agreeing with me on this.
ian-oh
Who are you all replying too?
This is most odd, I can see a blank space and replies? What gives? I see replies from VAnon, Nigel and Lilly but to whom are they replying?
Must be that bathtub gin I’ve been working on, hand crafted for ”selective blindness”(tm) and so strong it bleaches out even the most stubborn of stains, even online stains!
and spare me your generalising happy to buy cheap clothes produced in Asian sweatshops are simply hypocrites.
that just demonstrates, as if more evidence was needed, how thick and narrow minded you are
you don’t know where I buy my clothes or where they are made
or what I pay for them
lets see how honest, and certain of yourself, you really are
So, would you mind sharing the names and locations of those places in Ireland that still close for an hour at lunchtime.
because that promises me that they are Independent traders
and I want to give them what business I might have for their particular enterprise
ta for the spaff, V
Lilly
I’m all for places that close for an hour at lunchtime. I loved that little Italian pizza place in Temple Bar way back that used to shut up shop for a couple of months during the summer while the family went back to Calabria.
Papi
Says the Westboro Baptist Church of human beings.
Nigel
Speaking of ethical late-stage capitalism.
‘By and large, the assumption was Trump wanted to re-open for political gain, but I think a lot of us overlooked how much he was driven by financial concerns’ https://twitter.com/AmandaMarcotte/status/1352586752775610370
Lads
Dunno if ye remember a post about a week or so ago
wondering if the Tomorrow Today session had picked up on four banks getting together to launch a payments app
Synch or something
I was calling it a cartel n’ stuff?
Anyway, first round to us
the Competition and Consumer Protection Commission (CCPC)
Has rejected their application notice
I suspect you’ll be seeing and hearing a lot from Brian Hayes
again now
BTW, has anyone asked if Pat Cox was at the Oireachtas Golf Do
Charger Salmons
I mentioned this in a post late last night – you were probably in Make-up preparing for your starring role in Broadsheet on the Telly.
I also coined a new name for the app, Tractor, which I thought both droll and appropriate.
Irish banks belatedly trying to come up with some Mickey O’Mouse version of closing the stable door after the horse has bolted.
I’m going to put it out there now that I flagged it off one of the newspaper threads
early last week
is it that gout that’s slowing you up
Charger Salmons
Speaking of Aldi I see the Irish Times has finally caught up with one of my favourites in the supermarket wine aisles.
Toro Loco have been banging out some great plonk for years and their organic version is an absolute steal at €6.78.
I picked up several cases of it recently.
Lady Charger informs me it’s cowboy steaks for dinner tonight so several bottles of the Utiel-Requena will have to be opened.
Yee- haa!
Marvellous. https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/food-and-drink/john-wilson-star-buys-from-the-aldi-wine-shelves-1.4465071
Lilly
I would expect a massive hangover from a seven euro bottle of wine, organic or not.
Charger Salmons
Not me Lilly.
Never get them.
Drink plenty of water and all is cushty.
Well, I say never, there was that awful morning after the night before when I’d been drinking tequila in a Mexican cathouse.
By jove, I thought I was dying.
Mind you, as Rowley Birkin often says, I was very …very …drunk.
Lilly
Lucky you. Treat yourself to a trip out to Whelehan’s if you haven’t already been. Some lovely wines.
Charger Salmons
Thanks Lilly – I’ll have a sconce.
Always keen to expand where I source the vino from.
cardboard boxes lad
Cardboard Boxes tis
no need for the airs n’ graces if you’re buying wine in a supermarket
and a discount supermarket n’all
Charger Salmons
I’m afraid you’ve made yourself look a bit of a fool and not for the first time.
Any committed oenophilist will tell you a case of wine has long meant twelve 750ml bottles.
It doesn’t matter what the case they come in is made of it’s simpy a term for a dozen bottles.
It’s a bit like ‘ baker’s dozen.’
It means 13 not a dozen.
Stick to your baking and stop embarrasing yourself.
I’m always happy for a spot of banter.
But pointless and repetitive insults merely get someone dragooned to Chump’s Corner.
Let’s just say you’re hovering on the periphery but I’m making allowances because of your commitment to Broadsheet which is generally well-intentioned.
Their gaff,their rules™
Well, by the looks of things
the company you’ve already put into your Char’rumps Corner sound like the kinda lads I’d prefer to knock around with anyway
So ta
Meanwhile, I’ve been advised that Supermarket off-licences only sell boxes of 6 bottles, max
Not 12
In boxes or whatever you’re having yerself
…. Slab of cans probably, but each to their own n’ all that
Tr’ rah luv
Charger Salmons
Okay, one more time for the slow kid at the back of the class.
A case refers to 12 bottles not the reseptacle they come in.
12 bottles.
Not the case.
Wine is delivered to supermarkets in cases of 12.The case is a cardboard box.Once they’re unopened and put on the shelves 12 of them are still a case.
Remember.
A case is 12 bottles.
Surely even you can grasp this simple fact ?
if tis you that’s calling me the slow kid at the back
I think my work here is done
Rosette of Sirius
Two buck Chuck….! sez it all…
Lilly
Has Tubridy been buttering up Mick Heaney, slathering praise on his late father? I recall hearing a snippet of the programme mentioned, with Tubs droning on about his coffee machine and thinking, boring ME ME ME before switching off. Beauty is definitely in the eye of the beholder.
‘ EU member states have not “adequately respected” the principle of burdensharing in the loss of fish quotas post-Brexit and Ireland has been disproportionately affected, according to Minister for the Marine Charlie McConalogue.’
Charger’s Vax Fact™ # 31
The UK has administered 5,437,284 Covid-19 vaccine doses.
Or to put it another way, in less than a month the UK has vaccinated the equivalent of the entire population of Ireland.
Ireland, which has only administered 120,000 vaccines, doesn’t expect to achieve that target for another eight months.
Uncomfortable as it may be for a nation which forever judges itself against the yardstick of the UK at what point do the media and politicians demand to know why the EU has allowed this to happen.
Asking for the relatives of Irish people who will die as result of the EU’s utter incompetence.
If the UK is doing such a good job clown man, would you like to comment on the fact that it is 8th highest out of 221 countries for deaths per million from the virus? And if you are looking at the last week alone, they are HIGHEST out of 221 listed countries.
That is approximately 2 1/2 times the rate in Ireland.
Great job Bozo and friends.
Marvelous.
Effing hell, you really are the Pied Piper, Charger!
And you really are a sycophant.
I do like elephants, but not that much.
Does that answer your question?
I didn’t ask you a question.
In that case, yes, I do like elephants.
Really.
Yeah and if there are long or short term effects of that vaccine, the good thing is that we’ll see it impact the 5 million in the UK first. You’re working of the premise that the vaccine is the golden egg and happy days we rolled it out. Early days yet Charage. Those words come yet come back to bite you in the ass.. If the vaccine doesn’t cause it to fall off first
So the 120,000 Irish people who’ve had it are guinea pigs too ?
Ireland is literally standing by the ‘phone hopping from one foot to the other praying for it to ring with news that the British/AstraZeneca has been given approval for the EU.
Slaphead Donnelly even suggested he would get in supplies in advance of approval being given before being told by the EU to pipe down and stop being a silly boy.
Ireland’s vaccination rate of 6,300 a day is so slow that the UK has jabbed more people than that before Mehole has had his boiled egg and soldiers in the morning.
Next week it will be ramping up to 24-hour vaxxing.
The feller whose job it is to collate Ireland’s vaccine total is working from home and so far this week he’s creosoted his shed, painted the spare room,arranged his 800-strong CD collection in alphabetical order and completed four 1,000-piece jigsaws.
Oh yeah clown man, Ireland is so inferior to the UK. Bozo doing a mighty job. UK 7th highest out of 221 countries listed for deaths per million population. Ireland presently listed 47th. UK rate 2.5 times that of Ireland. And UK is highest out of 221 countries when last 7 days are used. Wonderful job Bozo.
‘Please virus ridden Britain, stay at home. We’ll give you 500 quid for cans n chips and a free ticket to economic Palookaville.’
Cheers
Bozo
England you mean innit? That’s yer yardstick – not the oxymoron that is the “United” Kingdom..
I was thinking United in the sense that it was bold enough to go its own way on vaccine acquisition which is now reaping rewards in the fast lane while Ireland dawdles on the hard shoulder with the remains of burst tyres and fast food detritus.
Worst of all though is the timidity of its citizens too afraid to question and criticise the unelected people in the EU who rule your lives.
In the biggest-ever crisis to face the EU it has failed lamentably.
But they have you exactly where they want you – on your knees and silent.
It’s been that way since Oct 2nd 2009 – the day the idea of Ireland being independent quietly died of shame.
Over and over and over and over and over
Like a monkey with a miniature cymbal
The joy of repetition really is in you
Poor aul Tommy Englander is so infatuated with saving England’s face that vaccine numbers are all he’s got. The Titanic that is the UK has hit the iceberg. They’re still waltzing in the dining area talking about the good old days and the water is rising in the engine room. Won’t someone help those poor people?
Ah now, sure you can hardly say your fellow countrymen are any less timid than our lot here. Yiz are not exactly renowned in dear blighty for kicking against the pricks, eh? Thing you hate most about society is the thing you hate most about yourself etc…
Well done on the vaccine rollout, its great that more and more people are getting inoculated and sure why wouldn’t a country the size of the (Dis)United Kingdom have the heft and infrastructure to more quickly roll out a vaccine programme given the prevalence of an excellent health system in the NHS – despite the Tories trying to eat it from the inside out. Ye are up to about 7-ish percent of the total population roughly compared with about 2.5% here but sure there’s plenty of time yet to get a last minute winner for the green, white and gold…:-D
They think it’s all over…it’s not yet…
Hungary breaks ranks.
You can hardly blame them – Germany negotiated their own private side deal with Pfizer last September.
The EU too embarrassed/weak to tell them off.
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/health-pharma/hungary-buys-sputnik-vaccines-for-1m-people-saying-eu-has-been-too-slow-1.4465272
doesn’t look like the famous sportsman has been cleared of anything
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/19/sports/conor-mcgregor-lawsuit-ufc.html
Does the Dublin Mayor/Mansion House not have security?
Not really no. Anyone is free to knock on the door and there’s only a porter to decide who gets in and who doesn’t. It’ll be a very sad thing if a bunch of racists force a change in that open and approachable attitude.
Lord Mayor Chu was in the forecourt of the mansion house when they started harassing her. That’s not that different to just being on the street.
Monkey see, monkey don’t.
Polar bear see, human does not.
A wombat has an ass protection so hard, that predators can’t bite through it, so it just jumps in its burrow and hides until the bad thing goes away.
Sexual fantasies should be posted elsewhere, Papi.
Descriptions of which would entitle you to membership of many secret societies.
JFK was shot for his knowledge of such.
Nissan says Brexit will turbocharge its business in the UK and the company has dismissed disruption at UK ports as ” peanuts.”
Vehicles made at the company’s Sunderland plant are sold in 149 countries around the world.
https://mobile.twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1352372162926145536/photo/1
Heh x Project Fearless.
Are you not going to comment on the wonderful job Bozo is doing with the virus? UK is 8th highest out of 221 countries per million population, that 2.5 times the rate in Ireland. Going on last weeks figures alone, UK has highest rate of death from virus. Not something to be proud of Bozo and pals.
I like the first response to this tweet: “So basically the plan is, everybody drives a Nissan because nothing else is available. Genius”
or a little further down:
“We’ll be able to sell more of our stuff because you wont be able to afford anything else”
Project Fear eh ?
https://twitter.com/campbellclaret/status/1199772561376251904
Not only are they staying and securing 9,000 Nissan jobs and many more ancilliary jobs but they’re building a battery production line next to the existing factory.
Heh,heh,heh.
…go easy on the vino collapso there despite what yer man from the Irish Times says…mind you…it might go with gristle…
Just finished dinner old sport.
Lovely steak, a bit of creamed spinach and some Aldi Maris Piper frozen chips.
Lady Charger and I are halfway through the second bottle.
All very good.
Marvellous in fact.
https://twitter.com/Colinbreeden/status/1199780673164320769/photo/1
Heh x 45 mins
“When seagulls follow the trawler it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea,”
The Catonaic Bible, I’m sure, Otis.
Far from Manchester –
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2camSvs5rwo
Enjoy!
If, not – complain.
https://media.tenor.com/images/7ad462a5312bfc6d508feb96ee6de117/tenor.gif
USA/UK ‘Special Relationship’ update
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9171789/Joe-Biden-removes-bust-Winston-Churchill-Oval-Office.html
From the US Embassy in London.
https://twitter.com/USAinUK/status/1352642302091653121
This has to be the most feckless government in the history of the state. Stubbornly persisting with the failed policy of lockdown, destroying society as we know it in the process, and sending us to the brink of mental breaking point or beyond. The models and projections upon which the policy is based continue to be kept away from independent scrutiny despite FOI requests. As Michael McDowell put it last October: “is there any case for one comma of it to be kept secret?”
Surely this can’t all be being done for the greater good of public health? Thinking that the solution is to lockdown longer or harder is simply not evidence-based. The proposed cure can’t be worse than the disease, as they say The collateral damage currently being done is enormous Putting blind faith in those steering policy and hoping for the best might be tempting in a way but it’s a dangerous route to take.
https://thecritic.co.uk/lockdown-sceptics-are-societys-gadflies/
And why is it we’re pressing ahead with plans for complete vaccination of the population with experimental vaccines that have no long-term safety data despite the low risk of the virus to most.? It clearly doesn’t make sense in terms of weighing up the risks to public health.. Recently I heard the taoiseach talking on RTE about how in the near future a person may well need a vaccine freedom passport to travel, go to an event, to a bar/restaurant, etc – essentially a kind of kind of ‘vaccine apartheid’.
It would be naive to think that such a system would be only short term once set up. All this talk of “new variants” is set to go on and on and also “immunity only lasts 6 months etc”..What’s going on?
Life, as we know it, is going on, f_lawless.
“What’s going on?” – a really nasty disease.
Any ides on what you would do differently?
…Or is it all just fake?
…I’ve asked f_lawless many times what motivates him…he’s gone through all the quack remedies and herd immunity proposal of letting the virus rip through the country but as you can see from his latest post, his underlying message remains anti-vax…his latest quack remedy is vitamin D…
“Any ides on what you would do differently? ”
Absolutely. Disband NHPET in its current form, allowing for a wholly inclusive approach to public health policy to be taken rather than this singular focus on just one public health risk to the detriment of all else.
Adopt an evidence-based approach as set out in a paper by a group of Irish medical practitioners and scientists and now endorsed by 30+ Irish doctors including Prof Jack Lambert (professor and consultant in Infectious Diseases and Genitourinary Medicine at the Mater).
If you haven’t read it already it’s well worth taking the time to do so. Unfortunately, in the current climate, any alternative strategies that challenge government consensus are attacked or dismissed in the media no matter how credible the sources. It’s sad state of affairs
https://covidrecovery.ie/
That paper doesn’t address the question of what **should** be done. Its more about what they don’t like. It’s waffle
for example:
1. Removal of hard lockdown policy as a mitigation measure
a. Focus on established, time-honoured pre-2020 epidemic management evidence-based principles (WHO, 2019 etc.)”
huh?? what does that actually mean? nothing
b. A functioning society is a healthy society – we consider lockdown to be dysfunctional and cyclical in nature with potential to render repeated harm on our society in the absence of a credible alternative approach. Reliance on lockdown strategy until such
time as a vaccine is fully implemented and effective, would be unsustainable and an error in ourview.
yeah… so that isn’t anything either
c. Implement an updated epidemic/pandemic action plan that is Ireland-focused, and can be used to address any such emergency in the future. The existing Ireland Pandemic Management Plan of 2019 could act as a ready-made template for such a
reworked plan.
write a plan. okay. not exactly what is needed.
d. Serious consideration of safe, workable and reasonable proposals for the reopening of our education; hospitality; travel; tourism; sports and recreation sectors.
ooh. “consider” doing stuff.
e. Commensurate consideration of the mental and physical health impacts of COVID-19 mitigation measures so far, and strategies for their management.
think about stuff.
NOTHING in this is useful. Yes, I agree that we should do these things… but nothing in this says HOW you would do these things.
a. Restoration of cancer screening and diagnostic services to pre-2020 levels yep. 100%. But how can you run cancer screening safely in the middle of a pandemic?
b. Restoration of other key elective medical services such as cardiac screening services, orthopaedic joint replacement surgery and cataract surgery yup – totally agree. But if your hospitals are overflowing with Covid patients you can’t do this.
c. Policy for management of preventable lifestyle conditions that pre dispose to significant COVID-19 impact e.g. obesity, insulin resistance, vitamin D deficiency.
A POLICY? wonderful. oh wait, this won’t help a single person.
Pure waffle!
Some very interesting analysis reported in the Daily Mail’s US edition comparing Florida and California.
The Sunshine State didn’t lockdown,California did.
Both have nearly identical case rates, hospitalisations and deaths.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9176263/Florida-California-took-opposite-approaches-COVID-19-ended-outcome.html
I was right there with you; until your second sentence. ‘Failed policy of lockdown’ ..give it a rest.
It seems fairly clear that countries have had least death from COVID if they could effectively close their borders (Aus/NZ)
After that those that have limited travel and interactions, reduced economic activity have had good success, especially when somewhat geographically removed from a larger economic area, like us.
Then there are countries that have not managed the interactions in the country are more significantly hit. ( Sweden, UK/USA)
The government has not damaged society, I see a much stronger sense of community in Ballyfermot (which admittedly may be an anomaly since there are lots of multi-generation families in the area)
People are looking out for each other here; chatting and checking in with each other like I have not experienced here before.
We are not some marionette under the control of the government. Sure it’s different. But take some bloody personal responsibility, see the change be the change to make your local ‘society’ as it should be.
I’ve now been unemployed since May. I would rather be working. We have a single 3yo here and full time daddy daycare is the hardest thing I have had to do in my adult life.
Without being facetious – if everything is getting too stressful then maybe make your world smaller? Most of the news is irrelevant to our day to day is. Certainly the noise in last 3 months from USA is. Actually brexit too probably.
If you cannot effect a change on something then it’s not something to put weight of mind into.
Sure, we know the current vaccine to be good for 6 months. After that they simply don’t know, they hope maybe 18 months. That doesn’t sound great to me when I think about it. But i have neither a solution, or am employed in an area that can worry about the solution, so that is simply outside the frame/scope of my stress.
Afraid you can’t use other countries success or failures as a reason that lockdowns work Tinytim.
There are too many countries that are outliers on either side. Yes, NZ & Aus did well, but then Belgium, France, Italy and Spain all have deaths per million higher than Sweden for example.
Anyway, point is, comparing countries is not a good idea – too many variables.
I think a more pertinent question is why the hell do we have access to the death figures in these countries anyway – it’s mental!
Also, you may be right about about Ballyfermot and the family structure. I have a few single older relatives and neighbours who are terrified. The lockdown has had a terrible toll on all on them.
Have one elderly neighbour that we do shopping for and she has aged terribly this lockdown. She was ok the first two – but she’s really gone downhill this time.
It may be the weather – but people seem to be suffering big time now.
What a great comment Tinytim. Well said
How can we be so sure that immunity only lasts six months? It’s rare for anyone to get it twice and as far as I know, the person who caught it a second time was asymptomatic.
Completely agree Lilly and yet in the vaccine implementation strategy as set out by the government there’s no acknowledgment of this. They specifically state in justification of the planned mass roll-out that they’re acting under the assumption that “the majority of the population remains susceptible to COVID-19 and that prior infection is not necessarily proof of immunity”. Also “it will be important to make clear to potential recipients of a COVID-19 vaccine that the duration of immunity conferred is currently unknown”
https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/bf337-covid-19-vaccination-strategy-and-implementation-plan/
@f_lawless:
what is your solution?
you don’t want lockdown; you don’t want vaccines.
And why is it we’re pressing ahead with plans for complete vaccination of the population with experimental vaccines that have no long-term safety data despite the low risk of the virus to most.?
I’m sick of this selfish argument.
Vaccination is about everyone, you don’t just vaccinate to protect yourself.
Take Rubella (German Measles) as an example. It’s not a particularly serious illness. The main risk is to unborn children. We vaccinate against Rubella so that pregnant women don’t get infected. HSE says: If a pregnant woman gets rubella in early pregnancy 9 in 10 babies will have a major birth defect, such as deafness, blindness, brain damage or heart defects.
Since 1985 we have a policy of vaccinating all babies against Rubella “despite the low risk of the virus” to the males. Why? Because if you only vaccinated the people at risk, they others can and will spread the disease, and this can cause problems for those most at risk!
But it’s not a selfish argument. It’ making an argument that, in the collective interests of public health, the right policy after weighing up the risks is to focus on the vulnerable and allow them to make an informed choice .
Remember, the reality is the vaccine manufacturers have made no claims about the vaccines preventing transmission, only claiming that they can prevent severe disease. It’s not sound public health policy to turn around and say “ah sure let’s just hope for the best” and press ahead with mass vaccinations given that the vaccines are of a new experimental technology, have been rushed to market with no long-term safety data available and with certain high-level experts warning of dangers such as a significant risk of increased auto-immune disease.
I don’t think its valid to make a comparison with the Rubella vaccine which is a traditional vaccine that went through standard testing protocols before coming to market and has a proven track record of efficacy
To me it’s clear that there are other forces at play steering this thing in a certain predetermined direction that are not acting purely in the interests of public health. What we are seeing now is a drive to permanently set up a kind of supranational ‘biosecurity surveillance state’ apparatus. The current goal is to get everyone to opt in to these “health passport-blockchain digital identities”. However, the limited efficacy of the vaccines has thrown a bit of a spanner in the works and more people are starting to question the current narrative – like in this article:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/12/12/vaccine-passports-make-no-sense-covid-jabs-dont-stop-spreading/
“the Government has stressed that we don’t yet have a key piece of information. Do the vaccines simply prevent disease resulting from the virus or do any of them stop a human from carrying and transmitting the virus?
The answer must surely inform the vaccine strategy. If none of the vaccines do prevent transmission, but only prevent disease, then the whole notion of “vaccine passports” makes no sense. Being vaccinated might protect you, but it doesn’t protect the people around you.”
Remember, the reality is the vaccine manufacturers have made no claims about the vaccines preventing transmission, only claiming that they can prevent severe disease.
Yes. The manufacturers haven’t claimed anything that they cannot prove. At the moment there is insufficient data to show definitively that it prevents transmission – but the provisional data seems good. They haven’t said that it doesn’t stop transmission either.
The current roll-out is to vaccinate the high-risk people first. Hopefully there will be more data available relating to transmission before we get to the younger/healthier people. Then there will be an informed decision to proceed or not with the younger.
Either way, you missed my point. We currently vaccinate the whole population against a disease (Rubella) that is low-risk to most people that get it.
But perhaps you missed the point I was trying to make – in the case of the Rubella vaccine there’s a clear case to be made that the risk-benefit ratio for mass vaccination has been thoroughly established: the benefits far outweigh any potential risks. It already went through all the standard testing protocols and has been used with successful results around the world. Therefore mass vaccination is sound public health policy in that case
On the other hand, I don’t think the risk-benefit ratio for the new experimental vaccines has been clearly established at all. For example, there’s some highly-credible medical experts who state that there’s a “significant risk” of auto-immune disease developing at some stage down the line. Even if it’ were only a relatively small percentage of the population that go on to have a negative outcome, it may be a larger number than the small percentage of the population at serious risk from Covid-19. The benefits of the vaccines haven’t yet been firmly established either despite all the spin that came out upon their release.
Quality Adjusted Life Years (QALY) is another factor that goes into these kinds of calculations. There’s a moral dilemma – is it ethical to potentially put the health of the young at risk, with many years of life left to live, in an act that is uncertain to significantly help protect the elderly and frail near the ends of their own lives?
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But it’s not a selfish argument. It’ making an argument that after weighing up the risks, the right policy in the collective interests of public health, is to focus on the vulnerable and allow them to make an informed choice .
Remember, the reality is the vaccine manufacturers have made no claims about the vaccines preventing transmission, only claiming that they can prevent severe disease. It’s not sound public health policy to turn around and say “ah sure let’s just hope for the best” and press ahead with mass vaccinations given that the vaccines are of a new experimental technology, have been rushed to market with no long-term safety data available and with certain high-level experts warning of dangers such as a significant risk of increased auto-immune disease.
I don’t think its valid to make a comparison with the Rubella vaccine which is a traditional vaccine that went through standard testing protocols before coming to market and has a proven track record of efficacy
To me it’s clear that there are other forces at play steering this thing in a certain predetermined direction that are not acting purely in the interests of public health. What we are seeing now is a drive to permanently set up a kind of supranational ‘biosecurity surveillance state’ apparatus. The current goal is to get everyone to opt in to these “health passport-blockchain digital identities”. However, the limited efficacy of the vaccines has thrown a bit of a spanner in the works and more people are starting to question the current narrative – like in this article:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/12/12/vaccine-passports-make-no-sense-covid-jabs-dont-stop-spreading/
“the Government has stressed that we don’t yet have a key piece of information. Do the vaccines simply prevent disease resulting from the virus or do any of them stop a human from carrying and transmitting the virus?
The answer must surely inform the vaccine strategy. If none of the vaccines do prevent transmission, but only prevent disease, then the whole notion of “vaccine passports” makes no sense. Being vaccinated might protect you, but it doesn’t protect the people around you.”
Are you SOQ in disguise i.e. another bodge click bait makey up so called person. Sure nobody is dying, nobody is in hospital, a global conspiracy by pizza shop lizard people. Q anon told me so, and I am too thick to realize the difference. Meanwhile, hospital and retail workers are suffering. But look away, nothing to see here.
“Facebook refers Donald Trump ban to its ‘supreme court’ to rule on whether suspension should stand”
https://www.thejournal.ie/facebook-ban-donald-trump-supreme-court-5332282-Jan2021/
What Corporatocracy?
Horrible word, BTW. Prefer the original – Plutocracy.
Men are from Mars, women are from Venus – tyrannical technocrats are – elliptically twisted – from Pluto.
…surprised John Ryan didn’t ask Dan Boyle about Donald Trump’s claim that the election was stolen from him by postal voters…
I’m enjoying these nightly newspaper reviews. The only trouble is I save them for bedtime and John’s voice is so soothing, I’m out for the count after a few minutes.
At first glance last night, I thought Dan was Sebastian Barry. He’s more handsome than the pic accompanying his column suggests. Nice voice too.
I’d have thought that plug immediately under D’Xaminer’s title would have concerned them
A penguin couple mate for life. Sometimes male penguins will band together to raise an egg, when it’s either abandoned or they are in captivity.
Looks like deliveries into brexitland are drying up..
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/20/absolute-carnage-eu-hauliers-reject-uk-jobs-over-brexit-rules
“A British freight company director with more than 20 years’ experience has told how EU hauliers and transport companies are turning their backs on UK business because they are being asked to provide tens of thousands of pounds in guarantees to cover VAT or potential tariffs on arrival in Britain.
The financial guarantee requirement did not exist before Brexit and EU transport companies who previously provided a shipping service for small and medium-sized firms have decided they do not want the extra financial burden, according to Colin Jeffries, who runs Key Cargo International in Manchester.
“We’ve got people that are trying to bring textiles in from Italy but we are being told there is no haulage availability on that. Nobody’s willing to touch anything because of these guarantees. In Poland, we’re trying to get masks in for PPE in the workplace and we can’t get anyone to bring them over.”
Let’s see how the Garda Harris / Mr. Varadkar Leakgate pans out. Favour to be called in? Who knows, but I’m sure Rob_G and his entourage will make the subject of this comment, the placement of a question mark. ROFL.
Guffaw – with Ireland-dwelling Charage nearly suffocating on the Union Jack he has wrapped himself in and you Giggidy running the usual Leo Shinnerbotty obsessive hate-campaign, is there any chance you two could fupp off to a separate forum to roar into the void and give us all some peace from both your obsessions and delusions?
“Beades loses battle with Council over compulsory site acquisition”
https://www.independent.ie/business/irish/beades-loses-battle-with-council-over-compulsory-site-acquisition-39997133.html
concrete built is better built
(except I suppose when your excuse that you can but can’t but can but can’t afford the concrete to pour into it but you can conveniently use it as your “plant yard” while you speculate….eh Jerry?)
LOL
more of this please
Tis happening (◠‿◕)
https://twitter.com/RepMTG/status/1352359178355011586?s=19
It must have killed Marge to call the new president by his actual name.
Let the Q be with her!
I think Madgie is worth keeping an eye on btw
not for the ridiculous or the cheap laughs
I suspect some Congress members MIGHT have signed in some of those demonstrators as Visitors there on the 6th
and if its established at all that panic buttons n’ stuff were interfered with beforehand
just saying
in all fairness what else would you expect to hear from this absolute nutbag she-devil?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/marjorie-taylor-greene-sandy-hook-b1791014.html
“Survivors demand Marjorie Taylor Green resign over more school shooting conspiracy comments”
hm. there must be a factory somewhere in the US turning out these almost identical fairly attractive looking (but rotten on the inside) GOP robot women in US officialdom
She’s a scumbag of the highest order….
Anyone that’s worried or thinking twice about ordering from Amazon UK
I completed a reorder there over the weekend
exactly as in the last purchased ‘August 2018’ type notice
Arrived yesterday, and actually cheaper than the first time
no customs or admin charges or anything like that
no hassle at all
just saying
You should always think twice about ordering from Amazon because of how they treat their workers.
The frustrating thing about amazon is that when you think you *might* have found an alternative website to buy from, it turns out amazon own that too (book depository and abebooks)
They even own bloody Goodreads FFS. Local bookshops and libraries all the way, where applicable.
Oh no. I’ve been buying from Book Depository thinking it an independent UK company.
There’s always Charlie Byrnes, the best bookshop in the country. They source new, secondhand and out of print. The website should be better designed for online but if you drop them a line they’re great.
https://charliebyrne.ie/the-shop/
Noted
and I’m not comfortable with giving them my custom either
I don’t want to give banks or insurance companies my money either
ultimately I still need to equip myself for work
Amazon won’t be making much money off me
and my custom is heavy burdened with reluctance
and loud with protest
They don’t make it easy.
I feel the same way about shopping at Dunnes Stores, but not much to choose from within the 5k lately.
They opened a new Lidl literally less than 10 mins walk from me, its a godsend I have to say and saving me a fortune.
Up to that it was Super Valu or Tesco and they were a good bit away.
I’m surrounded by them all
and Dunnes is the very last one
a last resort, like in times of lockdown or Storm curfew stuff
that would see me in the door tbh
Started buying all my fruit from the local Polish supermarket since the lad in the village closed down
also a savage place for baking ingredients, the widest range of flours, and would you believe it, teas, I’ve ever seen
way cheaper too
Plus they have Lays crisps. Nomnomnom…
Ah stop
I’m trying to be good
On that note, stay away from the fresh bread and the fresh pastries they’ve got under glass there
I’ve never used any Amazon services for that reason (among others). Its getting too big and while its great now to get the deals on stuff, long term it will result in less competition so eff Mr Bezos.
@Millie – I stopped using Book Depository when I found out they were owned by Amazon and I used to engage with Goodreads until I discovered that too (only just because Christmas as well, was gutted.)
Quite a few authors now use places like Patreon to sell their work direct and I try to go that route when possible (not possible for a lot but for those that do), I also used to before, pre covid, get places like Hodges Figgis to order my books in for me and it was a great experience, pop in, collect a few books and off to a nice pub for a bit of food and a look, I love handling new books for some reason!
+ 1 on ordering via Hodges Figgis.
But also do worry because you are likely to be liable for VAT.
Registered anyway
V, it’s entirely possible it shipped from their new distribution center in Rathcoole.
only thing worse is an empty idle hanger type warehouse facility out there in Rathcoole
so that’s something
Those high-minded jokers who say they don’t shop at Amazon because of the way they treat their workers but are happy to buy cheap clothes produced in Asian sweatshops are simply hypocrites.
Especially when they’re posting on expensive smart phones manufactured in Chinese sweatshops using materials in the batteries like cobalt mined by children in the Congo.
Spare me your First World proseletyzing.
Amazon is simply the best retail business ever created and there are reasons for its success which high street shops failed to address until it was too late.
I know places in Ireland that still close for an hour at lunchtime.
Oh yes. You are exactly right. There is literally no way to consume ethically in this capitalist society. There are no ethical computers or phones – they simply don’t exist. It’s horrifying. No matter how hard you try we are implicated in exploitation, and guilty of hypocrisy, and thus efforts to change are thwarted and dismissed. I’m gratified to find you agreeing with me on this.
Who are you all replying too?
This is most odd, I can see a blank space and replies? What gives? I see replies from VAnon, Nigel and Lilly but to whom are they replying?
Must be that bathtub gin I’ve been working on, hand crafted for ”selective blindness”(tm) and so strong it bleaches out even the most stubborn of stains, even online stains!
Marvellous.
A Turing test.
On par with Trumps cognitive test:
Man, internet, loneliness, trolling, despair.
and spare me your generalising
happy to buy cheap clothes produced in Asian sweatshops are simply hypocrites.
that just demonstrates, as if more evidence was needed, how thick and narrow minded you are
you don’t know where I buy my clothes or where they are made
or what I pay for them
lets see how honest, and certain of yourself, you really are
So, would you mind sharing the names and locations of those places in Ireland that still close for an hour at lunchtime.
because that promises me that they are Independent traders
and I want to give them what business I might have for their particular enterprise
ta for the spaff, V
I’m all for places that close for an hour at lunchtime. I loved that little Italian pizza place in Temple Bar way back that used to shut up shop for a couple of months during the summer while the family went back to Calabria.
Says the Westboro Baptist Church of human beings.
Speaking of ethical late-stage capitalism.
‘By and large, the assumption was Trump wanted to re-open for political gain, but I think a lot of us overlooked how much he was driven by financial concerns’
https://twitter.com/AmandaMarcotte/status/1352586752775610370
Lads
Dunno if ye remember a post about a week or so ago
wondering if the Tomorrow Today session had picked up on four banks getting together to launch a payments app
Synch or something
I was calling it a cartel n’ stuff?
Anyway, first round to us
the Competition and Consumer Protection Commission (CCPC)
Has rejected their application notice
I suspect you’ll be seeing and hearing a lot from Brian Hayes
again now
BTW, has anyone asked if Pat Cox was at the Oireachtas Golf Do
I mentioned this in a post late last night – you were probably in Make-up preparing for your starring role in Broadsheet on the Telly.
I also coined a new name for the app, Tractor, which I thought both droll and appropriate.
Irish banks belatedly trying to come up with some Mickey O’Mouse version of closing the stable door after the horse has bolted.
only last night Charage
I’m going to put it out there now that I flagged it off one of the newspaper threads
early last week
is it that gout that’s slowing you up
Speaking of Aldi I see the Irish Times has finally caught up with one of my favourites in the supermarket wine aisles.
Toro Loco have been banging out some great plonk for years and their organic version is an absolute steal at €6.78.
I picked up several cases of it recently.
Lady Charger informs me it’s cowboy steaks for dinner tonight so several bottles of the Utiel-Requena will have to be opened.
Yee- haa!
Marvellous.
https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/food-and-drink/john-wilson-star-buys-from-the-aldi-wine-shelves-1.4465071
I would expect a massive hangover from a seven euro bottle of wine, organic or not.
Not me Lilly.
Never get them.
Drink plenty of water and all is cushty.
Well, I say never, there was that awful morning after the night before when I’d been drinking tequila in a Mexican cathouse.
By jove, I thought I was dying.
Mind you, as Rowley Birkin often says, I was very …very …drunk.
Lucky you. Treat yourself to a trip out to Whelehan’s if you haven’t already been. Some lovely wines.
Thanks Lilly – I’ll have a sconce.
Always keen to expand where I source the vino from.
ah bless
Cases
the delusions have gotten to him
cardboard boxes lad
Cardboard Boxes tis
no need for the airs n’ graces if you’re buying wine in a supermarket
and a discount supermarket n’all
I’m afraid you’ve made yourself look a bit of a fool and not for the first time.
Any committed oenophilist will tell you a case of wine has long meant twelve 750ml bottles.
It doesn’t matter what the case they come in is made of it’s simpy a term for a dozen bottles.
It’s a bit like ‘ baker’s dozen.’
It means 13 not a dozen.
Stick to your baking and stop embarrasing yourself.
Nice to see you reply Charage
You usually leave me hanging
I’m always happy for a spot of banter.
But pointless and repetitive insults merely get someone dragooned to Chump’s Corner.
Let’s just say you’re hovering on the periphery but I’m making allowances because of your commitment to Broadsheet which is generally well-intentioned.
Their gaff,their rules™
Well, by the looks of things
the company you’ve already put into your Char’rumps Corner sound like the kinda lads I’d prefer to knock around with anyway
So ta
Meanwhile, I’ve been advised that Supermarket off-licences only sell boxes of 6 bottles, max
Not 12
In boxes or whatever you’re having yerself
…. Slab of cans probably, but each to their own n’ all that
Tr’ rah luv
Okay, one more time for the slow kid at the back of the class.
A case refers to 12 bottles not the reseptacle they come in.
12 bottles.
Not the case.
Wine is delivered to supermarkets in cases of 12.The case is a cardboard box.Once they’re unopened and put on the shelves 12 of them are still a case.
Remember.
A case is 12 bottles.
Surely even you can grasp this simple fact ?
if tis you that’s calling me the slow kid at the back
I think my work here is done
Two buck Chuck….! sez it all…
Has Tubridy been buttering up Mick Heaney, slathering praise on his late father? I recall hearing a snippet of the programme mentioned, with Tubs droning on about his coffee machine and thinking, boring ME ME ME before switching off. Beauty is definitely in the eye of the beholder.
https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/tv-radio-web/don-t-sweat-the-big-stuff-top-earner-tubridy-sticks-to-small-talk-1.4464278?mode=amp
Goodbye and thanks for all the fish you say ?
‘ EU member states have not “adequately respected” the principle of burdensharing in the loss of fish quotas post-Brexit and Ireland has been disproportionately affected, according to Minister for the Marine Charlie McConalogue.’
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/ireland-not-at-all-happy-about-disproportionate-fish-quota-loss-minister-1.4465353
Their gaff, their rules.
Lol
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9176681/amp/I-duped-Trump-QAnon-Shaman-regrets-participating-Capitol-riot.html?__twitter_impression=true
Oops! Sorry Bodge!
Oh save your snark for Trump
Especially if this lad’s defence gets repeated across the Country
That should put an end to any notions of a third Political Party
And hopefully sow down donations to the Trump library, golf course and casino