Teenage Vax So Hard To Beat [Updated]

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The Pfizer BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine

This afternoon.

In a joint statement, Pfizer and BioNTech said they had submitted a request with the Amsterdam-based EMA to expand the use of their jab to include “adolescents 12 to 15 years of age”.

Ugur Sahin, co-founder and CEO of Germany’s BioNTech, yesterday said the jab could be available for those age groups from June if EU approval is granted.

Today’s move comes after Phase 3 trial data showed that the vaccine provided “robust antibody responses” and was 100% effective in warding off the disease among those aged 12 to 15.

The vaccine also was generally well tolerated,” the statement added.

After your teen, etc.

Pfizer asks EMA to authorise jab for 12 to 15-year-olds (RTÉ)

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26 thoughts on “Teenage Vax So Hard To Beat [Updated]

  1. Micko

    While we’re talking about specific age groups.

    Now that 60+ are getting the jab, is Michael Martin (60) still gonna do the live one on TV he said he was going to?

    Has he already? Did I miss it ?

  2. Gavin Stokes

    Why do 12 to 15-year-olds even need the jab, I thought they were pretty much immune?

    1. Cui Bono?

      They don’t need it at all. Most of us don’t. IFR for under 70s is only 0.05%.

      The world has gone hysterical.

      1. Oro

        In order to remove the virus from society herd immunity is required. That requires a certain proportion of the population to be vaccinated. If a large enough group of adults decide not to get vaccinated which means the threshold is not achieved – I guess they look at teenagers. Vaccinating teenagers will be the consequences of the actions of those adults that choose to not be vaccinated. I don’t think that anyone that doesn’t want to be vaccinated should be, but I hope this is made clear that vaccinating children will be their responsibility because they chose to be nightmares.

        1. K. Cavan

          Removing Sars02 from society is not even remotely a possibility. It’s the 7th Coronavirus we’ve discovered, four have become endemic, some time in the last couple of thousand years, 2 others Sars01 & Mers, pretty much petered out. This one will become endemic, in fact it’s pretty much endemic now, in most of the world. The main dangers we face now are the effects of lockdown, masks, social distancing & most dangerous of all, the jabs. Children under about 6, perhaps 10, are almost entirely immune, possibly through a combination of Innate & Acquired Immune System responses. No under-17’s have died in Ireland & only 2 people under 25 have. Jabbing them might very well be the biggest medical disaster in history, although it will make the UN happy if millions of them die or become sterile, especially if they’re children in industrialised countries, they’ll have achieved the population reduction & contributed to the carbon emission reductions that they & Bill Gates have repeatedly stated as their biggest aims.

        2. Micko

          Jeasus. That’s some next level scaremongering there Oro

          Get the vax so your kids won’t have to.

          1. Oro

            It’s not scaremongering – I don’t think this ‘fear’ narrative you keep pushing is what it is. This is reality. People want to go back to work, people want lockdown to lift. Vaccines are the way out of that. Herd immunity will not be achieved via the virus moving thru the community – this has been established. The reality of the situation is that a certain amount of people need to be vaccinated that’s the long and short of it. So the situation is as such, don’t get the vaccine if you don’t want to but embrace the repercussions of that, take responsibility for yourself. Lockdown will be longer and the virus will stick around longer.

          2. Micko

            220k people aged 60-69 didn’t register here to get the jab over the last two weeks.

            The numbers who opt out will only be bigger when the younger ages are called for theirs

            And yet, we’re still coming out of lockdown.

            It’s done.

          3. Oro

            You can keep overbearingly saying ‘it’s done’ all you want but just because you say something doesn’t mean it’s true. Maybe with lower vaccine take up it will be sufficient. We shall see. But you can appreciate the reality – vaccines are the way out of this pandemic. Therefore if enough people do not get vaccinated it will not go away. This is about personal and community responsibility. and it’s not ‘fear mongering’ to suggest that people confront the results of their actions (or your inaction in this scenario). And FWIW I remember you & your contingent on here pre Xmas saying the vaccine was gone and not coming back and we all know how that went ;)

          4. K. Cavan

            Oro, how exactly do you think it was established that Herd Immunity does not occur when a virus “moves through the community”? No such idea is even worthy of consideration, it’s nonsense, unscientific nonsense. Every other Coronavirus in history is Endemic, in other words we have Herd Immunity to them, yet no vaccines were ever used, how do you explain that?

          5. Oro

            K – I won’t reply to you sorry because I don’t have the time to wade thru all of the points that you bring up. I’ve seen this style of online argument that mentions a billion different factors all at once and is a wear-down tactic – just wanted to let you know.

            Purely out of interest – are any of the broadsheet anti vax / covid sceptics women? There’s a real bang of MRA off the whole thing.

          6. Micko

            Urrrgh… for the squilliant time

            Not anti-vax, I have practically every other vaccine in me and my kid.

            I am concerned at future problems that might be caused by a vaccine using tech that only had 6 months of human trials and was never released for public use before Dec 2020.

            Hence,, I think giving it to children and anyone wanting to have a child in the future is a bad idea (right now – I might be wrong. But I don’t want to gamble on it)

            Is that really that hard to sympathise with?

            Also, what’s MRA. I googled it but all I got was “ Magnetic resonance angiography”

          7. Oro

            Le sigh. If you’re anti vaccine then you’re anti-vax – we can’t go around making all these different subcategories to account for everyone’s emotional response to this one v others. If it quacks like a duck…. Which is what you’re experiencing, it’s an emotional response that has overwhelmed whatever rational resources you possess.

            I don’t think you (or anyone) should be forced to have a vaccine you don’t want to have FWIW but I would appreciate that people reckon honestly with the repercussions of those choices and assume some intellectual ownership over that- is that asking too much? What I’m hearing is a lot of whinging from people that don’t want a vaccine about not wanting to have to deal with the realities of their decisions.

          8. Hank

            So if you’re sceptical about the potential effects of a vaccine which has undergone very limited testing, that equates to you being anti all vaccines?
            That’s some amazing logic right there!

          9. Micko

            “ If you’re anti (this) vaccine then you’re anti-vax”

            Sorry Oro, but that is the most unscientific rubbish I’ve ever heard.

            In my post above, I admit that yep, I might be wrong. I totally could be.

            This vax might turn out to be the greatest thing ever. mRNA and Adeno tech might lead us down the road of brand new discoveries and cures for cancer, Alzheimer’s and more. It might not though. It could be a disaster.

            Here’s hoping it works out. I just don’t want to test them on my family. Call me selfish.

            But you – you are 100% sure that the vaccine you’ve taken is absolutely the correct decision.

            And that level of certainty is terrifying…

          10. Oro

            Alick has already described that the testing process is not ‘limited’ rather than it has been tested. Something is either approved or it’s not, this is not modifiable.

            Micko I’m not 100% certain, nothing is 100% certain, I am reasonably certain, rationally certain. I can see from the testing that has been carried out and the medical authorities that have been in control of vaccine certification that it is reasonable to assume it is safe, in the same way that I am reasonable certain when taking a painkiller that I’ve never used before that it is safe.

            Speaking of terrifying, you must have a terrible time going around wondering if the coffee you’re about to drink might kill you. Or if the sandwich you ate earlier might control your brain. Because you must apply such paranoia equally to all things non? Otherwise you’d be applying this irrationally only to vaccines right? It’s funny, the anti-vax ppl you claim to have so little in common with also do that.

          11. Micko

            You misunderstand.

            I’m not terrified of the vaccine…

            It’s your zealotry and that of people like you that I’m scared about.

          12. Oro

            You misunderstand, both me and the subject matter. It’s a matter of personal and societal responsibility, shirk it – but take ownership of it that’s all. Nothing like Irish men for dodging responsibility ;)

  3. f_lawless

    “While children and teenagers are less likely to develop severe Covid, they make up a large part of the population and inoculating them is considered key to ending the pandemic.”

    National broadcaster is pushing dangerous anti-science. Need to be held accountable

    1. eoin

      Gotta jab as many as possible to get that cash in before the whole virus fades away. Otherwise they won’t be able to cash in until the next flu season. The pharma giants need a constant flow of cash all year round.

      1. K. Cavan

        I’d assume that the “Second Wave” of Covid was actually the Flu, nobody was testing for it, only looking for tiny pieces of nucleic acid with PCR tests, that could then be reproduced until they looked a bit like a piece of a Coronavirus, they can’t even really determine which Coronavirus with those tests. If it was actually Covid, then history was made & we just witnessed the first virus in history to have multiple “waves” & Gompertz was wrong. No serious Virologist would dare to suggest that he was wrong, however. It’s likely that the next Flu Season will be promoted as another wave of Sars02 & we’ll be jabbing Flu victims with mRNA designed to protect them from the Wrong Virus, which will help the UN in their population reduction aims, so not all bad. It’s not just these jabs our children will be subjected to, Bill Gates will enforce his “Decade of Vaccines” & human beings will pay the price.

        1. Kdoc

          K, Do you not accept that there is a qualitative difference between what we have experienced as colds and flu and the current pandemic? Patients tend to recover from colds and flu within days, Covid-19 appears to take several weeks or longer.
          It’s true that 80% with Covid experience mild or no symptoms; 15% require oxygen (not necessarily in a hospital setting) and 5% require ventilation. Twenty percent of the Covid population becoming seriously ill is not statistically insignificant.
          It’s easy to lose sight of the reason for the Lockdown i.e. the protection of our fragile health service, particularly our limited ICU capacity.
          You previously mentioned that we have no idea what’s coming down the tracks. Do you have some information that you could share?

    2. K. Cavan

      “Severe Covid”, LOL, not satisfied with popularising the brand new Brand Name for Pneumonia, the Legacy Media is now trying to bring in grades for it. Nobody is going to hold RTE to account, they are a law unto themselves, they even have their own dedicated taxation system. Ah, Radio Jellyfish Eireann, they live in a parallel society.

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