‘Absolutely Bananas’ And ‘Completely Bonkers’

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Eamon Ryan in the Dáil at the Convention Centre this afternoon

This afternoon.

Seems to have gone down well.

Earlier…

Earlier…

Meanwhile…

Earlier: Delta Farce

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48 thoughts on “‘Absolutely Bananas’ And ‘Completely Bonkers’

      1. Mr. T

        How does the govt boot taste?

        This goes well beyond a few people looking to get inside their local – this is an indefinite delay to reopening of indoor dining, select indoor events and more – and its all based on some tenuous at best modelling from a group of unelected individuals, who have consistently proven to be wrong.

        We are the only country in Europe to not have indoor dining opened yet, despite being above average in vaccinations administered. It is indefensible.

          1. E'Matty

            @ Daisy – I don’t think anyone wants to engage with you save to perhaps espouse the benefits of euthanasia.

          2. Daisy Chainsaw

            Threatening murder on me now, eh E’Mad? Your angry stalking of me has escalated to a dangerous level.

            Have you tried seeking professional help for your obvious problems?

          3. Hyper real

            Admins am I alone in that I find the persistent bullying of commenters like SOQ and Daisy rather objectionable? Yesterday a commenter even openly said that SOQ’s mental health appeared to be somewhat difficult to evaluate- please can we eradicate this kind of thing? It’s an occasional blight on an otherwise excellent site! This guy General Public for example has reappeared in several guises only to be banned every time.

          4. SOQ

            Hyper real please do not group me with Daisy Chainsaw

            I try to be respectful of other people’s opinions and attempt to have grown up conversations- Daisy Chainsaw on the other hand, does the exact opposite.

          5. Papi

            When your back up is worse than your bullies, Hyper and admins, please take notes.
            Ha!!!!!

    1. SOQ

      A bouncer must have received training and have back ground checks before they can get a license- its the law. There is a limited number of licensed security personnel in the country. There is nowhere near enough to cover this trebling- if not more- of doors to be managed.

      More over, expect a lot of extra friction with punters – if someone refuses to leave, what then? Normal staff are not allowed to act as security and could find themselves up on GBH charges double quick and, if one gets badly injured attempting to do so- the employers liability insurance will not cover it.

      There is guaranteed to be legal challenges to this from a number of different directions- it is an absolute mess, and the last thing people trying to get their small independent businesses back up and running need.

      Incompetence doesn’t even begin to describe it.

  1. Junkface

    I think they should get some advice from Denmark or something. They really messed this up. Maybe they would try harder if all of their pay was cut for a few months, they would see how important it is to allow people to earn money again.

        1. Rosette of Sirius

          I had possibly the best cassoulet I have ever eaten a couple of years back at a spot called Le Violon d’Ingres in Paris.

          The perfect bean-feast for the Irish politician.

          1. Hyper real

            Too warm for that now surely? Winter
            Food? I have a load of sausage I’ve cooked though and probably won’t eat otherwise- can I improvise with that?

  2. goldenbrown

    Broadsheet, can ye post Varadkers “Herd Immunity” threat from earlier today please??

    we’re being played for fools here bigtime

  3. Andrew

    NPHET have reminded the government that our health service is still shyte and would not be able to cope with an uptick in case numbers, it just would not. We are an outlier in Europe because our health service is no better now than it was before all of this started.
    We have a government of PR men and women and the tweeting head of the HSE is not in any way capable or experienced in public health despite being paid twice that of the head of the NHS.
    All of this is related and relevant. Keep appointing and promoting incompetents and this is what happens.
    Snouts in the trough and to hell with the consequences.

      1. Janet, dreams of an alternate universe

        not nothing, many livelihoods ruined, wemon and children battered, mental health shattered, sick untreated…but hey bike lanes

  4. f_lawless

    And what is Sinn Fein’s take on this? Maybe that NPHET’s proposals are absolutely outrageous and should have no place in our liberal democratic society? No. Sinn Féin health spokesperson, David Cullinane just wants to see more details of how the medical apartheid will work in practice before the party decides to back it. This aint no ‘party of the people’!

    https://www.thejournal.ie/indoor-hospitality-leaders-questions-5480688-Jun2021/

    ‘Sinn Féin’s health spokesperson David Cullinane said the Taoiseach today announced that they government has no plan, stating that this comes down to leadership and planning.

    He said he wants to be briefed by NPHET and see the plan from government before he would state whether his party backs the idea of only allowing fully vaccinated people to dine indoors and enjoy other indoor activities.

    “..If it is not workable, then there’s a problem and the government have to demonstrate how its going to work,” said Cullinane.’

    1. Nigel

      is Sinn Fein’s take that the government is being controlled by a shadowy unelected council of radicals?

      *runs away*

      1. f_lawless

        Ok if you ever decide to come back for a grown-up conversation, I’ll be here
        *waves goodbye into the distance*

  5. MoRhustyDilis

    Radio silence from Sinn Fein as per usual. Not a party of opposition, rather a part of.
    Also Mary Lous sister is a lead in one of the pharmaceutical companies rolling out the vaccine. So why would they say a word?
    Once the wind of public opinion changes enough for them to jump on the bandwagon they will. Their effort at optics voting against the last COVID law extension was for show, their absent members would have helped it not being extended. All prearranged and agreed, all for show, very little different from FFG.

  6. Micko

    I don’t like Alan Kelly.

    But he’s dead right. This is discrimination. And in Ireland we don’t do discrimination, especially from the state.

    Anyone supporting this has something wrong with them.

    1. Nigel

      ‘This is discrimination. And in Ireland we don’t do discrimination, ‘

      To take your second point first – haha.
      To take your first point second – no. It may be unfeasible, it may even be bananas, but it is not discrimination, it is a public health measure.

      1. Micko

        So young unvaccinated people who have already sacrificed so much, are now asked to work in an environment that is deemed “to only be safe if you are vaccinated”

        And on top of that you can work as a “servant class”, waiting on us, but you can’t sit at our table and eat with us.

        Jesus. And that’s not medical discrimination? Come off it

        I might point out as a #covidsurvivor I fall into the category that can dine indoors, so I have no gripe there.

        This comes from worry about the road we’re heading down.

        You are way off on this one Nigel. You should just shut up now.

        1. Nigel

          Nah, most of that’s incompetence, not discrimination, which is why it’s proabably unfeasible, and definitely unpopular. Service workers SHOULD have been prioritised. You shut up.

          1. Micko

            Right so, discriminatory practices, if deemed incompetent are somehow not discriminatory.

            That’s some logic there.

            Try that one in court and see how ya get on.

          2. Nigel

            No, public health measures, if executed with incompeltence, look stupid. There us no discrimination, and the only victims are the people who haven’t been given vaccines yet.

          3. Micko

            “ the only victims are the people who haven’t been given vaccines yet.”

            And those who can’t be vaccinated of course there Nidgey. ;)

            Remember when you used to pretend to care about them.

            Not so much now eh?

          4. Nigel

            We have three categories here. People who can’t be vaccianted. People who haven’t been offered vaccination yet. People who refuse to be vaccinated. The first two categories deserve sympathy, support, consideration and protection. The latter category, not so much. The first two categories shoud be as inconvenienced as little as possible by any policies. The latter category made their choice, they can live with it.

          5. Nigel

            I’m granting you the freedom to choose, that’s hardly fash. Demanding the choice and to be insulated from the consequences no matter what the costs to others? Now that’s fash.

  7. SOQ

    And so- let me see if I have this straight.

    The person refusing you access can be unvaccinated.

    The person serving you can be unvaccinated.

    The entire staff of a pub or restaurant can be unvaccinated, and the only people who MUST be vaccinated- are those spending their money.

    This is a whole new level of stupid- are they deliberately trying to bankrupt these businesses? Why is the government allowing this madness?

  8. SB

    Well, what’s the alternative? Stay shut until everyone’s vaccinated – December? I don’t understand why restaurants & bars wouldn’t take 40%-and-rising-rapidly business right now. “Are they trying to bankrupt these businesses”? Surely the complete opposite – trying to let them open up.

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