President Higgins visits Gramsci’s grave in Rome. Other matters will be discussed with the Pope.
ce
I’d say the DUP suspect a popish plot… and since this pope is a closet Marxist too… a perfect storm…finally the plan reveals itself…
Gabby
and President Higgins may speak Spanish during his meeting with the Argentine Pope. Gramsci was Italian. The Pope is Argentinian, Spanish speaking and a Jesuit. President Higgins is also fluent in Irish. His Northern Ireland critics could be at a loss for words.
ce
As the great philosopher Miley once said – “Well Holy God!”
tom2
Mother and daughter who worked in care dead from covid. Unvaccinated of course.
Are you going to take responsibility for deaths like this?
hmmm
Baby dead after acquiring toxins through his mothers breast milk. She was vaccinated of course.
Are you going to take responsibility for deaths like this?
Mr.T
Its their choice, they are entitled to make it.
Why should anyone take responsibility for the choices of others? (Unless of course they were coerced)
Also fyi, an unvaccinated 40 something has the same risk of covid death as a vaccinated 60 something. So with that in mind, should we be cocooning 60+ year olds so that they dont risk dying from covid?
tom2
Spreading misinformation on a continuous basis using what little credibility this site has to create hesitancy in people who should be listening to the professionals.
Blood on his hands.
hmmm
We should listen to the Professional Liars pushing experimental vaccines into children now?
Why should we listen to you about listening to them?
You’re a merchant of fear crying foul because some people have the audacity to think for themselves.
just millie
We should all listen to Professional Liars pushing a conspiratorial and unproven narrative to support their anti-vaccine stance instead, is that it?
Why should we listen to you?
You’re an anonymous avatar pushing your opinion as fact, hiding under the guise of being an ‘independent thinker’.
So where’s all the dead people? 40000 dead the promised in Ireland, one in every family, bodies in the street, hospital overflowing de blah de blah blah balh.
Any evidence for any of that tom2?
#WORSTPANDEMICEVA
Cian
So where’s all the dead people? 40000 dead the promised in Ireland, one in every family, bodies in the street, hospital overflowing de blah de blah blah balh.
Yeah. If we did NOTHING there would have been a lot more dead.
But guess what? We did loads of stuff to reduce the potential death toll.
hmmm
Remind us again Cian, what’s the infection fatality rate for the COVID?
Charlie
It’s Groundhog Day at the GPO school of early learning.
Charlie
Ah Dunce. Good morning! How are things going down at IQ test centre?
@hmmm Remind us again Cian, what’s the infection fatality rate for the COVID?
I don’t know the rate (and it depends on age). Peru has had 5x the number of deaths per capita we have had; If we were as bad as that we would have 25,000+ deaths and counting.
Hungary, Bulgaria, and Czechia are at x3 times our rate.
UK, USA are at x2 our rate,
Cian
@Kdoc
according to this (albeit a random twitter) that poor man was re-admitted to hospital via ambulance the following day.
Cian doesn’t know the IFR of COVID in Ireland but can claim with confidence that everybody else has multiples of the Irish death rate.
Riiight…
Pixi-headed maths for the win!
Tom J
Why don’t you tell us so?
Cian
@Kdoc
*nobody* know the IFR because nobody know exactly how many people have been infected.
But if you want to go on global numbers:
Infected: 227,909,513 (positive tests)
Died: 4,685,679
IFR: 2%
For Ireland 371,301 Vs 5,179 = 1.4%
Charlie
That’s far too much info for him Cian. It doesn’t suit his agenda, the answer is not on his list and therefore it’s null and void.
Man On Fire
But there is no info bitty, just random tripe as is the norm with chancers..
Micko
That’s the CFR Cian not the IFR.
As in, if you had two patients and one died – the Case Fatality Rate would be 50%.
But you know that.
Interestingly on Worldometer the CFR is just about to drop under 2%. It was around 4% – 5% when this thing started. It’s currently at 2.05%
So that’s some good news.
So when the CFR becomes about 1%, we know that the actual IFR is a tiny fraction of that.
E'Matty
and the WHO have stated they believe the actual infection rate is as high as ten times the recorded figure so the actual CFR and IFRs are minute, and certainly not the 1.4-2% being banided around by the Covid fanatics on here. And that is taking the death count at face value which we know we can’t given the additiona of those hwo died with Covid along with those who have actually died from Covid. They’ve been completely conned on the figures since day one. In a real pandemic, there is no need to cook and exaggerate the figures as they have been doing all along. One big con job and manipulation of public perception this has always been.
Charlie
“In a real pandemic…”. Ye couldn’t make this up.
SOQ
@ Cian- In addition to the highest deaths per million, Peru had the harshest and longest lockdown in the world- something you conveniently omit to mention.
GiggidyGoo
Cian –
Deflect
Distract
Divert
Disengage
Charlie
Giggidy-
Harrumph
Harrumph
Harrumph
Nigel
‘And that is taking the death count at face value which we know we can’t’
Because of the strong likelihood that deaths have been underreported. But let’s also take into account the number of people who didn’t die but had to go on ventilators (I think it’s safe to say that they probably would have died without them) which is not trivial, the number of people who didn’t go on ventilators but had to go into an ICU, again, not trivial, and the number of people suffering long term injuries and illnesses after recovering from a covid infection. All of that hiding behind ‘small’ or ‘minute’ CFR and IFR figures. If we’re talking about cooking figures and trying to manipulate perceptions.
Let’s also take into account the toll taken and the enormous strain placed on frontline healthcare workers, aside even from their covid-related injury and mortality rate. Let’s also take into accunt the fears of people in vulnerable age groups, the fears of people with disabilities and the fears of the immunocompromised whose concerns are rendered invisible by the dismissal of covid as a serious illness. All these things vanish into insignificance behind the teeny tiny CFR and IFR figures which you like to play as a trump card as if those figures don’t represent appalling human suffering.
hmmm
0.1% Nigel…
Your pandemic is a bust.
Nigel
People whining that 0.1% was nothing before 4.6 million people died was one thing, but after…?
Cian
@E’Matty and the WHO have stated they believe the actual infection rate is as high as ten times the recorded figure so the actual CFR and IFRs are minute
List of countries showing % of total population infected:
None of these could have “ten times” more people infected:
Montenegro 19.82%
Andorra 19.52%
Czechia 15.70%
Bahrain 15.46%
Maldives 15.08%
Georgia 14.87%
Slovenia 13.55%
Israel 12.96%
USA 12.79%
Luxembourg 12.08%
Lithuania 11.72%
Netherlands 11.52%
Argentina 11.46%
Sweden 11.24%
Estonia 11.22%
Uruguay 11.10%
UK 10.74%
France 10.60%
Panama 10.54%
Spain 10.53%
Belgium 10.45%
Portugal 10.43%
And these of these would need practically *everyone* to have been infected if your “high as ten times” were true
Brazil 9.83%
Costa Rica 9.75%
Serbia 9.73%
Colombia 9.58%
Cyprus 9.56%
Croatia 9.56%
Kuwait 9.46%
Switzerland 9.40%
Lebanon 9.08%
North Macedonia 8.90%
FYI the total population of these countries is about one billion.
GiggidyGoo
Ah bless Charlie. Bitty
Nigel
‘FYI the total population of these countries is about one billion.’
And hey, 0.1% of one billion would be TEENY.
E'Matty
@ Nigel – “‘FYI the total population of these countries is about one billion.’
And hey, 0.1% of one billion would be TEENY.” There you go again playing silly with the figures. Is anyone else claiming 100% of the population would be infected? I think not. The figures have been completely distorted from day one to inflate the numbers and induce terror by including those with Covid, where it may have played no role whatsoever in the death, as a Covid death.
Nigel
‘Is anyone else claiming 100% of the population would be infected?’
‘@E’Matty: and the WHO have stated they believe the actual infection rate is as high as ten times the recorded figure so the actual CFR and IFRs are minute’
‘List of countries showing % of total population infected:
None of these could have “ten times” more people infected:’
Your own sense of the numbers involved is all over the place.
Kdoc
The elderly man in the video above is clearly struggling for breath and seems to be bullied from the hospital by an imported Italian fascist who seems to be an ally of Dolores Cahill. I understand the gentleman’s condition deteriorated and he had to return to the hospital. This is elderly abuse and this is what many anti vaxxers are supporting.
Man On Fire
Rando twitter said so, must be true init
tom2
That italian fascist is a real scumbag. The old guy is actually not that old (covid makes you look wrecked) and is himself a fascist that hangs around Ben Gilroy.
I don’t care where yis all are with anti vax v pro vax
but splashing that family tragedy across a front page is disgusting
mainly because their choices are fundamentally private medical information
no two ways about it
and to make it a front page splash
with an unmistakable nah nah na na nah tone is not news reporting
Its not journalism
it is vile and one of the most wicked opportunistic gotchas you’re ever likely to see
And it has all the characteristics of an underhand cynical advertorial
It is nobodies business what medical choices they made
It is a family tragedy at the hands of a virus that couldn’t care less about the decisions these two ladies made
If Bodger is going to be 100% authentic about their own mission
The Daily Mail would be put on the naughty step permanently
and removed from the daily papers roster
Cian
Newspapers thrive on tragedy. Most papers “splash family tragedy across the front page” on a daily basis.
The Herald is wallowing in the drop in burglaries since 3 prolific criminals died in a road blaze. How that different?
going at it now this afternoon
too wet for 9 holes
just now trying to decide if I’ll do a Rebel Velvet Traybake or a Crummy Traybake to keep me company
feckin Swiss Roll put the goo on me
Janet, dreams of an alternate universe
it’s definitely a day for baking
goldenbrown
great I’ll watch it (again) with ya
it’s a fairly dank afternoons weather here too
I’m heading down the town now to pick up a Viennese finger to have with the pot of tea at half time (it’s heading for 2 hrs long just to warn u)
btw their version of the finger is almost completely covered….dipped into the chocolate each end as it’s supposed to be but bet well into it so you can barely see any sign of the shortbread atall…a very good idea imho!
here
75g Butter (used salted), 25g Icing sugar,
75g Plain Flour sieved
¼ tsp Baking Power
250 gms Dark Choc (or whatever chocolate you want really)
Oven 190º, grease baking tray – I use parchment myself, up to you
Cream the Butter & Sugar, must be baby chick pale yellow and just a fluffy, use a mixer
Add the flour
Use a piping bag, plus whatever nozzle you fancy
or a strong freezer bag, snip the corner off; all you have to do is cover it in chocolate anyway
15-16 mins depending on your oven
onto a cooling fray
don’t touch until they cold as they are still very brittle
you know what to do with the chocolate (just in case, melt gently in a bowl over a pan of water, whisk to keep it smooth and runny, and the air out)
there you go
barely 15 mins work
and 30 mins wait
just millie
Another great recipe, V.
Really looking forward to Bakesheet this year, have to say.
TheSampsons
The situation with those burglars made my blood boil from start to finish, from the sheer number of convictions they had accrued, to the fear and misery they spread to those who’s homes they violated, often violently, to the absolute disregard of other drivers safety as they sped up the wrong side of a motorway, and then there was their funeral…..
The Taxman Cometh
You have been warned.
GiggidyGoo
I see some UK politicians want to revert to Pounds, Shilling and Pence. No doubt that’ll be music to some FGers here as, whatever about Pounds and Pence, the Shilling is top priority.
Rembrandt: what doesn’t lie beneath.
President Higgins visits Gramsci’s grave in Rome. Other matters will be discussed with the Pope.
I’d say the DUP suspect a popish plot… and since this pope is a closet Marxist too… a perfect storm…finally the plan reveals itself…
and President Higgins may speak Spanish during his meeting with the Argentine Pope. Gramsci was Italian. The Pope is Argentinian, Spanish speaking and a Jesuit. President Higgins is also fluent in Irish. His Northern Ireland critics could be at a loss for words.
As the great philosopher Miley once said – “Well Holy God!”
Mother and daughter who worked in care dead from covid. Unvaccinated of course.
Are you going to take responsibility for deaths like this?
Baby dead after acquiring toxins through his mothers breast milk. She was vaccinated of course.
Are you going to take responsibility for deaths like this?
Its their choice, they are entitled to make it.
Why should anyone take responsibility for the choices of others? (Unless of course they were coerced)
Also fyi, an unvaccinated 40 something has the same risk of covid death as a vaccinated 60 something. So with that in mind, should we be cocooning 60+ year olds so that they dont risk dying from covid?
Spreading misinformation on a continuous basis using what little credibility this site has to create hesitancy in people who should be listening to the professionals.
Blood on his hands.
We should listen to the Professional Liars pushing experimental vaccines into children now?
Why should we listen to you about listening to them?
You’re a merchant of fear crying foul because some people have the audacity to think for themselves.
We should all listen to Professional Liars pushing a conspiratorial and unproven narrative to support their anti-vaccine stance instead, is that it?
Why should we listen to you?
You’re an anonymous avatar pushing your opinion as fact, hiding under the guise of being an ‘independent thinker’.
This argument works both ways, unfortunately.
A merchant of fear? You do realise there is a pandemic and people are dying all around us? I’m not inventing fear.
https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/coronavirus-excess-deaths-tracker
I’m sure you’ll say the economist are a “mouthpiece for the elite” or some crap similar.
There’s Pandemic you say?
So where’s all the dead people? 40000 dead the promised in Ireland, one in every family, bodies in the street, hospital overflowing de blah de blah blah balh.
Any evidence for any of that tom2?
#WORSTPANDEMICEVA
So where’s all the dead people? 40000 dead the promised in Ireland, one in every family, bodies in the street, hospital overflowing de blah de blah blah balh.
Yeah. If we did NOTHING there would have been a lot more dead.
But guess what? We did loads of stuff to reduce the potential death toll.
Remind us again Cian, what’s the infection fatality rate for the COVID?
It’s Groundhog Day at the GPO school of early learning.
Ah Dunce. Good morning! How are things going down at IQ test centre?
There are very few actions in life more disgusting than this:
https://rumble.com/vmi3xf-world-news-breaking-news-common-law-working-against-tyranny-and-corporation.html
@hmmm
Remind us again Cian, what’s the infection fatality rate for the COVID?
I don’t know the rate (and it depends on age). Peru has had 5x the number of deaths per capita we have had; If we were as bad as that we would have 25,000+ deaths and counting.
Hungary, Bulgaria, and Czechia are at x3 times our rate.
UK, USA are at x2 our rate,
@Kdoc
according to this (albeit a random twitter) that poor man was re-admitted to hospital via ambulance the following day.
https://twitter.com/TheBeaconIrl/status/1438476509925183489
Rando twitter said so, must be true init
Cian doesn’t know the IFR of COVID in Ireland but can claim with confidence that everybody else has multiples of the Irish death rate.
Riiight…
Pixi-headed maths for the win!
Why don’t you tell us so?
@Kdoc
*nobody* know the IFR because nobody know exactly how many people have been infected.
But if you want to go on global numbers:
Infected: 227,909,513 (positive tests)
Died: 4,685,679
IFR: 2%
For Ireland 371,301 Vs 5,179 = 1.4%
That’s far too much info for him Cian. It doesn’t suit his agenda, the answer is not on his list and therefore it’s null and void.
But there is no info bitty, just random tripe as is the norm with chancers..
That’s the CFR Cian not the IFR.
As in, if you had two patients and one died – the Case Fatality Rate would be 50%.
But you know that.
Interestingly on Worldometer the CFR is just about to drop under 2%. It was around 4% – 5% when this thing started. It’s currently at 2.05%
So that’s some good news.
So when the CFR becomes about 1%, we know that the actual IFR is a tiny fraction of that.
and the WHO have stated they believe the actual infection rate is as high as ten times the recorded figure so the actual CFR and IFRs are minute, and certainly not the 1.4-2% being banided around by the Covid fanatics on here. And that is taking the death count at face value which we know we can’t given the additiona of those hwo died with Covid along with those who have actually died from Covid. They’ve been completely conned on the figures since day one. In a real pandemic, there is no need to cook and exaggerate the figures as they have been doing all along. One big con job and manipulation of public perception this has always been.
“In a real pandemic…”. Ye couldn’t make this up.
@ Cian- In addition to the highest deaths per million, Peru had the harshest and longest lockdown in the world- something you conveniently omit to mention.
Cian –
Deflect
Distract
Divert
Disengage
Giggidy-
Harrumph
Harrumph
Harrumph
‘And that is taking the death count at face value which we know we can’t’
Because of the strong likelihood that deaths have been underreported. But let’s also take into account the number of people who didn’t die but had to go on ventilators (I think it’s safe to say that they probably would have died without them) which is not trivial, the number of people who didn’t go on ventilators but had to go into an ICU, again, not trivial, and the number of people suffering long term injuries and illnesses after recovering from a covid infection. All of that hiding behind ‘small’ or ‘minute’ CFR and IFR figures. If we’re talking about cooking figures and trying to manipulate perceptions.
Let’s also take into account the toll taken and the enormous strain placed on frontline healthcare workers, aside even from their covid-related injury and mortality rate. Let’s also take into accunt the fears of people in vulnerable age groups, the fears of people with disabilities and the fears of the immunocompromised whose concerns are rendered invisible by the dismissal of covid as a serious illness. All these things vanish into insignificance behind the teeny tiny CFR and IFR figures which you like to play as a trump card as if those figures don’t represent appalling human suffering.
0.1% Nigel…
Your pandemic is a bust.
People whining that 0.1% was nothing before 4.6 million people died was one thing, but after…?
@E’Matty
and the WHO have stated they believe the actual infection rate is as high as ten times the recorded figure so the actual CFR and IFRs are minute
List of countries showing % of total population infected:
None of these could have “ten times” more people infected:
Montenegro 19.82%
Andorra 19.52%
Czechia 15.70%
Bahrain 15.46%
Maldives 15.08%
Georgia 14.87%
Slovenia 13.55%
Israel 12.96%
USA 12.79%
Luxembourg 12.08%
Lithuania 11.72%
Netherlands 11.52%
Argentina 11.46%
Sweden 11.24%
Estonia 11.22%
Uruguay 11.10%
UK 10.74%
France 10.60%
Panama 10.54%
Spain 10.53%
Belgium 10.45%
Portugal 10.43%
And these of these would need practically *everyone* to have been infected if your “high as ten times” were true
Brazil 9.83%
Costa Rica 9.75%
Serbia 9.73%
Colombia 9.58%
Cyprus 9.56%
Croatia 9.56%
Kuwait 9.46%
Switzerland 9.40%
Lebanon 9.08%
North Macedonia 8.90%
FYI the total population of these countries is about one billion.
Ah bless Charlie. Bitty
‘FYI the total population of these countries is about one billion.’
And hey, 0.1% of one billion would be TEENY.
@ Nigel – “‘FYI the total population of these countries is about one billion.’
And hey, 0.1% of one billion would be TEENY.” There you go again playing silly with the figures. Is anyone else claiming 100% of the population would be infected? I think not. The figures have been completely distorted from day one to inflate the numbers and induce terror by including those with Covid, where it may have played no role whatsoever in the death, as a Covid death.
‘Is anyone else claiming 100% of the population would be infected?’
‘@E’Matty: and the WHO have stated they believe the actual infection rate is as high as ten times the recorded figure so the actual CFR and IFRs are minute’
‘List of countries showing % of total population infected:
None of these could have “ten times” more people infected:’
Your own sense of the numbers involved is all over the place.
The elderly man in the video above is clearly struggling for breath and seems to be bullied from the hospital by an imported Italian fascist who seems to be an ally of Dolores Cahill. I understand the gentleman’s condition deteriorated and he had to return to the hospital. This is elderly abuse and this is what many anti vaxxers are supporting.
Rando twitter said so, must be true init
That italian fascist is a real scumbag. The old guy is actually not that old (covid makes you look wrecked) and is himself a fascist that hangs around Ben Gilroy.
You know what T2
I don’t care where yis all are with anti vax v pro vax
but splashing that family tragedy across a front page is disgusting
mainly because their choices are fundamentally private medical information
no two ways about it
and to make it a front page splash
with an unmistakable nah nah na na nah tone is not news reporting
Its not journalism
it is vile and one of the most wicked opportunistic gotchas you’re ever likely to see
And it has all the characteristics of an underhand cynical advertorial
It is nobodies business what medical choices they made
It is a family tragedy at the hands of a virus that couldn’t care less about the decisions these two ladies made
If Bodger is going to be 100% authentic about their own mission
The Daily Mail would be put on the naughty step permanently
and removed from the daily papers roster
Newspapers thrive on tragedy. Most papers “splash family tragedy across the front page” on a daily basis.
The Herald is wallowing in the drop in burglaries since 3 prolific criminals died in a road blaze. How that different?
The Mail are making a story out of the deceased Medical Records
Indo too
well said V
+1
did any of ye get to watch that drama “Help” on C4 last night?
I think it may well be one of the best tv dramas I’ve ever watched
I also kept imagining the parallels to our own C19 care home disasters which seem almost forgotten about now
oh must stream
going at it now this afternoon
too wet for 9 holes
just now trying to decide if I’ll do a Rebel Velvet Traybake or a Crummy Traybake to keep me company
feckin Swiss Roll put the goo on me
it’s definitely a day for baking
great I’ll watch it (again) with ya
it’s a fairly dank afternoons weather here too
I’m heading down the town now to pick up a Viennese finger to have with the pot of tea at half time (it’s heading for 2 hrs long just to warn u)
btw their version of the finger is almost completely covered….dipped into the chocolate each end as it’s supposed to be but bet well into it so you can barely see any sign of the shortbread atall…a very good idea imho!
f’n make em
those shop bought ones are riddled with sugars
here
75g Butter (used salted), 25g Icing sugar,
75g Plain Flour sieved
¼ tsp Baking Power
250 gms Dark Choc (or whatever chocolate you want really)
Oven 190º, grease baking tray – I use parchment myself, up to you
Cream the Butter & Sugar, must be baby chick pale yellow and just a fluffy, use a mixer
Add the flour
Use a piping bag, plus whatever nozzle you fancy
or a strong freezer bag, snip the corner off; all you have to do is cover it in chocolate anyway
15-16 mins depending on your oven
onto a cooling fray
don’t touch until they cold as they are still very brittle
you know what to do with the chocolate (just in case, melt gently in a bowl over a pan of water, whisk to keep it smooth and runny, and the air out)
there you go
barely 15 mins work
and 30 mins wait
Another great recipe, V.
Really looking forward to Bakesheet this year, have to say.
The situation with those burglars made my blood boil from start to finish, from the sheer number of convictions they had accrued, to the fear and misery they spread to those who’s homes they violated, often violently, to the absolute disregard of other drivers safety as they sped up the wrong side of a motorway, and then there was their funeral…..
You have been warned.
I see some UK politicians want to revert to Pounds, Shilling and Pence. No doubt that’ll be music to some FGers here as, whatever about Pounds and Pence, the Shilling is top priority.
Some Poetry news
https://twitter.com/PresWex/status/1438848471629451270?s=19