Minister for the Environment, Climate and Communications and Minister for Transport Eamon Ryan
This morning.
Further to Eamon Ryan’s ‘false positive’…
Via The Irish Times:
Mr Ryan said he got his first PCR Covid test from the National Ambulance Service (NAS) – which has been carrying out the tests for ministers who are to travel abroad – on Friday morning and it came back with a positive result on Saturday.
He said he went home and worked on contact tracing of people he had seen in recent days including Taoiseach Micheál Martin, Tánaiste Leo Varadkar and secretary general to the government Martin Fraser.
He said his private secretary was later contacted by the HSE to say the results of the test had actually been “inconclusive”.
Mr Ryan said it is his understanding it is “standard” to have a second test in such circumstances, particularly where the person did not have symptoms and were not a close contact. He got the test that evening and it came back on Sunday as “completely negative”.
Mr Ryan said: “I just followed medical advice right the way through all of this”. He said the advice he got after the second test was to “go about your business as normal” so he announced that the trip was back on.
Asked if he had sought the second test he said: “I didn’t have any direct involvement” and his understanding is the suggestion came from the NAS which had contacted his private secretary “rather than from any approach by myself.”
Seems legit.
Ryan says he did not seek second Covid test that allowed him to travel to Cop26 (Irish Times)
Yesterday: Unrepeatable
What a liar
What on earth does he have to gain by lying about this?
I know right. It’s not as though the government has based all of it’s restrictions over the past 18 months on the exact testing system that he’s taking about and so they’d have absolutely no reason to want to quell any notion that false positive results were perhaps skewing the numbers all along..
+1
He want to go to COP and get the back slaps. He didn’t want to miss it so he lied about his test.
Ah Lilly come on now.
So you think he would be quite happy to waltz off to the gig knowing he has Covid and risk giving it to someone else? Japers, that’s bleak. And would the HSE be prepared to turn a blind eye to this, while phoning the rest of us with orders to self-isolate for 10 day’s and not even go for a walk?
*days – bloody autocorrect
Incredibly fishy – how many times have the HSE reached out to people to say a test was inconclusive after previously saying it was positive? Also fishy the way he inserts his private secretary into the middle of it all so that he is at one remove from everything and can be suitably vague.
he’s thrown the secretary and the entire HSE out on front of himself here for cover. literally no one has been contacted by the HSE and given a second test. He just really wanted to go to the big climate event with all the world leaders and do a few huffing and puffing speeches, shake hands and get in photos. Now he’s doing the classic politician response, blame it on someone else, say you followed official advice, then have the authorities change the rules afterwards.
They do say inconclusive at times if they were unable to test the sample correctly (or it got lost), however they will not tell you first it was positive. That is not the standard procedure at all, and its very unusual for this to happen.
More to this I think
Agreed. While you can get an “indeterminate, invalid or inhibitory result” I don’t understand how it would be initially provided as “positive” and then rolled back to inconclusive…
very fishy
https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/covid19/testing/indeterminate-test/
That picture of him is excellent too.
Look…
if you stare hard enough, you can almost hear his saying “that money was just resting in my account”.
“his private secretary was later contacted by the HSE”
Define “Later”
So he got the positive result on a Saturday, went home. His secretary and publicist then immediately drafted and sent a press release. That had to be signed off I assume by Eamonn. That release was then sent our informing everyone (again – on a Saturday) in the media of his positive status and him cancelling his trip. Then his secretary got a message (later that day) that his test was inconclusive.
He was then back in for a test the same day.
Seems like a LOT to happen in a pretty short amount of time… Maybe, if it happened really early in the morning.
Wait – I forgot.
I don’t care, coz they are stupid feckin rules that I don’t follow either
Well done Eamon. ;-)
*cough* bullplop *cough*
Greebag.
What a load of rubbish Eamonn. Where was the 2nd test done by the way and what is the name of your contact in the HSE?
Interesting to compare the HSE’s updated guidance on indeterminate PCR test results. Another case of adapting the guidance to fit with the actions of politicians?
https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/covid19/testing/indeterminate-test/
“(Last updated: 4 November 2021 at 9.50am)”
“Indeterminate, invalid or inhibitory PCR COVID-19 test result
A test sample for COVID-19 (coronavirus) may not always give a clear result. This is called an indeterminate, invalid or inhibitory result. It means that the test could not detect if you have COVID-19.
If you get this result, you will get a text message with a link to book a COVID-19 PCR test.”
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In an older, archived version of the page, there’s no mention of getting a text message about the indeterminate results with a link to book a new test
https://web.archive.org/web/20210827143549/https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/covid19/testing/indeterminate-test/
“Indeterminate, invalid or inhibitory PCR COVID-19 test result
Sometimes a test sample may not give a clear result. This is called an indeterminate result. An indeterminate result means that the lab cannot tell for sure if you have COVID-19 (coronavirus) or not.
Sometimes the lab will be unable to get any result when they test your sample. This is called an invalid or inhibitory result.
Indeterminate, invalid or inhibitory results are not common.”
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Lower down on the old version of the page there’s a section about what to do “If you have no symptoms, are a close contact and get an indeterminate, invalid or inhibitory result”
The advice is to “continue to restrict your movements for 14 days.”
But this has been deleted entirely from the latest version. Why so I wonder?
you “missed” the following paragraph:
Phone your GP and ask them if you need to be tested again. Tell them that you were tested because you are a close contact but the result came back as indeterminate, invalid or inhibitory. It will depend on how long it has been since your last contact with the confirmed case and if you have developed any symptoms.
Asked if he had sought the second test he said: “I didn’t have any direct involvement” and his understanding is the suggestion came from the NAS which had contacted his private secretary “rather than from any approach by myself.”
“You have to keep your vision clear, cause only a coward lives in fear”.
NAS
Sure it’s alright. Didn’t the AG say so? Or?