Last night.
CC writes:
OK, enough is enough. I was in my favourite local takeaway. These guys came in twice without masks. No bleeding effort at all and when I made my discomfort known to them, they chased me down the street shouting at me. How, when everyone else is making an effort to keep everyone else safe, can this happen? Who do they work for? The level of aggression scared me.
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If masks work, put yours on and mind your own business. Problem solved.
hmmmm… you’re not the brightest tool in the shed, are you?
Liar. It’s clear from the picture that they were each wearing large rectangular masks covering not only their mouths and noses but even their eyes. These guys were being extra cautious.
Hehehehehehe
haha lols. Laughing at someone having a traumatic experience.
Agreed- those poor fellas would have been traumatised after being screamed at by a mask Nazi.
Will the traumolympics be on the tele?
Your vaccine protects you – if thats not enough for you then simply dont leave home
Masking protects people who are not in your immediate vicinity as well as those in your vicinity…. protecting the vulnerable and all that…. or we could just lock the vulnerable up so we can get on with our lives… a bit like how we did the whole workhouse or laundry thing…
… feel free to continue acting like selfish children, it seems to be working out just fine…
PS. Really enjoyed the anti-ventilation/filter discussion the other day… all that researching is finally paying off…
Yes- and lets bring moving statues back while we are at it.
According to the overwhelming majority of good scientific studies (including RCTs) masks do very little or nothing at all. Even a simple observation of countries that have high mask wearing vs those that don’t, you can see they do nothing.
Surgeons wear them when operating on open wounds to stop bacterial infection. They never wore them for cold or flu viruses.
Stop denying reality.
How exactly do you do a RCT on masks?
Some countries wear them, some don’t- in this case the control group was Sweden.
So it is neither Random, Controlled, or a Trial. Gotcha.
Interesting how the highest standards must be applied to one side- but not the other eh?
@SOQ
Hypocrite.
Have you acknowledged what % of the Israel population have had at least 2 vaccine doses yet?
Yes I am the Hypocrite- I am the one paid to spin the official narrative- oh no wait….
Typical SOQ
When cornered you either disappear or go ad hominem
Come on Cian, stop asking stupid questions.
Stop making stupid statements then
The one RTC on masks show they are effective.
https://www.poverty-action.org/news/new-study-first-randomized-trial-show-wearing-masks-reduces-covid-19-real-world-setting.
“they chased me down the street shouting at me.”
@CC
I assume the takeaway has CCTV. Why not contact the Guards and have the men charged with assault?
Regardless of someone’s opinion, no one should be being chased down the street in fear.
+ 1.
why on earth would you approach another customer about wearing a mask unless you wanted to be told to F off? you say it to a staff member who has the authority to do something about it, or not.
since when are shop staff authorities to take action on anything besides selling you stuff? perfectly reasonable to request someone in a public setting to follow the social rules…
And if you do, don’t be surprised if you receive a similar response to the Covid Karen in the story above.
Anyone tries to intimidate me or bully me will get a shock! I won’t be intimidated! If they won’t wear their mask, I’ll ask politely at first…
By such an action it is you who would be doing the intimidating and bullying- so be prepared for an equally aggressive response.
You have no right to demand anyone wears a mask-only the management can do that. And, if they in turn do not want to ask people, or just don’t agree with the wearing of masks- then you can always leave.
Ask politely. I’ll still tell you where to shove your face nappy. What then? You’ll throw a little Covid Karen temper tantrum and I’ll just carry on.
because THE MANAGEMENT HAS THE RIGHT TO REFUSE ADMISSION.
it says so, you know, in the shop itself..
And then staff members get threatened and abused aswell.
https://twitter.com/FillerPolly/status/1462795062140674056
Easy to spot the keyboard thugs and cowards anyway
Says the little brown shirt who wants to identify and expose all unvaxxed, whilst cutting them out of society. You’re some lunatic authoritarian.
Why thanks love
Amazing. All but 1 commenter has blamed the person who approached the law breakers and all but 1 condoned the threat of violence.
This is why much of the anti vaxxers / anti science cohort are scum
Yup by God that’s a lot of “Scum” eh?
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=dublin+protest+passports&atb=v285-1&iax=videos&ia=videos&iaf=publishedAfter%3Aw
THEY were the hostile antagonist not the victim in that situation- as I am pretty sure the guards would conclude from the CCTV footage.
And could you imagine if someone kicked off trouble at one of those scum marches turned out to be vaccinated. I wonder how the anti-science brigade would handle it in their pr campaigns?
You happy with actions of those scumbags in this post given they’re part of your cohort? Do they represent your views and actions? Would you react the same way?
Anti Vaccine Passport protests- which are happening all over the world- are “scum marches”- enough said.
It’s noted that you didn’t answer my questions.
You called all those millions who are protesting all over the world as ‘scum- enough said.
Those that try to enforce tyranny are the scum. People have had enough. Mind your own business.
“Mind your own business”
Says it all really. Antivaxxers, like all professional protestors have no interest in reasoned debate. This is down to a lack of a decent upbringing, education or basic manners. These dregs don’t have the means to win the debate legitimately so resort to telling anyone who disagrees with them to “mind your own business”.
Are you paid to spew this offensive garbage? It is certainly looking like it.
These cretins also regularly resort to accusing those who mock them of being paid to do it. Because why would anyone mock antivaxxers unless they were being paid to do it?
You are paid so.
There’s no ‘reasoned debate’ with either imbeciles or tyranny.
Well , this is why when I’m approached and asked to put on a mask I respectfully decline. I don’t want to be put in a box by people. I’d rather engage and explain my position.
Of course I’m also 6’2 and pretty elfin well built so I usually don’t get asked anyway.
But, I’m always nice either way ;)
I may disagree with your views but I figured you’re a nice guy about it :)
Snap Kim ;)
cool story bro.
( I usually don’t get asked anyway-zzzzz)
I’d make you put one on.
That just came across as all very Kenneth Williams… OOOOH-ERR!
Better people than you have tried Tom
And, do you know what happens?
DO YOU??? DO YOU???
I just leave.
And smile.
I don’t want to give some lad/lass working hard in a shop a hard time. It’s not their fault.
“I don’t want to give some lad/lass working hard in a shop a hard time. It’s not their fault.”
Just put a mask on then? it’s not difficult.
It’s not about being difficult.
I’ve said for the past year that it was wrong. Pretty bloody consistent about it too.
And look where we are now. Masking young children…
It’s wrong and it was always the thin end of the wedge.
I feel terrible for people who have to work in shops at the moment.
They can make every effort possible to make their working environment as safe as feasible.
They might be vulnerable themselves or live with vulnerable people.
They have no alternative but to have close contact with 100s or maybe 1000s of people everyday.
And then you have Micko lumbering in, all 6’2” of him, and can’t bear to wear a mask for a couple of minutes because of his precious heroic ego.
I’m 6’3” by the way, but I don’t use it passive-aggressively to get my way.
Interesting how you had little or no concern for front line shop workers back in the day when they didn’t have even plastic covering eh Nilbert?
Shop workers have the option of getting vaccinated just like the rest, although most have already been exposed to the thing- therefore immune so not really a lot of point.
“I’m 6’3” by the way, ”
You know my pain then brother… are you fiendishly handsome too? It’s a hard life eh?
Anyway yes, the poor staff.
My favourite bit is when they take the stuff I’VE been handling, scan it and then place it in a bag.
Repeatedly…
For 1000’s items with 100’s of customers.
Everyday.
But it’s ok, they have a piece of cloth on their face to protect them.
The cloth which they ALSO repeatedly touch, pull down, pull back up, touch the items I’ve touched and also HAVE to wear for 8-10 hours a day, so they can breath in that lovely lovely virus and snots and all the germs, that I and others have given them on our hands.
Everyday… every single feckin day.
And then not only that, the poor feckers have to PRETEND to be keeping everyone safe.
We’re reaching peak stupidity here folks. Hopefully we’ll see a reduction in stupidity cases soon…
I think he meant that as a come on Micko, kind of an eyes wide shut vibe
in regards to Tom’s I’d make you wear one
Ooooh kinky J ;)
Ol Tom is a saucy laddy methinks
Hahaha, tom2 thinks he’d make us put one on. You’re a gas man Tom. You’d do no such thing.
…he’d have to leave the house first! :-D
“Yiz’ll do nathin’!!”
Tough man ematty! I imagine you are very very tough!
6’2″ ? Never knew they could pile it that high !
Nilbert’s 6.3 you know….
Not that I’m competitive or anything
I knew it!
You’re Bressie! Joking!
On your other point, I wouldn’t trust CC’s version of events regarding being chased down the street.
Bressie? – hjeasus!!!! ;)
Well, yeah you might be right on CC’s version.
Chasing down the street, might just be shouting down the street. But if they did chase him – he should get in touch with the cops.
Cool! You can be ‘respectful’ because you use your height to intimidate people…
Typical of the anti-mask.
Should I stoop down when talking to others?
Maybe kneel?
Sit down perhaps?
Very heightist of you – please check your privilege Nilbert. You have no idea how easy life is for you being a little dude.
I bet you’ve never been to a go-cart track and not only can I find a helmet to fit me (massive noggin too) , I’m nearly always paddy last I’m so big. ;P
Ooooh the pain!!!
You’re not that tall, get over yourself. I’m the same height and would not consider myself particularly tall.
I have an unmistakable swagger though…
Makes all the difference
Shouldn’t you be on the “Not actual size” thread?
Fair play to the three lads. We’ve had enough of these Covid Karen’s. They need to be put back in their box.
Put back in their box? So you are OK with them chasing her down the street?
FFS.
What else is acceptable to mete out to those you do not like?
How do you know it was a female?
And what right did he or she have to confront people in such an aggressive manner like that? That really is trailer park stuff.
As pointed out above- if he or she had an issue then they should have brought it up with the management.
E’Matty keeps referring to CC as a ‘Karen’ so perhaps you should ask him how he knows they are female?
As to her right, that’s not a discussion I am going to rehash here, suffice to say if this anecdote is true and the image provided suggests something happened, she or he still does not deserve to be chased down the road like they say they were. Would a beating be justified for being a ‘Karen’ or would just scaring the life out of them be enough?
Karen is both a M and F term I think.
As for chasing down the road – I doubt that. They were working fellas coming off a shift by the looks of it- so sober.
Ian-oG – you’re a Covid Karen.
OK Matty.
I surrender, how can I ever come back after a zinger like that.
LOL.
+1 Ian
I despise this myopic, stunted “with us or against us attitude.”
Did he (and I’m kind of assuming he’s a he and not a she, I’ll explain why, if anyone wants to know) seriously ask 3 men in a chipper to don masks so that he could feel safe, in essence?
My advice to him would be to read Broadsheet everyday for a month.
They they order the licking rats served in tin foil hats?
Coming to this discussion late so some of my points have already been made. However, the comments below may bring up relevant legal matters,
Laying aside any issues regarding whether face-coverings should be required by law and certainly not condoning the chasing of CC down the street, I would say that CC should have spoken to a member of staff not to the individuals.
The member of staff should have informed the ‘responsible person’ (as defined in the legislation – S.I. No. 296 of 2020 – eg manager or the person in charge of the premises), who should then have followed the instructions given in the same piece of legislation, which are:
(4) A responsible person shall take reasonable steps to engage with persons entering or in the relevant premises to inform them of the requirements of paragraph (1) and to promote compliance with those requirements.
(1) A person shall not, without reasonable excuse, enter or remain in a relevant premises in a relevant geographical location without wearing a face covering.
If the individuals did not comply, the ‘responsible person’ could have contacted guards, if this seemed appropriate.
It is rarely appropriate for a customer to speak directly to another customer who is not wearing a face-covering to tell them to do so. This case shows one reason why not – the reaction may not be what is expected.
Another reason is that an understanding of what the legislation requires regarding face-coverings is necessary and this is particularly the case where the person has a reasonable excuse, as allowed in the law. A friend of mine, who has a clear ‘reasonable excuse’, recently had a very unpleasant experience. He was subjected to quite a vicious verbal attack by another customer, who threatened him with the police. Eventually, she went away and complained bitterly to the manager, who, I’m glad to say, pointed out that she was wrong in insisting that everyone ‘HAD to wear a mask’.
That image appears to be a still from a video.
If true, then, asking strangers to wear a mask while recording them on your phone seems fairly provocative to me.
Does seem to be somewhat lacking in descretion, to say the least.
Discretion
interesting point from marina hyde in the guardian: for all the bleating on about rights and liberty from the anti-mask side, they can’t or won’t even show simple solidarity now and then for the sake of common sense or peace and quiet.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/nov/30/anti-mask-blitz-war-public-good
Ah, come on.
They’re rocking the boat in the name of common sense.
Scottser, you’ve stated your intension not to get a booster right?
Why not? Can you not show simple solidarity, for the sake of common sense or peace and quiet and get the booster you’re being asked to?
Thin end of the wedge IMO
Just two weeks,
just a few more weeks,
flatten the curve,
wear a mask,
save Christmas,
anti-masks are far-right
just until we get the elderly vax’d,
just a little more,
there’s a new variant,
,the vax passes are only temporary until we get the adults vax’d
the vax’s didn’t work,
people who are anti-vax are far right,
get a booster,
there’s a new variant,
now the kids have to be vax’d,
now kids have to wear masks,
now infants have to be vax’d, (Fauchi said so the other day)
and now the passes are permanent.
You see, you’re the same as all of us. The only difference is that we had different cut off points. That’s all
Oh do keep up Micko- Javid in the UK is saying that booster is to be administered THREE MONTHS after second- which is setting the scene for four jabs a year- every year.
i’ve been vaccinated micko, and i’m just over covid so there’s no need for a booster. i’ll make a decision as to whether i need one or not in six months time. it wasn’t a bad dose but i can imagine a full whack of it would be no fun at all so i was glad enough to have had the jab.
showing a little empathy is no harm; that’s why i’ll wear a mask in a chipper or a shop but i don’t make a song and dance about anyone who doesn’t wear one. it’s like everyone’s lost their cop on over this – making kids wear masks is just nuts.
i do object to absolute wankstains calling each other out for their respective stances though – it means the government’s obvious divide and conquer strategy is working on the idiots. the ONLY way we get through this is together.
anyway, tonight is the first night in a few weeks i’ll be able to meet up with the lads and play a few tunes; that’s all i care about right now and the rest of ye can ask the brown end of me bollix.
Before you got Covid though. Were you not saying that you wouldn’t be getting a booster and that you wouldn’t be showing a vax pass and you wouldn’t ask your team to and that you told your employer as much?
If I’m getting you mixed up with someone else, I apologise.
yep, that was me. and i stand by it – no way am i showing a vax pass to go to work and i wouldn’t ask any of my team to show it either.
Cool. then we agree it’s wrong.
I just go one or two steps further.
Anyway – enjoy yer jam
If you could use toilet paper correctly, it wouldn’t be brown.
Leave it out. NPHET are allowed take a break and grab a spice bag now and then.
Thanks for sharing this! All the best!